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I don't really agree with the whole "If I take time off to recover with surgery I may as well retire" mentality.
Kespa players started playing SC2 super late and look how fast they are rising. It may take a month or two once he comes back before he starts winning anything, but I don't think it's that big a deal. You can always watch and stay up to date with current events and the metagame that way.
Thanks for the translation.
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On October 04 2012 12:45 Grobyc wrote: I don't really agree with the whole "If I take time off to recover with surgery I may as well retire" mentality.
Kespa players started playing SC2 super late and look how fast they are rising. It may take a month or two once he comes back before he starts winning anything, but I don't think it's that big a deal. You can always watch and stay up to date with current events and the metagame that way.
Thanks for the translation.
But spinal surgeries are pretty serious and no one knows the time line for recovery.
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I really hope he takes a break after this GSL (whether he wins it or not) to get his neck fixed. With the impending arrival of HOTS, this is the ideal time to attend to his health without losing too much ground. Please think about it! And good luck vs Rain.
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Mvp fans have to go through this emotional roller-coaster.
Giddy when he busts out his amazing skill and rolls through his opponent. Ever worried, his condition always lingering at the back of our minds. Sometimes depressingly sad when he loses and we note the toll of his injury.
I really do hope that GOM will have the courtesy to safeguard his Code S spot for him while he gets treatment. Even if it only alleviates the condition by a little, his health has to come first.
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On October 04 2012 12:45 Grobyc wrote: I don't really agree with the whole "If I take time off to recover with surgery I may as well retire" mentality.
Kespa players started playing SC2 super late and look how fast they are rising. It may take a month or two once he comes back before he starts winning anything, but I don't think it's that big a deal. You can always watch and stay up to date with current events and the metagame that way.
Thanks for the translation. You might want to read the article again. With his injury there is no way it takes only a month or 2. It is unknown how long it takes. Might be a year or 2 even.
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On October 04 2012 17:45 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 12:45 Grobyc wrote: I don't really agree with the whole "If I take time off to recover with surgery I may as well retire" mentality.
Kespa players started playing SC2 super late and look how fast they are rising. It may take a month or two once he comes back before he starts winning anything, but I don't think it's that big a deal. You can always watch and stay up to date with current events and the metagame that way.
Thanks for the translation. You might want to read the article again. With his injury there is no way it takes only a month or 2. It is unknown how long it takes. Might be a year or 2 even. I know, I said a month or two before he starts winning when he comes back, not that he would be out for only a month or two.
Even so, it's not worth risking permanent injury to your body to continue like this.
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I dont know in batman when his back is broken by bane he just snaps it back in and stand there until he walk again so maybe mvp can do that?
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Hey guys, we can try to imagine Mvp's pain and dilemma and all, but we'll never fully understand the kind of choices he has to confront. It's true we've seen Mvp dominated for a long time, but we must be reminded that it's probably b/c of 99% of perspiration and 1% of inspiration. Look at MVPsc, who also had tons of promises back then. Now he can't even get into Code S. The kind of competition Mvp faces is beyond us. Considering his family circumstances, which makes me respect him infinitely more, he must feel a huge responsibility on him to support his parents, his girlfriend, and his future kids. Either he remains in Code S and fights his heart out and knows that he's tried his best, or he gets EXPENSIVE treatment, loses practice time, and possibly losing sponsorship.
As fans, we can't act like selfish, whining kids who want him to play despite his injury. But, we can't act like we are snobs and point fingers at him for not getting his treatment. We can't assume financial security nor a successful treatment for Mvp. Mvp doesn't need our pity and instinctive advice, he needs our respect and recommendations based on calculations.
I say that we either continue to support Mvp for fighting against all odds (without whining about his injury), or actually approximate his financial assets, approximate the costs of the surgery and the recovery time, and devise a comprehensive plan responsible not only for the best case scenario but also the worst case scenario. These are the times that try men's souls: if Mvp so inspired us with his sense of responsibility, can't we learn to be more responsible too?
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This looks like a soap :\ unfortunately it's all true.
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would chiropractic treatment help? it is the problems with his spine after all
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Wow, what an amazing life story. I'm definitely rooting for this guy against rain even though I play Toss!
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Honestly, I would love to see Mvp undergo extensive treatment and get his condition fixed once and for all.
Still, I don't think this is the right time - he's in Code S Semifinals. He's at the point where he has an extremely realistic shot of winning the entire GSL. Even if he manages to defeat Rain and loses in the Finals, he will still have made a huge amount of money, waaay more than the payout for Semifinals.
Semifinals - $4,300 2nd Place - $17,000 1st Place - $42,500
That's right, winning his match against Rain will gain him a whopping $13,000. Winning another series after beating Rain will gain him $25,500.
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On September 25 2012 02:43 ACrow wrote: Get a treatment, seriously. With the impeding switch to HotS he wouldn't even lose out too much by recovering three months. Health is sooooooo important...
Yes, the end of this GSL would be the perfect timing. Especially in the first few months of HotS the metagame will shift like crazy.
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Hmm... so are we gonna send him like a "Please get the treatment, we we will always love you and will be rooting for you, when you return" card? Sounds like he really needs the encouragement from people to know that the fans will still be there :O
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On October 08 2012 05:03 Aunvilgod wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2012 02:43 ACrow wrote: Get a treatment, seriously. With the impeding switch to HotS he wouldn't even lose out too much by recovering three months. Health is sooooooo important... Yes, the end of this GSL would be the perfect timing. Especially in the first few months of HotS the metagame will shift like crazy.
Except that the treatment won't take 3 months.
The treatment is likely to take 1-2 years or more, and it's possible that the treatment won't help him recover permanently. The treatment may alleviate the symptoms, it might make his condition worse.
Mvp's mentality makes sense: he might feel that he should go out with a bang and leave with no regrets, because he may never be able to return.
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Manly tears were shed. T_T
Please MVP, I'm on my knees, after this tournament get the treatment done already! Health is the most important thing. Don't drag it on too long before it becomes permanent.
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he can't afford to take 1-2 years off... flash could have won 5 gsl's in the meantime and all of code s could be trampling with elephants... I think he's realistic and knows that this is the best time for him to rack up as much money as he can before HOTS arrives and changes the playing field once again.
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I think MVP will retire after this. Sad, but the truth . Or should take the rest of the year off and come back in 2013 .
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On October 05 2012 07:45 Grobyc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 17:45 Assirra wrote:On October 04 2012 12:45 Grobyc wrote: I don't really agree with the whole "If I take time off to recover with surgery I may as well retire" mentality.
Kespa players started playing SC2 super late and look how fast they are rising. It may take a month or two once he comes back before he starts winning anything, but I don't think it's that big a deal. You can always watch and stay up to date with current events and the metagame that way.
Thanks for the translation. You might want to read the article again. With his injury there is no way it takes only a month or 2. It is unknown how long it takes. Might be a year or 2 even. I know, I said a month or two before he starts winning when he comes back, not that he would be out for only a month or two. Even so, it's not worth risking permanent injury to your body to continue like this. He already has the permanent injury that has to be operated upon. He's still making GSL semis/finals; you're suggesting it's unreasonable to delay surgery when you're making $20k+/month, have no other skills, and likely won't be able to repeat the same results in a years time?
He's not delusional; the KeSPA guys/new ESF blood like life are really fucking good. It's an awful situation for him, but his handling of it is pretty understandable. Retiring when he gets surgery does seem like a solid call. Hope it all works out for him =(
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