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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 14 2012 07:31 Hapahauli wrote: That's fair - didn't really understand your word-choice at first, but I can't blame ya for it I guess it's because I just started the post and ended it. I spellchecked but that's it. So I started out with "Yeah making a case on him isn't working" But I guess I did end up making a case on him, heh. I just wanted to put thoughts out there that weren't about BH, as I felt others were flying under the radar. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On November 14 2012 07:31 Blazinghand wrote: Z&B was hopping around and trying to start wagons until one stuck, then he did, and it stuck. He is the scummiest, and I will lynch him. Other people might also be scummy, but that's not my main concern: I've caught scum. It's a waste of my time and attention to think about these other, worse candidates beyond the normal examination of their posts and the cases against him. he uses his vote as a way to pressure people and he's "hopping around trying to start wagons"? Like one or two hours into the game? What drugs are you on? Attacking your attacker isn't just OMGUS, his case is clearly more than just OMGUS. My vote on Palmar in Rock Band at the start was OMGUS. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On November 14 2012 07:24 Blazinghand wrote:(...) It's not absurd, because you literally did start a wagon. You hopped your vote around until something stuck so you could look good. Exactly, thanks for confirming this. You are using the fact that the wagon actually started as an argument. It follows that if the wagon hadn't started, than I would look much townier. How in the world is an argument based on the actions of others valid?? I can only see this being close to valid in associative tells, which is not the case. See it's funny cause you DID unvote S&B quickly, but he was the vote you stuck to when a wagon formed. Iamp is scummy too. Yea, and I started pursuing you. You are casually dismissing it as an OMGUS for me to back away from SnB. You still somehow feel my vote on him wasn't a pressure vote, and that I actually wanted to lynch him. You are also treating him as an obvious townie, which is not at all fathomable. No, it had some valid, unfabricated, true arguments, not at all contrived as implied in "straight up OMGUS". Your goal has been to back down from your case. I see you saying "especially regarding someone like BH"-- if you think this is my scum meta, or if you think me being confident or aggressive if my scum meta, you are just an oyster with your head in the sand. Yea, that's a very nice explanation. I also did that with debears, you know. I felt that my vote on him was weak and not getting traction, so I set up a very extensive case on SnB - just like with you - just so I had an excuse to back off. ...How in the hell is that "classic scum"? That line of thought from scum is absurd. My god. Let me know if someone else finds this plausible in the slightest sense of the word. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Man, there's few things I hate like arguing about my own meta, but several people have talked about it, at least in passing, so I'm dispelling the meta myth right now. I would have liked someone else to do it, but you all are too lazy to actually back up your meta statements so I have to do it myself. It'd be really nice if one of you could verify it for yourself because a dude talking about his own meta doesn't usually go well. Here are my scum games. There might be one or two I'm missing, but these are the ones I remember: Cop Idiot Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328827&user=133498 Bureaucracy Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=133498 Resistance II: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=311315&user=133498 Emergency Mini Mafia (3rd party): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=311315&user=133498 If you take a look at all these games, even Emergency Mini Mafia, what people are attributing to my "bad scum meta" this game are not present at all. As scum I try to play like town-- posting big cases and interacting with people a lot. Where I fail is that as scum, I'm typically overly diplomatic and temperamentally less aggressive. This game is nothing like any of my scum games. Now let's look at the one time I've been mislynched, in Storm Mafia: Storm Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313426&user=133498 Yeah it's rather old but the point is I don't always play perfectly. Sometimes, yes, I'm making smaller posts and my cases aren't perfect. I've been mislynched for playing to my "scum meta" when in fact I just sometimes play differently as town. I'm not making the same mistake I made in Storm Mafia-- not defending myself zealously and claiming at the appropriate time. I'm the Jailkeeper. My crumb is in the post where I talk about my large penis and how it could work as a "pad" (link)-- for pad-lock, lock, locked up, jail, jailkeeper. Admittedly, role crumbs aren't much supporting evidence, but lynching a claimed blue D1 is amazingly bad play. It's possible there's no scum roleblocker which means my power can still be of use to us. You all have plenty of time to unvote me and vote Z-B before the day ends. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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marvellosity
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
Don't be arrogant enough to not realize how faulty the picture you are trying to paint on me is. Well, there is no choice but to unvote you, but try to remove your goggle vision and see that your arguments against me are absurdly weak. Gonna take a break and reevaluate. Fuck ##Unvote | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
My first impression is that this is the most needlessly reckless play ever for scum to do. Ever. On the other hand, the claim itself is such an overreaction to the suspicion on him. The former explanation seems more likely to me... but like damn dude... | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On November 14 2012 07:56 Hapahauli wrote: Well thanks for breaking the ice there marv. I'm a bit speechless myself. My first impression is that this is the most needlessly reckless play ever for scum to do. Ever. On the other hand, the claim itself is such an overreaction to the suspicion on him. The former explanation seems more likely to me... but like damn dude... oh pish, prplhz claimed cop with 3 votes on him in NMM2 day 1 and he was scum. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On November 14 2012 07:58 marvellosity wrote: oh pish, prplhz claimed cop with 3 votes on him in NMM2 day 1 and he was scum. Well BH isn't prplhz. Prplhz also fake-claimed vigi when we were both masons in Rockband. (/still bitter) Do you think this claim is just a random desperate scum act? I have a hard time believing so. Then again I wouldn't have expected a potentially town BH to do this either. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9634 Posts
On November 14 2012 07:44 Blazinghand wrote: Well, I was hoping it wouldn't come to this, but if wishes were wings, etc. Man, there's few things I hate like arguing about my own meta, but several people have talked about it, at least in passing, so I'm dispelling the meta myth right now. I would have liked someone else to do it, but you all are too lazy to actually back up your meta statements so I have to do it myself. It'd be really nice if one of you could verify it for yourself because a dude talking about his own meta doesn't usually go well. Here are my scum games. There might be one or two I'm missing, but these are the ones I remember: Cop Idiot Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328827&user=133498 Bureaucracy Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=133498 Resistance II: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=311315&user=133498 Emergency Mini Mafia (3rd party): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=311315&user=133498 If you take a look at all these games, even Emergency Mini Mafia, what people are attributing to my "bad scum meta" this game are not present at all. As scum I try to play like town-- posting big cases and interacting with people a lot. Where I fail is that as scum, I'm typically overly diplomatic and temperamentally less aggressive. This game is nothing like any of my scum games. Now let's look at the one time I've been mislynched, in Storm Mafia: Storm Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313426&user=133498 Yeah it's rather old but the point is I don't always play perfectly. Sometimes, yes, I'm making smaller posts and my cases aren't perfect. I've been mislynched for playing to my "scum meta" when in fact I just sometimes play differently as town. I'm not making the same mistake I made in Storm Mafia-- not defending myself zealously and claiming at the appropriate time. I'm the Jailkeeper. My crumb is in the post where I talk about my large penis and how it could work as a "pad" (link)-- for pad-lock, lock, locked up, jail, jailkeeper. Admittedly, role crumbs aren't much supporting evidence, but lynching a claimed blue D1 is amazingly bad play. It's possible there's no scum roleblocker which means my power can still be of use to us. You all have plenty of time to unvote me and vote Z-B before the day ends. you may never criticize me ever again. and im not sure if i believe this claim of yours there seems to me no reason for it you had plenty of time to work your way out of it your town. Thanks for pointing out we had plenty of time to not vote for you. idiot. ## Unovte | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
youre welcome to be mad at me but at least let me soak up a bullet/rb tonight and potentially stop the scum NK | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
there is almost certainly a scum roleblocker and so basically scum are giving up all their roleblocks for this claim, because BH would have to soak up the scum roleblock every night. Further he's a sitting duck later on. As town it's also fucking retarded though. Fuck. | ||
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