On April 07 2013 02:13 yamato77 wrote: The correct analysis of the BM/Palmar situation is that BM is essentially alignment-null from his current posting, given that his spamminess and lack of explanation for his reads could come from scum or town, and only a real look into his meta could define the difference.
Palmar's analysis is a point against Palmar, because while he attempts to include meta, it is half-assed and not representative of both BM's town and scum games. Palmar lacks effort in this game, as I've said before, but it making a conscious effort to post SOMETHING, but the stuff he is posting is not meaningful at all. It only serves to give the appearance that he's active and interested, which I don't think town Palmar would even care to appear.
I hate when people piggyback my scumread but dont credit me. I HATE IT.
Palmar's comment on VE, even if VE is scum, is also no reason to think him town. It's a passing comment made that follows thread sentiment. In no way is Palmar taking that read of VE seriously.
On April 07 2013 02:13 yamato77 wrote: The correct analysis of the BM/Palmar situation is that BM is essentially alignment-null from his current posting, given that his spamminess and lack of explanation for his reads could come from scum or town, and only a real look into his meta could define the difference.
Palmar's analysis is a point against Palmar, because while he attempts to include meta, it is half-assed and not representative of both BM's town and scum games. Palmar lacks effort in this game, as I've said before, but it making a conscious effort to post SOMETHING, but the stuff he is posting is not meaningful at all. It only serves to give the appearance that he's active and interested, which I don't think town Palmar would even care to appear.
I hate when people piggyback my scumread but dont credit me. I HATE IT.
1) Stop spamming. You're capable of playing better than this, so do it.
Sn0_man - 1, 1? could theoretically also be 2 or 3 I guess, but no reason to disbelieve it. obviousone - 234? Raynpelikoneet - 5, 1 Sinani206 - 7, 2 Visceraeyes - 10, 10 Geript - something huge, 18, 12? can't remember strongandbig - 234? same first as caller Caller - 234? same first as snb, larger second restraining order - 6, 2 Meapak_ziphh - 6, 3+ artanis[xp] - 11 sharrant - 11 gonzaw - 8 Austinmcc - 8 Keirathi - 8 Palmar - 8 Mocsta - 8 Shelvocke - 8 Deconduo - 8 Vivax - 8, 1 Oatmaster - 8, 1 billmurray - either 8 or didn't send Yamato77 - not sent, tried 11
I didn't check yet if Rayn counted the numbers properly, but there's no way two scum both send in 8. So there's at max one scum among the 8 pickers. Not sure if someone is able to get away with claiming fake numbers, we can simply simulate what BC did.
So yeah, if you're town and didn't claim your numbers yet, do it. If you don't, you're on my to-lynch list.
On April 07 2013 02:13 yamato77 wrote: The correct analysis of the BM/Palmar situation is that BM is essentially alignment-null from his current posting, given that his spamminess and lack of explanation for his reads could come from scum or town, and only a real look into his meta could define the difference.
Palmar's analysis is a point against Palmar, because while he attempts to include meta, it is half-assed and not representative of both BM's town and scum games. Palmar lacks effort in this game, as I've said before, but it making a conscious effort to post SOMETHING, but the stuff he is posting is not meaningful at all. It only serves to give the appearance that he's active and interested, which I don't think town Palmar would even care to appear.
I hate when people piggyback my scumread but dont credit me. I HATE IT.
1) Stop spamming. You're capable of playing better than this, so do it.
2) I'm not reading your posts.
Yeah sure when you have sheeped 2 of my scum reads.
what do you think of palmar? or did you already give your opinion?
No comment on anything else that's been going on, except that the Palmar/VE thing might need to wait until D1 to gain more strength to be taken into account (people calling them scum that is).
Kurumi began the day as any Day as he always did. Fucking the harlot he kept in bed. It was only after that when the real work began. Donning his clothes he made his way through the streets of Atlantic City and began getting the payouts for Nucky. This day was not like his normal days though. He kept having the feeling he was being followed. Although he never saw a pursuer. If he had he would likely have never found himself facing down the wrong side of a barrel. It would be days before anyone found his body in the backstreet he had been left to rot in.
Bloodyc0bbler had a much more busy schedule. Booze didn't liberate itself from all the bootleggers in the country. BC knew it was only a matter of time til he was caught however. His driver had been picked up by someone. Likely Remus' men or Nucky's. Bloodyc0bbler had time to prepare for the men that would come for him. Sadly the preparations never factored in the cops were on the payroll of his victims. He was beaten to death but he never gave up who he worked for.
Day 1 has begun! Voting thread is going up now and the day will last til monday April 8th at 9pm est If someone has not been given a role pm from me please let me know
On April 06 2013 13:28 Mocsta wrote: What I find curious about the above, is when we start discussing Geript and you comment the below:
On April 06 2013 09:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I had you as weak town before our exchange, and the post you made questioned that read, so I questioned you. At first I thought it made you null again, but rereading it I realized that your wishy-washy post wouldn't make sense if Geript is scum, because he created an easy way for you to defend him which you denied. Since I believe Geript to be scum that makes you fairly town.
On April 06 2013 09:16 Mocsta wrote: Lol.. and if he is town.. what then?
On April 06 2013 09:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Then you'd be null again.
I find this interchange ironic, as you flip flop regarding my alignment much to the same manner Geript does.
This part of mocsta's case/post on artanis is straight up wrong, no?
Artanis identifies what his read was at multiple points, and WHY it changed. He does so vaguely, "the post you made," "your wishy-washy post," etc. but he still presents a read and how/why it changes over time. I don't see how "I think you're town, but you'd be null if this happened" is wishy-washy.
What are you trying to achieve with this post?
I wrote out an answer and then realized the real answer is "not much." Mostly marking it for later so I don't forget, and just bringing it up. I disagree with some of the reads being posted over the last day, but this bit of mocsta's post stuck out as being something that I disagreed with not just because I read someone differently, but because I think it's actively WRONG to paint Artanis's posts that way. At the time, was doing nothing more than pointing it out. I guess
There are several reasons, but primarily among them: time. I'm in a concurrently running game, and while generally that isn't much of a limiting factor, I'm also doing a lot of stuff IRL.
Now that this game has actually started though, I'm confident my filter will be more than adequate.
On April 07 2013 03:59 Oatsmaster wrote: And dont give 'the game hasnt started' It started when ALIGNMENTS were given out. NOT ROLES.
Geddit? Now its your turn.
But that's just it - because no one was ever in danger of dying, the game had NOT started in spite of everyone receiving their alignments. Without the fear of death, there is no pressure, and without pressure there is no scumhunting. It's just that simple.
On April 07 2013 03:59 Oatsmaster wrote: And dont give 'the game hasnt started' It started when ALIGNMENTS were given out. NOT ROLES.
Geddit? Now its your turn.
But that's just it - because no one was ever in danger of dying, the game had NOT started in spite of everyone receiving their alignments. Without the fear of death, there is no pressure, and without pressure there is no scumhunting. It's just that simple.