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On November 19 2012 09:53 DarthPunk wrote:
Right. I caught up. Clarity whining about inactivity in this game is just silly. This is the opposite of an inactive game. The fact that clarity persists on spending so much time whining about inactivity when that is not happening bothers me. Also clarity has asked me to actually pursue scum reads as If I haven;t already. I had a major scum read on ZB and pursued it. I had a scum read on clarity and posted a case to a vitriolic reception.
That's another thing. Clarity says I should make a case on him if he is my scum read. as if I have not already. I would like to know the town mindset behind spreading untruths and focusing far to much on inactivity when the game is not inactive.
Blazinghands case against clarity is good. And the fact that clarity resorted to WIFOM to establish his townieness worries me.
S&B is a town read.
clarity and djo need to be looked at next.
If BH is alive much longer we need to lynch him.
i do that all the time asking for cases on me if people really think im scum. I think town members tend to be more aggresive and would have no problem making a case. Just because hes asking you to do something ,that would be false from his perspective if he is town , doesn't mean their is a scum motivation behind it. Its just asking you to put your thoughts out there
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Djodref (Replaced thrawn2112) - watch out for him
Blazinghand - im believing his claim for now
strongandbig - lynch him
DarthPunk - somethings I haven't liek about his activity today, but i feel he's town for now
Clarity_nl - lynch second for now
Hopeless1der - confirmed town imo
iamperfection - town
Kickstart - town
Z-BosoN
debears
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would go more in depth but in middle of lol game lol
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On November 19 2012 10:24 debears wrote:
would go more in depth but in middle of lol game lol
your in the middle of a mafia game right now 2
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lol games dont last a week..
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My reads in order of most town to least town:
Hopeless - No reason to disbelieve him. He breadcrumbed his target and crossfire flipped red. CONFIRMED NOT SCUM. Possibility of SK, but very small. DO NOT LYNCH.
iamperfection - Town. Not much more to say. He's super duper town of townyness.
Darthpunk - Seriously not happy about his D2 and N2, but he was the hammer vote on hapa and his behavior is consistent.
Blazinghand - Sigh, he's town. I kinda wish he wasn't. Unless some crazy claims happen there's no way he's not JK.
Djodref - Not a good lynch. Setup speculation is annoying as fuck but it's not necesarilly scummy. Other than that he seems like his town self so far. Thrawn was rather scummy but we don't
know why he got replaced so we can't really use thrawn's posts against djo. Anyone who does is dumb or scum.
debears - Ack. I really don't know man. D1 he brushed off accusations like he didn't care at all, which is not his town meta. He 180'd on Zbo D2, and 180'd on me. Insisting that everyone on hapa is town is weird, and he keeps trying to take credit for stuff. Please read this guy's filter. My gut says scum, but I'm having a lot of trouble finding stuff to make a good case.
Kickstart - Starting to doubt. He dissapeared after it was clear he was considered town. Please push this guy to make more original reads on people. Do not accept the answer "Nothing has changed since last time I gave reads", because it has. Compare his Day 1 to his Day 2 and you'll see.
strongandbig - Scum. Doesn't care about the game unless he's under pressure, then suddenly he posts like a god. Perfectly happy to do nothing at all. Lynch him D3. I don't know how he got away D2.
I am actually hoping that Kickstart claims Cop or something during this grace period, it would explain some things.
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Alarm went off this time.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
I gotta say, it's 2 am in netherlands and clarity wakes up to make his post but debears can't stop playing LoL long enough to explain his reads at length
..yup
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It's not so much inactivity as it's the willingness to show up, add nothing but post anyway, and dissapear.
Inactivity was a bad word to use. People were playing like we'd already won.
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On November 19 2012 10:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
It's not so much inactivity as it's the willingness to show up, add nothing but post anyway, and dissapear.
Inactivity was a bad word to use. People were playing like we'd already won.
to be fair i have noticed that in all my games the threads kind of die on weekends.
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Yeah like I said I'm probably being unfair. I wanted people off their asses so I did.
Darth, I asked you to make a case on me since you mentioned you still had a scumread on me D2, and your case on D1 was rather terrible. If someone else was your scumread I'd ask you to make a case on them.
I'm not gonna ask you to make a case on someone you don't mention is a scumread of yours, and so far you've only mentioned me. The fact that you haven't made a case kinda sucks, but ya know. It's easy to see if someone is town when they are making a case on town.
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Plus setup speculation was driving me crazy.
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I fully expect to die tonight. Suggesting that scum don't want me dead is ludicrous. I'm the closest thing to confirmed town in the game.
On November 19 2012 03:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like I said. They want the cop dead ASAP. You are no threat since you'll just get perma roleblocked.
The order does matter. I'd be shocked if the scum shoots you or hopeless.
This is just flat out wrong. It doesn't make him scum, but with BH's case and the general read I got following Day 1, I'm willing to lynch clarity.
DP - Town
iamp - Probably Town
BH - probably town
SnB- Still remarkably useless, aside from pushing BH like a motherfucker and building on djodref's setup spec's. He should be active enough to resolve this, if he's town. Potential lynch that probably won't happen because he'll stop sucking bag (hopefully).
djodref - setup speculation extraordinaire. Null.
debears - Willing to lynch
Kickstart - Nubby with a lack of contribution and an insistence that 'nothing has changed' for various things in the thread. Just absolutely stifling for discussion. Unsure how scummy this makes him if he feels that he's legitimately already said everything that needs to be said. Willing to Lynch.
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How is it wrong that the scum don't want the cop dead WTF. They have to blindly kill people that AREN'T you or BH.
The cop checks the scum, it's game over. #1 priority for scum is to kill the cop. He doesn't give a shit about confirmed townies right now. Am I really the only one seeing this?
Hopeless you might be confirmed townie but what have you done with it so far? You have a vote, that's it.
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Let's say snb is scum, hopeless vigi blazing jk kickstart cop and everyone else vt.
The scum has to nk and mislynch three times. Kickstart will have already done 2 checks. If he kills hopeless the cop will have checked 3 times. He doesn't even know who the cop is. You think he'll kill blazing next night?!?!? There's no way kickstart won't have checked him by then.
Scum has to lynch blind hoping to hit the cop, it's his only chance.
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yes a potential cop would be bad for mafia.
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Even your resolution reads have no reasons. The reason to me lynch is "this post that doesn't make him scum, but is wrong! oh ye and the cases other people made"
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
The sliding scale of town vs scum!
Towniest
hopeless: he's our vigi. probably dead tonight
iamp: been thinking smart and critically this game
dp: consider this a read with modestly large error bars. I like DP. I like what he did D1 and I like that he understood my claim and has been reasonable on things like setup speculation. no-body, though, not even him is above suspicion
clarity: you can swap him with kickstart. clarity has been thoughtful and useful but I don't like how he acted D1 and some people don't like how he acted D2. I would not lynch him D3 though. I guess he's been too damn smart and useful so far so we can't do this. waking up at 2:30 am earns him some credit to honestly-- and yes, I made a case on him. I don't like him. I don't like the fact that he's smart enough to fool me. Originally he was down just above drojef, but he doesn't deserve that today. KEEP AN EYE ON HIM. clarity is smart and if he's the scum this is probably how he'd seem right now. Keep an eye on this mofo
kickstart: inactive, unhelpful, still don't know that he cares to play the game. "but BH what if he's just lazy town" well yeah that's why he's not the scummiest. He hasn't contributed except when earnestly pushed to-- and I don't like it.
debears: I guess you could swap HIM with kickstart also, but essentially it boils down to two things I don't like about him, but a couple saving graces that keep me from saying "let's lynch debears today": he was off his town meta d1. not a huge amount, but some. I kinda agree with his thing that everyone on hapa is probably town, but it blinds him (or seems to blind him) and gives him an excuse for his reads that I don't like. really actually maybe he's townier than kickstart. I need to know more about kickstart.
drojef: opting out of the discourse, but also has a tunnelling meta as town, so he escapes the noose today.
SnB: we all know the deal. setup speculation with drojef. been playing like turd. he doesn't want to play the game and is trying to avoid taking stances. why don't you want to play, SnB? why not give reads and be accountable and do things other than tunnel me? This isn't like you at all.
scummiest
I get that some people disagree with me, but i'm probably living through the night so I have plenty of time to refine and interact etc. If scum kills me i'll be kinda astonished-- killing hopeless or even hunting for the blue would be a wiser decision if most people think what they think. if scum kills me though it's also the right move, since i'm the best player here. Yeah I had a rough start but i've got this covered.
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We don't know if we have a cop or who that supposed cop has checked. You make a good point though about shooting blind, but I still think I'm a very likely target.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
"wahh blazinghand you didn't color-code each dude's name" well damn looks like you'll actually have to read my reads then won't you
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