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geript
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geript
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WoS extended: WoS claims to have a strong scum read on glurio at two different points... still refuses to vote for him. Thinks there's a 50/50 shot of hitting scum between Glurio/Sevryn. Votes for neither and instead goes for a 25% chance. Claims to have strong reads on Sevryn being scum. Admits his scum reads haven't changed since earlier. Admits that his scum reads were not strong and would likely have been destroyed. Additionally, he tries to associate himself with Mocsta to gain town cred So far as I see it, WoS does not want to take credit for any negative actions. Not willing to risk having attention drawn to him. Wants to associate with positively viewed actions. Sorry, I have to be heading to work and can't quote it as I'd like. I'll expound on this more later if I can. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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geript
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Sevryn
698 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
Sylencia My biggest grievance that Sylencia felt "under pressure" with one vote. Whether that pressure stemmed from being categorized as a lurker by some or if it was the vote itself is not eminently clear. This somehow triggered a survival mechanism within: On February 13 2013 09:35 Sylencia wrote: No it will not, but as much as I would want to vote him - I might end up having to vote for my survival, since warbaby will not be gathering any votes. I'd like an explanation as to how Sylencia felt pressured enough to consider survival voting (unless I am completely missing something, which is possible considering the time I have left to get this in) with only 1 vote on him/her. Sylencia also claimed to have gone through several filters, but never gave any information regarding which ones, nor any conclusions based on that reading. I'd expect at least something would trigger asking a question, but Sylencia seemed content to tunnel WB. I also noted that the VOTE for WB came extremely late compared to the case. Tunneling is there, conviction in words is there, but the vote was delayed? Was the vote delayed out of convenience, accidental omission, or is the whole "survival" thing tied into this, or was it withheld to wait for a potential easy bandwagon? Connecting the dots here leads me to believe this survival instinct is not town motivated. On February 12 2013 13:20 Sylencia wrote: My only posts have really been against warbaby - thought it was assumed <.< I literally wrote "Uh oh" in my notes. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
Mocsta N1: Last Will Firstly, the item below needs to be cleared, as several have raised it. "I am concerned about Mocsta drop in 'usual activity'" (1) I am playing two on-going games; the other game started a few days before this and Lynch deadlines are the same days. That game takes priority over this one. (2) I could only join this game because the experience limit was lifted; I don't think it is fair for me to try to mayor discussion. I got called out for it early on -rightfully (sorry, its a habit  so am now trying to active lurk, and throw in my feedback when I see stuff I find suspicious; instead of lead discussion.To the real stuff: People I would spend time listening to Day2: + Show Spoiler [ObviousOne] + I like the way he has entered the game, and shared his posts. Liking the way a guy posts is not town indicative though, so, we really need ObviousOne to step up and pressure a scum read; to gain understanding of alignment. Remember, a case says more about the MAKER, than the target. + Show Spoiler [zarepath] + I am so conflicted with this guy. In my opinion, his "fake case" actually unsettled town and is responsible for creating this split vote outcome. I am still trying to piece together whether the outcome was simply not thought through enough (town); OR intentional (scum). My concern is that, zarepath did not deliver the thorough analysis of this "experiment" like promised - at least I dont recall reading it. I also noticed at the end of Night 1, zarepath shared some reads; but these are based on the thread dynamics, not his experiment (conveniently....) I think zarepath needs to provide *VERY* clear reasoning behind his actions this Day2. If needs be; pressure him for this. Remember, the experiment itself is NULL. It comes down to WHAT he does with the information. People I would spend time pressuring Day2: + Show Spoiler [Testsubject (2nd new guy)] + Give him 24hrs to read the 40 pages; by then, he better have a scum read, otherwise it might be pertinent to discuss a policy lynch. + Show Spoiler [warbaby] + I re-read his filter; and this guy just flip flops constantly and tries to join whatever bandwagon he can. He is also constantly referencing old-games; either himself as town, or me as scum. I judge people by their actions in-game; he seems to be avoiding this, as when he even admits 'he doesnt have strong opinions" middle of Day1, and what has been shared since then, seems to be the same.He is still one of my strongest scum reads + Show Spoiler [Mandalor] + This guy has not done much all game, other than offer excuse after excuse. I have not seen anything that I interpret as town aligned; so he is null for me. That is the problem; I would expect by Day2, people have offered enough to be towny, or scummy. Why is he in the middle? This guy needs to be put in the interrogation room, like NOW! + Show Spoiler [Geript] + Need I say more? This guy has shown glimmers of trying to figure out the game, and then does the oddest shit from that. - Put a defense on warbaby by attacking me (The case was refuted easily) - Gives a non-chalant response towards the mislynch. - The case of Corazon reads as if there is no conviction. Which is surprising; why make the case if you do not believe in it? Surely this isnt another Glurio trying to claim a "zarepath" experiment. - Another weird thing with Geript is his opening vote on warbaby; as an "experiment" yet when I come after warbaby, he jumps straight in to be warbaby knight in shining armour People I think need to step up Day2: + Show Spoiler [WaveofShadow] + I have not been focusing on this guy for a couple reasons (1) Been concentrating on people like warbaby/Geript (2) I credited him as "bad townie" prior, so never felt a need to prioritize him Thing is, every time I read something from this guy, I just get an odd vibe. Haven't put in enough time to decipher where this feeling derives from though. I am going to treat him as "null" for Day2, and see how it goes from there. | ||
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
It was at the point where I had 2 votes (and somehow 2 votes was enough to have me up for lynching) where I was mentioning having to survival vote. I already explained it before why I felt that survival voting was possibly necessary for me. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On February 14 2013 09:51 Sylencia wrote: ObviousOne: It was at the point where I had 2 votes (and somehow 2 votes was enough to have me up for lynching) where I was mentioning having to survival vote. I already explained it before why I felt that survival voting was possibly necessary for me. I might have missed the second vote since I was using Count Votes, but the intent to self-preserve is there and a common scum tactic when up for lynch. You don't vote to preserve, you hunt scum. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
On February 14 2013 09:52 ObviousOne wrote: OMG Mocsta <3 for being first in your list. I hope my last post was helpful in regard to your note about me. I didnt accuse you of anything. Your listed under People need to give you a chance to speak (i.e. listen to) I dont think pressuring you this early is going determine your alignment. The other new guy is listed under "pressure" because he is yet to post. and we cant let him fly by Day2, being under the radar. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On February 13 2013 09:29 Dandel Ion wrote: ![[image loading]](https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/2752616335/4b3ae0f60a4556ba1b2b4088d779492b_normal.jpeg) Count Vote:glurio (3): Sevryn, Mocsta, cDgCorazon Sylencia (2): warbaby, Mandalor WaveofShadow (1): geript Macheji (1): WaveofShadow Sevryn (1): Sn0_Man Mandalor (1): zarepath Not Voting (4): 9-BiT, Macheji, glurio, Sylencia Currently, glurio is set to be lynched! ~half an hour remaining until deadline. Remember you have to vote! I admit you are correct on the point of having 2 votes. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On February 14 2013 09:56 Mocsta wrote: I didnt accuse you of anything. Your listed under People need to give you a chance to speak (i.e. listen to) I dont think pressuring you this early is going determine your alignment. The other new guy is listed under "pressure" because he is yet to post. and we cant let him fly by Day2, being under the radar. I didn't say you had accused me of anything, I just love me some attention in this game. I'm glad you are enjoying my posts, I agree that enjoying posts it not alignment indicative, at least it's fun to read. We can effectively communicate, which is always a plus. | ||
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TestSubject893
United States774 Posts
 ) I'm putting together a post with my overall thoughts now. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17713 Posts
Day 2 The night was subdued. Even Statler and Waldorf were a bit shaken by the gruesome sight of Animal succumbing to a Rickroll. Most people drooped off to bed, but not Fozzie and Rowlf. Their only purpose in life was to bring a bit of cheer to people's lives, through their jokes and their music and so, to give everybody a good start the next day, they headed to the stage to practice some of the golden oldies. Someone replaced the apple with a grenade. geript as Fozzie Bear (Vanilla Townie) was blown up by a live grenade. WaveofShadow as Rowlf the Dog (Vanilla Townie) was blown up by a live grenade. + Show Spoiler [role pms] + You are Fozzie Bear (Vanilla Townie). Unfortunately, this is no time for comedy. The evildoers who caused this terrible tragedy must be put to justice. You have your voice and your vote to see the law put to work. Use them well. You win with town. You are Rowlf the Dog (Vanilla Townie). Normally you would turn to your piano for solace, but... well... it was left behind. You must help your fellow muppets get out of this, and you can use your voice and your vote for this. Use them well. You win with town. It is now day 2! You have 48 hours to vote, until [unparsable timestamp format] on Friday to do so. Voting is mandatory | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
2 KILLS? who is vig? | ||
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Mocsta
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
On February 14 2013 09:56 ObviousOne wrote: Okay, I failed at reading Dandel's filter. It was up a page from where I was looking: I admit you are correct on the point of having 2 votes. There were 3 vote counts where I had 2 votes, 2 of them where I was set to be lynched. You are correct in that the goal of town is to scum hunt and not survival, but you don't really have a choice if it's either you or someone else who is going to die. I know I'm town, I don't know what he is, in this case it isn't about scum hunting for me but town number preservation. Of course there are times when you can take a bullet to prove people voting for you are suspicious but with 2-3 votes on the lynch target it doesn't give much information whatsoever. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
If there is a vig out there; you better have breadcrumbs. proper vig play, is to say who you are killing in the last minute before deadline (in this case you had 1 hr) Newbie games always 1-shot vig; so if present, you are now VT; its safe to speak up | ||
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