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On April 08 2013 05:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: @austin: you and gonzaw both bring up good points that certain people have cases made about them and then the thread seems to forget or gloss over them. Regardless of who gets lynched today, I think we really need to remember the other suspects from today and address them tomorrow because you're right, there has not been a lot of discussion about people who I feel are very good lynch options. You have had a lot of posts I've liked, and we have agreed on a couple things this game that make me feel good about you.
But this post in particular feels weak. You earlier wanted to lynch artanis based on gonzaw's case, with shelvocke as a second choice based on your case and perhaps some of what I brought up. Now you go buddy-mode and say that there are good points being made about "people have cases made about them" that get forgotten, when the "people" at issue are your top and second lynch candidate allegedly.
That seems...very uninvested in your reads?
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On April 08 2013 05:16 gonzaw wrote: Hmm, one quick question guys (please answer):
Are you content with the way this D1 is going? As in, how discussion in general is going, how scumhunting is going, how pressure on players is going, how consolidation is going, etc? How players are part of thread/discussions, etc?
I personally don't like it that much. Not content atm, but not in a way that I think necessitates role usage in order to bring everyone to attention, which may or may not be what you're hinting at.
I'd like follow-up on Shelvocke, especially in light of how you felt like there's been a lot of discussion on him when, in actuality, nobody had commented on him before Meapak and I asked about it, and nobody appears to have really looked him back over.
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Not really feeling the case on Artanis at the moment.
I've just read over Sno's filter from the 3 Newbie games he was in. First of all, he posted a shitload more in the first two games he played. He was active, he made good cases and generally played well. He was town in both games.
In his third game he subbed in as scum about 2/3 of the way through. He posted a lot less than his first two games, and got lynched pretty quickly. However as this was a sub-in I wouldn't put too much weight in this. He also still posted a hell of a lot more than he has so far this game.
I'd be almost willing to vote him on this alone, but it could be some RL reasons keeping him from posting.
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Ok Kei, how well do you know Caller.
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On April 08 2013 05:16 gonzaw wrote: Hmm, one quick question guys (please answer):
Are you content with the way this D1 is going? As in, how discussion in general is going, how scumhunting is going, how pressure on players is going, how consolidation is going, etc? How players are part of thread/discussions, etc?
I personally don't like it that much.
Its pretty slow, but that's not unusual for games without a mayoral election.
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On April 08 2013 05:17 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 05:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: @austin: you and gonzaw both bring up good points that certain people have cases made about them and then the thread seems to forget or gloss over them. Regardless of who gets lynched today, I think we really need to remember the other suspects from today and address them tomorrow because you're right, there has not been a lot of discussion about people who I feel are very good lynch options. You have had a lot of posts I've liked, and we have agreed on a couple things this game that make me feel good about you. But this post in particular feels weak. You earlier wanted to lynch artanis based on gonzaw's case, with shelvocke as a second choice based on your case and perhaps some of what I brought up. Now you go buddy-mode and say that there are good points being made about "people have cases made about them" that get forgotten, when the "people" at issue are your top and second lynch candidate allegedly. That seems...very uninvested in your reads? I've been suspicious of artanis since the beginning of the game, gonzaw's case crystallized a lot of what I was feeling. The second part of my post is garbled I guess. I was basically trying to say today we kill one of shevlocke/artanis and tomorrow kill the other. I want to avoid the thread "forgetting" about people (and by people I'm really just talking about shevlocke/artanis). Keep in mind that just because the people are my top two candidates doesn't mean that they're everyone's top two candidates, there's plenty of time for the cases to get buried and forgotten.
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Meapak why aren't you voting Artanis then?
austin, my main point is that Shevlocke was started to being talked about once D1 started. Yes, by the time I made my Artanis case people didn't really talk about him much, but nobody really did anything else other than wagon on S&B and argue with Vivax.
I don't think my point on Artanis goes well with Shevlocke because of that. Remember the ONLY time someone called Artanis out was Mepaak and me back in the drafting picking phase basically (and maybe Mocsta when he was arguing with him about geripts case).
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ObviousOne is another person who is pretty much inactive in this game, compared to his prolific posting in other games.
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On April 08 2013 05:35 gonzaw wrote: Meapak why aren't you voting Artanis then?
Forgot to lol
Anyway I'm gonna be out for a while, don't do anything stupid while I'm gone people
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On April 08 2013 05:35 gonzaw wrote: austin, my main point is that Shevlocke was started to being talked about once D1 started. Yes, by the time I made my Artanis case people didn't really talk about him much, but nobody really did anything else other than wagon on S&B and argue with Vivax.
I don't think my point on Artanis goes well with Shevlocke because of that. Remember the ONLY time someone called Artanis out was Mepaak and me back in the drafting picking phase basically (and maybe Mocsta when he was arguing with him about geripts case). I went back page by page for like 10, I don't terribly want to go back page by page for the first 60 of the game, but I don't believe this is true.
So until one of us does that, we'll just disagree as to how much discussion there was on each of them. And I'm 100% certain that there was ZERO discussion of him today from the point that meapak and I posted on him until I started poking you about him. And while poking you, nobody else who has been entering the thread appears to really be looking at him either.
If you're looking at flying under the radar, ta da! he is. If you're looking for questionable votes, lack of scumhunting in the posts he's made, bursts of activity in which he responds heavily to single discussions (rayn) and then disappears without engaging the thread as a whole, ta da!
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On April 08 2013 05:23 geript wrote: Ok Kei, how well do you know Caller. I don't know Caller at all. Never played with him, or read any game that he played in. All i know about him is that he hosts games that never end :o
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On April 08 2013 05:37 deconduo wrote: ObviousOne is another person who is pretty much inactive in this game, compared to his prolific posting in other games. If I could grill and play at the same time I totally would. I see that gonzaw wants me to draw conclusions from my supplement to his meta case (since he done failed at doing it all proper like) so I guess I'll check Artanis' town games too for myself. I know we played together in Fruity. I'll get back with you after I finish grilling and consuming these ribs.
Don't hate.
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On April 08 2013 05:21 deconduo wrote: Not really feeling the case on Artanis at the moment.
I've just read over Sno's filter from the 3 Newbie games he was in. First of all, he posted a shitload more in the first two games he played. He was active, he made good cases and generally played well. He was town in both games.
In his third game he subbed in as scum about 2/3 of the way through. He posted a lot less than his first two games, and got lynched pretty quickly. However as this was a sub-in I wouldn't put too much weight in this. He also still posted a hell of a lot more than he has so far this game.
I'd be almost willing to vote him on this alone, but it could be some RL reasons keeping him from posting.
Only one way to find out, let's hold hands and call him to us.
##Vote Sno_Man
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On April 08 2013 05:53 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 05:37 deconduo wrote: ObviousOne is another person who is pretty much inactive in this game, compared to his prolific posting in other games. If I could grill and play at the same time I totally would. I see that gonzaw wants me to draw conclusions from my supplement to his meta case (since he done failed at doing it all proper like) so I guess I'll check Artanis' town games too for myself. I know we played together in Fruity. I'll get back with you after I finish grilling and consuming these ribs. Don't hate.
Cool. Next on my list:
##Vote: Shelvocke
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Hmm.... Okay I have an idea guys, wait a second while I write the post
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Wait deconduo, have you mentioned why you want to kill Shevlocke before? I've skimmed your filter and didn't see anything (I may have missed it though)
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night dudes, be back in 15 hours/. please lynch artanis before I get back
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On April 08 2013 06:01 gonzaw wrote: Wait deconduo, have you mentioned why you want to kill Shevlocke before? I've skimmed your filter and didn't see anything (I may have missed it though)
Nope. Just want to pressure him and see if he appears like OO did.
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Hmm, my Artanis lynch seems to have quite a bit of resistance. Interesting (not to say those resisting are scum though. I have some slight town reads on some resisting it, which makes it even more "interesting").
So let's try something different:
I have the ability to kill someone this D1
So, get to it town. Who should I kill?
More importantly, for certain players (snoman, etc), convince me why I shouldn't just kill you right now.
I hope EVERYBODY tells me in detail who they want me to kill, why, how that affects their lynch candidate, or if they want me to keep my KP for later and not use it. This is your chance to get your SCUMREAD KILLED 100%, if you are good at convincing both me and town (but mostly me); so this is your chance to step up your game and actively try to get your scumread killed (no hiding behind "parking your vote" or shit like that)
"But gonzaw, why haven't you killed Artanis yet?"
Because I'm not an idiot. I prefer some discussion on these kind of players. If someone is active or semi-active and I find him suspicious or even as scum, it's more important to see how other people react, see town sentiment on that guy, and at worst be convinced against killing him if he's somehow town, plus creating discussion and the like. Also apparently people are not convinced by my case. I think killing him D1 without any feedback from town would have been a bad idea in retrospect, even if he flipped scum
I may or may not kill him this D1. I still prefer him for lynch instead.
So snoman, Shevlocke, RO, maybe rayn/VE/Caller/Palmar/Sharrant/etc. Show me this D1 why I shouldn't just kill you right now. Also of course post who you want killed, or if you don't want me to kill anybody just yet. Failing to do so may result in a little symptom....called being shot/nuked through your head
"But gonzaw, why complain about others vigging someone, if you could kill them yourself?"
Because I'm not an idiot I want Snoman, etc to make a stance and have a chance to prove to us they are town and scumhunt before just blindly killing them. I hoped they'd do something by now but that failed. Hopefully this doesn't.
"But gonzaw, why claim now?
I reread the roles and I don't see anything that can "fuck up" with a day KP (other than maybe "Showtime!", but that can fuck us at any time, and (of course), a day vig/Assassin used on me) Plus I feel there's not much going on. Many people oppose my Artanis case, so that's going nowhere. People are suspicious of some other players, but it just keeps it there, specially if those players are not doing anything else currently or maybe not even show up. I feel this D1 is kind of stagnated, and I don't like it. I mean there are like 9 different people having votes on them right now, there's no consolidation, both in votes and in thread sentiment. Some people have even parked their vote on some random guys (yamato on Palmar, Sharrant on Keirathi) and they seem to keep it there. Some people are just coasting through not doing shit and feeling no pressure. I think it may be time to change that. I tried changing that up with the Artanis case, but it seems it hasn't worked. Let's see if this changes anything.
+ Show Spoiler +Also if someone shoots me right now or something insta-lynch him please
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On April 08 2013 06:18 gonzaw wrote:Hmm, my Artanis lynch seems to have quite a bit of resistance. Interesting (not to say those resisting are scum though. I have some slight town reads on some resisting it, which makes it even more "interesting"). So let's try something different: I have the ability to kill someone this D1So, get to it town. Who should I kill? More importantly, for certain players (snoman, etc), convince me why I shouldn't just kill you right now. I hope EVERYBODY tells me in detail who they want me to kill, why, how that affects their lynch candidate, or if they want me to keep my KP for later and not use it. This is your chance to get your SCUMREAD KILLED 100%, if you are good at convincing both me and town (but mostly me); so this is your chance to step up your game and actively try to get your scumread killed (no hiding behind "parking your vote" or shit like that) "But gonzaw, why haven't you killed Artanis yet?"Because I'm not an idiot. I prefer some discussion on these kind of players. If someone is active or semi-active and I find him suspicious or even as scum, it's more important to see how other people react, see town sentiment on that guy, and at worst be convinced against killing him if he's somehow town, plus creating discussion and the like. Also apparently people are not convinced by my case. I think killing him D1 without any feedback from town would have been a bad idea in retrospect, even if he flipped scum I may or may not kill him this D1. I still prefer him for lynch instead. So snoman, Shevlocke, RO, maybe rayn/VE/Caller/Palmar/Sharrant/etc. Show me this D1 why I shouldn't just kill you right now. Also of course post who you want killed, or if you don't want me to kill anybody just yet. Failing to do so may result in a little symptom....called being shot/nuked through your head "But gonzaw, why complain about others vigging someone, if you could kill them yourself?"Because I'm not an idiot I want Snoman, etc to make a stance and have a chance to prove to us they are town and scumhunt before just blindly killing them. I hoped they'd do something by now but that failed. Hopefully this doesn't. "But gonzaw, why claim now?I reread the roles and I don't see anything that can "fuck up" with a day KP (other than maybe "Showtime!", but that can fuck us at any time, and (of course), a day vig/Assassin used on me) Plus I feel there's not much going on. Many people oppose my Artanis case, so that's going nowhere. People are suspicious of some other players, but it just keeps it there, specially if those players are not doing anything else currently or maybe not even show up. I feel this D1 is kind of stagnated, and I don't like it. I mean there are like 9 different people having votes on them right now, there's no consolidation, both in votes and in thread sentiment. Some people have even parked their vote on some random guys (yamato on Palmar, Sharrant on Keirathi) and they seem to keep it there. Some people are just coasting through not doing shit and feeling no pressure. I think it may be time to change that. I tried changing that up with the Artanis case, but it seems it hasn't worked. Let's see if this changes anything. + Show Spoiler +Also if someone shoots me right now or something insta-lynch him please
Bill Murray please.
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