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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I'll try to do better next time! | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
 sorry, shoulad said that first.. just a bit shocked thats all | ||
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
Unfortunate for WoS and geript, but I believe it's more likely to be an SK over Vig here, since I mentioned Vig shooting N1 and was told it was 'too risky' for them to do it by Warbaby. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
hmm warbaby as SK.. actually that makes sense considering he has been flip flopping around so much, and joins whatever bandwagon is present. SK doesnt care about wagons either. ##Vote: warbaby | ||
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geript
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On February 14 2013 10:03 Sylencia wrote: There were 3 vote counts where I had 2 votes, 2 of them where I was set to be lynched. You are correct in that the goal of town is to scum hunt and not survival, but you don't really have a choice if it's either you or someone else who is going to die. I know I'm town, I don't know what he is, in this case it isn't about scum hunting for me but town number preservation. Of course there are times when you can take a bullet to prove people voting for you are suspicious but with 2-3 votes on the lynch target it doesn't give much information whatsoever. I keep an eye out for this survival kind of behavior thanks to one of my previous games. By this behavior, I mean self-preservation. It became a lot easier to spot last time because it was YourHarry doing it (I believe he's in my first and third/fourth game if you're interested in looking at what I'm talking about, it would be the topmost game with him in it). Saying "well I'm town" isn't alignment indicative at all -- anyone can say it. Just show us how town you are instead. Interrogate anyone but Warbaby. Hell, interrogate me. Ask me questions about other players. Whatever you need. | ||
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 14 2013 10:05 Sylencia wrote: I was roleblocked last night. Im taking a break; thsi is seriously fucked up (1) Who did mafia actually target? (2) 2nd hit: Vig hit or SK hit; (3) Your RB; town JK or scum RB? too much WIFOM for me. Be back later when head is cleared. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On February 14 2013 10:17 Mocsta wrote: Im taking a break; thsi is seriously fucked up (1) Who did mafia actually target? (2) 2nd hit: Vig hit or SK hit; (3) Your RB; town JK or scum RB? too much WIFOM for me. Be back later when head is cleared. Still have some time for a possible Vig to check in. I'm surprised there wasn't a claim given there was an hour window during which night actions were being put through, but that might just mean they're not able to respond yet. Going to have to assume SK if there isn't a claim in the next 24 hours. How do you think we should deal with the SK? I see you are ogling WB for it and he's gotten lots of attention already. Do you want to just lynch him and remove all doubt, or is there a way he can make it back to the green (or even just null) side? I feel I might be one of the few voices who wants to see what he can do before making a decision on him, particularly given how much time he spend defending yesterday. | ||
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
Someone made a post about Vig shooting on night 1 and saying they were an aggressive poker player and even that was too much of a gamble for them. If someone could help with finding this post I would be grateful. Also for point 3 Mocsta: - Town JK: Since I'm being seen as scum, might've chosen me to block a shot but why would the scum team ever choose me to shoot in that spot, since everyone is already looking at me. Unless they thought I was a framer, this seems unlikely. - Scum RB: Sn0 was saying he suspected me as being either blue or scum. Knowing I'm not scum, they could possibly see that as being the best shot at hitting a blue and running iwth it. That's how I see the RB. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
On February 11 2013 13:04 WaveofShadow wrote:Obviously the Day is still young but I expect more from my Town as the day progresses. That read to me as a very clear DT claim, and is what led me to doing my fake case on Wave -- I was pretty sure I'd found the DT and wanted to know who was willing to see him dead. Unfortunately, the fact that I saw his claim means that scum could also have seen the claim and decide to kill him N1. That same logic leads to scum not wanting to be any part of a mislynch on him, because they know he'll flip blue and they can't have that blood on their hands, which makes me think that scum are most likely to be the ones that gave support to my case but didn't push it. I don't know why Wave made a fake DT claim, other than to lure a mafia hit, of course. Or there's also the possibility that it wasn't a DT claim at all and he just randomly screwed up his capital letters. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On February 14 2013 10:24 Sylencia wrote: Ok if anyone can tell me I'm not crazy: Someone made a post about Vig shooting on night 1 and saying they were an aggressive poker player and even that was too much of a gamble for them. If someone could help with finding this post I would be grateful. Also for point 3 Mocsta: - Town JK: Since I'm being seen as scum, might've chosen me to block a shot but why would the scum team ever choose me to shoot in that spot, since everyone is already looking at me. Unless they thought I was a framer, this seems unlikely. - Scum RB: Sn0 was saying he suspected me as being either blue or scum. Knowing I'm not scum, they could possibly see that as being the best shot at hitting a blue and running iwth it. That's how I see the RB. There's a history of "people who like to discuss blue roles tend to have blue rules" here on TL mafia that I have seen. We can't read into it too much unless someone outright claims it or it is revealed at endgame, but there's one possible reason you were RB'd but not NK'd. On this topic, why the two people who actually were killed? WoS had some suspicion on him from a few of us not long before the deadline, and geript was suspicious of WoS... I'll take a look through their filters for the next project. A wise man once told me that dead townies filters get largely ignored and dead scum filters tend to get over-analyzed, so I'm going to see what I get from looking at them, see who their suspects were, where their votes landed, what they said after lynch, etc. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On February 14 2013 10:40 zarepath wrote: I don't understand how geript is a good target for either an SK or a Vig, but I've never played with an SK. Geript wasn't exactly a lurker, and of the bottom 5 contributors, he was a head above the others, imo. The only solution I'm willing to accept is that scum avoided killing WB to let the town hang him instead. That's about as far as I'm going to speculate about it. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
On February 14 2013 10:18 ObviousOne wrote: @Warbaby, I am your fresh start. I want to put aside the chaos of yesterday and your claim and just move on with assessing your scumhunting, so show me what you've got. I see that there is some action regarding taking a closer look at you from Mocsta and Sylencia, but I encourage you to give me some reads and I will take them for what they are worth without considering the D1 shitstorm. I'm still busy with work =/ I gave some reads here. I'll try to follow up like I said I would, when I'm done with work (hopefully soon). I like your post here on sylencia. By his reactions, I imply that he's been paying attention to the thread, but not posting a lot. This is active lurking, which I find scummy. Anyway I've said enough about sylencia for now, when I get around to posting more I'll make sure it's about other players. The double kill is interesting, but I haven't really digested it yet. It might make sense for vig to claim now (if there is one), since their bullet is spent. It could help eliminate speculation around an SK, although it would give scum some information =/ If there is an SK, we should consider being more careful posting null or town reads. With any luck the SK will nail a scum. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 14 2013 10:37 zarepath wrote: I'm convinced that the scum shot WaveofShadow, and here's why: That read to me as a very clear DT claim, and is what led me to doing my fake case on Wave -- I was pretty sure I'd found the DT and wanted to know who was willing to see him dead. Unfortunately, the fact that I saw his claim means that scum could also have seen the claim and decide to kill him N1. That same logic leads to scum not wanting to be any part of a mislynch on him, because they know he'll flip blue and they can't have that blood on their hands, which makes me think that scum are most likely to be the ones that gave support to my case but didn't push it. I don't know why Wave made a fake DT claim, other than to lure a mafia hit, of course. Or there's also the possibility that it wasn't a DT claim at all and he just randomly screwed up his capital letters. Sorry to chip in. but that is really bad logic DT isn't a role this game.... its pretty easy to check; frankly, i dont know why your making these type of claims without doing your homework? i.e. I would like an answer to the above please. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
On February 14 2013 08:18 Mocsta wrote: @Sn0_Man It has to do with: Then our conversation The point being; it never clicked with me why Geript mentioned he was saying he thought WB was town, instead of claimed town. When you said, it may not have been a "scum buddy" it all clicked together. I countered by saying: I didn't understand this at all; it seemed kind of cryptic. Were you saying that geript might be a Mason with Warbaby or something? | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
On February 14 2013 10:44 Mocsta wrote: Sorry to chip in. but that is really bad logic DT isn't a role this game.... its pretty easy to check; frankly, i dont know why your making these type of claims without doing your homework? i.e. I would like an answer to the above please. LOL wow, apparently you're right. That was a really needlessly risky thing I did then on Day 1. I built a lot of assumptions off of that. Okay, so I read the roles once before the game started, but decided I wasn't even going to look at them until after N1 to keep myself from delving into needless role speculation. I really should've checked when I saw the DT claim, but the last 4 games I've played have all had DTs and for some reason seeing those two capital letters in such an awkward sentence just made everything click for me and got me all excited. | ||
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