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On October 17 2012 22:35 Woizit wrote: Wow, I just did a quick look through GSL interviews in April and May, and indeed no Slayers player ever mentioned members from other teams as practice partners. All the thanks they gave were only to teammates. Thanks for checking!
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So this is all Manager J's fault?? Whoever he is, he is a piece of shit.
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This is depressing news to wake up to
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On October 17 2012 22:39 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 22:37 sertas wrote: wow evreone is against Jessica as usual. Wasnt Jessica the same person who got like extremly mad at some twitters? Like going berserk over it. Doubt you really can take anything she says seriously. At least you can get that there were some problems but the specifics are way to biased. It's happened alot even fxoboss and her had a drama filled conversation lol Well to be fair, BoSs was acting like a dick and provoking her that time and on her second language aswell.
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Part 5:
MMA incident - We had a manager(initial J) who took care of our relationship with overseas partners/fans. J focused on working with the images BoxeR had. He was not a good friend with MMA to begin with but since MMA started to perform well, he always came to the studio when MMA played. - He wanted to look after SlayerS official Facebook page and Twitter to communicate with foreign fans more. As he started that, that's when we promoted him to a manager position where he also took care of overseas partners. He also took care of negotiations between two of our sponsors with an extension. - He kept reporting me that our demands and their demands never seem to meet. I asked myself 'why are the sponsors doing this to us now when we are performing better?' after reading what they were offering. So I gave up on the extension. - That's when the problems rose, I was sure that I could run and manage the team without a sponsor so I decided to operate the team as we've been and planned to seek out for a new sponsor in the future. But I have noticed a weird atmosphere among players and manager J acted suspiciously. Turns out manager J was lying to me about what he was telling sponsors and he told players that I have embezzeled money and goods using reputations of the team and the players. Everyone knew that BoxeR was spending his own money to run the team and I don't know how players believed the manager who joined the team 2 months ago. - MMA firmly believed that I have embezzled his money from the personal sponsor and I was very disappointed. I cared every single one of them sincerely and loved them but they believed the manager... I can't remember how long I cried. J manager offered players behind my back to form a new team with him that he could get more sponsors than I did. MMA did not confirm anything with any means and accepted that offer which he confessed me later. - More shocking thing was that no players told me about this. I was going to formally sue the manager but I couldn't because I didn't want to disturb young players with a court case. If I had never found about this.. then players would have left the team without knowing.. That's when I lost my faith in MMA - MMA and others, who often participated in a foriegn tournament, claimed that whenever he says hell to other players from the federation, they would ignore him and that they kept mocking SlayerS and themselves. MMA, Alicia, Crank and GanZi have all told me the same thing. And this was the cover-up reason he told others and the medias.
Other parts http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376041¤tpage=8#156
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On October 17 2012 22:41 et wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 22:35 Woizit wrote: Wow, I just did a quick look through GSL interviews in April and May, and indeed no Slayers player ever mentioned members from other teams as practice partners. All the thanks they gave were only to teammates. Thanks for checking! Which April and May? 2011 or 2012? Also, did players from other team thanked Slayers players?
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Jessica you got this, Hope you and boxer will do well. Well if thats true of MMA I feel terrible. I don't know what to think of my favorite team anymore ;(
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On October 17 2012 22:37 Hypemeup wrote: I hope this is the last time Jessica has anything to do with Korean esports. are you for real?
she supported the scene more than any other team manager
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I was prepared for this. I remember the LO3 episode where Slasher breaks the news of Axiom forming. Shortly after that he hints at Slayers breaking up. For all the drama that happened, i think Boxer leaving was the biggest sign that they might not survive. I'm hoping someone can provide an unbiased account of what happened (hopefully slasher has something, he's sources have proven pretty good lately).
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Sigh. In fairness to Jessica, if even 10% of what she says is true, it's still pretty nasty. :/ And there is some evidence that points to some of the statements being true, for example, it does seem Slayers players stopped practicing with people outside the team to some extent.
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On October 17 2012 22:41 mrRoflpwn wrote: So this is all Manager J's fault?? Whoever he is, he is a piece of shit.
According to Jessica. However, the players seem to agree with this manager.
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Korea owns Foreigner not only in BW and SC2, but also in drama.
People shouldn't be taking any sides until both sides have spoken and we have a proper translation and timeline of the events.
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So, Jessica never actually left her drama career. It all makes sense now.
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On October 17 2012 22:35 Twinkle Toes wrote: This thread moved fast. What will happen to the players? It seems several are moving to LoL (Min, Coca, Puzzle at least). Others will probably look for other teams. Azubu seems a likely destination for some considering they recently acquired IntoTheRain as a coach for their single sc2 player (Violet), which probably means they are looking to establish a proper sc2 team. Axiom (TB's team) could also pick up a couple (MMA?).
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if like the quater of everything Jessica says is true then I'm totally disgusted by behind-the-scene of the Korean scene / ESF.
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This is sad to see such a top-team die
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i think the most suspicious ones are the crank + MMA ones, id take the entire ESF against slayerS thing with a grain of salt, but the crank ones sound believable.
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On October 17 2012 22:41 Kasaraki wrote: Sigh. In fairness to Jessica, if even 10% of what she says is true, it's still pretty nasty. :/ And there is some evidence that points to some of the statements being true, for example, it does seem Slayers players stopped practicing with people outside the team to some extent.
shocking revelations that korean esports dickishness and isolationism isnt aimed at white people at all! we all thought they were racist! turns out they are all dicks to everyone, just assholes, not racists.
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Manager J Hui-Chul “Garfield” Jung was born in 1985 in Germany. Since 2005, Hui-Chul has been the Head Manager of Korean gaming team Lunatic-Hai. Since joining the e-sports community in 2001, Hui-Chul has witnessed e-sports become more professional, more interesting, and more prestigious. He sees the development of e-sports as a very positive and valuable experience. By joining the Revolutionary Council and helping to develop and improve the structures in e-sport, he hopes that everyone else is able to enjoy the same great experiences he did. From KODE5
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