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Keep Nation bragging and the political debate out.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 06 2012 14:55 GMT
#741
On August 06 2012 21:44 Left4Cookies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 21:17 Diks wrote:
I want to see Mars in 1080p !!
I hope NASA will release a live stream with the view from the cameras


It's only got a 720p camera though . The next rover will hopefully have a 3D IMAX camera.

Still better quality than most SC2 tournament streams.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
August 06 2012 15:11 GMT
#742
On August 06 2012 23:55 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 21:44 Left4Cookies wrote:
On August 06 2012 21:17 Diks wrote:
I want to see Mars in 1080p !!
I hope NASA will release a live stream with the view from the cameras


It's only got a 720p camera though . The next rover will hopefully have a 3D IMAX camera.

Still better quality than most SC2 tournament streams.

And broadcasted with less of a delay than NBC has on the Olympics. We need to hire NASA for everything A/V related.
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stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
August 06 2012 15:18 GMT
#743
On August 07 2012 00:11 Chargelot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 23:55 Probe1 wrote:
On August 06 2012 21:44 Left4Cookies wrote:
On August 06 2012 21:17 Diks wrote:
I want to see Mars in 1080p !!
I hope NASA will release a live stream with the view from the cameras


It's only got a 720p camera though . The next rover will hopefully have a 3D IMAX camera.

Still better quality than most SC2 tournament streams.

And broadcasted with less of a delay than NBC has on the Olympics. We need to hire NASA for everything A/V related.



Yeah tbqh the live stream and production during last night's landing has to have been a first for space exploration as well. The content was almost as impressive as the mission itself....ALMOST
Vega62a
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
946 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 15:58:38
August 06 2012 15:52 GMT
#744
Anybody who brings the argument "this is a waste of money, it could be spent better on earth" is massively shortsighted.

For starters, NASA has the smallest budget of any major federal agency. The Olympics cost three times as much as the Curiosity mission. Simply put, NASA doesn't get a lot of money. We could triple its budget and it would STILL be small potatoes as government agencies go.

NASA employs some of the world's smartest engineers, and asks them to solve problems that literally nobody has ever solved before, and to accomplish things so incredible they boggle the mind. In two years they have more than halved the size of the landing ellipse. If you don't know what that means, look it up. It's freaking incredible.

What do you think happens when you take a bunch of really smart engineers and tell them to solve a problem? A bunch of problems pop up along the way, and the engineers solve those too. When they solve those problems, the rest of us get a bunch of really incredible technology. NASA doesn't keep it for themselves. These technologies create new industries. New jobs.

You want to get out of a global recession? Advance. You want to advance? Do something you've never done before.

I can't believe anybody could be so shortsighted as to say funding NASA would not directly benefit everyone on the planet. They literally have no idea what they're saying.

Edit: Seriously though, read that technology link. It's a list (no idea if comprehensive) of uses that people have found for technologies pioneered by NASA. Read that, and then come back and tell me that NASA is a waste of money, ever.
Content of my posts reflects only my personal opinions, and not those of any employer or subsidiary
illumiel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States75 Posts
August 06 2012 16:08 GMT
#745
I totally agree with person above me in that new technologies are only thing that can drive us out of depression at this point. Consider how fast after war Japan grew. Consider how fast China is/was growing. Common factor is that both of those countries were behind technologically and were able to import a crap ton of technology - hence massive growth. This is established fact. See this doc for more info on that: http://faculty-staff.ou.edu/K/Benjamin.D.Keen-1/Lect05.pdf .

The thing about scientists is that when organized correctly and given sufficient budget the amount of advancement/knowledge received per each additional scientist is non linear because of knowledge sharing. Faster advancement leads to better technologies and those enable faster technology development.
Alvin853
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany149 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 16:35:14
August 06 2012 16:10 GMT
#746
On August 06 2012 14:54 Poyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 14:53 enemy2010 wrote:
LOL

"....something something 4.7 degrees."
Random guy: "YES!"

I love science! :D :D :D



Haha yeah one guy knew what that meant on the planet lol.


Pretty sure those were the landing coordinates, and one guy quickly did the math how close to target they landed. They cut out right after that, but it sounded like they were about 2 kilometers from targeted landing site.

Edit: Press Conference going on right now at http://www.ustream.tv/NASAJPL

Edit 2: check this out, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter took a picture of the landing MSL with the parachute deployed:
[image loading]
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 16:35:54
August 06 2012 16:35 GMT
#747
WOW nice
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 16:58:32
August 06 2012 16:56 GMT
#748

Edit: Press Conference going on right now at http://www.ustream.tv/NASAJPL

Mind doing a quick tldr afterwards if you watch it? Unable to watch right now but I am too excited about this thing lol

Also does anyone know when they'll have signals from the rover again/new pics etc?

BTW this is pretty awesome if you wanna check out where the thing landed etc:http://www.google.com/mars/

CORN GIRL + Flash + FanTaSy + CholeraSC + iNcontroL 4 eva <3
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 06 2012 17:13 GMT
#749
On August 07 2012 01:10 Alvin853 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 14:54 Poyo wrote:
On August 06 2012 14:53 enemy2010 wrote:
LOL

"....something something 4.7 degrees."
Random guy: "YES!"

I love science! :D :D :D



Haha yeah one guy knew what that meant on the planet lol.


Pretty sure those were the landing coordinates, and one guy quickly did the math how close to target they landed. They cut out right after that, but it sounded like they were about 2 kilometers from targeted landing site.

Edit: Press Conference going on right now at http://www.ustream.tv/NASAJPL

Edit 2: check this out, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter took a picture of the landing MSL with the parachute deployed:
[image loading]


Awesome awesome picture.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 06 2012 17:17 GMT
#750
that video they just played was sick, i'm looking for links i'll post if i can find em
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Alvin853
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany149 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 17:55:21
August 06 2012 17:28 GMT
#751
On August 07 2012 01:56 AlgeriaT wrote:
Show nested quote +

Edit: Press Conference going on right now at http://www.ustream.tv/NASAJPL

Mind doing a quick tldr afterwards if you watch it? Unable to watch right now but I am too excited about this thing lol

Also does anyone know when they'll have signals from the rover again/new pics etc?

Sure, Q&A is almost over, so I'll do a quick summary:

First section was about the landing location and orientation of the rover:
[image loading]
The front of the rover is oriented towards the northwest, and the camera is showing the edge of Gale Crater
[image loading]
The back camera is showing the shadow of Curiosity on mars surface, as well as the black dunes and possibly the flank of Mt. Sharp:
[image loading]
They stated the rover is almost level, tilted slightly to the front and to one side, but less than 3 degrees off level. This also means the ground is good enough to support the 1 ton rover without sinking in, so moving around should not be a problem.

Then they talked about the MRO, the picture I already linked, and the job MRO and other orbiters will be doing to relay signals from Curiosity, but also help navigating by mapping out the surrounding area. They hope to take pictures of the landing site within a week, also looking for the other parts of the landing vessel around the landing zone.

Next up is the deployment of the high gain antenna around 11am MSL local time, I don't know how that converts to Earth time, but it's approx 8 hours from now. Then they will be able to get better resolution pictures from the rover, and more science data. So far they checked all the basic systems, and all of the parameters are within safe ranges. Some values are slightly different than expected, and they are looking into that, but nothing alarming that would prevent them from continuing as planned. All of the science equipment is electrically working fine, one of the cameras shows dust under the dust cover, but they hope it will be blown away by winds eventually.

There will be another press conference 4pm PDT today, hopefully presenting new pictures, as well as daily conferences in the morning. They expect to get the pictures from MARDI, the descent imager during mars landing from 3.7km to just before touchdown showing the exact landing location and surroundings for the 4pm press conference.
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
August 06 2012 17:29 GMT
#752
On August 07 2012 01:10 Alvin853 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 14:54 Poyo wrote:
On August 06 2012 14:53 enemy2010 wrote:
LOL

"....something something 4.7 degrees."
Random guy: "YES!"

I love science! :D :D :D



Haha yeah one guy knew what that meant on the planet lol.


Pretty sure those were the landing coordinates, and one guy quickly did the math how close to target they landed. They cut out right after that, but it sounded like they were about 2 kilometers from targeted landing site.

Edit: Press Conference going on right now at http://www.ustream.tv/NASAJPL

Edit 2: check this out, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter took a picture of the landing MSL with the parachute deployed:
[image loading]



holy fuck thats cool

i wish i could be in mars to see that shit land
banelings
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
August 06 2012 17:29 GMT
#753
aren't 200+ mph winds common on mars? there is no telling when curiosity can be blown to pieces
Question.?
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
August 06 2012 17:34 GMT
#754
On August 07 2012 02:29 biology]major wrote:
aren't 200+ mph winds common on mars? there is no telling when curiosity can be blown to pieces


They do a shit ton of testing to ensure that the rover can survive the conditions of Mars.
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Maxd11
Profile Joined July 2011
United States680 Posts
August 06 2012 17:46 GMT
#755
On August 07 2012 01:10 Alvin853 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 14:54 Poyo wrote:
On August 06 2012 14:53 enemy2010 wrote:
LOL

"....something something 4.7 degrees."
Random guy: "YES!"

I love science! :D :D :D



Haha yeah one guy knew what that meant on the planet lol.


Pretty sure those were the landing coordinates, and one guy quickly did the math how close to target they landed. They cut out right after that, but it sounded like they were about 2 kilometers from targeted landing site.

Edit: Press Conference going on right now at http://www.ustream.tv/NASAJPL

Edit 2: check this out, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter took a picture of the landing MSL with the parachute deployed:
[image loading]

That picture is almost too good to be true.
I looked in the mirror and saw biupilm69t
idkfa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States77 Posts
August 06 2012 17:50 GMT
#756
This thread demands The Onion.
and...
Skip to 1:08 if you absolutely must.
If you use "literally" as a form of hyperbole, you will literally DIE! (Eventually.)
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
August 06 2012 17:51 GMT
#757
Whenever I hear anything about Mars, the line "Red Rocks yyyyaaaaaahhhh Yyyyyyyyahhh" from the Dave chappelle show come to mind.
"let your freak flag fly"
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
August 06 2012 18:30 GMT
#758
https://twitter.com/tweetsoutloud

mohawk guy twitter!
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
August 06 2012 18:32 GMT
#759
On August 07 2012 03:30 stratmatt wrote:
https://twitter.com/tweetsoutloud

mohawk guy twitter!

thanks !!
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
August 06 2012 19:13 GMT
#760
On August 07 2012 02:28 Alvin853 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 01:56 AlgeriaT wrote:

Edit: Press Conference going on right now at http://www.ustream.tv/NASAJPL

Mind doing a quick tldr afterwards if you watch it? Unable to watch right now but I am too excited about this thing lol

Also does anyone know when they'll have signals from the rover again/new pics etc?

Sure, Q&A is almost over, so I'll do a quick summary:

First section was about the landing location and orientation of the rover:
[image loading]
The front of the rover is oriented towards the northwest, and the camera is showing the edge of Gale Crater
[image loading]
The back camera is showing the shadow of Curiosity on mars surface, as well as the black dunes and possibly the flank of Mt. Sharp:
[image loading]
They stated the rover is almost level, tilted slightly to the front and to one side, but less than 3 degrees off level. This also means the ground is good enough to support the 1 ton rover without sinking in, so moving around should not be a problem.

Then they talked about the MRO, the picture I already linked, and the job MRO and other orbiters will be doing to relay signals from Curiosity, but also help navigating by mapping out the surrounding area. They hope to take pictures of the landing site within a week, also looking for the other parts of the landing vessel around the landing zone.

Next up is the deployment of the high gain antenna around 11am MSL local time, I don't know how that converts to Earth time, but it's approx 8 hours from now. Then they will be able to get better resolution pictures from the rover, and more science data. So far they checked all the basic systems, and all of the parameters are within safe ranges. Some values are slightly different than expected, and they are looking into that, but nothing alarming that would prevent them from continuing as planned. All of the science equipment is electrically working fine, one of the cameras shows dust under the dust cover, but they hope it will be blown away by winds eventually.

There will be another press conference 4pm PDT today, hopefully presenting new pictures, as well as daily conferences in the morning. They expect to get the pictures from MARDI, the descent imager during mars landing from 3.7km to just before touchdown showing the exact landing location and surroundings for the 4pm press conference.

Thanks a lot man, very cool of you to put together this summary

Fingers crossed for the antenna then... Shit, I am going to spend a lot of time following this thing. I can't imagine how much ulcer medicine is being consumed in that control room right now.
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