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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
On February 14 2013 12:11 ObviousOne wrote: Because it shouldn't change how you play? Then why even bring it up, to say "I'm going to have to assume there's an SK now" if it contributes nothing and won't change anything? | ||
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TestSubject893
United States774 Posts
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 14 2013 12:10 ObviousOne wrote: You sure you guys don't want any more help, then? If I'm the SK you have a guaranteed not-scum lynch putting you that much closer to MYLO/LYLO with no real information. I mean, I just want to know if I can fuck off if you're not going to read any more cases for me. If you will read them, they will come. The problem remains (1) You are scum and made the kill but u said you are vig and made the kill; so if we said.. you are scum... who the fuck killed geript.. either way, sk or scum which => lynch (2) You are vig and made the kill Considering only two kills; why pretend like there is SK around? SK there would be three kills... (3) You are SK and made the kill All coming together now, actions make sense. | ||
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Sevryn
698 Posts
On February 14 2013 11:50 Mocsta wrote: I have serious problems with this claim as TestSubject pointed out. Then there is: Now, i said @ 10:03 it is SAFE TO SPEAK UP, you are now VT note @ 10:23 ObviousOne says ##Vote: ObviousOne You just fucked up majorly Mr.SK Hey mocsta why did you say mr. sk but not scum? do you already know he isn't scum? | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
Really dubious claim. ##Vote ObviousOne | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On February 14 2013 12:11 zarepath wrote: Is that an offer? In exchange for another day of life, you'll kill someone we tell you to? You should probably judge that based on the evidence I dredge up, and not on me making promises for kills. After all, if people are decided that I am SK I'm not exactly sure how to refute that except to keep doing the job I'm supposed to be doing as town, as I have advocated others to do as well. On February 14 2013 12:14 zarepath wrote: And here's another thing -- you might not be SK. You could easily be mafia, the one who carried out the scum hit, and the SK hit geript. That's pretty easy to judge based on what I bring to the thread and how successful I end up being ousting mafia. Look at it this way, you either have to take me out now because of your suspicions that I am SK at the risk a faster loss with two town lynches in a row, meaning town play MUST be very successful (town CAN come back from two town lynches in a row) - or - You can wait til you find the three scum with my help and if the game doesn't end you just straight up hang me on the spot. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 14 2013 12:19 Sevryn wrote: Hey mocsta why did you say mr. sk but not scum? do you already know he isn't scum? Hi Mr. lurker, Well I didnt think he was scum before the killing, so wasn't a natural thought to assume he is scum now. Either way; I am certain he is scum/SK now; and should be the lynch candidate for today. Are you going to continue lurking and taking snipes? Or are you going to join town and rid us of EVIL !! | ||
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Sevryn
698 Posts
##vote ObviousOne | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 14 2013 12:21 ObviousOne wrote: You should probably judge that based on the evidence I dredge up, and not on me making promises for kills. After all, if people are decided that I am SK I'm not exactly sure how to refute that except to keep doing the job I'm supposed to be doing as town, as I have advocated others to do as well. That's pretty easy to judge based on what I bring to the thread and how successful I end up being ousting mafia. Look at it this way, you either have to take me out now because of your suspicions that I am SK at the risk a faster loss with two town lynches in a row, meaning town play MUST be very successful (town CAN come back from two town lynches in a row) - or - You can wait til you find the three scum with my help and if the game doesn't end you just straight up hang me on the spot. You forgot the most important "OR" OR town lynch you, and its equivalent to lynching scum; your win-con requires town and scum eliminated, so you are still a threat. | ||
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
I don't think we can risk him being scum and blindsiding us by saying he's SK and helping us by targetting scum. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
The other problem is that having both SK kills and mafia kills each night will be super confusing as to knowing who actually killed you; we'd have to take your word for it. If you actually think an SK would be worth keeping around, and that's your defense, you better hard claim SK and explain your value to town. This either-or crap only solidifies your lynch. | ||
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Sevryn
698 Posts
On February 14 2013 12:22 Mocsta wrote: Hi Mr. lurker, Well I didnt think he was scum before the killing, so wasn't a natural thought to assume he is scum now. Either way; I am certain he is scum/SK now; and should be the lynch candidate for today. Are you going to continue lurking and taking snipes? Or are you going to join town and rid us of EVIL !! hey im working on not lurking and have posted my views on corazon which I would love to hear what you think about it. if we decide to lynch OO which I think we should We have Two whole days to talk about who to lynch next which is a huge bonus. i do think we should stay away from arguements that involve speculating on what his flip means till he flips that way we dont get distracted on what it means. | ||
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TestSubject893
United States774 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On February 14 2013 12:26 Sevryn wrote: hey im working on not lurking and have posted my views on corazon which I would love to hear what you think about it. if we decide to lynch OO which I think we should We have Two whole days to talk about who to lynch next which is a huge bonus. i do think we should stay away from arguements that involve speculating on what his flip means till he flips that way we dont get distracted on what it means. hmmm, Corazon hasnt been on my mind to be honest; I think someone made a case (?Geript IIRC) - which I guess is suspect, knowing that that OO killed WoS no matter alignment. I can look into it; but I still want more information from zarepath first. this SK dilemna has clouded the thread somewhat (deserving though albeit) so things like my questions to zarepath are buried. Taking a break regardless | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
I know you are looking for my analysis of my fake case, but I did have that -- it was a list of their reactions. It's informed all my other reads, but I haven't done another full recap of it. I forget what your other question was. I'll check tomorrow. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
At first I wasn't sure about ObviousOne's vig claim, but there's a decent case for why ObviousOne is probably not vig. Vig should have claimed earlier to clear up SK speculation, especially since the vig is single-bullet. I'm buying this argument. It's possible TestSubject is lying hardcore with his claim and case, but that would be an even more daring gambit than ObviousOne fake claiming vig to save his scum/SK ass. ##Vote: ObviousOne Hopefully I will not be as IRL busy tomorrow (12 hour workday today =/) and can put more effort into the game. I'm heading to bed now. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
I am The One and I acted alone. There are most likely only three among you who were handed the red pill. You are going to need weapons. Lots of them. The agents of the enemy are among us. Did you see her? The woman in the red dress? | ||
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