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On August 06 2012 21:44 Left4Cookies wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 21:17 Diks wrote: I want to see Mars in 1080p !! I hope NASA will release a live stream with the view from the cameras It's only got a 720p camera though . The next rover will hopefully have a 3D IMAX camera. Still better quality than most SC2 tournament streams.
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On August 06 2012 23:55 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 21:44 Left4Cookies wrote:On August 06 2012 21:17 Diks wrote: I want to see Mars in 1080p !! I hope NASA will release a live stream with the view from the cameras It's only got a 720p camera though . The next rover will hopefully have a 3D IMAX camera. Still better quality than most SC2 tournament streams. And broadcasted with less of a delay than NBC has on the Olympics. We need to hire NASA for everything A/V related.
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On August 07 2012 00:11 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 23:55 Probe1 wrote:On August 06 2012 21:44 Left4Cookies wrote:On August 06 2012 21:17 Diks wrote: I want to see Mars in 1080p !! I hope NASA will release a live stream with the view from the cameras It's only got a 720p camera though . The next rover will hopefully have a 3D IMAX camera. Still better quality than most SC2 tournament streams. And broadcasted with less of a delay than NBC has on the Olympics. We need to hire NASA for everything A/V related.
Yeah tbqh the live stream and production during last night's landing has to have been a first for space exploration as well. The content was almost as impressive as the mission itself....ALMOST
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Anybody who brings the argument "this is a waste of money, it could be spent better on earth" is massively shortsighted.
For starters, NASA has the smallest budget of any major federal agency. The Olympics cost three times as much as the Curiosity mission. Simply put, NASA doesn't get a lot of money. We could triple its budget and it would STILL be small potatoes as government agencies go.
NASA employs some of the world's smartest engineers, and asks them to solve problems that literally nobody has ever solved before, and to accomplish things so incredible they boggle the mind. In two years they have more than halved the size of the landing ellipse. If you don't know what that means, look it up. It's freaking incredible.
What do you think happens when you take a bunch of really smart engineers and tell them to solve a problem? A bunch of problems pop up along the way, and the engineers solve those too. When they solve those problems, the rest of us get a bunch of really incredible technology. NASA doesn't keep it for themselves. These technologies create new industries. New jobs.
You want to get out of a global recession? Advance. You want to advance? Do something you've never done before.
I can't believe anybody could be so shortsighted as to say funding NASA would not directly benefit everyone on the planet. They literally have no idea what they're saying.
Edit: Seriously though, read that technology link. It's a list (no idea if comprehensive) of uses that people have found for technologies pioneered by NASA. Read that, and then come back and tell me that NASA is a waste of money, ever.
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I totally agree with person above me in that new technologies are only thing that can drive us out of depression at this point. Consider how fast after war Japan grew. Consider how fast China is/was growing. Common factor is that both of those countries were behind technologically and were able to import a crap ton of technology - hence massive growth. This is established fact. See this doc for more info on that: http://faculty-staff.ou.edu/K/Benjamin.D.Keen-1/Lect05.pdf .
The thing about scientists is that when organized correctly and given sufficient budget the amount of advancement/knowledge received per each additional scientist is non linear because of knowledge sharing. Faster advancement leads to better technologies and those enable faster technology development.
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On August 06 2012 14:54 Poyo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 14:53 enemy2010 wrote: LOL
"....something something 4.7 degrees." Random guy: "YES!"
I love science! :D :D :D Haha yeah one guy knew what that meant on the planet lol.
Pretty sure those were the landing coordinates, and one guy quickly did the math how close to target they landed. They cut out right after that, but it sounded like they were about 2 kilometers from targeted landing site.
Edit: Press Conference going on right now at http://www.ustream.tv/NASAJPL
Edit 2: check this out, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter took a picture of the landing MSL with the parachute deployed:
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Mind doing a quick tldr afterwards if you watch it? Unable to watch right now but I am too excited about this thing lol
Also does anyone know when they'll have signals from the rover again/new pics etc?
BTW this is pretty awesome if you wanna check out where the thing landed etc:http://www.google.com/mars/
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On August 07 2012 01:10 Alvin853 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 14:54 Poyo wrote:On August 06 2012 14:53 enemy2010 wrote: LOL
"....something something 4.7 degrees." Random guy: "YES!"
I love science! :D :D :D Haha yeah one guy knew what that meant on the planet lol. Pretty sure those were the landing coordinates, and one guy quickly did the math how close to target they landed. They cut out right after that, but it sounded like they were about 2 kilometers from targeted landing site. Edit: Press Conference going on right now at http://www.ustream.tv/NASAJPLEdit 2: check this out, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter took a picture of the landing MSL with the parachute deployed:
Awesome awesome picture.
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that video they just played was sick, i'm looking for links i'll post if i can find em
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On August 07 2012 01:56 AlgeriaT wrote:Mind doing a quick tldr afterwards if you watch it? Unable to watch right now but I am too excited about this thing lol Also does anyone know when they'll have signals from the rover again/new pics etc? Sure, Q&A is almost over, so I'll do a quick summary:
First section was about the landing location and orientation of the rover:
The front of the rover is oriented towards the northwest, and the camera is showing the edge of Gale Crater
The back camera is showing the shadow of Curiosity on mars surface, as well as the black dunes and possibly the flank of Mt. Sharp:
They stated the rover is almost level, tilted slightly to the front and to one side, but less than 3 degrees off level. This also means the ground is good enough to support the 1 ton rover without sinking in, so moving around should not be a problem.
Then they talked about the MRO, the picture I already linked, and the job MRO and other orbiters will be doing to relay signals from Curiosity, but also help navigating by mapping out the surrounding area. They hope to take pictures of the landing site within a week, also looking for the other parts of the landing vessel around the landing zone.
Next up is the deployment of the high gain antenna around 11am MSL local time, I don't know how that converts to Earth time, but it's approx 8 hours from now. Then they will be able to get better resolution pictures from the rover, and more science data. So far they checked all the basic systems, and all of the parameters are within safe ranges. Some values are slightly different than expected, and they are looking into that, but nothing alarming that would prevent them from continuing as planned. All of the science equipment is electrically working fine, one of the cameras shows dust under the dust cover, but they hope it will be blown away by winds eventually.
There will be another press conference 4pm PDT today, hopefully presenting new pictures, as well as daily conferences in the morning. They expect to get the pictures from MARDI, the descent imager during mars landing from 3.7km to just before touchdown showing the exact landing location and surroundings for the 4pm press conference.
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On August 07 2012 01:10 Alvin853 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 14:54 Poyo wrote:On August 06 2012 14:53 enemy2010 wrote: LOL
"....something something 4.7 degrees." Random guy: "YES!"
I love science! :D :D :D Haha yeah one guy knew what that meant on the planet lol. Pretty sure those were the landing coordinates, and one guy quickly did the math how close to target they landed. They cut out right after that, but it sounded like they were about 2 kilometers from targeted landing site. Edit: Press Conference going on right now at http://www.ustream.tv/NASAJPLEdit 2: check this out, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter took a picture of the landing MSL with the parachute deployed:
holy fuck thats cool
i wish i could be in mars to see that shit land
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aren't 200+ mph winds common on mars? there is no telling when curiosity can be blown to pieces
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On August 07 2012 02:29 biology]major wrote: aren't 200+ mph winds common on mars? there is no telling when curiosity can be blown to pieces
They do a shit ton of testing to ensure that the rover can survive the conditions of Mars.
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On August 07 2012 01:10 Alvin853 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 14:54 Poyo wrote:On August 06 2012 14:53 enemy2010 wrote: LOL
"....something something 4.7 degrees." Random guy: "YES!"
I love science! :D :D :D Haha yeah one guy knew what that meant on the planet lol. Pretty sure those were the landing coordinates, and one guy quickly did the math how close to target they landed. They cut out right after that, but it sounded like they were about 2 kilometers from targeted landing site. Edit: Press Conference going on right now at http://www.ustream.tv/NASAJPLEdit 2: check this out, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter took a picture of the landing MSL with the parachute deployed: That picture is almost too good to be true.
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Whenever I hear anything about Mars, the line "Red Rocks yyyyaaaaaahhhh Yyyyyyyyahhh" from the Dave chappelle show come to mind.
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On August 07 2012 02:28 Alvin853 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2012 01:56 AlgeriaT wrote:Mind doing a quick tldr afterwards if you watch it? Unable to watch right now but I am too excited about this thing lol Also does anyone know when they'll have signals from the rover again/new pics etc? Sure, Q&A is almost over, so I'll do a quick summary: First section was about the landing location and orientation of the rover: The front of the rover is oriented towards the northwest, and the camera is showing the edge of Gale Crater The back camera is showing the shadow of Curiosity on mars surface, as well as the black dunes and possibly the flank of Mt. Sharp: They stated the rover is almost level, tilted slightly to the front and to one side, but less than 3 degrees off level. This also means the ground is good enough to support the 1 ton rover without sinking in, so moving around should not be a problem. Then they talked about the MRO, the picture I already linked, and the job MRO and other orbiters will be doing to relay signals from Curiosity, but also help navigating by mapping out the surrounding area. They hope to take pictures of the landing site within a week, also looking for the other parts of the landing vessel around the landing zone. Next up is the deployment of the high gain antenna around 11am MSL local time, I don't know how that converts to Earth time, but it's approx 8 hours from now. Then they will be able to get better resolution pictures from the rover, and more science data. So far they checked all the basic systems, and all of the parameters are within safe ranges. Some values are slightly different than expected, and they are looking into that, but nothing alarming that would prevent them from continuing as planned. All of the science equipment is electrically working fine, one of the cameras shows dust under the dust cover, but they hope it will be blown away by winds eventually. There will be another press conference 4pm PDT today, hopefully presenting new pictures, as well as daily conferences in the morning. They expect to get the pictures from MARDI, the descent imager during mars landing from 3.7km to just before touchdown showing the exact landing location and surroundings for the 4pm press conference. Thanks a lot man, very cool of you to put together this summary
Fingers crossed for the antenna then... Shit, I am going to spend a lot of time following this thing. I can't imagine how much ulcer medicine is being consumed in that control room right now.
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