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TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 14 2013 02:40 GMT
#1041
On February 14 2013 11:34 Mocsta wrote:
TestSubject,

I read the logic over a few times; I think the options listed are valid.

ObviousOne is a candidate for SK.. but I need to hear somethings from you first

Can you please clarify:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 11:17 TestSubject893 wrote:
B is unlikely becuase there is little reason for the mafia to think that ObviousOne will get tracked.

If scum did not value ObviousOne; why would you target him? That part of the story needs to be complete for me.


As an aside, we know ObviousOne isnt JK, because the kill went through despite a "JK block"
Completely agree on the vig logic deduction.


Second question:
Lets say ObviousOne claims VT => (COULD be Nosy Neghbour, he is not self-aware)
What do we do; do we lynch ObviousOne?
If so, if he flips town; does that mean we lynch you next?

I want to believe your claim; but the umm.. amazingness of it all is making me shocked all over again. I cant handle this twice in 2hours.
Really need your answers on the above; and feedback from ObviousOne.





I don't really understand what you mean by scum not valuing him, can you be more specific?

And since you predicted his action so well, I say yes kill him still. If by some stroke of terrible lick for the town he is the vigilante, we can kill me next, but that would probably result in a game loss since we'd be down like 4 more townies at that point. I think we just lose if he's vigilante, but that's a risk I'm fine taking.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 14 2013 02:40 GMT
#1042
Terrible luck, not lick.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 14 2013 02:43 GMT
#1043
On February 14 2013 11:35 ObviousOne wrote:
Well, fuck. There goes my shot at staying null.

I am Pops the Doorman and the Vigilante.

I shot WaveofShadow. I thought he was scum. I couldn't get a good read on him based on D1 and I felt it would give me insight into his back-and-forth with Corazon and thus more information about Corazon. Haven't looked yet at Corazon in light of the flip but now that it's out, you know where I was going with it and why I mentioned it earlier.

I don't believe in breadcrumbs (as you can see in the case of Zarepath, they aren't exactly invisible) and from what I've read/experienced in normal games, breadcrumbs are a good way to get yourself killed with a power role.

I also didn't want to give scum a chance at finding a confirmed town for tomorrow so I just kept quiet.


Give the scum a chance at confirmed town? You guys already know who is town, its everyone who isn't on your team~
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
February 14 2013 02:43 GMT
#1044
On February 14 2013 11:35 ObviousOne wrote:
Well, fuck. There goes my shot at staying null.

I am Pops the Doorman and the Vigilante.

I shot WaveofShadow. I thought he was scum. I couldn't get a good read on him based on D1 and I felt it would give me insight into his back-and-forth with Corazon and thus more information about Corazon. Haven't looked yet at Corazon in light of the flip but now that it's out, you know where I was going with it and why I mentioned it earlier.

I don't believe in breadcrumbs (as you can see in the case of Zarepath, they aren't exactly invisible) and from what I've read/experienced in normal games, breadcrumbs are a good way to get yourself killed with a power role.

I also didn't want to give scum a chance at finding a confirmed town for tomorrow so I just kept quiet.

why didnt you claim it since vigis are one shot making you a VT now?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 14 2013 02:50 GMT
#1045
On February 14 2013 11:35 ObviousOne wrote:
Well, fuck. There goes my shot at staying null.

I am Pops the Doorman and the Vigilante.

I shot WaveofShadow. I thought he was scum. I couldn't get a good read on him based on D1 and I felt it would give me insight into his back-and-forth with Corazon and thus more information about Corazon. Haven't looked yet at Corazon in light of the flip but now that it's out, you know where I was going with it and why I mentioned it earlier.

I don't believe in breadcrumbs (as you can see in the case of Zarepath, they aren't exactly invisible) and from what I've read/experienced in normal games, breadcrumbs are a good way to get yourself killed with a power role.

I also didn't want to give scum a chance at finding a confirmed town for tomorrow so I just kept quiet.

I have serious problems with this claim

as TestSubject pointed out.
On February 14 2013 11:17 TestSubject893 wrote:
A is unlikely for the following reasons. ObviousOne said himself that a Vigilante should have checked in ahead of time, making it unlikely that that is his role
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 10:23 ObviousOne wrote:
Still have some time for a possible Vig to check in. I'm surprised there wasn't a claim given there was an hour window during which night actions were being put through, but that might just mean they're not able to respond yet. Going to have to assume SK if there isn't a claim in the next 24 hours.


Then there is:
On February 14 2013 10:03 Mocsta wrote:
This is total bullshit:

If there is a vig out there; you better have breadcrumbs.

proper vig play, is to say who you are killing in the last minute before deadline (in this case you had 1 hr)

Newbie games always 1-shot vig; so if present, you are now VT; its safe to speak up

Now, i said @ 10:03 it is SAFE TO SPEAK UP, you are now VT

note @ 10:23 ObviousOne
says
On February 14 2013 10:23 ObviousOne wrote:
Still have some time for a possible Vig to check in. I'm surprised there wasn't a claim given there was an hour window during which night actions were being put through, but that might just mean they're not able to respond yet. Going to have to assume SK if there isn't a claim in the next 24 hours.


##Vote: ObviousOne

You just fucked up majorly Mr.SK
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 14 2013 02:51 GMT
#1046
On February 14 2013 11:35 ObviousOne wrote:
Well, fuck. There goes my shot at staying null.

I am Pops the Doorman and the Vigilante.

LOL

is Pops even a muppet?

Reminds me. of "Hi, I am Tommy the Fireman"
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 14 2013 02:52 GMT
#1047
Do you still need me to address B Mocsta? I'm still not really sure what you're asking.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 14 2013 02:55 GMT
#1048
On February 14 2013 11:52 TestSubject893 wrote:
Do you still need me to address B Mocsta? I'm still not really sure what you're asking.

All m00t now.

I was trying to keep an open mind to things; hence the questions.

But I think he just shat himself and didnt read your post properly.

If he did, he would have known vig was the one thing he could NOT claim LOL
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 14 2013 02:57 GMT
#1049
P.S.

Another kicker.

ObviousOne posted during the 1hr (no change to actoins) zone.. Could have easily said.. Hi, I am vig, and chose WoS.

So vote stands.

Welcome TestSubject, you are not our first confirmed town
Perhaps you can be the hero this town can trust for a consolidated vote
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 14 2013 02:57 GMT
#1050
EBWOP: you are NOW our first confirmed town
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 14 2013 02:59 GMT
#1051
On February 14 2013 11:50 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 11:35 ObviousOne wrote:
Well, fuck. There goes my shot at staying null.

I am Pops the Doorman and the Vigilante.

I shot WaveofShadow. I thought he was scum. I couldn't get a good read on him based on D1 and I felt it would give me insight into his back-and-forth with Corazon and thus more information about Corazon. Haven't looked yet at Corazon in light of the flip but now that it's out, you know where I was going with it and why I mentioned it earlier.

I don't believe in breadcrumbs (as you can see in the case of Zarepath, they aren't exactly invisible) and from what I've read/experienced in normal games, breadcrumbs are a good way to get yourself killed with a power role.

I also didn't want to give scum a chance at finding a confirmed town for tomorrow so I just kept quiet.

I have serious problems with this claim

as TestSubject pointed out.
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 11:17 TestSubject893 wrote:
A is unlikely for the following reasons. ObviousOne said himself that a Vigilante should have checked in ahead of time, making it unlikely that that is his role
On February 14 2013 10:23 ObviousOne wrote:
Still have some time for a possible Vig to check in. I'm surprised there wasn't a claim given there was an hour window during which night actions were being put through, but that might just mean they're not able to respond yet. Going to have to assume SK if there isn't a claim in the next 24 hours.


Then there is:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 10:03 Mocsta wrote:
This is total bullshit:

If there is a vig out there; you better have breadcrumbs.

proper vig play, is to say who you are killing in the last minute before deadline (in this case you had 1 hr)

Newbie games always 1-shot vig; so if present, you are now VT; its safe to speak up

Now, i said @ 10:03 it is SAFE TO SPEAK UP, you are now VT

note @ 10:23 ObviousOne
says
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 10:23 ObviousOne wrote:
Still have some time for a possible Vig to check in. I'm surprised there wasn't a claim given there was an hour window during which night actions were being put through, but that might just mean they're not able to respond yet. Going to have to assume SK if there isn't a claim in the next 24 hours.


##Vote: ObviousOne

You just fucked up majorly Mr.SK

Who else but me as vigilante is able to speculate on the existence or absence of a vigilante so confidently? I knew nobody would speak up since I was responsible for the kill, and if anyone had dared I would be an instant counter-claim to it.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 14 2013 03:02 GMT
#1052
I'm still not buying it. :/
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 14 2013 03:04 GMT
#1053
On February 14 2013 11:59 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 11:50 Mocsta wrote:
On February 14 2013 11:35 ObviousOne wrote:
Well, fuck. There goes my shot at staying null.

I am Pops the Doorman and the Vigilante.

I shot WaveofShadow. I thought he was scum. I couldn't get a good read on him based on D1 and I felt it would give me insight into his back-and-forth with Corazon and thus more information about Corazon. Haven't looked yet at Corazon in light of the flip but now that it's out, you know where I was going with it and why I mentioned it earlier.

I don't believe in breadcrumbs (as you can see in the case of Zarepath, they aren't exactly invisible) and from what I've read/experienced in normal games, breadcrumbs are a good way to get yourself killed with a power role.

I also didn't want to give scum a chance at finding a confirmed town for tomorrow so I just kept quiet.

I have serious problems with this claim

as TestSubject pointed out.
On February 14 2013 11:17 TestSubject893 wrote:
A is unlikely for the following reasons. ObviousOne said himself that a Vigilante should have checked in ahead of time, making it unlikely that that is his role
On February 14 2013 10:23 ObviousOne wrote:
Still have some time for a possible Vig to check in. I'm surprised there wasn't a claim given there was an hour window during which night actions were being put through, but that might just mean they're not able to respond yet. Going to have to assume SK if there isn't a claim in the next 24 hours.


Then there is:
On February 14 2013 10:03 Mocsta wrote:
This is total bullshit:

If there is a vig out there; you better have breadcrumbs.

proper vig play, is to say who you are killing in the last minute before deadline (in this case you had 1 hr)

Newbie games always 1-shot vig; so if present, you are now VT; its safe to speak up

Now, i said @ 10:03 it is SAFE TO SPEAK UP, you are now VT

note @ 10:23 ObviousOne
says
On February 14 2013 10:23 ObviousOne wrote:
Still have some time for a possible Vig to check in. I'm surprised there wasn't a claim given there was an hour window during which night actions were being put through, but that might just mean they're not able to respond yet. Going to have to assume SK if there isn't a claim in the next 24 hours.


##Vote: ObviousOne

You just fucked up majorly Mr.SK

Who else but me as vigilante is able to speculate on the existence or absence of a vigilante so confidently? I knew nobody would speak up since I was responsible for the kill, and if anyone had dared I would be an instant counter-claim to it.

That is a fair point.

But Night 1, there was NO reason to suspect SK (as far as I was aware)

As I already stated.. you had a 1hr window to claim Vig preDay2.

You posted during this 1hr window.. but did not claim intention to kill WoS.

The plan is foiled.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 14 2013 03:04 GMT
#1054
Well, don't let your conviction that I'm SK or scum somehow stop you from scum-hunting. Vote for me if you feel it's necessary but meanwhile there's still a game to play here. Going into the Corazone to see what I can conjure up.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 14 2013 03:06 GMT
#1055

Pops is indeed a muppet for you doubters, by the way. Guess the wrong person walked through my doorway (hint: it wasn't Johnny Cash).
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 14 2013 03:07 GMT
#1056
This is you posting during the final hour
On February 14 2013 09:47 ObviousOne wrote:
Okay gonna stop filter-diving for a moment to give you some of my findings.

Sylencia


(theres actually quite a few posts).. you even comment on my last will, given 15min prior to deadline

On February 14 2013 10:17 Mocsta wrote:
(2) 2nd hit: Vig hit or SK hit;

On February 14 2013 10:23 ObviousOne wrote:
Still have some time for a possible Vig to check in. I'm surprised there wasn't a claim given there was an hour window during which night actions were being put through, but that might just mean they're not able to respond yet.

Im surprised too no-one claimed either.

Words straight out of ya mouth.

And you have proven you could respond.. and didnt.. so yeah.. SK SK SK
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 14 2013 03:07 GMT
#1057
I'm pretty new to playing this game online, but I think what he's doing now is called busing.

In all honesty, Corazon is at the top of my list for players to pressure once we're sure we're killing OO.
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
February 14 2013 03:09 GMT
#1058
On February 14 2013 11:59 ObviousOne wrote:
Who else but me as vigilante is able to speculate on the existence or absence of a vigilante so confidently? I knew nobody would speak up since I was responsible for the kill, and if anyone had dared I would be an instant counter-claim to it.


Then WHY WOULD YOU LET TOWN ASSUME THERE'S AN SK???
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 14 2013 03:10 GMT
#1059
You sure you guys don't want any more help, then? If I'm the SK you have a guaranteed not-scum lynch putting you that much closer to MYLO/LYLO with no real information. I mean, I just want to know if I can fuck off if you're not going to read any more cases for me. If you will read them, they will come.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 14 2013 03:11 GMT
#1060
On February 14 2013 12:09 zarepath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 11:59 ObviousOne wrote:
Who else but me as vigilante is able to speculate on the existence or absence of a vigilante so confidently? I knew nobody would speak up since I was responsible for the kill, and if anyone had dared I would be an instant counter-claim to it.


Then WHY WOULD YOU LET TOWN ASSUME THERE'S AN SK???

Because it shouldn't change how you play?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
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