Carnival Cruise Mafia - Page 87

On May 19 2013 09:18 slOosh wrote:

Hey Prom, sick pre-flip association reads.

You go AWOL last night, blame BH that he calls you out on it but then proceed to blame me for being late for day 1 lynch?

You call me desperate scum that went for a gambit on mylo, even though as scum I would know the KP formula and be able to do basic math?

You say I chainsaw defend BH even though the person pushing BH was VE and I didn't attack him, nor you in any way whatsoever?


Q: If HiroPro was the wrong lynch, why didn't Prome say anything about it?
A: He is scum that parked his vote somewhere else to avoid any responsibility, and now is trying to pin the blame of the flip based on the result, not on the analysis / justifications / reasoning.

GG. Your desire for a perfect game was your downfall.

On May 19 2013 04:38 kushm4sta wrote:

just because I found the scum doesn't make me scum.

On May 19 2013 18:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
FUCK YEAH.

ObviousOne - If we're going to find scum together, you do the facts and I'll do the feels. I've read the thread and here are my feels.

Before we go all hasty mode and quicklynch prplhz, let us not forget that prplhz was the subject of BH's ire late in the day yesterday. I'd like to hear what prplhz has to say regarding yesterday's events and where he thinks scum are hiding. I still very much think he's scum, but I'm holding my vote for now.

Prom still coming into the thread wanting to talk to people "of worth" is really starting to bother me. That kind of attitude is very unlike Prom from what I remember - we don't play together as often as I'd like. Also his read of slOosh is bad I think. slOosh is looking EXACTLY like he did in Nomination (which I have read TWICE during this game so far) and I've got a solid townread on slOosh. My experience with slOosh is a very lurky, afraid-type scum. Not what we're seeing here, and he's sounding very townie.

I mentioned before reading Nomination twice. The other time was to look at Oatsmaster more thoroughly. I see the same semi-aggressive kinds of posts and I THIIIINK he's town. It definitely doesn't look like his only scum game listed in the TL Mafia Directory, but I think there's a more recent game I can look at? For scumOats?

shirokami. His votes yesterday were bad. Literally none of them came with reasoning, or even comment. I had him as newbTown but fuck. Firetruck. I think scum now.

strongandbig - I've actually been scum with strongandbig pretty memorably. We were scum together in ChronoTrigger, and he was barely playing at all. Here was his filter - it's only 6 pages and he died on Cycle 7. I haven't filtered strongandbig yet, but what I remember offhand is nothing like that filter. I'm leaning town on SnB.

Kushm4sta..........gets a post all his very own. Intrigue

These have been my feels. I'm filterdiving and available for questions.

On May 19 2013 18:43 ObviousOne wrote:

Yeah, okay, let's look at it this way: Prom has 2 scum games listed in his profile, one was a newbie game from ages ago and then there was LX which was random as fuck obviscummy. Take a gander at British Empire Mini II. He was town there, his early game features tons of short posts, very few large posts/mega-cases. Lots of willingness to discuss things. I don't get that bossy tone that we're seeing here in his posts from British; he's very handily demonstrating inquisitive/paranoid tendencies in British. Here he's assuming a commanding presence, but the counter-point to that is that his expected activity would not really support that playstyle for this particular game. I need to read his filter through-and-through here but that's one major difference I'm noticing that really can't be explained unless he's intentionally trying to be tough guy here and what's the town motivation for sounding like a bully? Here his posts feel less like a discussion and more like a dictatorship. He's driving but he's AFK. GHOST-RIDE THE WHIP!

Does that jive with what you're feeling?

Can't really do a meta analysis of his mafia play when he has two games ever and they are so far apart / different in nature. I can just point out what I see as not really feeling like his town play and guess as to whether or not that makes him scummy.

Last thought for the moment, need to look at how he voted for BH, like that entire conversation in context of the thread, that's where the Swedish Fish are likely hiding.

On May 19 2013 19:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
kkkkkk
We are not lynching WoS because?

On May 19 2013 19:27 VisceraEyes wrote:


Vivax' deathwish was for WaveofShadow's head on a pole. Just sayin. If we're respecting the dead, we gotta RESPECT the dead. For whatever reason he felt more strongly about Wave before he died than he did about prplhz...and I was townie on prplhz when Vivax was calling for his lynch sooo...I don't know about invoking Vivax in that way.

On May 20 2013 02:04 Promethelax wrote:


oh look, bh was scum. You were chainsaw defending him. Suck a dick scum.



Yes it does. It does a million percent. Scum team is bh, Kush, Sloosh, prp and SnB. [this is only true if busmaster is scum. He seems quite scummy though and he did vote bh and get defended by him. I need to look into Kush meta and vote analysis before I am totally sure of this though]



I guess I see where you are coming from on that, but no. When I have limited time I much prefer to hear from people who can use my time wisely. We'll play together more <3.

Who do you have as scum with Shiro/Prp and why is shiro scum? Everything he does is too openly scummy and if Rayn really can read him like Rayn suggested I'll take that read over my own since objectively scummy players are so often just objectively scummy despite alignment (take a gander at Kush or Stutters for decent examples.)



You may have read my recent mafia scum game, in it I played very aggressive and in your face. The reason for it in that game, and my more aggressive posting in this game, is that I couldn't have the level of thread interaction I want (there because the other players were never in the thread, here because I'm not).

There is a third newbie mafia game in my profile too, not sure why none of you are looking at me for real, like, its colour coded and shit. Its much more similar to the LX scum game than it its to nmm XIX.

I'm torn between annoyed and honoured that you think my scum game is good enough to be what I'm doing here.


Because he is town. Its a pretty simple equation really.

OO, bh is a bit of a prickenstein as either alignment, its his schtick. But as scum he plays up the prick and plays down the being useful. Go look at his town play in Liquid City or the more recent LX. The kid isn't so bad as to just fight people because of his ego, he uses that to hide in when he rolls scum.
Me voting bh in the ~three seconds I was in the thread would be hilariously bad if I was scum. I didn't give reasons or attempt to make myself look good from a possible d3 flip since it was a lynch between bh and Hiro d2.

I'm not voting until i get back from work and get to finish analyzing everything I want to look at. I like this prp/kush lynch dichotomy at the moment though. I'm sure at least one of the two is scum.
Another player I'd like to look at is Oats, someone remind me to filter him when I get home, he seems different to how I'm used to him playing town and I need to see if ti matches his scum play. Son of a bitch won't even sheep me.

On May 20 2013 10:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol what is with the fucking martyring on TL lately?
Also hai guise I back and will be for the next little while.
OO you never answered me as to on whom you would like a read.

Oats you still think I'm scum huh? Why?

On May 20 2013 10:17 Oatsmaster wrote:

I dont know why you are town!!!!!!!
Is it cause BH pushed you?
Cause you didnt actually get lynched, and OO almost got lynched.
And the night after, BH was pushing the OO lynch not you.

On May 20 2013 10:19 WaveofShadow wrote:

Clearly our entire exchange was an elaborate double-bus attempt. What have I done that is anti-town?
Should I just ignore you for the rest of the game?

On May 20 2013 10:28 Oatsmaster wrote:

What the fuck are you talking about?
Confirmed town due to interactions with flipped player and town due to 'townplay' is different.
What I dont see the the 'confirmed' town part, considering the fact that BH didnt even wanna lynch you after day 1.

On May 20 2013 11:07 WaveofShadow wrote:

So ignore the BH interaction then and read my filter and show me how my play isn't 'townplay.'