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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On September 01 2012 08:50 Hapahauli wrote: Hmm... where's our friend SolarSail? and hopeless hasnt been around in ages either | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
On September 01 2012 08:40 HiroPro wrote: ghost, what do you think of his second response? Reading it the way I think it's meant to be read, I think it's gibberish. Is that really what MMToss was trying to get across?  | ||
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BioSC
United States636 Posts
Mr Zentor (0) - Hapahauli (0) - Hopeless1der (0) - BlackMamba24 (2) - Mementoss (3) - Node (0) - Palmar (3) - Mr Zentor, Strongandbig, Risen Shady Sands(1) - Ghost_403(1) - Shady Sands Not Voting: SolarSail, Node, hopeless1der, Hapahauli, mkfuba07, HiroPro. Currently, Mementoss is set to be lynched (First to 3). Deadline is set at 21:30 CDT (-05:00). A bit under 3 hours to vote. A reminder that voting is mandatory, and you can't vote for yourself. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
For being useless. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On September 01 2012 08:52 ghost_403 wrote: Reading it the way I think it's meant to be read, I think it's gibberish. Is that really what MMToss was trying to get across? Those two secondary quotes are what hapahauli said (what MT considered the soft defenses). Then... you vote Mr.Zentor for lurking? What? What does voting MrZentor even do, when you find other people suspicious? | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On September 01 2012 08:53 Hapahauli wrote: ##Vote SolarSail For being useless. I think hes going to be modkilled :S Like a lot of people. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + or I'll kill you | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
He's the only guy who's been useless and isn't heading for a modkill. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On September 01 2012 08:58 MrZentor wrote: Mhmmm....suuureee......... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625¤tpage=19#379 On September 01 2012 08:45 Hapahauli wrote: ##Unvote BlackMamba24 I think I've seen enough. Responses/emotional-defense seem townie to me. Attitudes to his previous case also seem townie enough. TBH, I'm tempted to lynch Palmar on the basis that he actually gave a shit as town in Normal Mini III. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
On September 01 2012 01:21 Mementoss wrote: I'm not too fond of the way ghost has been defending mamba at every chance he gets. It's fine to defend a player if you don't think they're town but leave it at that. Cause when he comes back to the thread he can just mirror the things that ghost said to defend him, or otherwise there is at least a lot less pressure on him to give an adquete response about his case and such. That being said, most of ghosts talk so far has been on this, so I would like to ask him if he had to make a vote now, who would it be and why? My opinion on this BMB fiasco is that he seems a bit scummy to me. His posts just rub me the wrong way and his case was bad. I'm not going to go much farther into this as it's already been fleshed out by many but I'll be interested in seeing a response from him. The way he talks about his personal scum preferences is odd, and the question to the hosts could just be a scam to make himself look town, when he actually knew the answer because he received this fake role. I think the case was bad and forced from a scum perspective because if you look through his early filter he realized he was talking a lot, but it was purely filler, and was scared of getting called out on it soon, so he decided to make a case up so no one would call him out for "contributing without actually saying much". I agree that Risen's play is not his normal town play, of guns blazing and doing crazy shit to get reactions out. If we are going to set the tone here that lurking is unacceptable as town we might as well start day one, and try to set ourselves up for a winning situation later in the game. Also based on his less than stellar game history... So for now.. ##Vote: Mr.Zentor Also I think that people should be giving their gut thoughts and put in a vote at the start of each day, so we can discuss our way through the best person for the lynch throughout the day. People don't seem to realize how short a 24 hour cycle is, so getting a vote in ASAP is important for discussion and consolidation on voting out a scum. Obviously this is impossible to do on day 1, but I think it should be done for further days. This is the post done by Mementoss that makes me think that he's scum. Take a close look at what he's saying in this post.
To the first point, he points out that I've been defending BMB, which is not true. I've been trying to force a discussion about BMB with the people who have been voting BMB. I specifically point that out in this post and this post. Look at what he said real carefully. It's not that he disagrees with what I did. I think he's misrepresenting what I've done in the game up until this point in order to undermine my position in the town. Reading his position on BMB, you realize that he's all over the place in his read. "bit scummy", "make himself look town", "the case was bad and forced from a scum perspective"... All of this would make you think that given a bullet, he'd shoot BMB dead. So why isn't he voting BMB, or at the very least pressuring on him hard? If I was that convinced someone was scum, I'm going to do everything I can to make him sweat bullets and get him lynched. MMToss just kind of admits it, and leaves it hanging. Next, Risen is a bit off. Everyone said that. Next! Finally, he votes Zentor. His vote on Zentor isn't based around the fact that he think's he is scum, he's simply voting for him because he feels compelled to vote. I don't see him putting a lot of thought into his vote, which is exactly what a mediocre scum player does. TL;DR - I think MMToss is scum because of this post. I'm going to be rather upset if the town lets him off the hook. | ||
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BlackMamba24
United States277 Posts
In Arkham he even lied about being the leader of the scum team just to fuck with people and iirc he was town (or maybe third party) in that. Hapahauli, reread MMtoss's defense. Is it really convincing? He doesn't defend himself so much as he attacks Shady Sands (while not voting for him or accusing him, odd.) who in my mind is one of the most obviously town players here. He just says what he's doing isn't scummy but I really don't agree. The way he throws his "reads" (i.e. always useless scummy fluff shit) into a case which is a bad case to begin with is completely off-base. This could be a case of bad town, it's Day 1 we statistically are almost sure to lynch a townie today, but at least it's something. Palmar gives us nothing. The flip is useless. This is a policy "I don't like Palmar" vote. The only "case" against him is a lazy meta read. Even if Mementoss flips town we have another thing to consider when going back through Day 1 and reading peoples posts. Palmar is a bad vote. The worst vote. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On September 01 2012 09:05 BlackMamba24 wrote: I think you should reconsider voting for Palmar. I've played with him quite a few times and being super arrogant and even lurking 100% aren't abnormal for him as town on Day 1. He is extremely valuable down the line if he is town and not too hard to deal with if he isn't. In Arkham he even lied about being the leader of the scum team just to fuck with people and iirc he was town (or maybe third party) in that. Hapahauli, reread MMtoss's defense. Is it really convincing? He doesn't defend himself so much as he attacks Shady Sands (while not voting for him or accusing him, odd.) who in my mind is one of the most obviously town players here. He just says what he's doing isn't scummy but I really don't agree. The way he throws his "reads" (i.e. always useless scummy fluff shit) into a case which is a bad case to begin with is completely off-base. This could be a case of bad town, it's Day 1 we statistically are almost sure to lynch a townie today, but at least it's something. Palmar gives us nothing. The flip is useless. This is a policy "I don't like Palmar" vote. The only "case" against him is a lazy meta read. Even if Mementoss flips town we have another thing to consider when going back through Day 1 and reading peoples posts. Palmar is a bad vote. The worst vote. Guess ya dropped the SnB thing completely eh? | ||
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BlackMamba24
United States277 Posts
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