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sinani206
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geript
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Mocsta
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Who was the check on And what was the outcome | ||
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sinani206
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On April 14 2013 14:29 geript wrote: Don't we have like 24 hours still? Have I completely lost track of time? yeah thats my point | ||
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Restraining Order
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On April 14 2013 13:43 Shelvocke wrote: Can someone post the mason logs? Tell you what, I'm going to post the logs once you have shared all of the following within the day: Thoughts on all remaining players Who you want to lynch and why Who you think is scum and why And 2 mystery topics that you find important but none of us have really talked about/acknowledged yet. It's in your pooooower. | ||
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strongandbig
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On April 14 2013 14:50 Mocsta wrote: Vivax Who was the check on And what was the outcome You're an idiot He's posted this And I've like re-posted it Why don't you even try to look | ||
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Keirathi
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On April 14 2013 06:57 strongandbig wrote: oh i didnt realize that he couldnt frame himself. well who do you think we should lynch today? It's a toss up between you and Vivax, with you leading right now. So, who do YOU want to lynch today? You haven't said. Well, I guess you said that we should lynch dandel, but only because you think he is framer. What about his play? What about anyone else? On April 14 2013 13:42 geript wrote: I don't understand why Keirathi is getting a free pass here. He himself said multiple times IIRC that BM's role would reveal itself regardless and had no need for investigation. There was literally 0 reason to check him. Checking Micsta, Vivax, RO or S&B were his best options clearly. I really wish I had thought more and tossed it at Keirathi instead. Why is he not being looked at whatsoever? I'll explain. Yes, his role was self-confirming if he was town AND he was compulsive, or if he was town and not compulsive but agreed to shoot a specific target for us and "take one for the team". If he wasn't using his ability in any way we could track, then how was he self-confirming? He claimed that he wasn't compulsive anymore. I dunno about you, but I don't think that's entirely out of the realm of possibilities for a theme bonus. And if he's not compulsive, then him being alive doesn't mean anything. He would have just been this big question mark until someone checked him or we just lynched him anyways. Better to be sure, IMO. As for the bolded: you have no idea how much I wish you had to. | ||
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Keirathi
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Remember, I was the first of the cops to claim my actual role. We had 3 people claim cop checks...me, austin, and S&B. Vivax hadn't claimed yet. And remember, austin and S&B had both claimed alignment checks, S&B hadn't claimed his role check yet, nor had Sharrant claimed that he had tried to take DT yet. So, despite all that, I just happened to guess the right cop role that wasn't picked? So yea, its EXTREMELY likely that I am actually NKVD. If you want to say "Okay, I believe that you are NKVD because the facts don't make sense otherwise, but I still think you could have picked NKVD as scum." Then I ask you the question: why would I have? Yes, I have myself set up to return as vanilla to role cop checks (because I expected, and still sorta do, that scum probably took a role check ability if they took assassin). But if I was scum, why not just take Godfather, and get to protect one of my teammates as well? NKVD is strictly inferior to GF in every way. Also of note is that NKVD doesn't change your alignment to alignment checks, so an alignment check could clear this right up. | ||
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geript
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Keirathi
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On April 15 2013 01:58 geript wrote: Scum took justice vig. They clearly asked about that. Why is it unbelievable that they could take NKVD and get roles off of it. For the same reason I don't think it likely that if Vivax is actually a Parity Cop that he is scum. I feel like that kind of bonus fundamentally changes how a role is designed and starts clashing with other roles, doing the exact same job. Maybe it is possible, I dunno. Of the two role bonuses we have evidence for, one was just an addon self-preservation power, and one (apparently) was a complete reversal of the role. (And I don't actually think this fundamentally makes the role start clashing with other roles...although it does provide a similar outcome, the mechanics are still different). | ||
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Vivax
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Vivax
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On April 07 2013 16:04 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah Gonzaw. I disagree that Artanis is scum. Pure gut read so meh. If you got the time, look at British 2. Is he similar to there? Or different. Why not Vivax? Also Im up for a sn0man lynch for being UTTERLY USELESS. On April 07 2013 16:40 Oatsmaster wrote: Gonzaw you understand what I mean by GUT READ? (it means I felt that he was town reading the thread.) I agree that artanis looks scummy. I still want to lynch Vivax though, Im way more familar with his play and this does not feel like his town play. Also he is scummy!?!?! (so wishywashy right?  ) | ||
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Restraining Order
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Needed reminder: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403766¤tpage=96#1910 | ||
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Vivax
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Vivax
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Caller was town derp | ||
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strongandbig
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On April 15 2013 00:22 Keirathi wrote: It's a toss up between you and Vivax, with you leading right now. So, who do YOU want to lynch today? You haven't said. Well, I guess you said that we should lynch dandel, but only because you think he is framer. What about his play? What about anyone else? I'll explain. Yes, his role was self-confirming if he was town AND he was compulsive, or if he was town and not compulsive but agreed to shoot a specific target for us and "take one for the team". If he wasn't using his ability in any way we could track, then how was he self-confirming? He claimed that he wasn't compulsive anymore. I dunno about you, but I don't think that's entirely out of the realm of possibilities for a theme bonus. And if he's not compulsive, then him being alive doesn't mean anything. He would have just been this big question mark until someone checked him or we just lynched him anyways. Better to be sure, IMO. As for the bolded: you have no idea how much I wish you had to. you asked me who i want to lynch. i'm not sure. based on the outing of VE as nra member, i think geript is town. based on role choice I think oatsmaster is town. Sinani, mocsta, and yamato all have green checks. vivax, you and me are all DTs and i still believe that lynching a DT doesn't make sense when we could be checking each other and others. That leaves Shelvocke and RO. So I want to lynch one of them. i think it's actually pretty likely shelvocke is a traitor, especially if it's actually Ace. My point about him not knowing that DT was already taken was apparently incorrect, and that was the only reason I wasn't considering him the most likely traitor. So at the moment I think I most want to lynch Shelvocke. | ||
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Vivax
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strongandbig
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On April 15 2013 03:52 Vivax wrote: We also know there are two scum left herp Caller was town derp artanis, VE, OO, and BM all flipped scum. There are either zero or one scum left, with the possibility of a traitor. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On April 15 2013 03:53 strongandbig wrote: you asked me who i want to lynch. i'm not sure. based on the outing of VE as nra member, i think geript is town. based on role choice I think oatsmaster is town. Sinani, mocsta, and yamato all have green checks. vivax, you and me are all DTs and i still believe that lynching a DT doesn't make sense when we could be checking each other and others. That leaves Shelvocke and RO. So I want to lynch one of them. i think it's actually pretty likely shelvocke is a traitor, especially if it's actually Ace. My point about him not knowing that DT was already taken was apparently incorrect, and that was the only reason I wasn't considering him the most likely traitor. So at the moment I think I most want to lynch Shelvocke. But I still wouldn't object to killing RO either. anyway ##unvote ##vote: shelvocke | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
Lynch for scum. If we kill 5, and the game is still going, THEN worry about it. | ||
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