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@AllhailHydraGod, your analysis is completely off base.
On May 07 2013 00:10 AllHailHydraGod wrote:
What happened to his inquiries regarding nobodywonder's reason to vote Vayne.. or shirokami's lack of content and postponing analysis? Does he find them satisfying or scummy or what, he simply votes for pressuring the non-poster instead of pursuing his suspicions, letting people know where he stands.. they must've given him some impression but my hunch is he's not willing to share them because he wants to keep his options of jumping on their wagon open.
I found nobodywonder's quite bland, though it was early in the day. Nobody basically said he just didnt like Vayne's play style. As for shirokami, he finally started posting and it was about vayne. He didnt like vayne's play style either because vayne refused to reveal his full analysis. Instead of addressing both of these statements separately i commented on the subject of both... ie Vayne's lack of transparency.
On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
His unwillingness to complete reveal is troubling but he has given some analysis. If this trend continues into day 2 then i would be more inclined to vote him.
It frankly didnt seem necessary to address both nobodywonder's and shirokami's posts separately as it would simply be repeating myself.
Next you focused heavily on my voting for flowcaster and then my subsequent vote change.
On May 07 2013 00:10 AllHailHydraGod wrote:
First off he's like warming up to it by saying his vote on flowcaster is useless. This is either townie realizing he has been playing anti-town or apologetic, cheeky scum. I can't tell but judging by the way he says these are the reasons for voting for Targe .. i don't know, sounds like it's hard for him to do so and he's getting ready to write some fiction.
From the beginning I was open to the lynch all lurkers policy as a way to get those involved. As the day went on, I didnt find any one person overly suspicious nor had i focused on one person. I voted flowcaster because of his absolute lack of posting. Giving 0 information is not helpful at all for town. I then came back to the game, hours later things had changed. There was a mod message stating that flowcaster would either be mod killed or replaced with you. Furthermore, nobody, calgar, and targe insisted my vote change.
At this point I went through posts of many of the players and come down to Targe for the reasons stated. He had only 2 votes on him when I voted him, so that can hardly be considered band wagoning.
On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'll be on till vote time if anything needs help understanding.
On May 07 2013 00:10 AllHailHydraGod wrote:
Understanding what? It's not like he left room for anything to misinterpret, he's scum and it's that simple. Others are concerned about switching the vote because JarJar doesn't seem scummy whereas he is concerned about people understanding his post. In fact I thought him and flowcaster where the scumteam and he used the inactivity of his scumbuddy to distance himself from him knowing well that if he fails to show up he'd get replaced, or that he could easily switch off him once he starts to post. That is not the case though. I'm town and you should sheep me on this one.
Your analysis here goes completely off the rails. I state that I am online and will talk about my position to anyone who wishes. Lets also not forget that it wasnt my vote that lynched a townie. You had a single though that Flowcaster and I were scumbuddies and you let that define your whole analysis. It is clear at the end that realized how wrong you were but you couldnt let that go. Then your very last thing you say is that people should go along with you, even when you claim im scum for bandwagoning.
On May 07 2013 00:10 AllHailHydraGod wrote:
As I've said he probably kept his options open to jump on one of the two he has questioned, actually, the only 2 people he had any sort of interactions with and even with these folks he didn't bother to comment on their replies to his questions.
Here again you make assumptions that dont match the facts. I had question a few and yet I voted for another and gave my reasons for it.
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On May 06 2013 22:37 jampidampi wrote:Sugarfluff, is there any non-jrkirby related reason that Calgar is scum? You really shouldn't associate before the flip. Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 22:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
Keep in mind this is night one and not day 2, its pretty much the same thing as day one. The real game starts after PR roles gain info and people get killed. Does this mean we won't your reasons for voting Targe until day two?
I realize we will have more information when day 2 begins and those with roles have gathered some info but I thought we could begin early. Even if kirby isn't mafia Calgar seemed to pick his suspicions consciously and I definitely find that suspicious on its own.
AllHailHydra seems like a good poster and I can't wait to study his reasoning's, I have to go now but looking forward to the game picking up.
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On May 07 2013 01:25 Sugarfluff wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 22:37 jampidampi wrote:Sugarfluff, is there any non-jrkirby related reason that Calgar is scum? You really shouldn't associate before the flip. On May 06 2013 22:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
Keep in mind this is night one and not day 2, its pretty much the same thing as day one. The real game starts after PR roles gain info and people get killed. Does this mean we won't your reasons for voting Targe until day two? I realize we will have more information when day 2 begins and those with roles have gathered some info but I thought we could begin early. Even if kirby isn't mafia Calgar seemed to pick his suspicions consciously and I definitely find that suspicious on its own. AllHailHydra seems like a good poster and I can't wait to study his reasoning's, I have to go now but looking forward to the game picking up.
Sorry, my post was a little unclear, the second part was at Vayne. I'd like to hear more about your suspicions on Calgar, how are his suspicions picked consciously? How does that make him scum?
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@hydra - Welcome to the game & nice to see you posting some analysis. I'm curious to know your thoughts on sugarfluff and vayne as well?
@jampi - I see you asking a lot of questions of other people but I'm not as clear on your reads. You've said there are a lot of scummy people running around so who's bugging you the most?
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I feel like you're doing a decent job replying to my accusations, I wonder though how you would've reacted if I hadn't made the mistake of calling Vayne one of the two people you interacted with. You just mentioned him while talking with nobodywonders. My points still stand though.
I'm not nearly convinced of your innocence. If you are a townie in his first game it wouldn't make sense for your sole ambition to be to pressure the non-poster when you could at that point be fostering discussion, getting reactions out of the pool of active people by voting them etc. until late in the game when you simply justify your vote, and why you don't vote shirokami (you only say he started posting but won't go into detail about it) again not indicating any intent to scumhunt. We don't know much about your stance on JarJar either, you just say he managed to bring some discussion .. well if that's something to be desired then I'm not sure why you can't seem to do it.
@jampidampi
Just a guess. I think he's putting himself out there with comments about the mafia team's competence and stuff. I can see him being a townie who got bored and just let loose some stream of conscience gibberish because there's nothing going on in the thread. What's your take on him and Sugarfluff?
And I saw you going after Spicy and yet you voted for JarJar? Looking at the post where you provide your reads I would've assumed that you are the least convinced of his scummiest out of all your suspects, because tunneling someone isn't really scummy, I'm most likely going to be tunneling Spicy If he can't provide more compelling explanations for his play. And from what I've seen he's been looking at other people besides you, most notably Vayne.
So basically what do you have to say about this meta argument of yours now after the flip?
On May 06 2013 03:52 jampidampi wrote:
JarJarDrinks has only tunneled me. Reading a past town game from him, he's perfectly capable of thinking multiple people at the same time, yet here he doesn't do that. JarJar is clinging on to a single thing I said, and doesn't even consider other things I say, not to mention everything everyone else says.
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@sugarfluff - Is there a reason you've ignored my previous questions addressed to you? This makes me feel like you aren't reading what I'm saying.
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On May 07 2013 00:10 AllHailHydraGod wrote:Hey! I'm highly suspicious of Spicydinosaur. His play seems calculated, coasting his vote on the guy who hasn't posted at all for 2/3 of Day 1 so he doesn't have to explain himself much when hopping on a wagon close to deadline. And the way his vote wound up on flowcaster is also "troubling". See his filter, in posts #3 and #4 he's asking questions which I would interpret as townie but then it's like he doesn't even care about them at all. His # 5 is this: Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 02:22 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Voted for FloWcaster for no postings. Still waiting on a few others analysis to decide if im going to change it. Got a busy day but will hopefully be back in time for deadline. What happened to his inquiries regarding nobodywonder's reason to vote Vayne.. or shirokami's lack of content and postponing analysis? Does he find them satisfying or scummy or what, he simply votes for pressuring the non-poster instead of pursuing his suspicions, letting people know where he stands.. they must've given him some impression but my hunch is he's not willing to share them because he wants to keep his options of jumping on their wagon open. His catch-up post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18508502］#6 does not give the impression as if he's interested to find things out. There's something about the way he starts his posts, look: Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
It seems at this point that flowcaster is going to be replaced so my vote for him is pointless and im going to change it. For the following reasons i am voting for Targe.
I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.
First off he's like warming up to it by saying his vote on flowcaster is useless. This is either townie realizing he has been playing anti-town or apologetic, cheeky scum. I can't tell but judging by the way he says these are the reasons for voting for Targe .. i don't know, sounds like it's hard for him to do so and he's getting ready to write some fiction. I mean since scum talk in their QT about who's mislynch to push I feel like this is a coordinated move in that they decided that Targe should be Spicydinosaur's target but he seems like he's working hard to come up with reasons. But the next sentence is where I think he gave himself away: Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.
As I've said he probably kept his options open to jump on one of the two he has questioned, actually, the only 2 people he had any sort of interactions with and even with these folks he didn't bother to comment on their replies to his questions. So here we see him choosing one of these options. The way the post is designed it's really rather sincere, like saying I was coasting so now I'm voting for one of the two guys I have a few sentences of content against, being extra careful because voting for anyone else would raise questions and scum/I don't like to explain myself. Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'll be on till vote time if anything needs help understanding.
Understanding what? It's not like he left room for anything to misinterpret, he's scum and it's that simple. Others are concerned about switching the vote because JarJar doesn't seem scummy whereas he is concerned about people understanding his post. In fact I thought him and flowcaster where the scumteam and he used the inactivity of his scumbuddy to distance himself from him knowing well that if he fails to show up he'd get replaced, or that he could easily switch off him once he starts to post. That is not the case though. I'm town and you should sheep me on this one. I'll go over other people's filters shortly. My general impression is that jrkirby, nobodywonder, Targe and jampidampi are town. Also LAL means Lynch All Liars afaik. And lurkers aren't people who don't post at all but people who post little with little to no original content .. like Spicy. [/url]
I will come out and say at the least incase I die tonight that I agree a lot with this analysis. Targe and spicydinosaur are 2 of my prime suspects, also wary of espi.casey.
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@Hydra Hi, good I like your posting so far. Keep it up. What did you think about the outcome of the JarJar lynch? There may be a mafia on it perhaps so I'm very suscipious of casey. I also don't like the last minute random voting between jrkirby and spicydinosaur. that was weird.
On May 07 2013 03:23 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 00:10 AllHailHydraGod wrote:Hey! I'm highly suspicious of Spicydinosaur. His play seems calculated, coasting his vote on the guy who hasn't posted at all for 2/3 of Day 1 so he doesn't have to explain himself much when hopping on a wagon close to deadline. And the way his vote wound up on flowcaster is also "troubling". See his filter, in posts #3 and #4 he's asking questions which I would interpret as townie but then it's like he doesn't even care about them at all. His # 5 is this: On May 06 2013 02:22 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Voted for FloWcaster for no postings. Still waiting on a few others analysis to decide if im going to change it. Got a busy day but will hopefully be back in time for deadline. What happened to his inquiries regarding nobodywonder's reason to vote Vayne.. or shirokami's lack of content and postponing analysis? Does he find them satisfying or scummy or what, he simply votes for pressuring the non-poster instead of pursuing his suspicions, letting people know where he stands.. they must've given him some impression but my hunch is he's not willing to share them because he wants to keep his options of jumping on their wagon open. His catch-up post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18508502］#6 does not give the impression as if he's interested to find things out. There's something about the way he starts his posts, look: On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
It seems at this point that flowcaster is going to be replaced so my vote for him is pointless and im going to change it. For the following reasons i am voting for Targe.
I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.
First off he's like warming up to it by saying his vote on flowcaster is useless. This is either townie realizing he has been playing anti-town or apologetic, cheeky scum. I can't tell but judging by the way he says these are the reasons for voting for Targe .. i don't know, sounds like it's hard for him to do so and he's getting ready to write some fiction. I mean since scum talk in their QT about who's mislynch to push I feel like this is a coordinated move in that they decided that Targe should be Spicydinosaur's target but he seems like he's working hard to come up with reasons. But the next sentence is where I think he gave himself away: On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.
As I've said he probably kept his options open to jump on one of the two he has questioned, actually, the only 2 people he had any sort of interactions with and even with these folks he didn't bother to comment on their replies to his questions. So here we see him choosing one of these options. The way the post is designed it's really rather sincere, like saying I was coasting so now I'm voting for one of the two guys I have a few sentences of content against, being extra careful because voting for anyone else would raise questions and scum/I don't like to explain myself. On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'll be on till vote time if anything needs help understanding.
Understanding what? It's not like he left room for anything to misinterpret, he's scum and it's that simple. Others are concerned about switching the vote because JarJar doesn't seem scummy whereas he is concerned about people understanding his post. In fact I thought him and flowcaster where the scumteam and he used the inactivity of his scumbuddy to distance himself from him knowing well that if he fails to show up he'd get replaced, or that he could easily switch off him once he starts to post. That is not the case though. I'm town and you should sheep me on this one. I'll go over other people's filters shortly. My general impression is that jrkirby, nobodywonder, Targe and jampidampi are town. Also LAL means Lynch All Liars afaik. And lurkers aren't people who don't post at all but people who post little with little to no original content .. like Spicy. I will come out and say at the least incase I die tonight that I agree a lot with this analysis. Targe and spicydinosaur are 2 of my prime suspects, also wary of espi.casey. [/url]
if you think you are going to die, you might as well give us the dirt on Targe. I don't see the point of delaying your analysis any further.
what do you think of the other posters, any that take your attention? what do you think of hydra's case on dino?
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On May 07 2013 01:16 Spicydinosaur wrote:@AllhailHydraGod, your analysis is completely off base. Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 00:10 AllHailHydraGod wrote:
What happened to his inquiries regarding nobodywonder's reason to vote Vayne.. or shirokami's lack of content and postponing analysis? Does he find them satisfying or scummy or what, he simply votes for pressuring the non-poster instead of pursuing his suspicions, letting people know where he stands.. they must've given him some impression but my hunch is he's not willing to share them because he wants to keep his options of jumping on their wagon open. I found nobodywonder's quite bland, though it was early in the day. Nobody basically said he just didnt like Vayne's play style. As for shirokami, he finally started posting and it was about vayne. He didnt like vayne's play style either because vayne refused to reveal his full analysis. Instead of addressing both of these statements separately i commented on the subject of both... ie Vayne's lack of transparency. Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
His unwillingness to complete reveal is troubling but he has given some analysis. If this trend continues into day 2 then i would be more inclined to vote him. It frankly didnt seem necessary to address both nobodywonder's and shirokami's posts separately as it would simply be repeating myself. Next you focused heavily on my voting for flowcaster and then my subsequent vote change. Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 00:10 AllHailHydraGod wrote:
First off he's like warming up to it by saying his vote on flowcaster is useless. This is either townie realizing he has been playing anti-town or apologetic, cheeky scum. I can't tell but judging by the way he says these are the reasons for voting for Targe .. i don't know, sounds like it's hard for him to do so and he's getting ready to write some fiction. From the beginning I was open to the lynch all lurkers policy as a way to get those involved. As the day went on, I didnt find any one person overly suspicious nor had i focused on one person. I voted flowcaster because of his absolute lack of posting. Giving 0 information is not helpful at all for town. I then came back to the game, hours later things had changed. There was a mod message stating that flowcaster would either be mod killed or replaced with you. Furthermore, nobody, calgar, and targe insisted my vote change. At this point I went through posts of many of the players and come down to Targe for the reasons stated. He had only 2 votes on him when I voted him, so that can hardly be considered band wagoning. Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'll be on till vote time if anything needs help understanding.
Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 00:10 AllHailHydraGod wrote:
Understanding what? It's not like he left room for anything to misinterpret, he's scum and it's that simple. Others are concerned about switching the vote because JarJar doesn't seem scummy whereas he is concerned about people understanding his post. In fact I thought him and flowcaster where the scumteam and he used the inactivity of his scumbuddy to distance himself from him knowing well that if he fails to show up he'd get replaced, or that he could easily switch off him once he starts to post. That is not the case though. I'm town and you should sheep me on this one. Your analysis here goes completely off the rails. I state that I am online and will talk about my position to anyone who wishes. Lets also not forget that it wasnt my vote that lynched a townie. You had a single though that Flowcaster and I were scumbuddies and you let that define your whole analysis. It is clear at the end that realized how wrong you were but you couldnt let that go. Then your very last thing you say is that people should go along with you, even when you claim im scum for bandwagoning. Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 00:10 AllHailHydraGod wrote:
As I've said he probably kept his options open to jump on one of the two he has questioned, actually, the only 2 people he had any sort of interactions with and even with these folks he didn't bother to comment on their replies to his questions. Here again you make assumptions that dont match the facts. I had question a few and yet I voted for another and gave my reasons for it.
what are your reads on me, shirokami and vayne then? you seemed to have poked and prodded us, but what have been the results of your findings?
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On May 07 2013 03:34 nobodywonder wrote:@Hydra Hi, good I like your posting so far. Keep it up. What did you think about the outcome of the JarJar lynch? There may be a mafia on it perhaps so I'm very suscipious of casey. I also don't like the last minute random voting between jrkirby and spicydinosaur. that was weird. Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 03:23 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 07 2013 00:10 AllHailHydraGod wrote:Hey! I'm highly suspicious of Spicydinosaur. His play seems calculated, coasting his vote on the guy who hasn't posted at all for 2/3 of Day 1 so he doesn't have to explain himself much when hopping on a wagon close to deadline. And the way his vote wound up on flowcaster is also "troubling". See his filter, in posts #3 and #4 he's asking questions which I would interpret as townie but then it's like he doesn't even care about them at all. His # 5 is this: On May 06 2013 02:22 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Voted for FloWcaster for no postings. Still waiting on a few others analysis to decide if im going to change it. Got a busy day but will hopefully be back in time for deadline. What happened to his inquiries regarding nobodywonder's reason to vote Vayne.. or shirokami's lack of content and postponing analysis? Does he find them satisfying or scummy or what, he simply votes for pressuring the non-poster instead of pursuing his suspicions, letting people know where he stands.. they must've given him some impression but my hunch is he's not willing to share them because he wants to keep his options of jumping on their wagon open. His catch-up post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18508502］#6 does not give the impression as if he's interested to find things out. There's something about the way he starts his posts, look: On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
It seems at this point that flowcaster is going to be replaced so my vote for him is pointless and im going to change it. For the following reasons i am voting for Targe.
I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.
First off he's like warming up to it by saying his vote on flowcaster is useless. This is either townie realizing he has been playing anti-town or apologetic, cheeky scum. I can't tell but judging by the way he says these are the reasons for voting for Targe .. i don't know, sounds like it's hard for him to do so and he's getting ready to write some fiction. I mean since scum talk in their QT about who's mislynch to push I feel like this is a coordinated move in that they decided that Targe should be Spicydinosaur's target but he seems like he's working hard to come up with reasons. But the next sentence is where I think he gave himself away: On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.
As I've said he probably kept his options open to jump on one of the two he has questioned, actually, the only 2 people he had any sort of interactions with and even with these folks he didn't bother to comment on their replies to his questions. So here we see him choosing one of these options. The way the post is designed it's really rather sincere, like saying I was coasting so now I'm voting for one of the two guys I have a few sentences of content against, being extra careful because voting for anyone else would raise questions and scum/I don't like to explain myself. On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'll be on till vote time if anything needs help understanding.
Understanding what? It's not like he left room for anything to misinterpret, he's scum and it's that simple. Others are concerned about switching the vote because JarJar doesn't seem scummy whereas he is concerned about people understanding his post. In fact I thought him and flowcaster where the scumteam and he used the inactivity of his scumbuddy to distance himself from him knowing well that if he fails to show up he'd get replaced, or that he could easily switch off him once he starts to post. That is not the case though. I'm town and you should sheep me on this one. I'll go over other people's filters shortly. My general impression is that jrkirby, nobodywonder, Targe and jampidampi are town. Also LAL means Lynch All Liars afaik. And lurkers aren't people who don't post at all but people who post little with little to no original content .. like Spicy. I will come out and say at the least incase I die tonight that I agree a lot with this analysis. Targe and spicydinosaur are 2 of my prime suspects, also wary of espi.casey. if you think you are going to die, you might as well give us the dirt on Targe. I don't see the point of delaying your analysis any further. what do you think of the other posters, any that take your attention? what do you think of hydra's case on dino? [/url]
its worthless until any killing occur so if I die then so be it. I agree with his analysis on spicydinosaur for a couple of reasons.
1. he starts off the game by saying he was looking up ways, such as lurking, that would be considered anti-town. If that isnt suspicious I don't know what is. Onto more concrete evidence...
2. mafia tend to ask a lot of questions but don't have a lot of answers. asking why people are voting for others and what they think about others gives the illusion of productivity but in reality adds nothing.
3. Tons of bandwagoning and general agreeance with others. As soon as anybody pipes up about having suspicions about somebody else, he is right there to agree. I am also adding the flowcaster early vote to this.
4. Voting for targe late even though it has no impact on the vote. Shifts him away from the JarJar lynch and also separates scum into different places so as to cause confusion.
If targe or spicy flips mafia, I would strongly consider the other being mafia as well.
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Analysis time,
jrkirby:
Your posts are kind of meh, you have your 'Casey, shirokami, nobody' post which is ok, but I can't see how you put shirokami as scum, he's certainly not got the best filter but he isn't giving of major mafia vibes. The entire idea of this post seems to be that you think they are distancing themselves from each other yet you seem to ignore the possibility that they are actually three separate players, not a team.
All your other posts are very short, generally 1 or 2 liners, not good. You're coming off as one of the more scummy ones here.
nobodywonder:
Your filter is better, you post actively and aren't afraid to question people and put forward arguments, although you did get a little erratic at times.
Not much more to say, I have a null read on you at the moment.
VayneAuthority:
Well, you're getting a lot of heat for doing shit like not explaining reasons and going for a no lynch, which was just a bad idea. Your post history isn't the best but I think you're just some strange town that does things his own way, I I'll hold out until day 2 when you may give us some information.
Seriously, you need to speak up.
shiromaki:
man, you lurked way to much d1, when you came in you started some talking which is good but it still wasn't really close to what I was expecting to hear, still holding judgement but at the moment you just look like some scummy town.
Sugarfluff:
Your filter is really not very good, you really don't have many posts at all, the majority of them were concerning Vayne, which is a common topic and a relatively easy way of getting out of lurking without posting too much original content. Your entire post concerning Calgar and kirby relies on them being scumbuddies, what read do you have on them as individuals?
SpicyDinosaur:
You posted some bland stuff at the beginning about lurkers, like quite a few of us, then you focus on me because I vote Jarjar when trying to get him to post and that is about the basis of your argument. More stuff on vayne, blah blah, then we get to your replies to Hydra's post, Hydra to me had one of the best analysis posts yet and you slam it, saying it's off the rails completely, he put some excellent points into his analysis of you and I agree with him, you come off as scummy under analysis.
I'll do some more of you guys when I get the chance, I only have a short time in which I can write lengthier posts like this as I'm relatively busy.
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On May 07 2013 03:52 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 03:34 nobodywonder wrote:@Hydra Hi, good I like your posting so far. Keep it up. What did you think about the outcome of the JarJar lynch? There may be a mafia on it perhaps so I'm very suscipious of casey. I also don't like the last minute random voting between jrkirby and spicydinosaur. that was weird. On May 07 2013 03:23 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 07 2013 00:10 AllHailHydraGod wrote:Hey! I'm highly suspicious of Spicydinosaur. His play seems calculated, coasting his vote on the guy who hasn't posted at all for 2/3 of Day 1 so he doesn't have to explain himself much when hopping on a wagon close to deadline. And the way his vote wound up on flowcaster is also "troubling". See his filter, in posts #3 and #4 he's asking questions which I would interpret as townie but then it's like he doesn't even care about them at all. His # 5 is this: On May 06 2013 02:22 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Voted for FloWcaster for no postings. Still waiting on a few others analysis to decide if im going to change it. Got a busy day but will hopefully be back in time for deadline. What happened to his inquiries regarding nobodywonder's reason to vote Vayne.. or shirokami's lack of content and postponing analysis? Does he find them satisfying or scummy or what, he simply votes for pressuring the non-poster instead of pursuing his suspicions, letting people know where he stands.. they must've given him some impression but my hunch is he's not willing to share them because he wants to keep his options of jumping on their wagon open. His catch-up post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18508502］#6 does not give the impression as if he's interested to find things out. There's something about the way he starts his posts, look: On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
It seems at this point that flowcaster is going to be replaced so my vote for him is pointless and im going to change it. For the following reasons i am voting for Targe.
I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.
First off he's like warming up to it by saying his vote on flowcaster is useless. This is either townie realizing he has been playing anti-town or apologetic, cheeky scum. I can't tell but judging by the way he says these are the reasons for voting for Targe .. i don't know, sounds like it's hard for him to do so and he's getting ready to write some fiction. I mean since scum talk in their QT about who's mislynch to push I feel like this is a coordinated move in that they decided that Targe should be Spicydinosaur's target but he seems like he's working hard to come up with reasons. But the next sentence is where I think he gave himself away: On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.
As I've said he probably kept his options open to jump on one of the two he has questioned, actually, the only 2 people he had any sort of interactions with and even with these folks he didn't bother to comment on their replies to his questions. So here we see him choosing one of these options. The way the post is designed it's really rather sincere, like saying I was coasting so now I'm voting for one of the two guys I have a few sentences of content against, being extra careful because voting for anyone else would raise questions and scum/I don't like to explain myself. On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'll be on till vote time if anything needs help understanding.
Understanding what? It's not like he left room for anything to misinterpret, he's scum and it's that simple. Others are concerned about switching the vote because JarJar doesn't seem scummy whereas he is concerned about people understanding his post. In fact I thought him and flowcaster where the scumteam and he used the inactivity of his scumbuddy to distance himself from him knowing well that if he fails to show up he'd get replaced, or that he could easily switch off him once he starts to post. That is not the case though. I'm town and you should sheep me on this one. I'll go over other people's filters shortly. My general impression is that jrkirby, nobodywonder, Targe and jampidampi are town. Also LAL means Lynch All Liars afaik. And lurkers aren't people who don't post at all but people who post little with little to no original content .. like Spicy. I will come out and say at the least incase I die tonight that I agree a lot with this analysis. Targe and spicydinosaur are 2 of my prime suspects, also wary of espi.casey. if you think you are going to die, you might as well give us the dirt on Targe. I don't see the point of delaying your analysis any further. what do you think of the other posters, any that take your attention? what do you think of hydra's case on dino? its worthless until any killing occur so if I die then so be it. I agree with his analysis on spicydinosaur for a couple of reasons. 1. he starts off the game by saying he was looking up ways, such as lurking, that would be considered anti-town. If that isnt suspicious I don't know what is. Onto more concrete evidence... 2. mafia tend to ask a lot of questions but don't have a lot of answers. asking why people are voting for others and what they think about others gives the illusion of productivity but in reality adds nothing. 3. Tons of bandwagoning and general agreeance with others. As soon as anybody pipes up about having suspicions about somebody else, he is right there to agree. I am also adding the flowcaster early vote to this. 4. Voting for targe late even though it has no impact on the vote. Shifts him away from the JarJar lynch and also separates scum into different places so as to cause confusion. If targe or spicy flips mafia, I would strongly consider the other being mafia as well. [/url]
Finally you spill!
I'd say that point 3 is a matter of my personality, not gameplay, I like to agree with people generally when it comes to a group, but you can read it how you want.
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On May 07 2013 03:57 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 03:52 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 07 2013 03:34 nobodywonder wrote:@Hydra Hi, good I like your posting so far. Keep it up. What did you think about the outcome of the JarJar lynch? There may be a mafia on it perhaps so I'm very suscipious of casey. I also don't like the last minute random voting between jrkirby and spicydinosaur. that was weird. On May 07 2013 03:23 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 07 2013 00:10 AllHailHydraGod wrote:Hey! I'm highly suspicious of Spicydinosaur. His play seems calculated, coasting his vote on the guy who hasn't posted at all for 2/3 of Day 1 so he doesn't have to explain himself much when hopping on a wagon close to deadline. And the way his vote wound up on flowcaster is also "troubling". See his filter, in posts #3 and #4 he's asking questions which I would interpret as townie but then it's like he doesn't even care about them at all. His # 5 is this: On May 06 2013 02:22 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Voted for FloWcaster for no postings. Still waiting on a few others analysis to decide if im going to change it. Got a busy day but will hopefully be back in time for deadline. What happened to his inquiries regarding nobodywonder's reason to vote Vayne.. or shirokami's lack of content and postponing analysis? Does he find them satisfying or scummy or what, he simply votes for pressuring the non-poster instead of pursuing his suspicions, letting people know where he stands.. they must've given him some impression but my hunch is he's not willing to share them because he wants to keep his options of jumping on their wagon open. His catch-up post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18508502］#6 does not give the impression as if he's interested to find things out. There's something about the way he starts his posts, look: On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
It seems at this point that flowcaster is going to be replaced so my vote for him is pointless and im going to change it. For the following reasons i am voting for Targe.
I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.
First off he's like warming up to it by saying his vote on flowcaster is useless. This is either townie realizing he has been playing anti-town or apologetic, cheeky scum. I can't tell but judging by the way he says these are the reasons for voting for Targe .. i don't know, sounds like it's hard for him to do so and he's getting ready to write some fiction. I mean since scum talk in their QT about who's mislynch to push I feel like this is a coordinated move in that they decided that Targe should be Spicydinosaur's target but he seems like he's working hard to come up with reasons. But the next sentence is where I think he gave himself away: On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.
As I've said he probably kept his options open to jump on one of the two he has questioned, actually, the only 2 people he had any sort of interactions with and even with these folks he didn't bother to comment on their replies to his questions. So here we see him choosing one of these options. The way the post is designed it's really rather sincere, like saying I was coasting so now I'm voting for one of the two guys I have a few sentences of content against, being extra careful because voting for anyone else would raise questions and scum/I don't like to explain myself. On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'll be on till vote time if anything needs help understanding.
Understanding what? It's not like he left room for anything to misinterpret, he's scum and it's that simple. Others are concerned about switching the vote because JarJar doesn't seem scummy whereas he is concerned about people understanding his post. In fact I thought him and flowcaster where the scumteam and he used the inactivity of his scumbuddy to distance himself from him knowing well that if he fails to show up he'd get replaced, or that he could easily switch off him once he starts to post. That is not the case though. I'm town and you should sheep me on this one. I'll go over other people's filters shortly. My general impression is that jrkirby, nobodywonder, Targe and jampidampi are town. Also LAL means Lynch All Liars afaik. And lurkers aren't people who don't post at all but people who post little with little to no original content .. like Spicy. I will come out and say at the least incase I die tonight that I agree a lot with this analysis. Targe and spicydinosaur are 2 of my prime suspects, also wary of espi.casey. if you think you are going to die, you might as well give us the dirt on Targe. I don't see the point of delaying your analysis any further. what do you think of the other posters, any that take your attention? what do you think of hydra's case on dino? its worthless until any killing occur so if I die then so be it. I agree with his analysis on spicydinosaur for a couple of reasons. 1. he starts off the game by saying he was looking up ways, such as lurking, that would be considered anti-town. If that isnt suspicious I don't know what is. Onto more concrete evidence... 2. mafia tend to ask a lot of questions but don't have a lot of answers. asking why people are voting for others and what they think about others gives the illusion of productivity but in reality adds nothing. 3. Tons of bandwagoning and general agreeance with others. As soon as anybody pipes up about having suspicions about somebody else, he is right there to agree. I am also adding the flowcaster early vote to this. 4. Voting for targe late even though it has no impact on the vote. Shifts him away from the JarJar lynch and also separates scum into different places so as to cause confusion. If targe or spicy flips mafia, I would strongly consider the other being mafia as well. Finally you spill! I'd say that point 3 is a matter of my personality, not gameplay, I like to agree with people generally when it comes to a group, but you can read it how you want. [/url]
that isnt analysis of you, its of spicy. As I stated I cant analyze you until the night killings occur.
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@AllHailHydraGod
my initial disdain for shirokami was because of his lack of posting, then he posted this:
On May 06 2013 03:53 shirokami wrote:
Im voting vayne for obvious scumslip: THERE ARE NO FRICKIN REASON TO NOT TELL YOU WHY SOMEONE IS SCUM IN A THREAD-ONLY GAME. It only looks bad and I think the reason in his vote against targe was because he has no reason. My logs are saying that targe is not scummy so thats it. I bet all my monnies that vayne flips scum.
Also about people voting JarJar, I like how he roasted jampidampi but they are both null for me right now, but they are definitely not scumbuddies, because only pro-scum even DARE do that kind of moves and this is not a pro-game. scum don't like attention.
Oh and people who sheep someone, Please say why. If you dont say why, thats useless and makes you look like a woolly babylonian.
@Calgar
Dude. you started the game with good discussion about LaL, but please contribute more, I want to see you post, because your filter is not fun.
@everyone
Feel free to ask anything.
Here he gives his opinion on vayne and why. He also was focusing on people voting for jarjar. I really didnt get a read on him one way or the other on him with this post or with his subsequent votes so I then focused on others.
As for jarjar, I initially like his posting as he called jampidampi out on the lynching lurker policy. The two of them had a good back and forth with jarjar defending his stance. After that exchange a lot of people began to pile on jarjar.
I still feel targe is scummy as I reread his posts. The majority of them he acts very sheepishly.
On May 04 2013 15:25 Targe wrote:
Lynching lurkers sounds like a good plan, what are we thinking for activity then? Obviously everyone has to post at least once a day but people could post more whilst dodging questions or important issues.
On May 04 2013 18:30 Targe wrote:
I have to agree with jampidampi on Vayne, both of his posts are general comments, neither contribute to important discussion on day 1.
He also seems to be waiting for others to give their opinion as he has stated on multiple occasions.
On May 05 2013 08:40 Targe wrote:
I'm still waiting for what shirokami and flowcaster have to say, shirokami sounds like he's made some interesting analysis with all his reading.
Also, I don't think jampi is acting like scum, he's talking sense with how scum can abuse the lynch policy.
On May 05 2013 20:21 Targe wrote:
I'm interested in what Jarjar is going to do, I think the conclusion has been reached that we won't policy lynch? Correct me if I'm wrong. You're right about his posts only concerning policy lynches though, he hasn't put forward any arguments on people and seems to be commenting on general topics only, activity like that is indicative of scum or SK.
This one paragraph here is all that targe gives on why he is voting jarjar. His reasoning can be directly applied to himself. His analysis of others is minimal and without much meat as seen below:
On May 05 2013 08:40 Targe wrote:
Also, I don't think jampi is acting like scum, he's talking sense with how scum can abuse the lynch policy.
On May 05 2013 20:21 Targe wrote:
Vayne's free to vote for me as no one isn't suspect on D1, he obviously has some logic behind his post but he hasn't shared it just yet.
Then after all is said and done, Targe writes this:
On May 06 2013 07:05 Targe wrote:
Looks like jarjar's eating this lynch, I was hoping the voting would put some pressure on him to explain himself but he hasn't responded, annoying, if he turns out to be town that is a wasted day and a lynch, we'll be giving scum breathing room for another day.
This sounds like he knows jarjar is town and is almost expressing sorrow before the vote is in to look like he made a mistake in the vote and that he is remorseful. The bolded part simply overstates the obvious and serves nothing but fluff.
On May 06 2013 15:25 Targe wrote:
ffs I wish I had seen that discussion and hadn't gone to bed, I only wanted to put pressure on jarjar but he posted after I went to sleep.
Here again he expresses remorse. He could have changed his vote when he saw the piling on of jarjar, yet he chose to keep it on him. These last two paragraphs just sound incredibly scummy to me combined with the lack of any real opinions of the other players.
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On May 07 2013 03:59 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 03:57 Targe wrote:On May 07 2013 03:52 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 07 2013 03:34 nobodywonder wrote:@Hydra Hi, good I like your posting so far. Keep it up. What did you think about the outcome of the JarJar lynch? There may be a mafia on it perhaps so I'm very suscipious of casey. I also don't like the last minute random voting between jrkirby and spicydinosaur. that was weird. On May 07 2013 03:23 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 07 2013 00:10 AllHailHydraGod wrote:Hey! I'm highly suspicious of Spicydinosaur. His play seems calculated, coasting his vote on the guy who hasn't posted at all for 2/3 of Day 1 so he doesn't have to explain himself much when hopping on a wagon close to deadline. And the way his vote wound up on flowcaster is also "troubling". See his filter, in posts #3 and #4 he's asking questions which I would interpret as townie but then it's like he doesn't even care about them at all. His # 5 is this: On May 06 2013 02:22 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Voted for FloWcaster for no postings. Still waiting on a few others analysis to decide if im going to change it. Got a busy day but will hopefully be back in time for deadline. What happened to his inquiries regarding nobodywonder's reason to vote Vayne.. or shirokami's lack of content and postponing analysis? Does he find them satisfying or scummy or what, he simply votes for pressuring the non-poster instead of pursuing his suspicions, letting people know where he stands.. they must've given him some impression but my hunch is he's not willing to share them because he wants to keep his options of jumping on their wagon open. His catch-up post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18508502］#6 does not give the impression as if he's interested to find things out. There's something about the way he starts his posts, look: On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
It seems at this point that flowcaster is going to be replaced so my vote for him is pointless and im going to change it. For the following reasons i am voting for Targe.
I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.
First off he's like warming up to it by saying his vote on flowcaster is useless. This is either townie realizing he has been playing anti-town or apologetic, cheeky scum. I can't tell but judging by the way he says these are the reasons for voting for Targe .. i don't know, sounds like it's hard for him to do so and he's getting ready to write some fiction. I mean since scum talk in their QT about who's mislynch to push I feel like this is a coordinated move in that they decided that Targe should be Spicydinosaur's target but he seems like he's working hard to come up with reasons. But the next sentence is where I think he gave himself away: On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.
As I've said he probably kept his options open to jump on one of the two he has questioned, actually, the only 2 people he had any sort of interactions with and even with these folks he didn't bother to comment on their replies to his questions. So here we see him choosing one of these options. The way the post is designed it's really rather sincere, like saying I was coasting so now I'm voting for one of the two guys I have a few sentences of content against, being extra careful because voting for anyone else would raise questions and scum/I don't like to explain myself. On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'll be on till vote time if anything needs help understanding.
Understanding what? It's not like he left room for anything to misinterpret, he's scum and it's that simple. Others are concerned about switching the vote because JarJar doesn't seem scummy whereas he is concerned about people understanding his post. In fact I thought him and flowcaster where the scumteam and he used the inactivity of his scumbuddy to distance himself from him knowing well that if he fails to show up he'd get replaced, or that he could easily switch off him once he starts to post. That is not the case though. I'm town and you should sheep me on this one. I'll go over other people's filters shortly. My general impression is that jrkirby, nobodywonder, Targe and jampidampi are town. Also LAL means Lynch All Liars afaik. And lurkers aren't people who don't post at all but people who post little with little to no original content .. like Spicy. I will come out and say at the least incase I die tonight that I agree a lot with this analysis. Targe and spicydinosaur are 2 of my prime suspects, also wary of espi.casey. if you think you are going to die, you might as well give us the dirt on Targe. I don't see the point of delaying your analysis any further. what do you think of the other posters, any that take your attention? what do you think of hydra's case on dino? its worthless until any killing occur so if I die then so be it. I agree with his analysis on spicydinosaur for a couple of reasons. 1. he starts off the game by saying he was looking up ways, such as lurking, that would be considered anti-town. If that isnt suspicious I don't know what is. Onto more concrete evidence... 2. mafia tend to ask a lot of questions but don't have a lot of answers. asking why people are voting for others and what they think about others gives the illusion of productivity but in reality adds nothing. 3. Tons of bandwagoning and general agreeance with others. As soon as anybody pipes up about having suspicions about somebody else, he is right there to agree. I am also adding the flowcaster early vote to this. 4. Voting for targe late even though it has no impact on the vote. Shifts him away from the JarJar lynch and also separates scum into different places so as to cause confusion. If targe or spicy flips mafia, I would strongly consider the other being mafia as well. Finally you spill! I'd say that point 3 is a matter of my personality, not gameplay, I like to agree with people generally when it comes to a group, but you can read it how you want. that isnt analysis of you, its of spicy. As I stated I cant analyze you until the night killings occur. [/url]
lol okay, point still stands though.
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On May 07 2013 04:00 Spicydinosaur wrote:@AllHailHydraGod my initial disdain for shirokami was because of his lack of posting, then he posted this: Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 03:53 shirokami wrote:
Im voting vayne for obvious scumslip: THERE ARE NO FRICKIN REASON TO NOT TELL YOU WHY SOMEONE IS SCUM IN A THREAD-ONLY GAME. It only looks bad and I think the reason in his vote against targe was because he has no reason. My logs are saying that targe is not scummy so thats it. I bet all my monnies that vayne flips scum.
Also about people voting JarJar, I like how he roasted jampidampi but they are both null for me right now, but they are definitely not scumbuddies, because only pro-scum even DARE do that kind of moves and this is not a pro-game. scum don't like attention.
Oh and people who sheep someone, Please say why. If you dont say why, thats useless and makes you look like a woolly babylonian.
@Calgar
Dude. you started the game with good discussion about LaL, but please contribute more, I want to see you post, because your filter is not fun.
@everyone
Feel free to ask anything. Here he gives his opinion on vayne and why. He also was focusing on people voting for jarjar. I really didnt get a read on him one way or the other on him with this post or with his subsequent votes so I then focused on others. As for jarjar, I initially like his posting as he called jampidampi out on the lynching lurker policy. The two of them had a good back and forth with jarjar defending his stance. After that exchange a lot of people began to pile on jarjar. I still feel targe is scummy as I reread his posts. The majority of them he acts very sheepishly. Show nested quote +On May 04 2013 15:25 Targe wrote:
Lynching lurkers sounds like a good plan, what are we thinking for activity then? Obviously everyone has to post at least once a day but people could post more whilst dodging questions or important issues. Show nested quote +On May 04 2013 18:30 Targe wrote:
I have to agree with jampidampi on Vayne, both of his posts are general comments, neither contribute to important discussion on day 1. He also seems to be waiting for others to give their opinion as he has stated on multiple occasions. Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 08:40 Targe wrote:
I'm still waiting for what shirokami and flowcaster have to say, shirokami sounds like he's made some interesting analysis with all his reading.
Also, I don't think jampi is acting like scum, he's talking sense with how scum can abuse the lynch policy. Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 20:21 Targe wrote:
I'm interested in what Jarjar is going to do, I think the conclusion has been reached that we won't policy lynch? Correct me if I'm wrong. You're right about his posts only concerning policy lynches though, he hasn't put forward any arguments on people and seems to be commenting on general topics only, activity like that is indicative of scum or SK. This one paragraph here is all that targe gives on why he is voting jarjar. His reasoning can be directly applied to himself. His analysis of others is minimal and without much meat as seen below: Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 08:40 Targe wrote:
Also, I don't think jampi is acting like scum, he's talking sense with how scum can abuse the lynch policy. Show nested quote +On May 05 2013 20:21 Targe wrote:
Vayne's free to vote for me as no one isn't suspect on D1, he obviously has some logic behind his post but he hasn't shared it just yet. Then after all is said and done, Targe writes this: Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 07:05 Targe wrote:
Looks like jarjar's eating this lynch, I was hoping the voting would put some pressure on him to explain himself but he hasn't responded, annoying, if he turns out to be town that is a wasted day and a lynch, we'll be giving scum breathing room for another day. This sounds like he knows jarjar is town and is almost expressing sorrow before the vote is in to look like he made a mistake in the vote and that he is remorseful. The bolded part simply overstates the obvious and serves nothing but fluff. Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 15:25 Targe wrote:
ffs I wish I had seen that discussion and hadn't gone to bed, I only wanted to put pressure on jarjar but he posted after I went to sleep. Here again he expresses remorse. He could have changed his vote when he saw the piling on of jarjar, yet he chose to keep it on him. These last two paragraphs just sound incredibly scummy to me combined with the lack of any real opinions of the other players.
I didn't think Jarjar was incredibly scummy no, but he was definitely not a clear townie, the aim of my vote was to put pressure on him and when I went to bed there were only 2 votes on him, one of them being me, had I been up I would have of course changed my vote because I would have both seen his post and seen that he was being BW'ed.
I've got to do some work now, be back in an hour or so.
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Important: If we do have a cop in this game, please inspect targe or spicy. At the least, one of them is mafia or my 3 years of not playing is showing.
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It should be quickly noted that I posted the above before I saw Targe's analysis of others. When I went to type up the post, his hadn't been submitted yet. Though in my book it changes very little as his reaction to the jarjar lynching (before and after) says more than his somewhat bland analysis of the others.
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On May 07 2013 03:52 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 03:34 nobodywonder wrote:@Hydra Hi, good I like your posting so far. Keep it up. What did you think about the outcome of the JarJar lynch? There may be a mafia on it perhaps so I'm very suscipious of casey. I also don't like the last minute random voting between jrkirby and spicydinosaur. that was weird. On May 07 2013 03:23 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 07 2013 00:10 AllHailHydraGod wrote:Hey! I'm highly suspicious of Spicydinosaur. His play seems calculated, coasting his vote on the guy who hasn't posted at all for 2/3 of Day 1 so he doesn't have to explain himself much when hopping on a wagon close to deadline. And the way his vote wound up on flowcaster is also "troubling". See his filter, in posts #3 and #4 he's asking questions which I would interpret as townie but then it's like he doesn't even care about them at all. His # 5 is this: On May 06 2013 02:22 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Voted for FloWcaster for no postings. Still waiting on a few others analysis to decide if im going to change it. Got a busy day but will hopefully be back in time for deadline. What happened to his inquiries regarding nobodywonder's reason to vote Vayne.. or shirokami's lack of content and postponing analysis? Does he find them satisfying or scummy or what, he simply votes for pressuring the non-poster instead of pursuing his suspicions, letting people know where he stands.. they must've given him some impression but my hunch is he's not willing to share them because he wants to keep his options of jumping on their wagon open. His catch-up post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18508502］#6 does not give the impression as if he's interested to find things out. There's something about the way he starts his posts, look: On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
It seems at this point that flowcaster is going to be replaced so my vote for him is pointless and im going to change it. For the following reasons i am voting for Targe.
I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.
First off he's like warming up to it by saying his vote on flowcaster is useless. This is either townie realizing he has been playing anti-town or apologetic, cheeky scum. I can't tell but judging by the way he says these are the reasons for voting for Targe .. i don't know, sounds like it's hard for him to do so and he's getting ready to write some fiction. I mean since scum talk in their QT about who's mislynch to push I feel like this is a coordinated move in that they decided that Targe should be Spicydinosaur's target but he seems like he's working hard to come up with reasons. But the next sentence is where I think he gave himself away: On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.
As I've said he probably kept his options open to jump on one of the two he has questioned, actually, the only 2 people he had any sort of interactions with and even with these folks he didn't bother to comment on their replies to his questions. So here we see him choosing one of these options. The way the post is designed it's really rather sincere, like saying I was coasting so now I'm voting for one of the two guys I have a few sentences of content against, being extra careful because voting for anyone else would raise questions and scum/I don't like to explain myself. On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'll be on till vote time if anything needs help understanding.
Understanding what? It's not like he left room for anything to misinterpret, he's scum and it's that simple. Others are concerned about switching the vote because JarJar doesn't seem scummy whereas he is concerned about people understanding his post. In fact I thought him and flowcaster where the scumteam and he used the inactivity of his scumbuddy to distance himself from him knowing well that if he fails to show up he'd get replaced, or that he could easily switch off him once he starts to post. That is not the case though. I'm town and you should sheep me on this one. I'll go over other people's filters shortly. My general impression is that jrkirby, nobodywonder, Targe and jampidampi are town. Also LAL means Lynch All Liars afaik. And lurkers aren't people who don't post at all but people who post little with little to no original content .. like Spicy. I will come out and say at the least incase I die tonight that I agree a lot with this analysis. Targe and spicydinosaur are 2 of my prime suspects, also wary of espi.casey. if you think you are going to die, you might as well give us the dirt on Targe. I don't see the point of delaying your analysis any further. what do you think of the other posters, any that take your attention? what do you think of hydra's case on dino? its worthless until any killing occur so if I die then so be it. I agree with his analysis on spicydinosaur for a couple of reasons. 1. he starts off the game by saying he was looking up ways, such as lurking, that would be considered anti-town. If that isnt suspicious I don't know what is. Onto more concrete evidence... 2. mafia tend to ask a lot of questions but don't have a lot of answers. asking why people are voting for others and what they think about others gives the illusion of productivity but in reality adds nothing. 3. Tons of bandwagoning and general agreeance with others. As soon as anybody pipes up about having suspicions about somebody else, he is right there to agree. I am also adding the flowcaster early vote to this. 4. Voting for targe late even though it has no impact on the vote. Shifts him away from the JarJar lynch and also separates scum into different places so as to cause confusion. If targe or spicy flips mafia, I would strongly consider the other being mafia as well. [/url]
1. Not much to really say against this point except that I'm new. If thats the feeling you're getting theres not much i can do to dispell it. Early in D1 I was behind the votes on lurker/ possibly lynch them because I felt those who gave no information would be no help at all.
2. jampidampi asked more 1 liner questions than anyone in this thread. I asked a few questions and have answered all that were asked of me.
3. Tons of bandwagoning? I've only been suspicious of 2 people in this game so far. shirokami and targe. shirokami was because of his delayed postings which dissipated when he actually started to post. My suspicions on targe are documented in my last few posts. Also I voted for the lurker because he gave 0 information. Only hours later when he was going to be mod killed/ replaced did I change it. I also stated I was going to be away for a while and be back before the deadline, thus the seemingly late change. You may claim that's bull but its the truth.
4. This point makes the least amount of sense. I voted for targe because I believed him to be the scummiest. Voting for anyone or not voting would have had 0 impact on the vote. If i voted for jarjar you would accuse me of bandwagoning, if i voted for someone else you would say the same as you do above. Given that multiple people wanted me to switch votes off of the lurker, i chose who i thought was scum.
As for targe/me being mafia... I welcome a cop to check me out.
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