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On March 05 2013 16:00 00Visor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 15:52 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:50 00Visor wrote:On March 05 2013 15:45 Talack wrote:On March 05 2013 15:43 Bagration wrote:On March 05 2013 15:42 DidYuhim wrote:On March 05 2013 15:41 Geos13 wrote: They need to give a seed to Scarlett! Boo! No wildcards! You want to see her tears that bad? If Scarlett somehow manages a Code S seed, it would have definitely been a crazy year for her, going from NA unknown to Code S player within 12 months. There is a pretty big difference between GSL and MLG events in terms of difficulty, I think she would be annihilated just like every single foreigner so far No foreigner did win GSL so far, but many didnt get annihilated, especially Jinro, Idra, Huk, Naniwa and Stephano. Aren't those all the foreigners that have been in GSL? And can we please use recent results for a change, Jinro, Idra, Naniwa haven't been in GSL for months. HuK's ro8 days are long past. If someone claims "annihilated just like every single foreigner so far" we can`t only use recent results, no. Please follow the discussion. And they have been many more foreigners in GSL: Ret, Sase, Mana, Grubby, Haypro, Thorzain, ... LOL thank god they don't do seeds anymore. I suppose Stephano is the only one recently who actually deserved his seed, all the other foreigners dropped, with good reason.
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On March 05 2013 16:00 00Visor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 15:52 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:50 00Visor wrote:On March 05 2013 15:45 Talack wrote:On March 05 2013 15:43 Bagration wrote:On March 05 2013 15:42 DidYuhim wrote:On March 05 2013 15:41 Geos13 wrote: They need to give a seed to Scarlett! Boo! No wildcards! You want to see her tears that bad? If Scarlett somehow manages a Code S seed, it would have definitely been a crazy year for her, going from NA unknown to Code S player within 12 months. There is a pretty big difference between GSL and MLG events in terms of difficulty, I think she would be annihilated just like every single foreigner so far No foreigner did win GSL so far, but many didnt get annihilated, especially Jinro, Idra, Huk, Naniwa and Stephano. Aren't those all the foreigners that have been in GSL? And can we please use recent results for a change, Jinro, Idra, Naniwa haven't been in GSL for months. HuK's ro8 days are long past. If someone claims "annihilated just like every single foreigner so far" we can`t only use recent results, no. Please follow the discussion. And they have been many more foreigners in GSL: Ret, Sase, Mana, Grubby, Haypro, Thorzain, ...
Remember Torch and Artosis back in the open seasons?
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On March 05 2013 16:00 Havik_ wrote: HerOverrated.
He's one of the few protoss' I dislike.
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I view hero like I did anypro, pretty good, sometimes derpy, not really a champion.
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I think Avenge can climb that Code S spot - one more protoss
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Every time I see Hero play, I feel like he doesn't make a lot of mistakes but the only small mistakes he makes always cost him a lot. Except that he plays well but end up being beaten by lower level players because of one fucking detail. This is really annoying to watch.
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Everybody too busy arguing with each other to see Khaldor do crazy eye-movements at the very end of the broadcast. C'mon you guys...
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On March 05 2013 16:02 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:00 00Visor wrote:On March 05 2013 15:52 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:50 00Visor wrote:On March 05 2013 15:45 Talack wrote:On March 05 2013 15:43 Bagration wrote:On March 05 2013 15:42 DidYuhim wrote:On March 05 2013 15:41 Geos13 wrote: They need to give a seed to Scarlett! Boo! No wildcards! You want to see her tears that bad? If Scarlett somehow manages a Code S seed, it would have definitely been a crazy year for her, going from NA unknown to Code S player within 12 months. There is a pretty big difference between GSL and MLG events in terms of difficulty, I think she would be annihilated just like every single foreigner so far No foreigner did win GSL so far, but many didnt get annihilated, especially Jinro, Idra, Huk, Naniwa and Stephano. Aren't those all the foreigners that have been in GSL? And can we please use recent results for a change, Jinro, Idra, Naniwa haven't been in GSL for months. HuK's ro8 days are long past. If someone claims "annihilated just like every single foreigner so far" we can`t only use recent results, no. Please follow the discussion. And they have been many more foreigners in GSL: Ret, Sase, Mana, Grubby, Haypro, Thorzain, ... Remember Torch and Artosis back in the open seasons? Torch lost to SadZenith xD
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On March 05 2013 16:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:02 Bagration wrote:On March 05 2013 16:00 00Visor wrote:On March 05 2013 15:52 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:50 00Visor wrote:On March 05 2013 15:45 Talack wrote:On March 05 2013 15:43 Bagration wrote:On March 05 2013 15:42 DidYuhim wrote:On March 05 2013 15:41 Geos13 wrote: They need to give a seed to Scarlett! Boo! No wildcards! You want to see her tears that bad? If Scarlett somehow manages a Code S seed, it would have definitely been a crazy year for her, going from NA unknown to Code S player within 12 months. There is a pretty big difference between GSL and MLG events in terms of difficulty, I think she would be annihilated just like every single foreigner so far No foreigner did win GSL so far, but many didnt get annihilated, especially Jinro, Idra, Huk, Naniwa and Stephano. Aren't those all the foreigners that have been in GSL? And can we please use recent results for a change, Jinro, Idra, Naniwa haven't been in GSL for months. HuK's ro8 days are long past. If someone claims "annihilated just like every single foreigner so far" we can`t only use recent results, no. Please follow the discussion. And they have been many more foreigners in GSL: Ret, Sase, Mana, Grubby, Haypro, Thorzain, ... Remember Torch and Artosis back in the open seasons? Torch lost to SadZenith xD
Oh the nostalgia
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I really feel like this might be the end for HerO as a top player. He's been playing nothing but embarrassing games ever since his hot streak, and he's such an emotional player that I feel like he's rapidly spiraling into a place he can never return from.
You can say that HotS will be a new game, but it's not as if WoL is what's holding him back. His problem is psychological, he's not going to magically regain his confidence with the new expansion.
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Fantasy made it ;o unexpected
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On March 05 2013 16:03 bLecK wrote: Everybody too busy arguing with each other to see Khaldor do crazy eye-movements at the very end of the broadcast. C'mon you guys...
I really don't care if casters do funny stuff. I'm here for starcraft watching and starcraft discussion.
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opterown
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byun had better make it 4/4 prime tomorrow
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On March 05 2013 16:01 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:00 FeyFey wrote:On March 05 2013 15:55 Havik_ wrote:On March 05 2013 15:51 FeyFey wrote:On March 05 2013 15:45 Talack wrote:On March 05 2013 15:43 Bagration wrote:On March 05 2013 15:42 DidYuhim wrote:On March 05 2013 15:41 Geos13 wrote: They need to give a seed to Scarlett! Boo! No wildcards! You want to see her tears that bad? If Scarlett somehow manages a Code S seed, it would have definitely been a crazy year for her, going from NA unknown to Code S player within 12 months. There is a pretty big difference between GSL and MLG events in terms of difficulty, I think she would be annihilated just like every single foreigner so far Especially since she excels at broodlord and Infestor control and seems super high level in ZvZ. Those seems to be skills that are less useful with HotS, atleast at the start. ??? Lmao. Who doesn't? :p The Zergs loosing the free unit phase in ZvZ against her I would assume. Broodlord micro is beautiful, haven't you seen Stephano kiting with them yesterday ! Hope TL is training HotS like crazy and that they will be back in HotS. Will miss WoL, Siege tanks replaced in HotS by the Widow mine ... so will only see it in TvT or Midgame T.T Broodlord micro = pre-emptive splitting against HSM, vortex, and storms.
Viking micro = pre-emptive splitting against HSM (terran), storm (protoss), and fungal (zerg).
I love parallels, even if they're really badly drawn. Sure, you can easily argue off of this that terran has "so much more to do" vs zerg, but zerg is always more of a strategic race, especially when you look at zergs who are really meticulous with their engagements (DRG, stephano) versus those who don't. Just my thoughts at least.
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I just wanted to reiterate the post I made on the first page. I 100% cannot do Group D later tonight so I'd appreciate it if someone else made the thread and updated it. OP is premade HERE
It would be cool if someone could go ahead and make the thread now so we could get some discussion started
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On March 05 2013 16:02 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:00 00Visor wrote:On March 05 2013 15:52 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 15:50 00Visor wrote:On March 05 2013 15:45 Talack wrote:On March 05 2013 15:43 Bagration wrote:On March 05 2013 15:42 DidYuhim wrote:On March 05 2013 15:41 Geos13 wrote: They need to give a seed to Scarlett! Boo! No wildcards! You want to see her tears that bad? If Scarlett somehow manages a Code S seed, it would have definitely been a crazy year for her, going from NA unknown to Code S player within 12 months. There is a pretty big difference between GSL and MLG events in terms of difficulty, I think she would be annihilated just like every single foreigner so far No foreigner did win GSL so far, but many didnt get annihilated, especially Jinro, Idra, Huk, Naniwa and Stephano. Aren't those all the foreigners that have been in GSL? And can we please use recent results for a change, Jinro, Idra, Naniwa haven't been in GSL for months. HuK's ro8 days are long past. If someone claims "annihilated just like every single foreigner so far" we can`t only use recent results, no. Please follow the discussion. And they have been many more foreigners in GSL: Ret, Sase, Mana, Grubby, Haypro, Thorzain, ... LOL thank god they don't do seeds anymore. I suppose Stephano is the only one recently who actually deserved his seed, all the other foreigners dropped, with good reason.
Eh, Naniwa got Ro8 twice.
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On March 05 2013 16:03 Cel.erity wrote: I really feel like this might be the end for HerO as a top player. He's been playing nothing but embarrassing games ever since his hot streak, and he's such an emotional player that I feel like he's rapidly spiraling into a place he can never return from.
You can say that HotS will be a new game, but it's not as if WoL is what's holding him back. His problem is psychological, he's not going to magically regain his confidence with the new expansion.
I doubt it. Being on Liquid means that he'll be attending plenty of tournaments, and he's bound to get a decent result sometime, considering that most Kespa players won't leave Korea ever except for maybe MLG, and most Korean teams can't afford to send players abroad that often.
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On March 05 2013 13:22 KillerDucky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 13:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:On March 05 2013 13:16 KillerDucky wrote:+ Show Spoiler + 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th -------------------------------------------------------------- Maru 26.86% 22.05% 19.99% 17.96% 13.14% HerO 25.22% 21.91% 20.36% 18.46% 14.05% NesTea 19.42% 19.99% 20.30% 20.25% 20.04% KeeN 18.84% 20.32% 21.06% 20.70% 19.08% FanTaSy 9.66% 15.72% 18.30% 22.63% 33.69% Estimated by Aligulac. Make another. Fantasy too quick! might as well start with this one 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th -------------------------------------------------------------- Maru 27.75% 21.66% 19.28% 17.56% 13.74% HerO 25.57% 21.93% 20.01% 18.14% 14.35% NesTea 20.07% 19.63% 19.85% 19.93% 20.53% FanTaSy 19.77% 24.92% 24.15% 19.95% 11.22% KeeN 6.84% 11.86% 16.71% 24.43% 40.16% Estimated by Aligulac. Make another. Hm Aligulac should somehow show if the prediction has some results included in it already... scribbles
By the way, it's hard for me to dig up feature requests that are posted in arbitrary threads. Better would be to put it here.
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nice to know that if you lose a couple games, people are allowed to shit all over your play, your character, your career and past accomplishments.
it's a good thing that koreans can't read what foreigners have to say.
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On March 05 2013 16:04 Alryk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 16:01 Whatson wrote:On March 05 2013 16:00 FeyFey wrote:On March 05 2013 15:55 Havik_ wrote:On March 05 2013 15:51 FeyFey wrote:On March 05 2013 15:45 Talack wrote:On March 05 2013 15:43 Bagration wrote:On March 05 2013 15:42 DidYuhim wrote:On March 05 2013 15:41 Geos13 wrote: They need to give a seed to Scarlett! Boo! No wildcards! You want to see her tears that bad? If Scarlett somehow manages a Code S seed, it would have definitely been a crazy year for her, going from NA unknown to Code S player within 12 months. There is a pretty big difference between GSL and MLG events in terms of difficulty, I think she would be annihilated just like every single foreigner so far Especially since she excels at broodlord and Infestor control and seems super high level in ZvZ. Those seems to be skills that are less useful with HotS, atleast at the start. ??? Lmao. Who doesn't? :p The Zergs loosing the free unit phase in ZvZ against her I would assume. Broodlord micro is beautiful, haven't you seen Stephano kiting with them yesterday ! Hope TL is training HotS like crazy and that they will be back in HotS. Will miss WoL, Siege tanks replaced in HotS by the Widow mine ... so will only see it in TvT or Midgame T.T Broodlord micro = pre-emptive splitting against HSM, vortex, and storms. Viking micro = pre-emptive splitting against HSM (terran), storm (protoss), and fungal (zerg). I love parallels, even if they're really badly drawn. Sure, you can easily argue off of this that terran has "so much more to do" vs zerg, but zerg is always more of a strategic race, especially when you look at zergs who are really meticulous with their engagements (DRG, stephano) versus those who don't. Just my thoughts at least. You can't micro Vikings unless you're pulling them back from stalkers or trying to kiting against Battlecruisers (like 1 in a 100 TvTs get that far..), same as a BL. I think its laughable to say that there's such thing as BL micro when all you do is pre-split, the same way I find it funny when people try to say "viking micro"
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