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JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 06 2013 00:13 GMT
#261
So that's pretty much it? Everyone's just gonna disapear for the last few hours of the day? Again, no one else getting more than 1 vote should make everyone realize that I'm not scum.

Everyone that has just a single vote on someone is just wasting their vote right now. If I'm gonna be lynched then I'd like for the town to @ least get something out of it. Everyone should really consolidate votes so there's actually something to analyse tomorrow.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
May 06 2013 00:17 GMT
#262
Yeah, I can tell that you're not scum. I want to know what other peoples opinions on nobodywonder is.
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
May 06 2013 00:22 GMT
#263
Alright guys, who is actually around between now and lynch? I think it's the middle of the night for shiro, targ, and casey since they are in Europe so they won't be around. flowcaster is MIA as is spicydinosaur, although he's pledged to return by the deadline.

@jrkirby - who would you lynch right now instead of jarjar since you think he is town? Can we potentially swing the vote here? I'd say sugar or vayne over jarjar so we seem to disagree there since you say nobody?
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 06 2013 00:28 GMT
#264
On May 06 2013 09:17 jrkirby wrote:
Yeah, I can tell that you're not scum. I want to know what other peoples opinions on nobodywonder is.


My opinion on NW is that he's acted scummy in both of the other games I played in so I have a null read since he's acting similiar in this game.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
May 06 2013 00:42 GMT
#265
I would say swing the vote, but jarjar already has 5 votes and there aren't 5 active guys here. And the next voted guy is targe, who I have a null read on.
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
May 06 2013 00:49 GMT
#266
On May 06 2013 09:42 jrkirby wrote:
I would say swing the vote, but jarjar already has 5 votes and there aren't 5 active guys here. And the next voted guy is targe, who I have a null read on.
Mehh, I think everyone should try to be around for the lynch times. It can only ever help. I'll keep an eye to see if anyone else jumps in before 10 and something crazy happens.

Since you appear to be leaving us as of now in about an hour jarjar, can you give us any reads that you haven't mentioned or insights?
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
May 06 2013 00:59 GMT
#267
Also, you can claim right now, jarjar, but I bet you're VT.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 06 2013 01:17 GMT
#268
On May 06 2013 09:42 jrkirby wrote:
I would say swing the vote, but jarjar already has 5 votes and there aren't 5 active guys here. And the next voted guy is targe, who I have a null read on.
Well wouldn't you rather lynch someone you have a null read on instead of someone you read as town? If you and calgar switch then it'll be 5 to 4. Then maybe one of the people voting for me will show up and can switch it around.

And yes I'm VT.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 06 2013 01:21 GMT
#269
It seems at this point that flowcaster is going to be replaced so my vote for him is pointless and im going to change it. For the following reasons i am voting for Targe.

I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.

On May 06 2013 03:53 shirokami wrote:
Im voting vayne for obvious scumslip: THERE ARE NO FRICKIN REASON TO NOT TELL YOU WHY SOMEONE IS SCUM IN A THREAD-ONLY GAME. It only looks bad and I think the reason in his vote against targe was because he has no reason. My logs are saying that targe is not scummy so thats it. I bet all my monnies that vayne flips scum.

Also about people voting JarJar, I like how he roasted jampidampi but they are both null for me right now, but they are definitely not scumbuddies, because only pro-scum even DARE do that kind of moves and this is not a pro-game. scum don't like attention.

Oh and people who sheep someone, Please say why. If you dont say why, thats useless and makes you look like a woolly babylonian.

@Calgar

Dude. you started the game with good discussion about LaL, but please contribute more, I want to see you post, because your filter is not fun.


@everyone

Feel free to ask anything.


Vayne's post are quite troubling as many of you have pointed out, he doesn't reveal his thoughts to the group.

On May 06 2013 05:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 03:09 nobodywonder wrote:
@Vayne, just tell us why you vote Targe? Targe's posting doesn't seem particularly bad. At this point, Targe isn't even going to be lynched...in that case, will you tell us tomorrow? Or just hold it forever? In the end you should TELL US TODAY, otherwise I'm definitely saying you are scum.

If Targe is scum, then I don't see why wouldn't you just make a case and show us. Vayne, your play just doesn't make sense.

I actually have a couple of concerns about Targe's play too, so if you give us the analysis then that would be great.


shrug, just some brief pickups from him being too agreeable and deciding early on whether people are acting "scummy" or not. Also his push for lynching lurkers is something mafia tend to do early to gain an early foothold and town usually goes along with it, a common rookie mistake. I would rather just no lynch this day as theres almost nothing to go off of, but if I have to vote for now its going to be him

Not going to reveal the second part of my analysis just yet because I would like to see where this first lynching goes before I divulge any more of how I think because it could change the mafia playstyle.


His unwillingness to complete reveal is troubling but he has given some analysis. If this trend continues into day 2 then i would be more inclined to vote him.


Now finally to Targe. I feel he has tried to hide his views on others the most. Initially he seemed a bit sheepish just going along with the policy (though I can be viewed the same as well). However as the thread continued he keeps waiting to see what others are saying, which would not be bad in and of themselves. However I feel like an "opinion" that he has made on the other players is barebones. He suspects Jarjar in that he believes Jarjar only posts about the general topic and not the players, yet Targe I feel is guilty of the same.

On May 05 2013 20:21 Targe wrote:

I'm interested in what Jarjar is going to do, I think the conclusion has been reached that we won't policy lynch? Correct me if I'm wrong. You're right about his posts only concerning policy lynches though, he hasn't put forward any arguments on people and seems to be commenting on general topics only, activity like that is indicative of scum or SK.


Jarjar early on went after Vayne for this post and I feel at least for this day, Jarjar tried to encourage the discussion:

On May 04 2013 22:51 JarJarDrinks wrote:
couple of FOS's


@VayneAuthority -
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 14:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
Not enough information yet to know whether I want to lynch lurkers or not. I need at least a post from everyone first, as well as some votes to come in. then we'll see
Not Enough information to know whether we should policy lynch lurkers? The whole point of the policy vote is to get information. Saying that you want to see votes before you decide whether you want lynch lurkers sounds pretty bad. Like you're giving yourself an out in case your scum teammates starts to gather votes.



@jampidampi -
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 15:08 jampidampi wrote:
Yes, rolled town again.

On May 04 2013 12:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
this will be rough considering it is a no clue game. First day of lynching is just purely a guess at this point, ill probably get the ball rolling later once I see some more posts

Why post something like this instead of trying to create discussion?

On May 04 2013 12:10 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey all, looking forward to a fun game. I agree with the general notion that lurking should be dissuaded and active posting should be encouraged. However I'd like to add that we should be on the lookout for postings that simply mask for scum, those that add little to the discussion but give the illusion of participation.

Like this post of yours?

I'm not sold on policy lynching. If we agree to policy lynch, it creates an easy way for scum to mask themselves in the town. And if we agree on a policy, scum can just avoid doing whatever we policy lynch for. Like just posting a bit more than the lurkiest lurker. What I suggest is leaving lurkers for our blues to handle. Scummy lurkers are shot by vigis, null lurkers are checked by cops, towny lurkers are not are a big concern.

First of all, what's the point of telling us you rolled town?

Now, to answer you about scum masking themselves w/ policy: the point of LaL is not to actually lynch the lurkers. It's to make it so there are no lurkers. We want everyone putting as much information and opinions out there.

But the wierd thing about you saying that you're not sold on policy lynching lurkers is that you then vote a lurker. This is your next post:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 17:20 jampidampi wrote:
My votes on you to pile up the pressure. Many votes on one lurker makes all lurker fear for their life. Even better if the vote is on an scummer. The only way to make use of day one is to make scummers fear for their life.

What makes VayneAuthority suspicious to you?
Seems like you got sold on it pretty quickly.


The others dont bother me as much such as Calgar and nobody. As such, because of the impending mod kill, i am changing my vote to targe. I'll be on till vote time if anything needs help understanding.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
May 06 2013 01:23 GMT
#270
Well, I'm willing to give it a shot. But I doubt your ass will be saved. I wish people had lynched you like this last game.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
May 06 2013 01:28 GMT
#271
Well, here's spicy on targe. If Calgar comes too we'll get a tie, but a tie isn't enough to lynch because jarjar got the votes first. And I'm really wary about this, because I don't really think targe is scum either. I'm just less confident of his townyness than jarjar.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 06 2013 01:35 GMT
#272
Well @ least it's a 2 horse race now. We know Calgar is definately around so if he doesn't vote Targe then we can pretty much count him as a vote for me. Hopefully someone else shows up.
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
May 06 2013 01:37 GMT
#273
I'm also extremely hesitant because I think several other people are scummier than targe. He's also said that he's left the thread which makes him an easy target to flip the lynch to when he can't defend himself.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 06 2013 01:40 GMT
#274
indeed this late bandwagon switch is very troubling. Whoever is a town PR role NEEDS to inspect Jarjar/Targe tonight, whoever doesnt die.
I come in for the scraps
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 06 2013 01:40 GMT
#275
On May 06 2013 10:37 calgar wrote:
I'm also extremely hesitant because I think several other people are scummier than targe.

Do you think I'm scummier then him though? That's really all that matters right now.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
May 06 2013 01:41 GMT
#276
Yeah, you're right. I'm going to switch my vote to no lynch even though it won't change anything. Voting for targe just doesn't sit right.
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
May 06 2013 01:49 GMT
#277
On May 06 2013 10:40 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 10:37 calgar wrote:
I'm also extremely hesitant because I think several other people are scummier than targe.

Do you think I'm scummier then him though? That's really all that matters right now.
Well it really depends on the timing for me. Before you started defending yourself I probably would have said you were both lower on my radar but you more than him. Now that you've done some explaining, I'd say him, but the fact that this has turned into a "switch to the guy who has said goodnight" instead of someone like vayne makes me much more reluctant to switch.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 06 2013 01:51 GMT
#278
God, vayne is so town dude.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 06 2013 01:55 GMT
#279
Targe for sure is still my #1 suspect.

Jampi, not so sure about him anymore because I don't know that him and Targe would both pile on me so close together. But one of them is scum for sure.

Vayne is town. I don't think he's playing a particularly good game but he's not acting scummy @ all. I don't get why people are reading him as scum.

jrkirby and Calgar. One of these guys is scum. There's always a scummy soft defending a townie before he gets lynched. I really hate Calgars scum reads so far but kirby changing to no lynch when there was a chance I could be saved (remember he said he read me as town) was pretty bad. If I had to guess I'd lean toward Calgar being the scummy, especially if I'm right about Targe.

Good Luck town.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 06 2013 02:01 GMT
#280
The deadline has been reached. The night post will be posted shortly.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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