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[Interview] LG-IM_Mvp Pt 2 - Neck Pains and Family - Page 6

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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
September 25 2012 03:59 GMT
#101
Ty for the translation.

As much as I love to watch Mvp play I would love to see him take some time off before Hots and work on getting closer to 100%. I guess i'll keep cheering for victories but if he loses it means he has more time to rest :/
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
September 25 2012 04:13 GMT
#102
There is very little time to rest in between the GSL seasons. Also, global tournaments are constantly going on. In addition, Kespa players have joined in the scene recently, and that makes it all the harder. If I rest for three months and then come back, I might as well have retired.


Unfortunately this is so true :< Some KeSPA players have already caught up and given a few months they'll definitely all be that more impressive. I think he should go get the treatment he needs though. He's had an amazing career in StarCraft II and I don't think he'll be able to take another GSL or something without being able to practice optimally so he might as well get his health in check before things decline. And who knows, maybe he'll even make a huge comeback after.
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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
September 25 2012 04:18 GMT
#103
This is straight up depressing. Happy about him being able to buy a house for a family, but all this retirement talk and his injury scares me. He really needs to get this sorted if it's as bad as he says, an eSports world without Mvp would be weird. :<
Long live the King of Wings
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 25 2012 04:21 GMT
#104
On September 25 2012 13:13 IcedBacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
There is very little time to rest in between the GSL seasons. Also, global tournaments are constantly going on. In addition, Kespa players have joined in the scene recently, and that makes it all the harder. If I rest for three months and then come back, I might as well have retired.


Unfortunately this is so true :< Some KeSPA players have already caught up and given a few months they'll definitely all be that more impressive. I think he should go get the treatment he needs though. He's had an amazing career in StarCraft II and I don't think he'll be able to take another GSL or something without being able to practice optimally so he might as well get his health in check before things decline. And who knows, maybe he'll even make a huge comeback after.


He can still win things even as he is right now, I think that's why he's not taking a break. He won GSL and IEM this year while heavily injured.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 25 2012 04:32 GMT
#105
I think that MVP should absolutely get an operation, and should get it now.

He is probably thinking to himself, that he has to choose a quiet (quiet Starcraft-wise) time to give him time to have an operation, and recover, but I would hazard that the best time is now. He should've chosen to have the operation a few months back, but I can understand him reluctance to leave during such an influx of new sc2 players (KeSPA). I don't think that he will find a better time than this, due to the fact that Wings Of Liberty is winding down, and Heart of the Swarm will reset the playing field Soon™. I also don't think that coming back is as difficult as most people think, mostly due to the speed the KeSPA player learned the game. So, it should be possible for him to regain his former level of skill, after recovering.

As I do not know the specifics of his medical condition, I cannot say for certain that the decision to operate now would be the best. However, MVP really should not leave something like this untreated, for his sake, and ours. Also, I don't believe that he can stay on top of the Starcraft 2 scene with decision making and build orders alone, and to get better he really needs this operation.

Regardless, <3 MVP, hope he gets better soon.
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 04:38:25
September 25 2012 04:36 GMT
#106
As a fan, sometimes I wish he would just get knocked out code S so he can focus on recovery. But clearly, at the top level of Starcraft, even resting for a couple months means you're way behind on the current meta game and will be out of shape on game mechanics.

I think the best time for him to take a break will be after this season of GSL. He will have a couple months to recover in time for Hots, then maybe he won't miss out as much.

It's pretty sad in the current state of e-sports, there is no "Off-Season" for a tournament as prestigious as the GSL
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aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
September 25 2012 05:10 GMT
#107
Mvp, take a break man! It's better for the future..
Mmm, what to watch.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20299 Posts
September 25 2012 05:18 GMT
#108
Whatever he chooses, MVP will always be remembered and in the hearts of many
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Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
September 25 2012 05:45 GMT
#109
MVP's interviews are always so depressing,
eSports for life.
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
September 25 2012 05:59 GMT
#110
He must do a serious surgery/take a long break. Please Mvp. Else you will just harm yourself constantly without progress.
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brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
September 25 2012 06:08 GMT
#111
Get well soon. This is why I love MVP. He's so inspring and down to earth.
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Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 25 2012 06:14 GMT
#112
I don't think what he says is true at all, when Mvp was in form - hell, when he WASN'T in form he can win GSLs - he DOMINATED EVERYTHING. Closest thing SC2 has ever had to bonjwa, and it SUCKS that injury restrained him from his full potential. Who knows really though, the KESPA players could get much much much better in 3-4 months of playing, as we have seen them get so good in just the short time they have had already, and Mvp would probably know best of all.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
September 25 2012 07:32 GMT
#113
Fantastic interview, thanks for the translation
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acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
September 25 2012 08:26 GMT
#114
If MVP wins a 5th GSL title with his current condition.....
Flowsick
Profile Joined June 2011
Estonia234 Posts
September 25 2012 09:48 GMT
#115
I really hope Mvp gets the treatment. Naturally his form would drop significantly, but I imagine the hunger and motivation you get from being away for a while along with feeling much much better physically would allow someone with such amazing talents as Mvp to bounce back. I know I wouldn't stop cheering him on if he did it. C'mon Mvp, your fans want to see you in tip-top shape. Take care of yourself man!
Gene(S)is
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden419 Posts
September 25 2012 09:58 GMT
#116
Thanks for the translation Weirdkid!
For the swarm
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
September 25 2012 10:05 GMT
#117
I really don't like the example IMMvP is setting. Your physical/mental health are #1.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 25 2012 11:32 GMT
#118
Comon MVP, do the surgery TT
I don't know why he thinks he can't come back if he chose to rest for a few month.
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
September 25 2012 11:46 GMT
#119
On September 25 2012 02:43 ACrow wrote:
Get a treatment, seriously. With the impeding switch to HotS he wouldn't even lose out too much by recovering three months. Health is sooooooo important...


Yeah, I agree. Someone tell that to MVP.

Plus, it's not like he can't catch up again easily.

It's not like you have to "keep up". Once you stop playing for (even) 5 months, you just get up to date on builds and everything and copy what everyone else is doing. Slowly learn about the new stuff.

Basically, like how KeSPA players caught up easily.

SC2 isn't really a game where if you start late, you can't "catch up". You just copy everyone's build, watch VODs, figure out what the new strategy and builds everyone are using and why, then you do it.
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Masayume
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Netherlands208 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 12:14:05
September 25 2012 12:13 GMT
#120
I have the same condition and neck injury as MVP, and a surgery is really risky and it only has a 50% chance to even help. He seems to be at the point where I am at now, where the pain is very severe all the time, and I can only say that I respect this man so much for having pushed through that pain.

The best way to treat this problem is by a heavy treatment program from a chiropractor, coupled with lots of special exercises, a lot of icing and rest.

Having been disabled by this condition for 2 years now, and finally recovering, I truly hope that he takes the time between now and HotS coming out to start his treatment. He is a true champion and his reasons for fighting are to be admired. Please take care of your body MVP, before it will become too severe and you spend the rest of your life crippled, like my mother who has an advanced stage of this.
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