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On February 14 2013 04:10 zarepath wrote:Zarepath's Readsby Zarepath9-Bit + Show Spoiler +
Nothing to see. Looking forward to a modkill or replacement.
Sevryn + Show Spoiler +
I had a null read on him at the lynch -- he jumped on my fake case, added a little to it, tunneled glurio. But post-flip, he went very proactively defensive for it, saying that everybody was too focused on glurio/himself as the dichotomy. But HE was focused on glurio. Now that glurio's flipped, I want to see what his reads are on EVERYONE. If he was so certain about glurio, who does he think is scum now?
Slight scum read on Sevryn.
WaveofShadow + Show Spoiler +
I see him as being mostly proactive with a variety of reads. I don't understand what his big controversial post quoting Mocsta and Sn0_Man was about, other than the fact they wanted to go after lurkers and their plan failed. I read him as genuinely trying to help town.
Sn0_Man + Show Spoiler +
His filter's filled with a lot of theory, policy, and meta talk. He interacts directly with a lot of other posters, and is very active. But towards the end of Day 1, he was practically begging other people to make cases he could bandwagon onto, finally settling on Sevryn. He is active enough that I don't consider him scummy, but trudging through his filter doesn't make me think he's absolutely pro-town. Leaning town, but not as sure as I used to be.
ObviousOne + Show Spoiler +
His assessment of Day 1 was pretty useful. I agree with Mocsta that we need to see his reads. Null, slightly to town based on his opening, but only slightly.
Warbaby + Show Spoiler +
Starts with general policy talk, his third post is a list, needlessly antagonistic to WoS, bunch of meta, insults everybody's mafia skills, tells people to mislynch him, prefers voting lurkers over scum, constantly asserts that he has no idea who the scum are, his final top 3 are sylencia, sevryn, then glurio. Is now focused on sevryn. I don't think he's as scummy as I've thought of him now that I've read thorugh the whole filter; I have a null read on him now, depending on how his case on Sevryn develops.
geript + Show Spoiler +
Geript was one of the only ones who really dug into my fake WoS case. He bought it, but only after he went through it and actually criticized a few of the points. He now has a case on Corazon that is at least original, and it's labeled Case 1, suggesting he has another case coming. I read him as leaning town.
Mocsta + Show Spoiler +
Super active first half of Day 1, went to "actively lurking" since after pouting about knowing when he's not wanted, and has done a lot of things that I see as pro-town -- encouraging two names so we can have clear bandwagons, picking apart bad logic, etc. I read him as town. The only other thing I'll note is that it's odd how little he's contributed (although he still has tons of filter). I think he's legit going for a different strat, but will keep an eye on him, obviously.
Corazon + Show Spoiler +
His Day 1 seemed pretty typical of his town meta, but he really pushed on his WB vote but didn't actively try to persuade anyone else; he just kept re-quoting his case, and then when the lynch was getting confusing, instead of asking for consolidation onto his TOP READ that he's had all day, instead he bandwagons onto Glurio. It's hard to judge any voting motivations from the Day 1 lynch, but this is suspicious to me. He gave a pretty town response to my WoS case, though. Null, leaning town.
Mandalor + Show Spoiler +
Mandalor's filter looks very scummy. Every other post is a list, the main thrust of his case on Sylencia has to do with blue talk, and the case for his final vote is not compelling at all. He just drops a random vote and checks out, doesn't even wish town luck. (To be fair, I did something similar because of time and RL constraints.) People's reactions to my vote on Mandalor were that they had town reads on him, but I'd like to ask you all what specifically makes him look town to you, because I don't see much. Reads SCUM
Sylencia + Show Spoiler +Pretty vocal opponent of RNG there at the beginning, then his activity fades from there. He speculates HARD on warbaby's possible blue roles, not necessarily a very pro-town thing to do in public on Day 1, and that is the biggest contribution he made at all. He said he hadn't read very many filters, admitted to tunneling warbaby, then voted for him. In the end, he posted this gem: On February 13 2013 09:54 Sylencia wrote:
.. What lol, I gave my reasons before and I'm voting for him to consolidate my thoughts on him. I will have to change my vote to glurio if required to stay alive though. Town don't change their votes in order to stay alive; town believe in their scum reads or are willing to work with other people's scum reads. THey certianly don't do so just to stay alive; lynching scum is more important than a town's individual life. This quote makes it sound as though his number one concern is not being lynched. It's worth going through all the filters, apparently, because this was the last post in the final filter, and I think it's the biggest, latest scum tell. In conclusion, people I think are suspicious and would like other's thoughts on: Sevryn Warbaby Mandalor Sylencia Obv and 9-Bit's replacement also deserve scrutiny. But right now my two biggest reads are Sylencia and Mandalor. I think people should look at my brief reads on them, read their filters, and I want to hear your own conclusions.
Could I interest you in a Sylencia lynch tomorrow based on your assessment of Warbaby vs Sylencia and the self-preservation vote?
You've interested me in looking deeper into Mandalor with this list, I'll be on that later.
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I'd be all ears to another Sylencia case. I'd probably end up voting for him unless he pulls some good town play out of his butt, but there's really no substance to his filter and I still can't see where the town motivation for that quote is.
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On February 14 2013 04:32 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 04:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
If there are 2 clear wagons, one on confirmed town and one on a null read, you get on the null read one to save the confirmed town.
That is why Syl would change his vote to save himself. @ Sn0_man I would have to go back through filters (currently re-reading the game backwards as I believe I just mentioned before) to check this. It's hard to judge whether or not "saving yourself" is scummy, but the best indicator to me is: did Syl have a read on Glurio before Syl was on deck to be lynched? Was there any mention of Glurio's alignment from Syl at any time? If it was town, I'll be very concerned.
No, Syl merely talked about then voted warbaby. His filter is quite short.
I still think that self preservation is a completely null point. If I could lynch every other player on the spot and save myself, I'd do it in a heartbeat. VICTORY (for all alignments).
Again, given the choice between confirmed town and ANYTHING ELSE, you lynch the else. Even if you have a town read on somebody, unless you are sure that they will help town more you lynch them not you.
All that said, I'm also fairly open to a Syl lynch (I believe I mentioned this before the first lynch). I have mild reservations but less for him than for most other players.
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On February 13 2013 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote:Well fuck, I would have been right. I'll post it now, up to you guys whether you want to believe me or not. + Show Spoiler +Thank you Mocsta and Sn0 for not making me explain this action myself: [b]##Unvote: Macheji ##Vote: Sevryn On February 13 2013 08:27 Mocsta wrote:
Mr Sno_Man;
i said this at the start of the game (I think).. and I
think now is an opportune time to say it again.
Policy Lynch is never meant to occur (even town lying can
be acceptable at times - e.g. "Are you JK".. Why of course
not.. (lie)
Lynch all Lurkers is a concept designed to promote
discussion and force activity. It is never meant to be
followed through with. Think about the consequence.
On February 13 2013 04:57 Sn0_Man wrote:
Why are you voting for a 1/4 chance when you could vote
for a 1/2 chance (glurio/sevyrn)? Plus, I'm of the
opinion that it should be fairly easy to lynch one of
glurio/sevyrn if you make a realistic case.
I can't honestly tell which of the two is scummier. If I'm wrong, risk taken and you can all decide what it means after the fact.
Town is fearless. Share your reads when you have them. Your win-con is TOWN win, not YOU survive. Anything you say can and (will) probably be used against you and it's towns job to see who erroneously uses it against you. Just look at the Warbaby fiasco. Somewhere in that mess is going to be at least one decent scum read.
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Fair points, Sn0, but I don't see why he's proactively saying it.
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On February 14 2013 04:43 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote:Well fuck, I would have been right. I'll post it now, up to you guys whether you want to believe me or not. + Show Spoiler +Thank you Mocsta and Sn0 for not making me explain this action myself: [b]##Unvote: Macheji ##Vote: Sevryn On February 13 2013 08:27 Mocsta wrote:
Mr Sno_Man;
i said this at the start of the game (I think).. and I
think now is an opportune time to say it again.
Policy Lynch is never meant to occur (even town lying can
be acceptable at times - e.g. "Are you JK".. Why of course
not.. (lie)
Lynch all Lurkers is a concept designed to promote
discussion and force activity. It is never meant to be
followed through with. Think about the consequence.
On February 13 2013 04:57 Sn0_Man wrote:
Why are you voting for a 1/4 chance when you could vote
for a 1/2 chance (glurio/sevyrn)? Plus, I'm of the
opinion that it should be fairly easy to lynch one of
glurio/sevyrn if you make a realistic case.
I can't honestly tell which of the two is scummier. If I'm wrong, risk taken and you can all decide what it means after the fact. Town is fearless. Share your reads when you have them. Your win-con is TOWN win, not YOU survive. Anything you say can and (will) probably be used against you and it's towns job to see who erroneously uses it against you. Just look at the Warbaby fiasco. Somewhere in that mess is going to be at least one decent scum read.
A valid point. My problem is neither my reads on glurio or Sevryn at the time were particularly strong and probably easily picked apart by someone better at the game than me.
I know I've been super inactive N1, but it's gonna have to stay that way probably until the N1 action happens as I still have a lot to do today. I will be back in full force on D2.
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On February 14 2013 04:43 zarepath wrote:
Fair points, Sn0, but I don't see why he's proactively saying it.
Clarify please. Who is 'he'?
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Oh and for the record it may seem like I'm tunneling Sevryn for now due to my read, but I'm not going to be so obstinate as I was yesterday so if sufficient evidence is brought up and I feel more strongly about Sylencia/Mandalor (which seems to be where the wagon is heading these days) I could get on that.
I think I have to really look into a lot of filters before I come back, and come back with something strong.
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On February 14 2013 04:52 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 04:43 zarepath wrote:
Fair points, Sn0, but I don't see why he's proactively saying it. Clarify please. Who is 'he'?
This is in reference to Syl saying that he would switch his vote to glurio if he has to in order to save himself... but not while he's under any real pressure.
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On February 14 2013 04:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
A valid point. My problem is neither my reads on glurio or Sevryn at the time were particularly strong and probably easily picked apart by someone better at the game than me.
I know I've been super inactive N1, but it's gonna have to stay that way probably until the N1 action happens as I still have a lot to do today. I will be back in full force on D2.
N1 this game has been very inactive in general. I'm fairly sure this is a direct result of the TERRIBLE vote/lynch that we did yesterday. That certainly isn't the thing that makes you look bad to me...
@OO: Yeah we were discussing Syl
@Zare: I felt like Syl was under non-negligible pressure, although admittedly there weren't a ton of votes on him.
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Okay, I'm going to go look at the votes for when Syl said that. I was assuming it was 1 or zero votes, but let me check.
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Seriously though Wave, throwing away your vote is SCUM MOTIVATED. Posting a vote based on a read, no matter how weak, that you think MAY benefit town is crucial. Heck, what you did is SO BAD I don't think scum would do it because of how bad it looks. Thats heavy WIFOM but... that vote was AWFUL.
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Okay, so Syl had 2 votes on him and was set to be lynched when he said that. My point is worth completely ignoring now, LOL. Sorry about that.
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TestSubject893 is replacing 9-bit
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It almost sounds like the mods constructed a specimen made of the parts of fallen mafia vets, designed and and brought back to life with a single purpose of winning this game of mafia.
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Hey guys. As you know I'm replacing 9-bit.
As it turns out I was somewhat of a last resort as a replacement and am actually pretty busy today with work. I should be able to catch up on the thread later tonight, hopefully by a little before the time night 1 is ending, and as such don't expect to be active in the thread until about then.
I look forward to playing once I get caught up. GLHF everyone~
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On February 14 2013 05:13 zarepath wrote:
It almost sounds like the mods constructed a specimen made of the parts of fallen mafia vets, designed and and brought back to life with a single purpose of winning this game of mafia.
Haha, yeah. Let's go with that.
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On February 14 2013 05:17 TestSubject893 wrote:
Hey guys. As you know I'm replacing 9-bit.
As it turns out I was somewhat of a last resort as a replacement and am actually pretty busy today with work. I should be able to catch up on the thread later tonight, hopefully by a little before the time night 1 is ending, and as such don't expect to be active in the thread until about then.
I look forward to playing once I get caught up. GLHF everyone~
GLHF. Get back to us when you can, and thanks for subbing 
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Okay I'm back and debating with myself whether to /out. I'm working very very late hours right now which I absolutely didn't expect. I've managed to catch up with the thread, but that's about it. I don't have the time to make a compelling case right now and I'm not even sure if I could.
I still think my vote for Sylencia made sense. I knew I couldn't get you on board since I wasn't here for deadline and was/am under scrutiny anyway, but I was against voting anyone other than my top scumread. It would really help if town votes a little earlier and doesn't wait till the last minute. That gives people time to explain themselves and us to consolidate.
Lastly, I would like to adress zarepath's analysis of me.
On February 14 2013 04:10 zarepath wrote:Zarepath's Readsby ZarepathMandalor + Show Spoiler +
Mandalor's filter looks very scummy. Every other post is a list, the main thrust of his case on Sylencia has to do with blue talk, and the case for his final vote is not compelling at all. He just drops a random vote and checks out, doesn't even wish town luck. (To be fair, I did something similar because of time and RL constraints.) People's reactions to my vote on Mandalor were that they had town reads on him, but I'd like to ask you all what specifically makes him look town to you, because I don't see much. Reads SCUM
I invite anyone to look at my filter and then look at this sentence. I made one list that I was asked for. If anything, zarepath's filter is a ton more list-heavy than mine. Make of that what you want.
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Why I voted for Glurio
I've justified this vote in a few posts, but since it's obvious none of you are interested in reading my filter, here I go.
First of all, the point has been raised that I didn't follow through on this quote:
On February 12 2013 14:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
I want to try something different this game. If we keep LAL-ing we're not going to find scum. We haven't found scum D1 in a long time, so perhaps we should take a look at how we evaluate D1 in order to have a better chance of lynching scum (which would put them at a huge disadvantage if we could get one). We're never going to get better at Mafia unless we analyze what we are doing wrong and trying to make an effort to fix it. We can't just keep sitting here and say "Ok, we're gonna LAL. Cross your fingers everyone". I've said this before, but we need to have faith in our ability to find scum. I'm putting my confidence in scum-hunting into this vote. I think you should too (with whoever you think is scum).
And this one:
On February 13 2013 08:50 cDgCorazon wrote:
If we're going to keep thinking that all "loud voices" are town, at least one scum is going to slip by for a long time.
Take a look at my scum play from NMM XXXIII. Why do you think I got away with being scum for so long? Because I was active and looking pro-town.
If we take out a scum with a "loud voice" now, our chances of winning go way up.
Anyone who says this should also have looked at this quote:
On February 12 2013 15:23 cDgCorazon wrote:
One thing that I want to add to my paragraph: If the town decides to reinvent it's play, the scum have to adjust to it. This could be a good way to catch scum (in theory), as the changes they would have to make would be a lot easier to screw up than the town's changes. That's only true if all of the town players buy in to reinventing their game, which is hard to do.
Take notice of the bolded part. Me making this change to actually take out scum reads D1 would only work if the whole town bought into the change. This did not happen. Everyone continued to try to get lurkers to talk and to make arguments against 5-6 players (which isn't the best idea in the closing hours before the lynch as we needed to consolidate). I pointed this out in a few posts why I did not vote for WB:
On February 13 2013 08:19 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 08:12 cDgCorazon wrote:On February 12 2013 14:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
Alright, since it's obvious no one is going to look at my filter, here are the reasons that I've already stated why I think WB is scum:
-Claiming town way too hard
-Playing victim from XXXVI
-No actual scumhunting
-Asking Mocsta to stop pressuring him
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-Sheeping on everything that comes his way
-Hiding in the shadows after the pressure died down on him
-Saying we should vote for Sylencia because he's lurking and playing similar to the game he played scum in
(when in fact Glurio has exhibited the same behavior and multiple people have been lurking)
Everything in bold, I feel like he has continued to exhibit the behavior or has not adequately answered. Everything below the line is in my second case
Warbaby. These are the reasons I'm voting for you. You're not reading my filter. You're not taking the time to give me full answers, just OMGUSing and making emotional responses. There are others who post less who have also contributed no actual scumhunting The "why don't we both stop posting for a bit" post seems quite reasonable to me. The thread was being clouded with a ton of irrelevant yammer. The fact that warbaby has echoed others is lamentable but not unique. Sometimes you agree with a case that is presented. The fact that he wishes to vote for Sylencia is also not unreasonable. In fact, it could be construed as scumhunting. It isn't like Sylencia is a WORSE target than many other lurkers. None of what I say makes any claim to "prove" WB as town, but it gives reasonable doubt to his scumminess (IMO). As such, I still request that we lynch somebody with extremely low post-count and contributions. I feel like you are tunnelling really hard for no reason cora. I'm still willing to look at a WB lynch for sure, BUT NOT TODAY.
On February 13 2013 08:57 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 08:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 13 2013 08:50 cDgCorazon wrote:On February 13 2013 08:47 geript wrote:
Point out what you'd like. I haven't made a case against many people; neither, iirc, have I weighed in on 0 post non-participant vs low count lurker. Those facts are hardly relevant.
I'd point out that no one has really made a case against you at all. As far as I see it, your agenda has been to make the town atmosphere negative. Yes, it takes two to get into a flame war and I'm not giving war baby any credit avoiding those spats either. In the least Mocsta has shown that he's willing to listen, even though I think his vote for me is weak at best. You on the other hand have tunnel visioned on your target of the moment at each point. Scum hunting is fine and being aggressive is fine. But the belligerent tone you've taken at many points, especially over exceptionally minor things, isn't beneficial to the town. Rather, it seems to me like you want everyone to spend their time scrutinizing your target so that they avoid you entirely. Your "We haven't gotten scum day 1 lynching lurkers, so lets try a new tack" comment from a while back (would quote but still on phone) keeps on sounding like "Let's lynch a loud voice" to me. In my experience the louder voices are almost always town; I even think one of the guides says something similar.
Now you're going to ask why I'm not voting for you (likely), but I still think that you're misguided right now and not an active dissident. So my vote remains in place for right now. Please explain to me why being aggressive is scummy. If we're going to keep thinking that all "loud voices" are town, at least one scum is going to slip by for a long time. Take a look at my scum play from NMM XXXIII. Why do you think I got away with being scum for so long? Because I was active and looking pro-town. If we take out a scum with a "loud voice" now, our chances of winning go way up. Speaking of loud voices, you were SO adamant for so long on WB lynch now that's it's close to lynch time you unvote? What is your rationale? Cause it's obvious no one is going to vote with me. Sometimes, one's agenda needs to be pushed back to benefit the group as a whole. I didn't back down before because I wasn't sure how the votes were going to be consolidated. Since it's obvious town does not want to try something different for D1, it looks like it's not going to be WB.
On February 13 2013 09:51 cDgCorazon wrote:
Glurio, I've outlined my reasons why I'm not voting for WB, but still think he's scum.
I would love to see WB get lynched today, but I know it's not going to happen. I have to choose between little things like your OMGUS vote and the fact that I'm not going to make the same vote as my top scumread...
I felt like Sn0 made great points and the fact that he said he was open to voting for WB later made me feel secure that I wasn't going to lose all of the traction in my case due to new developments happening. That's why I switched onto Glurio. But why Glurio? I made a few explanations:
On February 13 2013 09:03 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 08:58 Mocsta wrote:On February 13 2013 08:50 cDgCorazon wrote:
Take a look at my scum play from NMM XXXIII. Why do you think I got away with being scum for so long? Because I was active and looking pro-town. Disagree. You got HEAPZ of town cred because Spag was mislynched sticking up for you. Made everyone auto-assume you were town. You maintained the town cred by being involved in discussion; but IIRC you didnt step on toes or push your own agenda =>> active blendy Alright we can talk about this later. Anyways, my vote is for _______. They haven't done much scumhunting, they've lurked for most of the game, and as the evidence shows, there's always a lurker scum. Who I'm filling in the blank with is still up in the air. I'm looking at either Glurio, Mandalor, or Geript.
On February 13 2013 09:23 cDgCorazon wrote:
@WoS Why in the world are you bringing this up now?
It's a hard decision for me to make (because there is nothing to choose from between the two). I'm guessing Mandalor's vote is just him not thinking.
Lynching Glurio would go a long way in either proving or disproving my case towards WB. His town claim is even stupider than WB's as well. There's not much else to say.
##Vote: Glurio
On February 13 2013 09:46 cDgCorazon wrote:
I'm not going to vote for Syl because I think WB is scum and he has been trying to get us to lynch Syl for at least 12 hours. It wouldn't make sense for me to vote for my top scumread's scum read (Mandalor would you like to exhibit this logic as well?).
On February 13 2013 09:48 cDgCorazon wrote:OMGUS.
On February 13 2013 09:51 cDgCorazon wrote:
Glurio, I've outlined my reasons why I'm not voting for WB, but still think he's scum.
I would love to see WB get lynched today, but I know it's not going to happen. I have to choose between little things like your OMGUS vote and the fact that I'm not going to make the same vote as my top scumread...
On February 13 2013 10:18 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 10:14 warbaby wrote:On February 13 2013 10:09 Mocsta wrote:On February 13 2013 10:07 warbaby wrote:On February 13 2013 10:03 Mocsta wrote:
Look, we need a game plan moving forward; this obviously wasnt ideal
can i suggest we stop talking about blues
(im looking at you sn0)... with NK this cycle; lets not help out the scum pls
warbaby
you were the only person dead set against glurio (that commented)
Can you please give more reason than meta to why you thuoght he was town; you said my reasoning was sound, yet you refused to jump on... I want to know why. I never said I thought he was town, I said I didn't think he was scum. My read wasn't any better than null, in the post I linked earlier. You insinuating I called him town is putting WIFOM into my mouth, which is not what I said. One of the people that lynched glurio is scum. I refuse to believe 3 towns lynched him. We need to focus on: Sevryn Mocsta cdgCorazon And perhaps we can find a scum. It's fine if you guys still want to make cases on me, but I didn't just lynch a townie. Sevryn seems the most questionable. He really needs to post a lot more to show he's not a lurky scum. True, i just read the post again; sorry for the misrepresentation. That you stood up for me, made me think you thought he was town. Not sure why you would step in to defend a "null' read; even now with hindsight, thats an odd move to make. Because why would I lynch, or agree to the lynch of, someone I have a null read on, when there are lurkers like sylencia (at the time) and sevryn still in the game? Because Glurio and Syl were/are playing the same type of game (lurking) in my eyes, and apparently others agreed (by looking at the votes).
On February 13 2013 10:13 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 10:09 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 13 2013 10:07 cDgCorazon wrote:On February 13 2013 08:47 geript wrote:
Your "We haven't gotten scum day 1 lynching lurkers, so lets try a new tack" comment from a while back (would quote but still on phone) keeps on sounding like "Let's lynch a loud voice" to me. In my experience the louder voices are almost always town; I even think one of the guides says something similar.
Now you're going to ask why I'm not voting for you (likely), but I still think that you're misguided right now and not an active dissident. So my vote remains in place for right now. Hey guess what, we didn't "lynch a loud voce" and he flipped town... Uh...glurio was plenty loud right at the end with his ass on the line. But overall he was quiet. His filter is about a page and a half. Not a lot over 48 hours, especially with at least a third of it 30 minutes before lynch.
My justification for the vote was there. I put three people who I felt like voting for:
Geript
Mandalor
Glurio
I didn't vote for Sylencia because I think WB is scum, why would I vote with him?
I didn't vote for Geript because it was obvious he wasn't going to get lynched.
I had to choose between Mandalor and Glurio. Glurio's ridiculously stupid town claim put my vote on him and his OMGUS vote stayed me on him.
I've stated multiple times that there wasn't much to choose from between the 4 players. Glurio's actions the last hour of play (a majority of his posts) looked the scummiest to me and so I voted for him.
I didn't jump on Syl's vote because 2 wasn't enough to lynch Warbaby and (as I've said) it was obvious that no one wanted to lynch him.
I didn't want to stay on WB because the vote was 3-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 (exaggeration) and I didn't want to add another "1". My plan of "sticking with my guns" was assuming for a vote of 5-3-1 (or something similar). I did not want to waste my vote when it became a lot more valuable. So I committed to someone who was going to get lynched today.
If you guys have any questions, feel free to ask.
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