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keyStorm
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FallenStar
Spain118 Posts
Ah, of all the words I've heard in relation to math, something that isn't required in nearly any of the world's jobs, practical is one I've not heard. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/TFMUx.jpg) User was warned for this post | ||
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Candadar
2049 Posts
On August 07 2012 07:19 Nanikure wrote: Don't worry xrapture, I'll drop an extra $7 to NASA so you can get yours back to solve poverty with. I agree. Who the fuck would want to spend $7 to go to mars. Such a fucking ripoff, I could be buying a #1 at Chic' Fil A with that instead. Fucking greedy government. | ||
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BuddhaMonk
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On August 07 2012 06:53 xrapture wrote: It's funny that you posted that picture. Do you know how "inspiring" the Statue of Liberty and the Eiffel Tower are today? They are nothing more than tourist attractions. And I'd be more than happy to see the Pyramids destroyed. Why preserve "wonders" that are a testament to slavery? You speak a lot about the importance of inspiring future children to be scientists, mathematics, and engineers. Doesn't that seem like a selfish motive-- hoping impressionable children are manipulated into becoming slaves to the scientific community? " inspire the youth to do practical things like engineering and math and science" Ah, of all the words I've heard in relation to math, something that isn't required in nearly any of the world's jobs, practical is one I've not heard. And $2.5 billion to look at rocks on Mars is practical to you? I think you need to look up the definition of the word. Yea, ok we spend too much money on the military, I've heard that argument many times. But, is that seriously your argument? People say the Rover is a waste of money and you point the finger to something else? That is not how you argue and it's immature to be honest, but I'll bite. Look, technology and society is evolving at an exponentially faster rate than humanity. We are just smart monkies, after all. We have animalistic instincts, carnal desires, and we are all utterly selfish. Look at the most powerful and successful nations in the world's history: The United States, Great Britian, and Rome. Wars sculpted these countries and will always be a part of the world as long as primitive creatures like humans rule it. If man steps foot on Mars it will be the equivalent of moving a fraction of a nano-meter from the Earth's surface (in relation to the universe). Sorry if I'm not inspired by that. If man makes the world self sustainable-- yes that will be inspiring. So I guess you can lump me in with all the people that say that we should fix our world's problems before embarking on huge scientific endeavors. Of course I know crime or poverty can never be completely eliminated, but imagine if the entire world was like most of Europe. Can we aim for that? Can we aim for a low birth rate and a very small amount of starving citizens before we spend billions to look at rocks? You know what biggest problem in the U.S. is? The economy. You know what is a good way to improve the economy? Provide good jobs for Americans. You know what a good way to provide jobs for Americans is? Fund NASA. If the U.S. slashes its military budget in the upcoming "fiscal cliff" the CBO says that the U.S. will fall back into a recession. The reason is because the government provides many many jobs to Americans. NASA falls into this category. Another reason is that we've seen throughout the course of history that investing in R&D improves the lives of everyday people in ways that are unimaginable at the time of investment. You can see a long list of technologies that came about because of R&D in NASA's space program: http://spinoff.nasa.gov/spinoff/spinsearch?BOOL=AND&ALLFIELDS=&CENTER=&BOOLM=AND&MANUFACT=&STATE=&CATEGORY=&ISSUE=&Spinsort=ISSUED Not included in this list are all the innovations that are used by the military (X-37B for example). And if you're seriously saying that engineering is not a practical field, I just have to shake my head at your ignorance. Slaves to science? That's not even a coherent statement. America's success in the 20th century was largely due to technological and scientific advancements. Are you suggesting that should be thrown out the window? Isn't it funny that you argue that a paltry 2.5 billion should be spent to "fix the world's problems" yet the reality is that throwing money around does not simply solve the world's problems. One of the great lessons about all the aid given to Africa was that it wasn't really about the amount of money that was given, there were so many other factors out there that meant all the massive amounts of money given to poor African countries did not lead these countries out of poverty. Your sentiment doesn't recognize this fact. You should take your own advice and bring something concrete to the table instead of pointing to some vague notion of "solving the world's problems" as if it were a simple task that just a couple of billions of dollars can solve. On top of it all, like others have said, there's the national pride and inspirational arguments as well. You should get real and come up with some real arguments. | ||
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keyStorm
Canada316 Posts
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POiNTx
Belgium309 Posts
On August 07 2012 07:55 keyStorm wrote: yes! news briefing coming up in 5minutes ! :D Link! | ||
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Arghmyliver
United States1081 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
On August 07 2012 06:53 xrapture wrote: " inspire the youth to do practical things like engineering and math and science" Ah, of all the words I've heard in relation to math, something that isn't required in nearly any of the world's jobs, practical is one I've not heard. . Are you fucking serious ? O_O Lost all credibility. Look, technology and society is evolving at an exponentially faster rate than humanity. We are just smart monkies, after all. We have animalistic instincts, carnal desires, and we are all utterly selfish. Look at the most powerful and successful nations in the world's history: The United States, Great Britian, and Rome. Wars sculpted these countries and will always be a part of the world as long as primitive creatures like humans rule it. "Wars have always been around, we should continue then ! Its a tradition thing". And then goes on to say a fraction of percent dedicated to science is a waste and should be thrown into helping poverty. Can't believe I'm reading this, I'm crying a little inside. | ||
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Kitsune14
Canada51 Posts
Ah, of all the words I've heard in relation to math, something that isn't required in nearly any of the world's jobs, practical is one I've not heard. This sentence is so easy to pick on. I swear to you, I'm actually having difficulties finding a job as a video game programmer because I neglected math before (I have decent skills in math). Many of the jobs in that industry requires "Strong Math Skills" in the job description. I should have taken this notice more seriously T.T Also, I'm not really into economy-related jobs, but economists work with numbers don't they? What about all those engineers out there? Do architects, civil engineers and construction workers build stuff like bridges and buildings out of fun and hope it does not crumble? Let's not forget jobs like statisticians, physicians, teachers, research scientists and so many more. There are SO many jobs out there that require math skills. Some require it more than others, but I can assure you, every single one of them require a little bit of math. + Show Spoiler + Paycheck and tax | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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keyStorm
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Candadar
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Stop saying NASA's budget is killing our economy. Please. It fucking destroys my heart every time I read that. EDIT: TIME FOR STREAM AWWW YEAH | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
On August 07 2012 08:01 Kitsune14 wrote: This sentence is so easy to pick on. I swear to you, I'm actually having difficulties finding a job as a video game programmer because I neglected math before (I have decent skills in math). Many of the jobs in that industry requires "Strong Math Skills" in the job description. I should have taken this notice more seriously T.T Also, I'm not really into economy-related jobs, but economists work with numbers don't they? What about all those engineers out there? Do architects, civil engineers and construction wrokers build stuff like bridges and buildings out of fun and hope it does not crumble? Let's not forget jobs like statistician, physicians, teachers, research scientists and so many more. There are SO many jobs out there that require math skills. Some require it more than others, but I can assure you, every single of them require a little bit of math. + Show Spoiler + Paycheck and tax Dude, as soon as you get into science related jobs you need maths. At different level of course ! If you work in cryptology and many computer sciences it becomes really hardcore maths. If you work in economy it can go from simple maths to pretty complicated things (linked to Statistics in fact). | ||
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nanoscorp
United States1237 Posts
On August 07 2012 07:55 keyStorm wrote: yes! news briefing coming up in 5minutes ! :D Thanks for the heads-up! Watching this now, great stuff. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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POiNTx
Belgium309 Posts
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actionbastrd
Congo598 Posts
On August 07 2012 08:13 POiNTx wrote: OMG how did they find that heatshield! incredible. Very carefully. Very very carefully. But seriously, i would have never, ever saw that at all. They must have zoomed in at every speck on every image to find that one. They zoomed in on it and i couldnt see it at all without the zoom in image. Hopefully the direct connection to earth works ^__^ things seem to be going well so far tho. Love seeing the pictures. | ||
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