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On April 19 2013 00:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Nah Caller, town won because town spammed the shit out of the thread and scum went afk (with the exception of BM) until it was too late. Then afked some more. im sorry i cant hear you over the sound of you being mad
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On April 19 2013 00:42 austinmcc wrote: D0 being the pregame? Before roles were given.
On April 19 2013 00:43 Caller wrote: stop talking about how bad these guys were and more about how awesome me + goznaw + palmar were NEED EPEEN You were all awesome. Besides you calling me scum on N1. :D
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On April 19 2013 00:47 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 00:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Nah Caller, town won because town spammed the shit out of the thread and scum went afk (with the exception of BM) until it was too late. Then afked some more. im sorry i cant hear you over the sound of you being mad I think your inability to hear me has more to do with the fact that you're dead
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Oh yea, @scum:
I'm assuming rayn was shot because you thought he was inventor?
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On April 19 2013 00:51 Keirathi wrote: Oh yea, @scum:
I'm assuming rayn was shot because you thought he was inventor? That was my intention, to get shot on N1, as i did not get the CPRdoc. I breadcrumbed Mocsta what role did i try to pick but the jan screwed that up. :/
I was kinda sure the guy from top 2 picked CPR was scum, just couldn't figure out which one of those two it was. :/
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On April 19 2013 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 00:51 Keirathi wrote: Oh yea, @scum:
I'm assuming rayn was shot because you thought he was inventor? That was my intention, to get shot on N1, as i did not get the CPRdoc. I breadcrumbed Mocsta what role did i try to pick but the jan screwed that up. :/ I was kinda sure the guy from top 2 picked CPR was scum, just couldn't figure out which one of those two it was. :/ If only you had actually flipped sn0 gave me an excellent hint that he was inventor, so my townread on him strengthened like 10x. If I had known you tried for CPR, I would have been much more certain about OO.
Oh yea, @Moc:
On April 13 2013 11:42 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2013 11:08 Keirathi wrote: Something I've been pondering:
BM says his role was renamed to Injustice Vig. What does that imply?
A justice vig can only shoot scum, or he dies. Can an Injustice Vig only shoot town, or he dies? If he's town, that's a terrible "character theme" power. But it could make the JV role pickable for scum, if they were thorough enough to ask about it before the picking phase ended. Thats the biggest bunch of WIFOM malarkey I have read this game.
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Yeah i should have claimed what i tried to pick and that i got vanilla when decon said he used the jan in thread.. Oh well, didn't think of that then.
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I find it funny that 2 townies who tried to deny scum roles (CPR and NRA) were both 1 pick below the scum who got said roles.
I also find it funny that exactly 1 person (me) submitted inventor. I meant what I said pre-game (that I didn't really want to be inventor). I ended up deciding that as 1st overall pick I kinda had to take it, but it was close for a bit.
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On April 19 2013 00:58 Sn0_Man wrote: I find it funny that 2 townies who tried to deny scum roles (CPR and NRA) were both 1 pick below the scum who got said roles.
I also find it funny that exactly 1 person (me) submitted inventor. I meant what I said pre-game (that I didn't really want to be inventor). I ended up deciding that as 1st overall pick I kinda had to take it, but it was close for a bit. I was gonna shoot scum with CPR.
You kinda implied (that's what i thought) that you picked a KP role, that's why i wasn't sure of you and OO although i was leaning on OO being more likely scum than you by the end of N1.
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Also: No one actually took Assassin :o
Artanis took Godfather, whose Kingpin bonuse was the get the abilities of whatever role he chose to appear as.
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all your best analysis always dismissed as wifom, kei
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Nobody took assassin, BC, priest, thief/roleswapper.
Only one person grabbed JOAT which was loaded. Only one person tried for inventor (so many people spoke up about it that it looks like almost everyone thought it wasn't worth trying). Nobody else went for copycat, which I remembered being something people cared about in PYP2. Nobody went for Ver.
Really surprising.
I kind of wondered how a role that either just (1) gets told what roles were leftover and unclaimed or (2) gets told what roles were leftover and unclaimed, and gets to pick a role from that list would work. It's possible you could only give that to mafia, because it would make the game much harder for them if it were in town hands probably, but it seemed like a role that would be super powerful within the confines of a PYP game and yet could be set to not actually take any direct action, just get information.
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On April 19 2013 01:03 marvellosity wrote: all your best analysis always dismissed as wifom, kei Too true
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I originally planned to pick priest (I'm not getting NK'd early anyways) or maybe witch because I figured nobody else would, but then I got distracted by thinking I should pick GF, then I got distracted by thinking that Framer could actually misdirect actions. Turns out it just makes it look like it in a game without watchers/trackers (wat)
Oh well. We won!
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I'm also happy I didn't get mislynched. Palmar seemed to wish for my lynch rather too much night 1.
Still never mislynched yay.
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On April 19 2013 01:24 Sn0_Man wrote: I'm also happy I didn't get mislynched. Palmar seemed to wish for my lynch rather too much night 1.
Still never mislynched yay.
I was in full troll mode n1.
Also I thought about taking ver but I figured someone above me would take it. I also wanted assassin to kill VE 5 minutes into day 1 but again thought I'd never get it.
Also I found the goddamn emperor somewhat fitting for me. I'm going to petition for a name change for that role to be Palmar.
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On April 19 2013 01:01 Keirathi wrote: Also: No one actually took Assassin :o
Artanis took Godfather, whose Kingpin bonuse was the get the abilities of whatever role he chose to appear as.
wtf
so had a townie got Assassin and "denied" it from scum....Artanis would still have gotten it? lol
@syllo: I agree that town shouldn't be given ALL the info EVER, but they SHOULD be given the exact guidelines of how the game works. PYP has "set" standards and NEVER deviates from those. From the OP, the only thing different where the "extra benefits" thing from chars, nothing else. I think that bit of information was not enough to change people's mind about how this game actually worked (i.e basically every role was different). If not people WILL follow the guidelines from normal PYP games (why?.....because this is a PYP game) and then you'll end up with shitty speculation and cring-worthy posts and shit going on which is basically annoying as fuck.
In "normal" themed games that doesn't happen because everybody knows the guidelines from the get-go: "anything can happen in the game"
You don't change paradigms and shit like that. It'd be like changing roles mid-game in a Normal Mini Mafia or something.
Having a deceiving OP is also not cool :/ At the very least you can tell town: Not all roles in the OP are as they seem so they know what to expect/not to expect. I don't remember anything like that in there
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On April 19 2013 02:44 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 01:01 Keirathi wrote: Also: No one actually took Assassin :o
Artanis took Godfather, whose Kingpin bonuse was the get the abilities of whatever role he chose to appear as. wtf so had a townie got Assassin and "denied" it from scum....Artanis would still have gotten it? lol Yep.
As far as the rest of your post, my character theme was Kingpin so I got bonuses to "Traditional Mafia" roles. I asked about a few, and they just seemed like simple bonuses: an extra roleblock, extra voterigger, etc. Sadly I didn't actually ask about godfather (not that I could have gotten it anyway with Artanis taking it). Just asking about that would have made me realize just how much the bonuses could change the roles.
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On April 19 2013 02:24 Palmar wrote:
Also I found the goddamn emperor somewhat fitting for me. I'm going to petition for a name change for that role to be Palmar.
I said to BC that I thought you chose that role just for the name :x
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Next time, just call it Bastard Empire Mafia: PYP, so people know what they're getting into.
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