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[Interview] LG-IM_Mvp Pt 2 - Neck Pains and Family

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Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 18:04:40
September 24 2012 17:28 GMT
#1
Alright so apparently there's a part 2 to this interview haha. If you missed part 1, it's available at this link. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=367674

Woah this is a tough one to translate. If anyone finds anything wrong with the translations feel free to correct. There're a few parts which might be kinda iffy, but I think the main gist of the interview is there.

Edit: If it matters to anyone, if I'm not wrong, this interview was uploaded to the Korean site 4 September, and the previous one was uploaded 31 August. In case you're looking at a timeframe of events of something 0.0

Translated from http://s.163.com/12/0924/15/8C67CU3100314D0E.html and http://s.163.com/12/0924/15/8C67CU3100314D0E_2.html
Original article at http://sports.news.nate.com/view/20120904n16999?mid=s1001&isq=6419



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The slump brought about by neck pains


Seo Yeon Ji: You are the player who have won the most number of GSLs, and you are titled "The King". May I know what's the secret behind staying at the top for such a long time?
[T/N: I think "The King" seems to be a suitable translation for his title? Basically he's name is "Jung Jong Hyun", but the title they gave him is "Jung Jong Wang", where "Wang" means "King". Not too sure about all the possible nuances or significance.]

Mvp: I've only won the championship four times. I have never thought that I was a legend, or the best player. To be honest, I think that amongst the players taking part in the GSL, my ability is of a lower rank.

Seo Yeon Ji: You've already won the championship four times. Aren't you being too modest?

Mvp: What modest, it's the truth. With how it is now, I'm really of a lower rank. Recently, I feel that my condition is really not good.

Seo Yeon Ji: You were recently eliminated from both OSL and WCG. Does that affect you?

Mvp: The fact is that my neck condition is really severe. Because of the pains in my spine, sometimes my arm will go numb (T/N: Like paralysis numb) too. My shoulders feel terrible. Sometimes, I can't even pick up the mouse.

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Seo Yeon Ji: Isn't that really really serious?

Mvp: It is serious. For normal people, the neck has the shape of an inverted "C", that's normal. But mine is already in a "C" shape. If it continues the pain will become even worse.

Seo Yeon Ji: Then wouldn't it be better to go for surgical treatment as soon as possible?

Mvp: That's also a problem. As a professional gamer, it feels like there'll be a huge drop even if we just stop playing for a week. In addition, the competition now is even stronger. I'm unable to complete my treatment.

But what upsets me most in the midst of this are the fans who keep wondering about the legitimacy of the injury. I say that my condition isn't good, but yet I still manage to win sometimes, which leads to the fans thinking things like "Seems like he's not really that ill", or "Is he really sick?"

To be honest, I really hate making excuses for my losses. Recently, I'm losing frequently, and that's because I'm not good enough. That's why I say that my current ability only belongs in the lower ranks of GSL. I'm not finding excuses for my losses. My body condition is really not good, but it's always seen as an excuse or a lie. It really makes me sad.

Seo Yeon Ji: I suppose there are times when you don't even feel like practising because of the pain?

Mvp: There's no choice. I just have to cut down on my practice time. I need to constantly think of new strategies and builds, and test them through practice, but it is really tough to practise. My teeth would be clenched as I sit in front of the computer, but the pain would inevitably force me to stop. To be honest, if a professional gamer can't even go about practising properly, how can he improve? It's quite a miracle to even be able to maintain at a particular level.

Seo Yeon Ji: You need to get treated really soon. It's really so serious. I'm so worried.

Mvp: The people around me are all really worried about me. They keep suggesting to me to take a period of rest to focus on treating it. But it's just how it is.

Seo Yeon Ji: Injured players such as Flash have also had surgery, and also rested for a few months. Can't Mvp do the same?

Mvp: This isn't that easy a matter to settle. Firstly, we don't have an off-season. There is very little time to rest in between the GSL seasons. Also, global tournaments are constantly going on. In addition, Kespa players have joined in the scene recently, and that makes it all the harder. If I rest for three months and then come back, I might as well have retired.

Seo Yeon Ji: The profession of being a professional gamer is really so tough. Even if you're sick you are unable to get proper treatment of the condition. I'm so worried about what's going to happen to you in the future. But still, the fans will be hoping for the speedy recovery of Mvp.

Mvp: I haven't given up either. To be honest, if I had given up, I would have already stopped playing and concentrated on my treatment. But for now, there's still more I want to achieve. I can't just fall like that. I will try my best.

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The happiness of my family is my happiness


Seo Yeon Ji: What are you proudest of as a pro-gamer?

Mvp: When I was young, my family conditions were poor. And as I became a professional gamer, I was determined to succeed and buy a house for the family. But I wasn't able to fulfil that dream when I was in Woongjin.

Seo Yeon Ji: When you won GSL, you fulfilled your dream, and took the first step.

Mvp: I still remember it today. The house I was in last time was really small, and it was really inconvenient. But after winning GSL twice, I gathered enough money to buy a house. When I passed the money to my dad, I think my father said, "We can finally buy a house." My dad and I will never forget that moment. Even though I never said anything, I was happier than at any other time in my life.

Seo Yeon Ji: Looks like it was an opportunity well taken. If you had immediately retired after leaving Woongjin, then maybe you wouldn't have felt such a happiness.

Mvp: Yeah. And because of that, I've always been really grateful to my father, and also to Coach Kang Dong Hoon (IM Coach) and others who have led me on the way. They gave me, someone who had already chosen to quit, this opportunity. Perhaps, without these people by my side, I'd just be a player that nobody remembers.

Seo Yeon Ji: After becoming a professional gamer, you gave this gift of happiness to your family. Seems like you can be quite proud of yourself. Either way, as professional gamers reach a certain level, they are also able to bring happiness to their family.

Mvp: But, to be honest, I frequently think about myself not being suited to being a professional gamer. I didn't carry any stress before I started playing games. Strangely, after I became a professional gamer, I became more and more stressed, and at that point, I started suffering from poor health. I still frequently think about just quitting.

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Seo Yeon Ji: When you were active in Woongjin, you seemed to discover that you are unable to overcome the stress. Is that better now?

Mvp: I guess I'm still unable to overcome the stress. Normally, my character is such that I don't really care about winning or losing. My main aim in doing anything is to find joy and happiness in whatever I do, and I got along quite happily. But I'm unable to do that as a professional gamer. If I don't care about winning or losing, how can I be a professional gamer?

Maybe that's the reason. To be honest, I'm really tired. How good would it be, if perhaps my personality was a little tougher, and I did not get stressed so easily. I have the kind of personality that isn't suited to being a professional gamer, and yet I still became a professional gamer.

Seo Yeon Ji: After winning the championship 4 times, I think you probably do have the calling to be a professional gamer.

Mvp: Yeah I guess (laughs). To be honest, I think that after winning 4 championships, it can't just be luck anymore. But till today, I still question myself about whether I'm meant to be a professional gamer. But the first problem now is that my physical condition is not good, and it'd be difficult to continue my professional career. This makes me really stressed, and quite agitated.

Seo Yeon Ji: Not long ago, Violet sadly passed away. Since you're both professional gamers, I suppose you were quite sad about it too?

Mvp: To be honest, even though our relationship was not too close, but being a professional gamer, my heart still really hurt. I also attended his funeral. I know that Violet had a really bright and outgoing personality. His death was really quite a shock to me.

Recently, I came to understand that health is the most important thing in this world, and seeing this incident with Violet, that really struck home. I sincerely hope that Violet will be happy in a better place.

Seo Yeon Ji: Seems like there're really a lot of tough things to go through. I wouldn't have noticed that there was such an arduous journey behind a player who smiles all the time.

Mvp: But it's exactly these difficulties that made me who I am now, and so now I feel that it's worthwhile, and I'm quite proud of it. What won't I be able to do in the future after all these.

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Seo Yeon Ji: What's the dream of Mvp?

Mvp: Firstly, my dream of buying a house is fulfilled. My life goal is to live a life I do not regret. No matter what choices I make, I will give it my best shot. That way, I won't have regrets in the future.

Right now, the goal is to regain my health. I need to regain my health quickly so I can do more stuff that I want to do. I also hope all the people who know me will remain healthy too.

Seo Yeon Ji: Hope you'd recover soon, and climb up to even higher heights than ever before. Hopefully "The King" will return soon.

Mvp: For all the people who support me, I will definitely try my hardest. Keep an eye out!
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 24 2012 17:35 GMT
#2
It's incredible a player with so many major titles and widely regarded as the absolute best player on many occasions can some how never let it get to his head even once. Even players like flash have had their moments of massive ego yet MVP doesn't seem to rate himself that highly.
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IMNasty
Profile Joined February 2012
663 Posts
September 24 2012 17:38 GMT
#3
If I rest for three months and then come back, I might as well have retired.


i see this happening next year
the_business_og
Profile Joined April 2012
United States167 Posts
September 24 2012 17:41 GMT
#4
MVP really should take the rest.
shanti
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 24 2012 17:42 GMT
#5
mvp is actually not that old even though he's been around for a long time. not sure what exact condition he's suffering from and the schedule on recovery though
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
September 24 2012 17:43 GMT
#6
Get a treatment, seriously. With the impeding switch to HotS he wouldn't even lose out too much by recovering three months. Health is sooooooo important...
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 24 2012 17:44 GMT
#7
Thank you for translating, what a depressing interview though

It's crazy how Mvp does not rate himself highly even though he has accomplished the most of any player by far.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
September 24 2012 17:45 GMT
#8
On September 25 2012 02:42 oneofthem wrote:
mvp is actually not that old even though he's been around for a long time. not sure what exact condition he's suffering from and the schedule on recovery though


Not sure what the medical term is called.

What he has is an inverted spine at the cervical vertebrae. Normal people have an inverted c like he says. His neck is shaped as a c. Makes breathing hard because your windpipe gets pushed down on (hence why he probably mouth breathes). Also it causes nerve pinching because the disks in your neck are arranged in an inverted way (pinching of the nerves causes his pain).
The Notorious Winkles
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
September 24 2012 17:45 GMT
#9
He has to get a rest now. He has talent, he will get his skills back. But without treatment, he will just retire... Would be so sad
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 23:16:38
September 24 2012 17:46 GMT
#10
Mvp is an amazing hard working player. It was really touching hearing how he used his money from his tournament wins to finally buy his family a nice home... what a great guy. Every time I hear more from him I am more a fan of his.

<3
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zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
September 24 2012 17:46 GMT
#11
he really needs to take care of himself better.
because if he screws himself up even more, then that'll impact him for a long time through his life... and would probably become a big hindrance once/if he decides to retire and go for a more long-term job

also hots is gonna change alot of things too...
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Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 17:57:01
September 24 2012 17:48 GMT
#12
On September 25 2012 02:45 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 02:42 oneofthem wrote:
mvp is actually not that old even though he's been around for a long time. not sure what exact condition he's suffering from and the schedule on recovery though


Not sure what the medical term is called.

What he has is an inverted spine at the cervical vertebrae. Normal people have an inverted c like he says. His neck is shaped as a c. Makes breathing hard because your windpipe gets pushed down on (hence why he probably mouth breathes). Also it causes nerve pinching because the disks in your neck are arranged in an inverted way (pinching of the nerves causes his pain).


Google Translate of the Korean article shows several appearance of the term "cervical disc", though I have no idea what that is


Edit:

On September 25 2012 02:44 Dodgin wrote:
Thank you for translating, what a depressing interview though


Yea the first half of this interview was pretty sad to translate
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
grtgrt1
Profile Joined February 2011
76 Posts
September 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#13
On September 25 2012 02:43 ACrow wrote:
Get a treatment, seriously. With the impeding switch to HotS he wouldn't even lose out too much by recovering three months. Health is sooooooo important...


I was thinking the exact same thing. He'll lose the least right now. With proper therapy, he might even not need 3 months.
myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
September 24 2012 17:54 GMT
#14
it s sad, i hope he ll continue whenever to bring good results, get well soon
WhX
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany778 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 17:55:16
September 24 2012 17:54 GMT
#15
He's such a nice guy. I hope he'll get a proper treatment and recovers as soon as possible.

Edit: Thanks for the interviews. Appreciate it!
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
September 24 2012 17:57 GMT
#16
On September 25 2012 02:52 grtgrt1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 02:43 ACrow wrote:
Get a treatment, seriously. With the impeding switch to HotS he wouldn't even lose out too much by recovering three months. Health is sooooooo important...


I was thinking the exact same thing. He'll lose the least right now. With proper therapy, he might even not need 3 months.

Not quite 100% sure about the newest medical advances, but when my grandfather tried treatment for this condition nearly 10 years ago he did not improve at all for nearly a year. Frankly it isn't something you can solve with a quick operation and 2 months of rehab, the surgery is fairly invasive and it might not even work fully.

I hope he decides to get treatment still, because simply doing nothing doesnt heal anything either...
lessQQmorePEWPEW
Profile Joined November 2011
Jamaica921 Posts
September 24 2012 17:58 GMT
#17
For someone with the humility and determination as Mvp, I really think he should focus on medical treatment first. After all, whats the point of all that fame and money if you can't enjoy it with poor health conditions?

I hope Mvp takes a sabbatical to focus on his health and come back even stronger. gl Mvp, you will always be the terran savior in my mind.
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k!llua
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia895 Posts
September 24 2012 17:58 GMT
#18
What the flying shit is he thinking? Heart of the Swarm is going to come out soon and it's coming to the end of the year.

There's always a lull in eSports over December/January and the expansion will act like a bit of a reset for a lot of players as they're forced to play different styles. Whatever level he goes down to due to a lack of practice, he'll be able to catch back up in HOTS provided that he's fully rehabilitated.

Surgery. Now. For the love of god.
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9014 Posts
September 24 2012 18:05 GMT
#19
I wonder if he ever had any serious health problems before. If he did then he should be more appreciative of his health and get treatment asap.
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 18:10:53
September 24 2012 18:09 GMT
#20
Look at Flash, surgery is not that bad, with player of this calibre, and still young, he can still dominate next year after the surgery.

If he can dominate about 6 months in 2013, he should definitely be considered the first Bonjwa in SC2.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
September 24 2012 18:10 GMT
#21
On September 25 2012 03:09 ElephantBaby wrote:
Look at Flash, surgery is not that bad, with player of this calibre, and still young, he can still dominate next year after the surgery.


surgery on your cervical disks takes much, much longer to recover from than carpel tunnel surgery on your arm
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GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
September 24 2012 18:11 GMT
#22
This guy...
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
September 24 2012 18:11 GMT
#23
It's quite curious that they were able to purchase a house with 2 GSL championships, since I would assume that they didn't have many assets to begin with. Are prices in SK that low?

On September 25 2012 02:45 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 02:42 oneofthem wrote:
mvp is actually not that old even though he's been around for a long time. not sure what exact condition he's suffering from and the schedule on recovery though


Not sure what the medical term is called.

Cervical kyphosis.
grtgrt1
Profile Joined February 2011
76 Posts
September 24 2012 18:12 GMT
#24
On September 25 2012 02:57 Tula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 02:52 grtgrt1 wrote:
On September 25 2012 02:43 ACrow wrote:
Get a treatment, seriously. With the impeding switch to HotS he wouldn't even lose out too much by recovering three months. Health is sooooooo important...


I was thinking the exact same thing. He'll lose the least right now. With proper therapy, he might even not need 3 months.

Not quite 100% sure about the newest medical advances, but when my grandfather tried treatment for this condition nearly 10 years ago he did not improve at all for nearly a year. Frankly it isn't something you can solve with a quick operation and 2 months of rehab, the surgery is fairly invasive and it might not even work fully.

I hope he decides to get treatment still, because simply doing nothing doesnt heal anything either...


You seem to have more information about the details of this neck injury? I assumed it was either a herniated disc or cervical dislocation, both of which have to be really severe to require actual surgery and are firstly treated with a collar and physioteraphy. And of course completely avoiding the body/neck position you're usually playing starcraft in for as long as possible.

Also, I would assume that the effects of whatever treatment will be quicker on someone MVP's age than your grandfather's.

But I'm not trying to be a smartass here, as said, I don't know any details. I just think that if it's a couple of months reduction of practice and focus on recovery that he needs, now is the time.



Rube_Juice
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada348 Posts
September 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#25
I work a computer job and play a lot of Starcraft, and I suffer from a lot of neck/shoulder/wrist pain nowadays as well. It gets to the point where I can't/don't want to play because I know it'll hurt. I can only imagine how hard it must be for a progamer with similar problems.

NOT taking a rest and continuing to beat up your body is definitely not the right answer, and by MVP's previous interviews resting seems like something he is extremely reluctant to do. While I understand that, if he keeps grinding away at it it's going to only get worse, and follow him later in life. Take a break, dude. You can get back in the game later.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
September 24 2012 18:21 GMT
#26
mvp = best/classiest/most sincere/most intelligent sc2 player of all time
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
September 24 2012 18:29 GMT
#27
On September 25 2012 03:21 stratmatt wrote:
mvp = best/classiest/most sincere/most intelligent sc2 player of all time

This.

I really really hope he takes a break after this season(or maybe even next, since it will be shorter). With winter downtime + HotS he should have plent of time to recover. It would break my heart if he would have to retire someday because he refused to treat his injury.
Someone should collect messages from all his fans that want him to get surgery done and hand it to him, since I don't think he will do it otherwise.
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ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
September 24 2012 18:33 GMT
#28
Reading those kind of things is so sad... I hope he can recover and be the best he can be
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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
September 24 2012 18:34 GMT
#29
This part of the interview actually caused me to cry, especially the first part. :/ But, by the end I instead felt uplifted. Mvp seems like such an intelligent guy, I am in awe of his amazing attitude; though I question him not getting the surgery, I understand the dilemma he finds himself in.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 24 2012 18:37 GMT
#30
dammit, MVP's so humble, I would like nothing more than for him to take the break he needs then to come back in win absolutely everything, over Kespa, foreigner and ESF.
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Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
September 24 2012 18:44 GMT
#31
I really feel bad for MVP. I wish he could get treatment for his condition. I feel like if he keeps playing without getting treatment he will get to a point where he won't be able to play anyway.

Also, the interviewer looks like Park Bom in that last pic of her.
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Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 18:47:21
September 24 2012 18:47 GMT
#32
I think he should get his surgery right after his GSL run ends...which could be on wednesday if he gets knocked out of the RO16. Best to do it before HOTS comes out.
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zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
September 24 2012 18:48 GMT
#33
We should write him letters like for nada, that way he looks at his health because we dont want to see mvp retire
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
September 24 2012 18:48 GMT
#34
This shows just how hard MVP works to succeed at SC2. Anyone that can continue on while in terrible pain, and still remain humble on top of that deserves respect. I really hope he takes the time off and betters his health.
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
September 24 2012 18:51 GMT
#35
On September 25 2012 03:12 grtgrt1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 02:57 Tula wrote:
On September 25 2012 02:52 grtgrt1 wrote:
On September 25 2012 02:43 ACrow wrote:
Get a treatment, seriously. With the impeding switch to HotS he wouldn't even lose out too much by recovering three months. Health is sooooooo important...


I was thinking the exact same thing. He'll lose the least right now. With proper therapy, he might even not need 3 months.

Not quite 100% sure about the newest medical advances, but when my grandfather tried treatment for this condition nearly 10 years ago he did not improve at all for nearly a year. Frankly it isn't something you can solve with a quick operation and 2 months of rehab, the surgery is fairly invasive and it might not even work fully.

I hope he decides to get treatment still, because simply doing nothing doesnt heal anything either...


You seem to have more information about the details of this neck injury? I assumed it was either a herniated disc or cervical dislocation, both of which have to be really severe to require actual surgery and are firstly treated with a collar and physioteraphy. And of course completely avoiding the body/neck position you're usually playing starcraft in for as long as possible.

Also, I would assume that the effects of whatever treatment will be quicker on someone MVP's age than your grandfather's.

But I'm not trying to be a smartass here, as said, I don't know any details. I just think that if it's a couple of months reduction of practice and focus on recovery that he needs, now is the time.





some assumption in my own post as well obviously.
I'd assume he tried the collar + physiotherapy approach before, because that is something he should be able to do. If he did not, then obviously that should be the next step. IF he tried that and truly had no success (which is what it sounds like) surgery would be the next step.

And yes I agree he needs to seek treatment, as i said simply ignoring it won't achieve anything. But it might be a fairly long break (and yes, now would probably be the best time, he might be able to practice fully again in january - march when HotS competitions might kick off (or not depending on release date)).
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38198 Posts
September 24 2012 18:51 GMT
#36
We need an intervention for Mvp T___T

I really wish after this GSL season that he'd consider just taking some time off till next year.

It's better to get healthy at the risk of not being able to make it back to the top tier again than to risk your long term health to prolong your lifespan at the top. There's nothing to say he can't make it back after a few months off either.
JohnHarr
Profile Joined November 2011
United States375 Posts
September 24 2012 18:52 GMT
#37
This set of interviews really showed me MVP in a new light. He is just an awesome guy!

That being said, he really should take a good look at his health and try to get his condition improved before HoTS if he really wants to continue to be a top contender. MVP Fighting!!!
No matter how much the Earth dirties the snow, its nature is still white.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 24 2012 18:52 GMT
#38
MVP so humble... wah i like it
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
September 24 2012 18:52 GMT
#39
you're scaring me, MVP. Get treatment, rest, then start practicing again, you'll be fine!!
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 24 2012 18:54 GMT
#40
Wow, what a touching interview. Reading through this I felt nothing but wanting him to get the surgery and rest, wouldn't now be one of the better times to do it (just before hots)? He's so humble, regarding himself as a lower gsl player even though he has won the most GSLs.

gl MVP
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Lovedoll
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan540 Posts
September 24 2012 18:57 GMT
#41
With a heart as kind as his, Mvp more than deserves all the great success he's had in SC2.
Spread your eggs until they crack!
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 24 2012 19:14 GMT
#42
MVP you neeeeeeed to allow yourself treatment. 3 months sucks but it's better then suffering for the next xx months/years!
When I think of something else, something will go here
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 19:17:29
September 24 2012 19:16 GMT
#43
Very interesting read. Mvp seems to be such a incredible guy and sadly he doesnt know that. If he rated himself higher (which he should!) then maybe he would take a break from gaming and be more confident about coming back. But i understand that if you have worked so hard to get to where you are, then you dont want to risk losing it all. There is something special about watching Mvp play, i cant put my finger on it but it feels like a privilege. Ty for the translation btw
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
September 24 2012 19:23 GMT
#44
I feel like if he ever drops out of code a, that would be a time where he should 100% get surgery, there would be less immediate pressure on him. Still fucking amazing how he can consistently get Code S round of 16 with such pain.
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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
September 24 2012 19:27 GMT
#45
My teeth would be clenched as I sit in front of the computer

Lies, his mouth will be open when he plays :D
the_business_og
Profile Joined April 2012
United States167 Posts
September 24 2012 19:29 GMT
#46
MVP should win this GSL go out with a bang and return for hots
shanti
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9366 Posts
September 24 2012 19:32 GMT
#47
On September 25 2012 03:19 Rube_Juice wrote:
I work a computer job and play a lot of Starcraft, and I suffer from a lot of neck/shoulder/wrist pain nowadays as well. It gets to the point where I can't/don't want to play because I know it'll hurt. I can only imagine how hard it must be for a progamer with similar problems.

NOT taking a rest and continuing to beat up your body is definitely not the right answer, and by MVP's previous interviews resting seems like something he is extremely reluctant to do. While I understand that, if he keeps grinding away at it it's going to only get worse, and follow him later in life. Take a break, dude. You can get back in the game later.


I have a huge problem relaxing my neck while sleeping. NEver really had any problem with gaming. Could easily game 15 hours/row, no problems. But on most pillows my neck is just not relaxed. Really annoying.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
September 24 2012 19:34 GMT
#48
i hope he takes a rest and comeback after healing.
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
September 24 2012 19:35 GMT
#49
i wonder if he's refusing to take a break because he doesn't want to dissapoint the fans. if that'sthe case we should really let him know, that he should focus on his treatment.
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tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
September 24 2012 19:38 GMT
#50
Really depressing interview Hope he win this GSL then just take like 6 months off to treat then come back stronger or just retire.
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
September 24 2012 19:41 GMT
#51
thnx for this.. really unfortunate that progamers have to endure these types of injuries.. I could understand his drive.. but, taking some time off might be good.. HotS is coming out.. perfect timing.. remain the WoL King.

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
September 24 2012 19:41 GMT
#52
Mvp: I still remember it today. The house I was in last time was really small, and it was really inconvenient. But after winning GSL twice, I gathered enough money to buy a house. When I passed the money to my dad, I think my father said, "We can finally buy a house." My dad and I will never forget that moment. Even though I never said anything, I was happier than at any other time in my life.


Omg I literally cried. That's so emotional, to be able to win money so you can buy your family a house. I cannot even imagine the emotions of his family when that happened.
Long live the Boss Toss!
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
September 24 2012 19:45 GMT
#53
damn mvp, what a badass.

definitely just got pushed up on my list of favorite terran's

really hope he stops after this season and gets treatment.

with hots coming eventually, he will be able to reset with everyone else.
young ho
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
September 24 2012 19:56 GMT
#54
This interview is really depressing as you can see a ticking timebomb that is MVP's career. I hope the infusion of Kespa players isn't what's keeping him from having surgery (he seems really fearful that 3 months rest = impossible to catch up).
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
September 24 2012 20:03 GMT
#55
On September 25 2012 04:56 ssxsilver wrote:
This interview is really depressing as you can see a ticking timebomb that is MVP's career. I hope the infusion of Kespa players isn't what's keeping him from having surgery (he seems really fearful that 3 months rest = impossible to catch up).

Tbf, progaming as a career is a ticking timebomb by default.

Fuck, I wish he'd rest. Compete for 1-2 more years like this without treatment and cripple himself or get treatment now, go under for three months, and have to fight back to the top? Maybe when his play degenerates enough, he will go complete treatment.
D_K_night
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada615 Posts
September 24 2012 20:03 GMT
#56
I got teary-eyed when MVP bought his family a house. This is an amazing moment. MVP is quite possibly one of the most humble pro-gamers that I have yet read about.
Canada
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
September 24 2012 20:06 GMT
#57
This guy pratices 8 hours+ in pain and you couldnt get perfectly healthy foreigners to pratice 6 hours a day. MVP is an inspiration. Players like MVP really show the difference between Koreans and Foreigners.
"let your freak flag fly"
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
September 24 2012 20:16 GMT
#58
This guy is so awesome, I bet after reading this, most people will fall in love with his smile.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
September 24 2012 20:19 GMT
#59
i think the problem is for him there are only 2 options right now: Retire and get treatment or Keep struggling. He is really afraid of falling back and i can understand looking at new terrans like byun/taeja and incoming kespa players like roro and rain. But well IMO theres no point in trying to compete if you cant give 100%. He will fall back sooner or later with his injury. Hes just delaying it. Please take a few months of break and recover
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
September 24 2012 20:31 GMT
#60
Poor MVP. He really needs to take a break.

I can't believe fans would claim he was lying about his health. Pretty disgusting.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
MrBrunk
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada428 Posts
September 24 2012 20:34 GMT
#61
MVP your such an amazing and dedicated person, and the pro gamer I admire the most . I hope you consider getting treatment/surgery soon and rest up for a bit. I believe you would catch up in no time when you are feeling better and less stressed out and most importantly of all, playing without pain.
Wedge
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
September 24 2012 20:45 GMT
#62
Great article, thanks
StateofReverie
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States633 Posts
September 24 2012 21:00 GMT
#63
I feel like MVP is going through something that Flash went through here too. However with MVP his mindset is that he can't lose out on any practice time while Flash was thinking that he needed to spend as much time as possible to recouperate so that he would be able to preform better in the future

Im sure MVPs condition will only get worse if he doesn't take decisive action on this soon
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
September 24 2012 21:07 GMT
#64
We need to do something for Mvp, similar to what was done for DRG, Nada, and Jaedong. Let's organize a book of letters or art or something!
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Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
September 24 2012 21:19 GMT
#65
I am seriously worried for MVP, if he don't get surgery soon he might regret it
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
September 24 2012 21:22 GMT
#66
On September 25 2012 06:07 zefreak wrote:
We need to do something for Mvp, similar to what was done for DRG, Nada, and Jaedong. Let's organize a book of letters or art or something!

Just spam his Twitter - should be way faster and he needs treatment asap.
But otherwise something like Letters to Nada for Mvp would be awesome.
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 24 2012 21:33 GMT
#67
This is so painful to read. Really, it may sound rude but his stance is kinda dumb.

You don't want to be that guy who tries to tell MVP what's best for him, but you don't have to be a genius to recognize that what he's doing at the moment is obviously neither smart nor good.

Health should be put above everything, especially if you've already won as much money as MVP. I'm absolutely convinced that he could come back after a surgery or whatever he needs. If he "isn't able to complete his treatment", he might suffer his whole life. I can't even comprehend how you need to think twice about what to do.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
September 24 2012 21:52 GMT
#68
Everytime I read something about Mvp, it fucking pains my heart so much.

A miracle of our generation, hindered by injury =/
secret - never again
Atrbyg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States513 Posts
September 24 2012 21:59 GMT
#69
Man, now is the perfect time for MVP to rest with HotS incoming. He should really consider getting his health back.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28085 Posts
September 24 2012 22:06 GMT
#70
MVP is so awesome. I hope his condition will get better and he can come back and destroy everyone
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Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
September 24 2012 22:06 GMT
#71
Mvp is my favorite Korean Terran.

He's also my favorite progamer, by far. He really understands what it means to be a progamer. Koreans went crazy over NaNiwa's probe rush, but that's because this is the Korean progamer.

Every time I see someone root for someone else, maybe rooting for MMA to beat Mvp or rooting for Nerchio or MaNa, my heart breaks. This guy's personality is so warm, caring, mature, and inspirational.

An inspiration. He is a true inspiration. No matter what I do with the rest of my life, I will always remember Mvp.
IMMvp (정종현) | Fan Club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211431
NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
September 24 2012 22:30 GMT
#72
MVP is the greatest player and person all around that you could ask for... 4 GSL titles and he still is so humble... forever #1 in my mind
Whattttt Upppppppp Im Nesteaaaaaa!!
Norzma
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden160 Posts
September 24 2012 22:50 GMT
#73
I really hope Mvp takes the time to rest and get his health back, it would be terrible if he would get unrepairable damages because he wants to focus on play and practicing.

Young Terran
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom265 Posts
September 24 2012 22:54 GMT
#74
i think MVP should take a short break until hots comes out because he will destroy his body at this point
valentine1
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia129 Posts
September 24 2012 23:07 GMT
#75
it's strange that we can be so focused on watching great games, getting upset when our favourite players lose, that we often lose sight of the person behind the terran spawning at 2 o'clock on antiga and losing to some sneaky all-in.

it's because of interviews like these that we realise that these people are really worthy of admiration, not because they are skilled gamers we want to be like, but because they have qualities out of the game that make us privileged to watch them play. mvp is such a goddamn badass, and doing what he did for his father - buying a house! it's a bigger dream than being a pro-gamer and knowing this makes me respect him so much more.

mvp, i hope you get surgery soon!
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
September 24 2012 23:08 GMT
#76
On September 25 2012 05:06 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
This guy pratices 8 hours+ in pain and you couldnt get perfectly healthy foreigners to pratice 6 hours a day. MVP is an inspiration. Players like MVP really show the difference between Koreans and Foreigners.


I think mvp shows the difference between him and everyone else. Doesn't matter what nationality, mvp is just a better person. What a humble and kind king he is.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
September 24 2012 23:39 GMT
#77
For MVP's long term sake, I hope he loses his next code S match and then drops out of code A. I'm guessing his reason for not getting surgery is because he's in code S right now and he's afraid that if he leaves he'll never make it back. I'm really scared that the longer he puts it off the greater chances he causes permanent damage and has to retire from progaming for good like ggplay did.
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
September 24 2012 23:49 GMT
#78
Rest before HOTS please.... I expect you to win the first HOTS GSL and to do that you need to be in top shape!
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reikai
Profile Joined January 2011
United States359 Posts
September 24 2012 23:52 GMT
#79
On September 25 2012 02:43 ACrow wrote:
Get a treatment, seriously. With the impeding switch to HotS he wouldn't even lose out too much by recovering three months. Health is sooooooo important...


This!!!! Let your imba imba teammates at IM practice and figure out the new strategies... just come back even bigger and use their research to help you )
Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce. :T:
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
September 25 2012 00:00 GMT
#80
one thing koreans really like to say about Mvp is how he's king JJ, nicknamed after Jeongjo, a historical korean king
can i get my estro logo back pls
Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
September 25 2012 00:16 GMT
#81
Mvp is really a nice guy, He is so humble and doesnt even make excuses for his losses. If that were any other player, They will keep pestering that they are losing because of their sicknes. But MVP is different! And one thing, Please get treatment soon!
ForGG, Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, BoxeR,
Lavalamp799
Profile Joined March 2011
United States554 Posts
September 25 2012 00:45 GMT
#82
What's up with the random pics of this Korean chick?
OMS
Profile Joined September 2009
49 Posts
September 25 2012 00:56 GMT
#83
On September 25 2012 09:45 Lavalamp799 wrote:
What's up with the random pics of this Korean chick?


She's the one interviewing him.
그냥.
thirtyapm
Profile Joined January 2012
521 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 01:11:21
September 25 2012 01:11 GMT
#84
who's the girl? why is there more pics of the girl than mvp when it's an interview with mvp?

uh already answered, sry
MooMu
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada615 Posts
September 25 2012 01:11 GMT
#85
On September 25 2012 09:45 Lavalamp799 wrote:
What's up with the random pics of this Korean chick?


lol. yeah, totally unnecessary.
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
September 25 2012 01:17 GMT
#86
Even if he couldn't move his mouse at all and suffered from constant pain throughout a game whenever he even clicked the mouse and he lost the game, he would still say "I lost because my skills were inadequate."

Because that's how the King does it. Staying classy, staying dominant, persevering.
IMMvp (정종현) | Fan Club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211431
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
September 25 2012 01:28 GMT
#87
This is scary to me. I'd rather him heal now and work his way back up than play in severe pain. Suck at everything and then go and heal. Not sure why he feels like he wont be able to catch up.
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 25 2012 01:31 GMT
#88
I can understand how he feels, wanting to play through serious injury in order to win now, especially considering the brevity of a progaming career. Mvp will always be my favorite player, not because of his titles but because of his attitude and intelligent play.
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
September 25 2012 01:32 GMT
#89
I think he should rest and even get whatever medical treatment he needs for his neck. It sounds pretty bad when he can feel near paralysis at certain areas of his body. With HOTS beta in progress, it will be some months before the game comes out and a new meta game will arrive. IMO he really should rest up and come back when HOTS is in full swing next year.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
September 25 2012 02:35 GMT
#90
Someone really needs to grab MVP, slap him upside the head and say to him, "You are the MVP! Winner of 4 GSLs, one of which was done with a dysfunctional fucking SPINE! Get the surgery, come back and own Flash in the GSL finals, elephants be damned! You have what it takes!"
He's done the impossible so many times, he can't just let himself deteriorate like this. If he doesn't fix his neck, he'll lose everything. His career, his wealth, his health. Everything.
Besides, the biggest reset in SC2 history is coming out soon. What better time to take a break and get back in shape?
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
GT350
Profile Joined May 2012
United States270 Posts
September 25 2012 02:38 GMT
#91
MVP! Thanks for the interviews
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
September 25 2012 02:50 GMT
#92
On September 25 2012 10:11 MooMu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 09:45 Lavalamp799 wrote:
What's up with the random pics of this Korean chick?


lol. yeah, totally unnecessary.


If you really know who she is, you will know it is more than necessary. She is probably more famous than MVP in Korea starcraft scene.
Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
September 25 2012 03:01 GMT
#93
I hope he gets the surgery soon. Even if it takes longer than expected, I'm sure he will still have tons of fans when he recovers!
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
September 25 2012 03:25 GMT
#94
On September 25 2012 11:50 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 10:11 MooMu wrote:
On September 25 2012 09:45 Lavalamp799 wrote:
What's up with the random pics of this Korean chick?


lol. yeah, totally unnecessary.


If you really know who she is, you will know it is more than necessary. She is probably more famous than MVP in Korea starcraft scene.


I find that quite unlikely. Even broodwar fanboys know who MVP is because he's king of the game they mock.
esports
SecondHand
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States329 Posts
September 25 2012 03:27 GMT
#95
Mvp you are an amazing person. Your fans have never thought that it was an excuse that you are in a terrible condition. I wish we could help, but I don't know what to do.

I really hope you rest, it would be worth it in the long run..
Ladder more, win less
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
September 25 2012 03:34 GMT
#96
MVP is just such a great guy in and out. Truly admirable how he wanted to buy a house for his family. I mean his play is one amazing thing, and his character is equally impressive. If he does take time off to heal (which it sounds like he should) i hope he comes out better than ever.
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
September 25 2012 03:39 GMT
#97
Please get surgery MVP You are still young and have many years ahead of you, you shouldn't damage you body further
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
September 25 2012 03:40 GMT
#98
All my respect for MVP. In BW, I liked his games because he rarely cheesed. It made him predictable, but when he was on, he was ON. Even Flash fell to that (in one game of course).

Now I have even more respect, because he pushed onward and was able to achieve his dream of buying his family a house. How many of us can say that? How many of us can say that our happiest memory was buying a house for our family? For an awesome dad?

Utter respect. I hope he can somehow find time to have surgery. The more he puts it off, the harder it'll be. Maybe if he falls to Code A he should stop for a bit.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Picklebread
Profile Joined June 2011
808 Posts
September 25 2012 03:53 GMT
#99
He really should take a break, i mean i cant imagine MVP not being able to catch up after 3 months considering how much dedication he has, and also ESPECIALLY since HOTS is coming. He might not be able to dominate WoL after 3 months, but i would be so surprised if he wouldnt do well in HOTS.
Gorilla23
Profile Joined March 2012
United States339 Posts
September 25 2012 03:54 GMT
#100
A lot of people are mentioning how Mvp should take the time off right now to recover instead of later because of things like HotS, fewer tournaments around the end of a year, etc. Some people are comparing his situation to Flash's.

The thing is that Mvp does not have the same injury that Flash did. We don't know exactly what surgery he would intend on having, how that surgery would go, or how long the recovery period would be.

We also aren't considered one of the greatest SC2 players seen. He probably knows how time off would affect him more than any of us do.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
September 25 2012 03:59 GMT
#101
Ty for the translation.

As much as I love to watch Mvp play I would love to see him take some time off before Hots and work on getting closer to 100%. I guess i'll keep cheering for victories but if he loses it means he has more time to rest :/
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
September 25 2012 04:13 GMT
#102
There is very little time to rest in between the GSL seasons. Also, global tournaments are constantly going on. In addition, Kespa players have joined in the scene recently, and that makes it all the harder. If I rest for three months and then come back, I might as well have retired.


Unfortunately this is so true :< Some KeSPA players have already caught up and given a few months they'll definitely all be that more impressive. I think he should go get the treatment he needs though. He's had an amazing career in StarCraft II and I don't think he'll be able to take another GSL or something without being able to practice optimally so he might as well get his health in check before things decline. And who knows, maybe he'll even make a huge comeback after.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
September 25 2012 04:18 GMT
#103
This is straight up depressing. Happy about him being able to buy a house for a family, but all this retirement talk and his injury scares me. He really needs to get this sorted if it's as bad as he says, an eSports world without Mvp would be weird. :<
Long live the King of Wings
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 25 2012 04:21 GMT
#104
On September 25 2012 13:13 IcedBacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
There is very little time to rest in between the GSL seasons. Also, global tournaments are constantly going on. In addition, Kespa players have joined in the scene recently, and that makes it all the harder. If I rest for three months and then come back, I might as well have retired.


Unfortunately this is so true :< Some KeSPA players have already caught up and given a few months they'll definitely all be that more impressive. I think he should go get the treatment he needs though. He's had an amazing career in StarCraft II and I don't think he'll be able to take another GSL or something without being able to practice optimally so he might as well get his health in check before things decline. And who knows, maybe he'll even make a huge comeback after.


He can still win things even as he is right now, I think that's why he's not taking a break. He won GSL and IEM this year while heavily injured.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 25 2012 04:32 GMT
#105
I think that MVP should absolutely get an operation, and should get it now.

He is probably thinking to himself, that he has to choose a quiet (quiet Starcraft-wise) time to give him time to have an operation, and recover, but I would hazard that the best time is now. He should've chosen to have the operation a few months back, but I can understand him reluctance to leave during such an influx of new sc2 players (KeSPA). I don't think that he will find a better time than this, due to the fact that Wings Of Liberty is winding down, and Heart of the Swarm will reset the playing field Soon™. I also don't think that coming back is as difficult as most people think, mostly due to the speed the KeSPA player learned the game. So, it should be possible for him to regain his former level of skill, after recovering.

As I do not know the specifics of his medical condition, I cannot say for certain that the decision to operate now would be the best. However, MVP really should not leave something like this untreated, for his sake, and ours. Also, I don't believe that he can stay on top of the Starcraft 2 scene with decision making and build orders alone, and to get better he really needs this operation.

Regardless, <3 MVP, hope he gets better soon.
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 04:38:25
September 25 2012 04:36 GMT
#106
As a fan, sometimes I wish he would just get knocked out code S so he can focus on recovery. But clearly, at the top level of Starcraft, even resting for a couple months means you're way behind on the current meta game and will be out of shape on game mechanics.

I think the best time for him to take a break will be after this season of GSL. He will have a couple months to recover in time for Hots, then maybe he won't miss out as much.

It's pretty sad in the current state of e-sports, there is no "Off-Season" for a tournament as prestigious as the GSL
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aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
September 25 2012 05:10 GMT
#107
Mvp, take a break man! It's better for the future..
Mmm, what to watch.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
September 25 2012 05:18 GMT
#108
Whatever he chooses, MVP will always be remembered and in the hearts of many
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Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
September 25 2012 05:45 GMT
#109
MVP's interviews are always so depressing,
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Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
September 25 2012 05:59 GMT
#110
He must do a serious surgery/take a long break. Please Mvp. Else you will just harm yourself constantly without progress.
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brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
September 25 2012 06:08 GMT
#111
Get well soon. This is why I love MVP. He's so inspring and down to earth.
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Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 25 2012 06:14 GMT
#112
I don't think what he says is true at all, when Mvp was in form - hell, when he WASN'T in form he can win GSLs - he DOMINATED EVERYTHING. Closest thing SC2 has ever had to bonjwa, and it SUCKS that injury restrained him from his full potential. Who knows really though, the KESPA players could get much much much better in 3-4 months of playing, as we have seen them get so good in just the short time they have had already, and Mvp would probably know best of all.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
September 25 2012 07:32 GMT
#113
Fantastic interview, thanks for the translation
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acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
September 25 2012 08:26 GMT
#114
If MVP wins a 5th GSL title with his current condition.....
Flowsick
Profile Joined June 2011
Estonia234 Posts
September 25 2012 09:48 GMT
#115
I really hope Mvp gets the treatment. Naturally his form would drop significantly, but I imagine the hunger and motivation you get from being away for a while along with feeling much much better physically would allow someone with such amazing talents as Mvp to bounce back. I know I wouldn't stop cheering him on if he did it. C'mon Mvp, your fans want to see you in tip-top shape. Take care of yourself man!
Gene(S)is
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden419 Posts
September 25 2012 09:58 GMT
#116
Thanks for the translation Weirdkid!
For the swarm
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
September 25 2012 10:05 GMT
#117
I really don't like the example IMMvP is setting. Your physical/mental health are #1.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 25 2012 11:32 GMT
#118
Comon MVP, do the surgery TT
I don't know why he thinks he can't come back if he chose to rest for a few month.
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
September 25 2012 11:46 GMT
#119
On September 25 2012 02:43 ACrow wrote:
Get a treatment, seriously. With the impeding switch to HotS he wouldn't even lose out too much by recovering three months. Health is sooooooo important...


Yeah, I agree. Someone tell that to MVP.

Plus, it's not like he can't catch up again easily.

It's not like you have to "keep up". Once you stop playing for (even) 5 months, you just get up to date on builds and everything and copy what everyone else is doing. Slowly learn about the new stuff.

Basically, like how KeSPA players caught up easily.

SC2 isn't really a game where if you start late, you can't "catch up". You just copy everyone's build, watch VODs, figure out what the new strategy and builds everyone are using and why, then you do it.
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Masayume
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Netherlands208 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 12:14:05
September 25 2012 12:13 GMT
#120
I have the same condition and neck injury as MVP, and a surgery is really risky and it only has a 50% chance to even help. He seems to be at the point where I am at now, where the pain is very severe all the time, and I can only say that I respect this man so much for having pushed through that pain.

The best way to treat this problem is by a heavy treatment program from a chiropractor, coupled with lots of special exercises, a lot of icing and rest.

Having been disabled by this condition for 2 years now, and finally recovering, I truly hope that he takes the time between now and HotS coming out to start his treatment. He is a true champion and his reasons for fighting are to be admired. Please take care of your body MVP, before it will become too severe and you spend the rest of your life crippled, like my mother who has an advanced stage of this.
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habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
September 25 2012 12:24 GMT
#121
I just wish MVP takes break before hots, and can return in HOTS with his full power, please MVP, take a rest
Finnz
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom260 Posts
September 25 2012 12:31 GMT
#122
MVP will always be the king no matter what happens.

I wish he would take the rest that he needs and comes back to play again. Im sure someone of his talent could come back and still be the best in the world.
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
September 25 2012 22:02 GMT
#123
I would love to see him win a million more GSLs. Still, this interview begs the question:

When will be an appropriate time for him to leave?

His injury is a ticking time bomb and it is set to explode eventually. We know it and Mvp certainly feels it. Mvp can't keep doing this forever, he truly needs to stop eventually and get it treated.

Still, the fact that he knows this and is choosing to postpone his surgery says something about the enormous pressure he's in. He probably feels that getting surgery will virtually guarantee his fade from importance. Just follow Mvp's train of thought with me:

My wrist hurts and I believe my skill is VERY VERY low in the GSL -> I manage to win through luck -> If I stop playing and practicing, I will fall far behind the other players without hope of catching up, especially since I don't believe myself to possess a high skill level in the first place

Honestly, I believe that Mvp was planning on getting full-scale treatment around February to March of 2012. Unfortunately, he managed to win a GSL in that time.

If you honestly believe that your wins are LUCK, would you give up a Ro16 spot in the GSL? If you are competing for GSL, OSL, WCG, and there are so many foreign tournaments that offer a huge prize pool, would you willingly give up your streak of luck?

I can only feel that Mvp is waiting for his "luck" to run out. He wants to win as much as possible while he still can, and once his luck runs out, he will get the surgery/treatment. Afterwards, he can potentially return to the pro scene but he feels that he will be out of championship contention by that point. Basically, getting surgery will signal his retirement.

If you truly believe this, would you be willing to get your surgery now? If it were me and I felt this way, I would want to go out with a bang. I would seek that ONE last thing, maybe one last GSL. If it were me, I would continue trying my best, destroying my own health, all for the sake of making it deep into this GSL, perhaps even taking it home.

Mvp is really inspiring.
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Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
September 25 2012 22:36 GMT
#124
Please MVP, take the time to recuperate now. Sure I can definitely understand where you're coming from that all of these new things are coming in, BUT there will be a more leveled playing field once Heart of the Swarm starts! It'd be painful to watch you struggle because of your health issues during HotS when you should be playing at your best. If what you say about health being important and your current slump then isn't it the best time now to take a few months off SC2 in order to be treated? Not only that it'll finally get rid of all of the comments that your illness is used as an excuse for when you lose, another thing you are stressed out about. It just seems that taking time to recover is the best option for you right now!
pwnageoftheyear
Profile Joined September 2012
United States64 Posts
October 03 2012 05:03 GMT
#125
mvp is humble as fuck
eventually, we all must learn when to shut the f*** up
DuB phool
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1003 Posts
October 03 2012 05:18 GMT
#126
So many parts of this just made me want to cry... wow, what a guy.
Suddenly I like Mvp quite a lot. Such a story and such a fighter. GO. WIN!
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GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
October 03 2012 05:39 GMT
#127
this sucks so bad for such a good player ;_; so much talent... bad things always happen to good people
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Gojira621
Profile Joined October 2010
United States374 Posts
October 03 2012 06:08 GMT
#128
I think at the end of the year Mvp should really take some time off to get this stuff treated and hopefully fixed. It sounds like GSL season 5 will end at ipl5 in the beginning of december, and that's the last GSL for the year. Mr. Chae said something about hoping that the first season of next year's GSL will be HotS so maybe that would be a good time to take some time off and heal up. Even missing the first few months of HotS wouldn't be that bad there will be so much game-mapping and build testing going on
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tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
October 03 2012 06:24 GMT
#129
Eh, even though there's a lull around December, MVP still has a point. I think he's pretty unique in that he really understands the climate of the scene at the moment. We'll see how far he makes it this season.
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
October 03 2012 07:13 GMT
#130
He better get surgery, can't have MVP injured god damnit.
MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
October 03 2012 07:14 GMT
#131
I laugh at all the people who compare MVP and Flash in terms of injuries together. Didn't know if you had invasive surgery on your neck that you'd recover in the same amount of time as if it were done on your arm.

My friends brother is having constant surgery for what MVP has - it's not going to be fixed up just via one surgery. My friends brother is only 13 as well. I'd be putting money on MVP retiring. Like I said - It's not just something you can fix after a few hours in surgery, it'll take a lot longer. That's assuming everything goes swell too, MVP might have put too much strain on his neck that he could have permanently damaged a disc, I don't think anyone will really know until they get in there and try to fix it.
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Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
October 03 2012 08:20 GMT
#132
MVP... seriously take a break man. you have to. this is getting insane. T_T I was so sad to read this interview..
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kinsky
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany368 Posts
October 03 2012 08:33 GMT
#133
MVP= A true hero! What an attitude. More people should learn a lesson from him.
Jermman
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada174 Posts
October 03 2012 10:10 GMT
#134
MVP is the most humble man in esports, wow
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snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
October 03 2012 11:04 GMT
#135
Very inspiring interview. MVP truly is the king.
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Blacktion
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1148 Posts
October 03 2012 12:16 GMT
#136
"Seo Yeon Ji: What are you proudest of as a pro-gamer?

Mvp: When I was young, my family conditions were poor. And as I became a professional gamer, I was determined to succeed and buy a house for the family. But I wasn't able to fulfil that dream when I was in Woongjin.

Seo Yeon Ji: When you won GSL, you fulfilled your dream, and took the first step.

Mvp: I still remember it today. The house I was in last time was really small, and it was really inconvenient. But after winning GSL twice, I gathered enough money to buy a house. When I passed the money to my dad, I think my father said, "We can finally buy a house." My dad and I will never forget that moment. Even though I never said anything, I was happier than at any other time in my life."

MVP such a champion, in game and out of it.
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
October 03 2012 12:24 GMT
#137
I would've enjoyed the interview more if there were less pictures of the interviewer and more of MVP. Sure shes nice to look at but this is about MVP and the pain he has to fight; the interviewers photos just detracts from that.
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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 03 2012 12:35 GMT
#138
As somebody who has a simple L4/L5 disc herniation, I suspect that "treatment" isn't going to do much for MVP. Anything nerve-related is really tricky, and his condition isn't even an injury -- it's just his morphology. I wonder what doctors would even try to do for him? You can't unflex somebody's cervical spine, can you?

If you live with inflammation and pain of that type for a while, it usually takes an ungodly amount of time to cool it off. All the old triggers still remain, too. Good luck MVP -- I hope medical science has an answer for you.
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skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
October 03 2012 16:38 GMT
#139
mv fucking p~
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
October 04 2012 03:39 GMT
#140
Heart of a fing champion !

MVP not getting treatment means it's proberly simply not easily solved unlike the Flash wrist injury or the JD eye surgery.
Like others have stated nerve related injury's are difficult to pinpoint and repair, he might be out way more then 3 months, it could easily mean the end of his pro gaming career.

For people to say get treatment etc it's important to think in his shoes, and look at the money he has made so far, something simply could not have been done with a standard job. As long as he still can win i can't blame him for sticking around even though it's a painful proces, he has his family to think about.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 04 2012 03:45 GMT
#141
I don't really agree with the whole "If I take time off to recover with surgery I may as well retire" mentality.

Kespa players started playing SC2 super late and look how fast they are rising. It may take a month or two once he comes back before he starts winning anything, but I don't think it's that big a deal. You can always watch and stay up to date with current events and the metagame that way.

Thanks for the translation.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 04 2012 04:02 GMT
#142
On October 04 2012 12:45 Grobyc wrote:
I don't really agree with the whole "If I take time off to recover with surgery I may as well retire" mentality.

Kespa players started playing SC2 super late and look how fast they are rising. It may take a month or two once he comes back before he starts winning anything, but I don't think it's that big a deal. You can always watch and stay up to date with current events and the metagame that way.

Thanks for the translation.


But spinal surgeries are pretty serious and no one knows the time line for recovery.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 04 2012 04:41 GMT
#143
I really hope he takes a break after this GSL (whether he wins it or not) to get his neck fixed. With the impending arrival of HOTS, this is the ideal time to attend to his health without losing too much ground. Please think about it! And good luck vs Rain.
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Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
October 04 2012 04:45 GMT
#144
Mvp fans have to go through this emotional roller-coaster.

Giddy when he busts out his amazing skill and rolls through his opponent.
Ever worried, his condition always lingering at the back of our minds.
Sometimes depressingly sad when he loses and we note the toll of his injury.

I really do hope that GOM will have the courtesy to safeguard his Code S spot for him while he gets treatment. Even if it only alleviates the condition by a little, his health has to come first.
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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
October 04 2012 08:45 GMT
#145
On October 04 2012 12:45 Grobyc wrote:
I don't really agree with the whole "If I take time off to recover with surgery I may as well retire" mentality.

Kespa players started playing SC2 super late and look how fast they are rising. It may take a month or two once he comes back before he starts winning anything, but I don't think it's that big a deal. You can always watch and stay up to date with current events and the metagame that way.

Thanks for the translation.

You might want to read the article again. With his injury there is no way it takes only a month or 2. It is unknown how long it takes. Might be a year or 2 even.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 04 2012 22:45 GMT
#146
On October 04 2012 17:45 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 12:45 Grobyc wrote:
I don't really agree with the whole "If I take time off to recover with surgery I may as well retire" mentality.

Kespa players started playing SC2 super late and look how fast they are rising. It may take a month or two once he comes back before he starts winning anything, but I don't think it's that big a deal. You can always watch and stay up to date with current events and the metagame that way.

Thanks for the translation.

You might want to read the article again. With his injury there is no way it takes only a month or 2. It is unknown how long it takes. Might be a year or 2 even.

I know, I said a month or two before he starts winning when he comes back, not that he would be out for only a month or two.

Even so, it's not worth risking permanent injury to your body to continue like this.
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snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
October 04 2012 23:01 GMT
#147
I dont know in batman when his back is broken by bane he just snaps it back in and stand there until he walk again so maybe mvp can do that?
lailaiwd
Profile Joined October 2012
United States65 Posts
October 07 2012 16:49 GMT
#148
Hey guys, we can try to imagine Mvp's pain and dilemma and all, but we'll never fully understand the kind of choices he has to confront. It's true we've seen Mvp dominated for a long time, but we must be reminded that it's probably b/c of 99% of perspiration and 1% of inspiration. Look at MVPsc, who also had tons of promises back then. Now he can't even get into Code S. The kind of competition Mvp faces is beyond us. Considering his family circumstances, which makes me respect him infinitely more, he must feel a huge responsibility on him to support his parents, his girlfriend, and his future kids. Either he remains in Code S and fights his heart out and knows that he's tried his best, or he gets EXPENSIVE treatment, loses practice time, and possibly losing sponsorship.

As fans, we can't act like selfish, whining kids who want him to play despite his injury. But, we can't act like we are snobs and point fingers at him for not getting his treatment. We can't assume financial security nor a successful treatment for Mvp. Mvp doesn't need our pity and instinctive advice, he needs our respect and recommendations based on calculations.

I say that we either continue to support Mvp for fighting against all odds (without whining about his injury), or actually approximate his financial assets, approximate the costs of the surgery and the recovery time, and devise a comprehensive plan responsible not only for the best case scenario but also the worst case scenario. These are the times that try men's souls: if Mvp so inspired us with his sense of responsibility, can't we learn to be more responsible too?
In Mvp I trust.
imPermanenCe
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands595 Posts
October 07 2012 17:42 GMT
#149
This looks like a soap :\ unfortunately it's all true.
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ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
October 07 2012 17:45 GMT
#150
would chiropractic treatment help? it is the problems with his spine after all
Salient
Profile Joined August 2011
United States876 Posts
October 07 2012 19:43 GMT
#151
Wow, what an amazing life story. I'm definitely rooting for this guy against rain even though I play Toss!
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
October 07 2012 19:50 GMT
#152
Honestly, I would love to see Mvp undergo extensive treatment and get his condition fixed once and for all.

Still, I don't think this is the right time - he's in Code S Semifinals. He's at the point where he has an extremely realistic shot of winning the entire GSL. Even if he manages to defeat Rain and loses in the Finals, he will still have made a huge amount of money, waaay more than the payout for Semifinals.

Semifinals - $4,300
2nd Place - $17,000
1st Place - $42,500

That's right, winning his match against Rain will gain him a whopping $13,000.
Winning another series after beating Rain will gain him $25,500.
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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
October 07 2012 20:03 GMT
#153
On September 25 2012 02:43 ACrow wrote:
Get a treatment, seriously. With the impeding switch to HotS he wouldn't even lose out too much by recovering three months. Health is sooooooo important...


Yes, the end of this GSL would be the perfect timing. Especially in the first few months of HotS the metagame will shift like crazy.
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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
October 07 2012 20:09 GMT
#154
T_T Get will Mvp!
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Azelja
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan762 Posts
October 07 2012 20:23 GMT
#155
Hmm... so are we gonna send him like a "Please get the treatment, we we will always love you and will be rooting for you, when you return" card? Sounds like he really needs the encouragement from people to know that the fans will still be there :O
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
October 07 2012 20:46 GMT
#156
On October 08 2012 05:03 Aunvilgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 02:43 ACrow wrote:
Get a treatment, seriously. With the impeding switch to HotS he wouldn't even lose out too much by recovering three months. Health is sooooooo important...


Yes, the end of this GSL would be the perfect timing. Especially in the first few months of HotS the metagame will shift like crazy.


Except that the treatment won't take 3 months.

The treatment is likely to take 1-2 years or more, and it's possible that the treatment won't help him recover permanently. The treatment may alleviate the symptoms, it might make his condition worse.

Mvp's mentality makes sense: he might feel that he should go out with a bang and leave with no regrets, because he may never be able to return.
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Raid
Profile Joined September 2010
United States398 Posts
October 08 2012 00:03 GMT
#157
Manly tears were shed. T_T

Please MVP, I'm on my knees, after this tournament get the treatment done already! Health is the most important thing. Don't drag it on too long before it becomes permanent.
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
October 08 2012 00:35 GMT
#158
he can't afford to take 1-2 years off... flash could have won 5 gsl's in the meantime and all of code s could be trampling with elephants... I think he's realistic and knows that this is the best time for him to rack up as much money as he can before HOTS arrives and changes the playing field once again.
will216
Profile Joined August 2012
United States185 Posts
October 08 2012 00:41 GMT
#159
I think MVP will retire after this. Sad, but the truth . Or should take the rest of the year off and come back in 2013 .
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Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-08 00:56:16
October 08 2012 00:50 GMT
#160
On October 05 2012 07:45 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 17:45 Assirra wrote:
On October 04 2012 12:45 Grobyc wrote:
I don't really agree with the whole "If I take time off to recover with surgery I may as well retire" mentality.

Kespa players started playing SC2 super late and look how fast they are rising. It may take a month or two once he comes back before he starts winning anything, but I don't think it's that big a deal. You can always watch and stay up to date with current events and the metagame that way.

Thanks for the translation.

You might want to read the article again. With his injury there is no way it takes only a month or 2. It is unknown how long it takes. Might be a year or 2 even.

I know, I said a month or two before he starts winning when he comes back, not that he would be out for only a month or two.

Even so, it's not worth risking permanent injury to your body to continue like this.

He already has the permanent injury that has to be operated upon. He's still making GSL semis/finals; you're suggesting it's unreasonable to delay surgery when you're making $20k+/month, have no other skills, and likely won't be able to repeat the same results in a years time?

He's not delusional; the KeSPA guys/new ESF blood like life are really fucking good. It's an awful situation for him, but his handling of it is pretty understandable. Retiring when he gets surgery does seem like a solid call. Hope it all works out for him =(
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LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
October 08 2012 00:59 GMT
#161
damn dude lol go get surgery/treatment u can always come back to gaming especially if hes in better condition then now he can practice a bunch more
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 08 2012 05:35 GMT
#162
thanks for the translation! Poor MVP, hope he gets the surgery but I can understand why he is so hesitant about it as well. Such a hard situation for him
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Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
October 08 2012 10:12 GMT
#163
On October 08 2012 09:35 amazingoopah wrote:
he can't afford to take 1-2 years off... flash could have won 5 gsl's in the meantime and all of code s could be trampling with elephants... I think he's realistic and knows that this is the best time for him to rack up as much money as he can before HOTS arrives and changes the playing field once again.


He can. He needs to win this GSL and crush the elephant along the way, solidify his status as the best player ever to play SC2, go get his surgery and while he is recovering, help coach IM.

That'll keep him in touch with the metagame and then we can see the King return in full form.
W2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1177 Posts
October 08 2012 10:31 GMT
#164
what a ripoff of tossgirl lol. But I do enjoy these interviews, so not complaining
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ArtOfStyLe
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany51 Posts
October 08 2012 10:32 GMT
#165
GOGO MVP ur awsome !!!!
Hi there:)
DKR
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom622 Posts
October 08 2012 10:45 GMT
#166
It's crazy to think how good MVP would be if he didn't have these health issues. It's even crazier to consider he spent a couple of months being crap because he got a girlfriend. He'd have 6 titles if not for these issues ^^
"1 base. Cheese man." - MKP. "[MVP] is not stylistic, his style is winning, which is the style you want to have." - Artosis
Kontemptuous
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia132 Posts
October 08 2012 10:55 GMT
#167
On October 08 2012 19:31 W2 wrote:
what a ripoff of tossgirl lol. But I do enjoy these interviews, so not complaining

That's Stargirl >:D

Get better soon MVP ~ ♥
Zerg walks into a bar, sees the counter - and leaves.
skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
October 10 2012 13:16 GMT
#168
MVP the injured bonjwa
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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 14:20:50
October 10 2012 14:20 GMT
#169
If MVP wins finals now, he'd better quit for the sake of his health. Also, nice girl. I thought she was his gf before I realised she's the interviewer.
GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
October 10 2012 14:30 GMT
#170
MVP family man and total bawss. I met him at the GSL and he was a real gentleman.
Time is a great teacher, unfortunate that it kills all its pupils ...
ThreeActPlay
Profile Joined April 2011
United States249 Posts
October 10 2012 14:43 GMT
#171
Is that MVP's gf or the interviewer? Lol, so many pics of her and no mention of her in the interview :s
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BlindFremen
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 14:46:07
October 10 2012 14:45 GMT
#172
I don't understand how 3 months is such a big deal, especially for such a severe health condition. Professional athletes miss entire seasons due to injury, yet are able to compete again. MVP can still mostly keep up with the metagame even while he's not playing. His mechanics will suffer, but after a few weeks of practice he could be back in form. There is absolutely no reason to take such a big health risk, especially if he is in great pain and unhappiness already. MVP needs to take time off and get whatever surgeries and/or physical therapy is necessary.
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