On February 14 2013 11:17 TestSubject893 wrote: B is unlikely becuase there is little reason for the mafia to think that ObviousOne will get tracked.
If scum did not value ObviousOne; why would you target him? That part of the story needs to be complete for me.
As an aside, we know ObviousOne isnt JK, because the kill went through despite a "JK block" Completely agree on the vig logic deduction.
Second question: Lets say ObviousOne claims VT => (COULD be Nosy Neghbour, he is not self-aware) What do we do; do we lynch ObviousOne? If so, if he flips town; does that mean we lynch you next?
I want to believe your claim; but the umm.. amazingness of it all is making me shocked all over again. I cant handle this twice in 2hours. Really need your answers on the above; and feedback from ObviousOne.
I don't really understand what you mean by scum not valuing him, can you be more specific?
And since you predicted his action so well, I say yes kill him still. If by some stroke of terrible lick for the town he is the vigilante, we can kill me next, but that would probably result in a game loss since we'd be down like 4 more townies at that point. I think we just lose if he's vigilante, but that's a risk I'm fine taking.
On February 14 2013 11:35 ObviousOne wrote: Well, fuck. There goes my shot at staying null.
I am Pops the Doorman and the Vigilante.
I shot WaveofShadow. I thought he was scum. I couldn't get a good read on him based on D1 and I felt it would give me insight into his back-and-forth with Corazon and thus more information about Corazon. Haven't looked yet at Corazon in light of the flip but now that it's out, you know where I was going with it and why I mentioned it earlier.
I don't believe in breadcrumbs (as you can see in the case of Zarepath, they aren't exactly invisible) and from what I've read/experienced in normal games, breadcrumbs are a good way to get yourself killed with a power role.
I also didn't want to give scum a chance at finding a confirmed town for tomorrow so I just kept quiet.
Give the scum a chance at confirmed town? You guys already know who is town, its everyone who isn't on your team~
On February 14 2013 11:35 ObviousOne wrote: Well, fuck. There goes my shot at staying null.
I am Pops the Doorman and the Vigilante.
I shot WaveofShadow. I thought he was scum. I couldn't get a good read on him based on D1 and I felt it would give me insight into his back-and-forth with Corazon and thus more information about Corazon. Haven't looked yet at Corazon in light of the flip but now that it's out, you know where I was going with it and why I mentioned it earlier.
I don't believe in breadcrumbs (as you can see in the case of Zarepath, they aren't exactly invisible) and from what I've read/experienced in normal games, breadcrumbs are a good way to get yourself killed with a power role.
I also didn't want to give scum a chance at finding a confirmed town for tomorrow so I just kept quiet.
why didnt you claim it since vigis are one shot making you a VT now?
On February 14 2013 11:35 ObviousOne wrote: Well, fuck. There goes my shot at staying null.
I am Pops the Doorman and the Vigilante.
I shot WaveofShadow. I thought he was scum. I couldn't get a good read on him based on D1 and I felt it would give me insight into his back-and-forth with Corazon and thus more information about Corazon. Haven't looked yet at Corazon in light of the flip but now that it's out, you know where I was going with it and why I mentioned it earlier.
I don't believe in breadcrumbs (as you can see in the case of Zarepath, they aren't exactly invisible) and from what I've read/experienced in normal games, breadcrumbs are a good way to get yourself killed with a power role.
I also didn't want to give scum a chance at finding a confirmed town for tomorrow so I just kept quiet.
I have serious problems with this claim
as TestSubject pointed out.
On February 14 2013 11:17 TestSubject893 wrote: A is unlikely for the following reasons. ObviousOne said himself that a Vigilante should have checked in ahead of time, making it unlikely that that is his role
On February 14 2013 10:23 ObviousOne wrote: Still have some time for a possible Vig to check in. I'm surprised there wasn't a claim given there was an hour window during which night actions were being put through, but that might just mean they're not able to respond yet. Going to have to assume SK if there isn't a claim in the next 24 hours.
Then there is:
On February 14 2013 10:03 Mocsta wrote: This is total bullshit:
If there is a vig out there; you better have breadcrumbs.
proper vig play, is to say who you are killing in the last minute before deadline (in this case you had 1 hr)
Newbie games always 1-shot vig; so if present, you are now VT; its safe to speak up
Now, i said @ 10:03 it is SAFE TO SPEAK UP, you are now VT
note @ 10:23 ObviousOne says
On February 14 2013 10:23 ObviousOne wrote: Still have some time for a possible Vig to check in. I'm surprised there wasn't a claim given there was an hour window during which night actions were being put through, but that might just mean they're not able to respond yet. Going to have to assume SK if there isn't a claim in the next 24 hours.
On February 14 2013 11:35 ObviousOne wrote: Well, fuck. There goes my shot at staying null.
I am Pops the Doorman and the Vigilante.
I shot WaveofShadow. I thought he was scum. I couldn't get a good read on him based on D1 and I felt it would give me insight into his back-and-forth with Corazon and thus more information about Corazon. Haven't looked yet at Corazon in light of the flip but now that it's out, you know where I was going with it and why I mentioned it earlier.
I don't believe in breadcrumbs (as you can see in the case of Zarepath, they aren't exactly invisible) and from what I've read/experienced in normal games, breadcrumbs are a good way to get yourself killed with a power role.
I also didn't want to give scum a chance at finding a confirmed town for tomorrow so I just kept quiet.
On February 14 2013 11:17 TestSubject893 wrote: A is unlikely for the following reasons. ObviousOne said himself that a Vigilante should have checked in ahead of time, making it unlikely that that is his role
On February 14 2013 10:23 ObviousOne wrote: Still have some time for a possible Vig to check in. I'm surprised there wasn't a claim given there was an hour window during which night actions were being put through, but that might just mean they're not able to respond yet. Going to have to assume SK if there isn't a claim in the next 24 hours.
On February 14 2013 10:23 ObviousOne wrote: Still have some time for a possible Vig to check in. I'm surprised there wasn't a claim given there was an hour window during which night actions were being put through, but that might just mean they're not able to respond yet. Going to have to assume SK if there isn't a claim in the next 24 hours.
##Vote: ObviousOne
You just fucked up majorly Mr.SK
Who else but me as vigilante is able to speculate on the existence or absence of a vigilante so confidently? I knew nobody would speak up since I was responsible for the kill, and if anyone had dared I would be an instant counter-claim to it.
On February 14 2013 11:35 ObviousOne wrote: Well, fuck. There goes my shot at staying null.
I am Pops the Doorman and the Vigilante.
I shot WaveofShadow. I thought he was scum. I couldn't get a good read on him based on D1 and I felt it would give me insight into his back-and-forth with Corazon and thus more information about Corazon. Haven't looked yet at Corazon in light of the flip but now that it's out, you know where I was going with it and why I mentioned it earlier.
I don't believe in breadcrumbs (as you can see in the case of Zarepath, they aren't exactly invisible) and from what I've read/experienced in normal games, breadcrumbs are a good way to get yourself killed with a power role.
I also didn't want to give scum a chance at finding a confirmed town for tomorrow so I just kept quiet.
I have serious problems with this claim
as TestSubject pointed out.
On February 14 2013 11:17 TestSubject893 wrote: A is unlikely for the following reasons. ObviousOne said himself that a Vigilante should have checked in ahead of time, making it unlikely that that is his role
On February 14 2013 10:23 ObviousOne wrote: Still have some time for a possible Vig to check in. I'm surprised there wasn't a claim given there was an hour window during which night actions were being put through, but that might just mean they're not able to respond yet. Going to have to assume SK if there isn't a claim in the next 24 hours.
Then there is:
On February 14 2013 10:03 Mocsta wrote: This is total bullshit:
If there is a vig out there; you better have breadcrumbs.
proper vig play, is to say who you are killing in the last minute before deadline (in this case you had 1 hr)
Newbie games always 1-shot vig; so if present, you are now VT; its safe to speak up
Now, i said @ 10:03 it is SAFE TO SPEAK UP, you are now VT
note @ 10:23 ObviousOne says
On February 14 2013 10:23 ObviousOne wrote: Still have some time for a possible Vig to check in. I'm surprised there wasn't a claim given there was an hour window during which night actions were being put through, but that might just mean they're not able to respond yet. Going to have to assume SK if there isn't a claim in the next 24 hours.
##Vote: ObviousOne
You just fucked up majorly Mr.SK
Who else but me as vigilante is able to speculate on the existence or absence of a vigilante so confidently? I knew nobody would speak up since I was responsible for the kill, and if anyone had dared I would be an instant counter-claim to it.
That is a fair point.
But Night 1, there was NO reason to suspect SK (as far as I was aware)
As I already stated.. you had a 1hr window to claim Vig preDay2.
You posted during this 1hr window.. but did not claim intention to kill WoS.
Well, don't let your conviction that I'm SK or scum somehow stop you from scum-hunting. Vote for me if you feel it's necessary but meanwhile there's still a game to play here. Going into the Corazone to see what I can conjure up.
On February 14 2013 09:47 ObviousOne wrote: Okay gonna stop filter-diving for a moment to give you some of my findings.
Sylencia
(theres actually quite a few posts).. you even comment on my last will, given 15min prior to deadline
On February 14 2013 10:17 Mocsta wrote: (2) 2nd hit: Vig hit or SK hit;
On February 14 2013 10:23 ObviousOne wrote: Still have some time for a possible Vig to check in. I'm surprised there wasn't a claim given there was an hour window during which night actions were being put through, but that might just mean they're not able to respond yet.
Im surprised too no-one claimed either.
Words straight out of ya mouth.
And you have proven you could respond.. and didnt.. so yeah.. SK SK SK
On February 14 2013 11:59 ObviousOne wrote: Who else but me as vigilante is able to speculate on the existence or absence of a vigilante so confidently? I knew nobody would speak up since I was responsible for the kill, and if anyone had dared I would be an instant counter-claim to it.
Then WHY WOULD YOU LET TOWN ASSUME THERE'S AN SK???
You sure you guys don't want any more help, then? If I'm the SK you have a guaranteed not-scum lynch putting you that much closer to MYLO/LYLO with no real information. I mean, I just want to know if I can fuck off if you're not going to read any more cases for me. If you will read them, they will come.
On February 14 2013 11:59 ObviousOne wrote: Who else but me as vigilante is able to speculate on the existence or absence of a vigilante so confidently? I knew nobody would speak up since I was responsible for the kill, and if anyone had dared I would be an instant counter-claim to it.
Then WHY WOULD YOU LET TOWN ASSUME THERE'S AN SK???
EPT
