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On September 01 2012 08:15 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 08:14 strongandbig wrote:On September 01 2012 08:03 Palmar wrote: ##vote mementoss ##vote palmarLike, the number of times people have told me that "being lazy" is palmar's scum meta... I can't really accept missing the whole first day and then jumping back in with the most random freaking unreasoned explicit sheep vote I've ever seen. I'm not really concerned at the moment with "viable candidates". I don't think any of the main cases are stronger than my gut reaction to what palmar just did. If this is "a trap" palmar, then consider yourself successful, you caught me. By playing as scummy as possible, you trapped me and convinced me that you are scum. Huzzah. Now, I'm going to bed. See you guys tomorrow if I live. town Palmar..... LIV
Hiro read what I just posted. Scum Palmar would want you to think just that. Then again, maybe it's town Palmar being town Palmar. Who knows?
He's doing it because he can, because in the past he's been able to get away with bad play like this. People like you enable him to have free reign in games, regardless of alignment.
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On September 01 2012 08:13 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 08:10 BlackMamba24 wrote: Things must have really changed in TL Mafia if I'm getting bandwagoned for saying I don't like lynch all lurkers and no one responds to the scumtell that when I used to play was typically the one that myself and most veteran players jumped all over on day 1?? Stop it. You don't have a "bandwagon" on you. Second of all, you're pretending like that case of yours never existed. what the one against you? how am i pretending it doesnt exist
it's day 1 and i had like what 2-3 votes against me pretty recently, that's a bandwagon isn't it? for someone who wants me lynched so bad and is so sure i'm scum you should stop wasting your time attacking everything I say and try to rally the troops
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On September 01 2012 08:18 BlackMamba24 wrote: lol @ people voting for palmar
You wanna actually say something useful?
Oh just hopping on the Palmar is Palmar is Palmar lets give him a wash so he can bullshit every game he's in.
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On September 01 2012 08:15 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 08:14 strongandbig wrote:On September 01 2012 08:03 Palmar wrote: ##vote mementoss ##vote palmarLike, the number of times people have told me that "being lazy" is palmar's scum meta... I can't really accept missing the whole first day and then jumping back in with the most random freaking unreasoned explicit sheep vote I've ever seen. I'm not really concerned at the moment with "viable candidates". I don't think any of the main cases are stronger than my gut reaction to what palmar just did. If this is "a trap" palmar, then consider yourself successful, you caught me. By playing as scummy as possible, you trapped me and convinced me that you are scum. Huzzah. Now, I'm going to bed. See you guys tomorrow if I live. town Palmar..... LIV
Lol I forgot that game, he clearly has me red on his map from day 1.
The difference between this game and that game is huge though. That game, he probably wanted to act useless so he didn't get killed night 1 by scum, and than come into the thread with some good reads when more information is available. There is no excuse this game though because its controlled completely by lynches with no night phase. So it's really confusing to me why he would join the game and play useless.
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On September 01 2012 07:59 HiroPro wrote: hey shady, I'd like if you could make a response to MT's case.
Sure.
MT's case on me is based on a misread of my reasons for calling him scum. He thinks I'm calling him scum for pushing a lynch lurker policy. I'm not. I never had a chance to offer my reasoning on calling him scum; that's why I never voted him.
My prior scumread on him was based on his "all-over-the-place" case. He's explained that already. My read on him is closer to null now.
As for his accusations here:
Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 04:40 Shady Sands wrote: Alright, enough of this bullshit.
## Vote Node
Until he posts. I'm also amenable to a wagon on Zentor.
As for Momen, I want to his response. As for BlackMamba, I haven't had a chance to read through his filter yet. Will check thread again 5 hours from now. Wait isn't this also what the case on me said. Voting someone to get discussion out of someone? So Shady is being very hypocritical calling me scum for things he is doing as well. He doesn't even know BMB's filter, its only been 12 pages for the whole game, and BMB has been the main discussion for the whole time. He doesn't know about the main day 1 discussion? Does he care? He asks me for a response, but never specifies what this response is. He also says he will wagon on Zentor. Wow. So he has a scum read on me, but hes willing to vote on Node or Zentor, and has BMB in his mind. Wow Shady is sure keeping his options open.. So MKfuba you better have a better reason for voting me, other than I seem indifferent for who gets lynched, when you have Slim Shady over here voting anyone who is the popular choice at the time. So everyone who voted me, why don't you explain why you think I'm scum, rather than just regergitate what I posted and tell people what you think it meant? How is what I posted scum motivated etc?
I voted Node because I was pissed that he wasn't making a single post in a game with a 24 hour day. That's not just anti-town play; it's pretty much playing against town wincon. As for Zentor, he was active lurking at the time. Didn't like how he was posting, so I thought I'd nudge him. Wasn't worth a vote yet. As for BMB, I honestly hadn't read through his filter yet, but people kept bringing him up in the discussion so I thought I should. Now that I have, I have a mild town read on BMB.
Since I honestly hadn't been able to keep up with the game, I thought I should just lay some names on the table. If you've seen my activity levels both as scum and town before, you'll know that if I'm in the thread I'm usually posting or prodding.
Anyhow, we need to lynch Ghost. He's pretty much been lurking about the thread and seeming active, but posting in a completely unproductive and "trying to gain towncred" manner. Furthermore, his MMToss vote is just bad. It's almost there to make it seem like he's not sheeping, when in reality he is.
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On September 01 2012 08:18 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 08:15 HiroPro wrote:On September 01 2012 08:14 strongandbig wrote:On September 01 2012 08:03 Palmar wrote: ##vote mementoss ##vote palmarLike, the number of times people have told me that "being lazy" is palmar's scum meta... I can't really accept missing the whole first day and then jumping back in with the most random freaking unreasoned explicit sheep vote I've ever seen. I'm not really concerned at the moment with "viable candidates". I don't think any of the main cases are stronger than my gut reaction to what palmar just did. If this is "a trap" palmar, then consider yourself successful, you caught me. By playing as scummy as possible, you trapped me and convinced me that you are scum. Huzzah. Now, I'm going to bed. See you guys tomorrow if I live. town Palmar..... LIV Hiro read what I just posted. Scum Palmar would want you to think just that. Then again, maybe it's town Palmar being town Palmar. Who knows? He's doing it because he can, because in the past he's been able to get away with bad play like this. People like you enable him to have free reign in games, regardless of alignment.
I am not lynching the best scumhunter in this game because he likes to troll d1. We lynch him later if he doesn't find scum, not because we don't like the way he plays.
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On September 01 2012 08:19 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 08:18 BlackMamba24 wrote: lol @ people voting for palmar You wanna actually say something useful? Oh just hopping on the Palmar is Palmar is Palmar lets give him a wash so he can bullshit every game he's in. You're voting for Palmar because you dislike him, not because you think he's scum. This doesn't even warrant a discussion. It's just noise.
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what the one against you? how am i pretending it doesnt exist
You said that you're getting voted because you're criticizing the lurker-policy lynch. Oh whoops wait no ppl are voting for you 'cause of your shitty case.
Misrespresentation at its finest. Can we invoke lynch all liars here?
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Seriously guys. Discussing Palmar's WIFOM is going to get us nowhere because people can chew on WIFOM all day without putting their necks on the line and offering reads.
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On September 01 2012 08:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 08:19 Risen wrote:On September 01 2012 08:18 BlackMamba24 wrote: lol @ people voting for palmar You wanna actually say something useful? Oh just hopping on the Palmar is Palmar is Palmar lets give him a wash so he can bullshit every game he's in. You're voting for Palmar because you dislike him, not because you think he's scum. This doesn't even warrant a discussion. It's just noise. Are you BMB?
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On September 01 2012 08:20 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 08:18 Risen wrote:On September 01 2012 08:15 HiroPro wrote:On September 01 2012 08:14 strongandbig wrote:On September 01 2012 08:03 Palmar wrote: ##vote mementoss ##vote palmarLike, the number of times people have told me that "being lazy" is palmar's scum meta... I can't really accept missing the whole first day and then jumping back in with the most random freaking unreasoned explicit sheep vote I've ever seen. I'm not really concerned at the moment with "viable candidates". I don't think any of the main cases are stronger than my gut reaction to what palmar just did. If this is "a trap" palmar, then consider yourself successful, you caught me. By playing as scummy as possible, you trapped me and convinced me that you are scum. Huzzah. Now, I'm going to bed. See you guys tomorrow if I live. town Palmar..... LIV Hiro read what I just posted. Scum Palmar would want you to think just that. Then again, maybe it's town Palmar being town Palmar. Who knows? He's doing it because he can, because in the past he's been able to get away with bad play like this. People like you enable him to have free reign in games, regardless of alignment. I am not lynching the best scumhunter in this game because he likes to troll d1. We lynch him later if he doesn't find scum, not because we don't like the way he plays.
Yes, let the bad player continue to get day 1 washes bc he's the best the best the best.
Screw him if he's town. Stop screwing around in games Palmar.
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On September 01 2012 08:23 Hapahauli wrote:You said that you're getting voted because you're criticizing the lurker-policy lynch. Oh whoops wait no ppl are voting for you 'cause of your shitty case. Misrespresentation at its finest. Can we invoke lynch all liars here? Hapa can you read my ghost case? Please?
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On September 01 2012 08:25 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 08:23 Hapahauli wrote:what the one against you? how am i pretending it doesnt exist You said that you're getting voted because you're criticizing the lurker-policy lynch. Oh whoops wait no ppl are voting for you 'cause of your shitty case. Misrespresentation at its finest. Can we invoke lynch all liars here? Hapa can you read my ghost case? Please?
Oh sure - will get to that now. Got caught up a bit in other things in the thread.
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On September 01 2012 08:23 Hapahauli wrote:You said that you're getting voted because you're criticizing the lurker-policy lynch. Oh whoops wait no ppl are voting for you 'cause of your shitty case. Misrespresentation at its finest. Can we invoke lynch all liars here?
Saying I didn't like lurker policy lynches was the catalyst for you to jump on me all over again. You quoted that part of my post and acted like it was the thing that made you so sure now that I'm scum.
You voted for me originally because I made a case on you like 5 hours into the day (I wonder why it wasn't totally substantiated, I wanted to pluck down a vote for someone before I went to bed at least).
For the last however many pages, you've only been attacking me over the policy lynch situation and because you don't think my suspicion on SNB was valid. I usually scumhunt by looking for the players who appear to be trying hardest to look like townies, if you don't think that's valid then I don't mind that but now calling me a liar because I'm not having the conversation you want me to have is stupid.
I'm done talking with you because it's a waste of my time so you can try to get everyone else to vote for me if you want but I can see this isn't going to go anywhere.
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On September 01 2012 08:20 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 08:18 Risen wrote:On September 01 2012 08:15 HiroPro wrote:On September 01 2012 08:14 strongandbig wrote:On September 01 2012 08:03 Palmar wrote: ##vote mementoss ##vote palmarLike, the number of times people have told me that "being lazy" is palmar's scum meta... I can't really accept missing the whole first day and then jumping back in with the most random freaking unreasoned explicit sheep vote I've ever seen. I'm not really concerned at the moment with "viable candidates". I don't think any of the main cases are stronger than my gut reaction to what palmar just did. If this is "a trap" palmar, then consider yourself successful, you caught me. By playing as scummy as possible, you trapped me and convinced me that you are scum. Huzzah. Now, I'm going to bed. See you guys tomorrow if I live. town Palmar..... LIV Hiro read what I just posted. Scum Palmar would want you to think just that. Then again, maybe it's town Palmar being town Palmar. Who knows? He's doing it because he can, because in the past he's been able to get away with bad play like this. People like you enable him to have free reign in games, regardless of alignment. I am not lynching the best scumhunter in this game because he likes to troll d1. We lynch him later if he doesn't find scum, not because we don't like the way he plays.
No.
If somebody acts like mafia, they get lynched.
I'm not going to delay the lynching of a mafia, just because you're afraid of lynching a veteran.
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And can we cut out the shit about Palmar? Exactly what does this do to catch scum? Grow a pair and vote him or don't.
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On September 01 2012 08:20 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 08:18 Risen wrote:On September 01 2012 08:15 HiroPro wrote:On September 01 2012 08:14 strongandbig wrote:On September 01 2012 08:03 Palmar wrote: ##vote mementoss ##vote palmarLike, the number of times people have told me that "being lazy" is palmar's scum meta... I can't really accept missing the whole first day and then jumping back in with the most random freaking unreasoned explicit sheep vote I've ever seen. I'm not really concerned at the moment with "viable candidates". I don't think any of the main cases are stronger than my gut reaction to what palmar just did. If this is "a trap" palmar, then consider yourself successful, you caught me. By playing as scummy as possible, you trapped me and convinced me that you are scum. Huzzah. Now, I'm going to bed. See you guys tomorrow if I live. town Palmar..... LIV Hiro read what I just posted. Scum Palmar would want you to think just that. Then again, maybe it's town Palmar being town Palmar. Who knows? He's doing it because he can, because in the past he's been able to get away with bad play like this. People like you enable him to have free reign in games, regardless of alignment. I am not lynching the best scumhunter in this game because he likes to troll d1. We lynch him later if he doesn't find scum, not because we don't like the way he plays.
Hiro, now that I've done what you asked me to and responded to MT, what is your read on Ghost?
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Ok I'm done. Nothing ever changes in these games because you all just let shitty play happeen. Meta shift from Risen inc. I'm going to start trolling and then once in a while I'll post an awesome case so I get supported by anecdote.
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On September 01 2012 08:28 Risen wrote: Ok I'm done. Nothing ever changes in these games because you all just let shitty play happeen. Meta shift from Risen inc. I'm going to start trolling and then once in a while I'll post an awesome case so I get supported by anecdote. Noooooooooooooooo quit flaming people and read my case, stay rational. I fucking hate trolls too, but leaning on them D1 usually only gives scum cover for a mislynch
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On September 01 2012 08:19 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2012 08:15 HiroPro wrote:On September 01 2012 08:14 strongandbig wrote:On September 01 2012 08:03 Palmar wrote: ##vote mementoss ##vote palmarLike, the number of times people have told me that "being lazy" is palmar's scum meta... I can't really accept missing the whole first day and then jumping back in with the most random freaking unreasoned explicit sheep vote I've ever seen. I'm not really concerned at the moment with "viable candidates". I don't think any of the main cases are stronger than my gut reaction to what palmar just did. If this is "a trap" palmar, then consider yourself successful, you caught me. By playing as scummy as possible, you trapped me and convinced me that you are scum. Huzzah. Now, I'm going to bed. See you guys tomorrow if I live. town Palmar..... LIV Lol I forgot that game, he clearly has me red on his map from day 1. The difference between this game and that game is huge though. That game, he probably wanted to act useless so he didn't get killed night 1 by scum, and than come into the thread with some good reads when more information is available. There is no excuse this game though because its controlled completely by lynches with no night phase. So it's really confusing to me why he would join the game and play useless.
MMT: you posted a little bit about how bad the cases on you were. I used what you posted and expanded it on Ghost. Can you please read that case?
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