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Yes, everything seems too rushed for a 40k tournament.
40k is A LOT of money, especially in the situation we currently are in BW. This sum of money surpasses TSL 4 prize pool, a company sponsored tournament, full of players paid to play SC, hosted by the major (foreigner) SC forum in the world.
If there are indeed 40k in the bank, you could probably get colaborators to work with, setup an official tournament site with very detailed information about the event and its legitimacy.
To organize such a huge event in a random thread in the BW forums of TL is a huge mistake and makes all of it look very very shady, even if everything you are doing is legit, it does look shady.
So like gecko said, build something that can give the players some way to identify that the event is legit and not a huge scam. A tournament site would be great, but if you could find ways to contact known colaborators would be even better. Partnering with TL, for example, would clear everyone fears and instantly give you and your events credibility.
Please, make this happen, BW really needs this kind of thing!
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On July 21 2012 00:15 Gecko[Xp] wrote:
Don't take this a offense, I really don't mean it that way, but: wouldn't it be a bit easier for everyone involved to re-write this thread with more details a bit later? (Also, don't take this personal, but ever since you started to try to sound "official" your English became somewhat not understandable anymore - the OP is a good example for it)
A own site (other than TL.net), more informations about the details (Qualifiers, locations, why is a LAN called Winter when it's hosted in April?), explanations who you are and why anybody should trust you with this kind of information, a registered company...
Also, do some research if your demands are not actually violating national law - which btw might be a real problem if you plan to have "semi official" or "official" kind of offline qualifiers per country. Another thought I had: don't you need some permission by Blizzard to host events like that?
Also, you have like almost a year left to plan, get people to help you and so on. This just seems like a rash idea coming from somewhere, as cool as it sounds. But you need to realize that any participant also would have to do a lot just to attend: get vacations, enough money and a place to stay, as long as giving up a lot of his privacy rights, all based on the assupmtion this would happen in exchange for nothing if it did not happen at all. Depending on what country your coming from, what you do for a living and so on this is really a huge commitment.
I don't have any staff and I'm not planning on paying anyone to do anything, let's be honest here, Starcraft: Brood War has had very few volunteers in the past while. Most of the volunteers work at translating stuff which has nothing to do with the foreign scene. You talk as though it's simple to get people to do stuff, yet you're an excellent example as to why it doesn't work. Rather than contributing to any of these things you've contributed in the thread to trying to convince the world that I'm some kind of mafia overlord which somehow made $50k to blow on BW and somehow didn't get shot for revealing this on the internet for thousands to see... It's a very far fetched story and I don't see how the event is shady at all. I will continue to run events for those who want them, I don't need a huge crew for aesthetics and stuff because it's just a waste of money when it can be better spent on the players.
As far as I know, Blizzard has no regulations against BW tournaments, they do against servers, but not tournaments as long as there is no money made off of it. I'm not making any money off of it, thus, I'm entirely clean as far as relationship with blizzard is concerned.
A rash idea generally describes one that is made in the blink of an eye, remember that I've been working on finding renewable and reliable ways of funding BW for over a year, this didn't happen over night, it's been in the works since before ISL3, before Altitude Nation Wars, before GC2. Of course, the event's format has been modified a hundred times over, the planning has been made, do I expect it to run smoothly? As far as execution, I expect and plan to be ready for many bumps in the road... Nothing like this has been done since WCG, so it's hard to prepare entirely, but this is happening.
As for my english, it was never intended to give every detail, It's an announcement thread... Made for hype more than nit picking. It doesn't even make sense to make accusations of lack of planning/foresight for an announcement of an event that's almost a full year down the road.
It's called winter because it will be primarily played over the winter.
If I didn't think it was needed, I wouldn't have taken such a huge step and would have gradually built up, but BW is losing players all the time, how many announced they would be done after ISL3?
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Eywa, I think that some ppl might help u organise that part of the national tour's qualis. I could help if its about the Polish part, but still there should be someone else, coz im planing to play the qualis.
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On July 21 2012 00:57 Eywa- wrote:
I don't have any staff and I'm not planning on paying anyone to do anything, let's be honest here, Starcraft: Brood War has had very few volunteers in the past while. Most of the volunteers work at translating stuff which has nothing to do with the foreign scene. You talk as though it's simple to get people to do stuff, yet you're an excellent example as to why it doesn't work. Rather than contributing to any of these things you've contributed in the thread to trying to convince the world that I'm some kind of mafia overlord which somehow made $50k to blow on BW and somehow didn't get shot for revealing this on the internet for thousands to see... It's a very far fetched story and I don't see how the event is shady at all. I will continue to run events for those who want them, I don't need a huge crew for aesthetics and stuff because it's just a waste of money when it can be better spent on the players.
I don't doubt that it's hard to get people to work for you. I don't say you need to pay them, I'm actually sure a lot of people would help out with fuzzy details, if they had the chance to. I don't get how I am any kind of example for the point you're trying to make. Seriously, I don't mean to sabotage this, I just list my concerns. I don't want to make you look like a mafia boss, because frankly, your information policy did that pretty well without my help thus far. I don't even think that dirty money is involved, but honestly, anybody can tell things about a giant ass prize pool just like that. That's what makes it shady, to not give info in the first place, then phrasing weird paragraphs of how you couldn't tell and only release the final thing after dozens of questions. Why not add it in the first place?
A rash idea generally describes one that is made in the blink of an eye, remember that I've been working on finding renewable and reliable ways of funding BW for over a year, this didn't happen over night, it's been in the works since before ISL3, before Altitude Nation Wars, before GC2. Of course, the event's format has been modified a hundred times over, the planning has been made, do I expect it to run smoothly? As far as execution, I expect and plan to be ready for many bumps in the road... Nothing like this has been done since WCG, so it's hard to prepare entirely, but this is happening.
As for my english, it was never intended to give every detail, It's an announcement thread... Made for hype more than nit picking. It doesn't even make sense to make accusations of lack of planning/foresight for an announcement of an event that's almost a full year down the road.
It's called winter because it will be primarily played over the winter.
If I didn't think it was needed, I wouldn't have taken such a huge step and would have gradually built up, but BW is losing players all the time, how many announced they would be done after ISL3?
The thing is, you actually ask for sign ups and information just now, when nothing seems to be final. So you seem to think everyone would be "ok" to sign up for stuff that is still in the making without reassurance. Thats a huge leap of faith you demand. On all levels. Do you really think people will start to organize offline events which might require to invest money based on promises? You don't have a history for such a big event. It's a difference to host team leagues online and offline tournaments. If that fails and you were a organizer "validated" by you, you'd automatically take a responsibility. Don't think players wouldn't be all over this "validated" orga if the entire event would fail due to a fault that could've been avoided in the first place.
As long as there are contradictory statements and nothing really plausible, this kind of questions will continue. I really don't mean to offend you as person, I want to see things like this happen, too. I just don't buy it based on what is written here. It's not like I hold grudges against Noise or Elegant.
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On July 21 2012 01:40 Gecko[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 00:57 Eywa- wrote:
I don't have any staff and I'm not planning on paying anyone to do anything, let's be honest here, Starcraft: Brood War has had very few volunteers in the past while. Most of the volunteers work at translating stuff which has nothing to do with the foreign scene. You talk as though it's simple to get people to do stuff, yet you're an excellent example as to why it doesn't work. Rather than contributing to any of these things you've contributed in the thread to trying to convince the world that I'm some kind of mafia overlord which somehow made $50k to blow on BW and somehow didn't get shot for revealing this on the internet for thousands to see... It's a very far fetched story and I don't see how the event is shady at all. I will continue to run events for those who want them, I don't need a huge crew for aesthetics and stuff because it's just a waste of money when it can be better spent on the players.
I don't doubt that it's hard to get people to work for you. I don't say you need to pay them, I'm actually sure a lot of people would help out with fuzzy details, if they had the chance to. I don't get how I am any kind of example for the point you're trying to make. Seriously, I don't mean to sabotage this, I just list my concerns. I don't want to make you look like a mafia boss, because frankly, your information policy did that pretty well without my help thus far. I don't even think that dirty money is involved, but honestly, anybody can tell things about a giant ass prize pool just like that. That's what makes it shady, to not give info in the first place, then phrasing weird paragraphs of how you couldn't tell and only release the final thing after dozens of questions. Why not add it in the first place? Show nested quote +
A rash idea generally describes one that is made in the blink of an eye, remember that I've been working on finding renewable and reliable ways of funding BW for over a year, this didn't happen over night, it's been in the works since before ISL3, before Altitude Nation Wars, before GC2. Of course, the event's format has been modified a hundred times over, the planning has been made, do I expect it to run smoothly? As far as execution, I expect and plan to be ready for many bumps in the road... Nothing like this has been done since WCG, so it's hard to prepare entirely, but this is happening.
As for my english, it was never intended to give every detail, It's an announcement thread... Made for hype more than nit picking. It doesn't even make sense to make accusations of lack of planning/foresight for an announcement of an event that's almost a full year down the road.
It's called winter because it will be primarily played over the winter.
If I didn't think it was needed, I wouldn't have taken such a huge step and would have gradually built up, but BW is losing players all the time, how many announced they would be done after ISL3?
The thing is, you actually ask for sign ups and information just now, when nothing seems to be final. So you seem to think everyone would be "ok" to sign up for stuff that is still in the making without reassurance. Thats a huge leap of faith you demand. On all levels. Do you really think people will start to organize offline events which might require to invest money based on promises? You don't have a history for such a big event. It's a difference to host team leagues online and offline tournaments. If that fails and you were a organizer "validated" by you, you'd automatically take a responsibility. Don't think players wouldn't be all over this "validated" orga if the entire event would fail due to a fault that could've been avoided in the first place. As long as there are contradictory statements and nothing really plausible, this kind of questions will continue. I really don't mean to offend you as person, I want to see things like this happen, too. I just don't buy it based on what is written here. It's not like I hold grudges against Noise or Elegant.
I'm not asking for any info from people who don't qualify... They're not investing money, the event pays their trip. I think the current players trust me enough to know it's going to happen, I'm just afraid that all the scare from the fans might require the second tour before we get any return players.
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On July 21 2012 02:48 Eywa- wrote:
I'm not asking for any info from people who don't qualify... They're not investing money, the event pays their trip. I think the current players trust me enough to know it's going to happen, I'm just afraid that all the scare from the fans might require the second tour before we get any return players.
Sorry then. This sounds a lot less dramatic than what you could interprete in the OP or other posts here. I'm still not sure if you really need a police record though, that's still a little over the top. Also, any foto-ID for Germany should be enough imho, the most other IDs you have are more or less useless for your purposes, and again, would reveal a bit of "too much" private info (bank cards, social insurance, drivers license). Some other pages use sort of bills (? not sure if right word), like things you would get after Amazon purposes. You can black out parts easily that are not of your concern, but would show your adress.
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On July 21 2012 02:48 Eywa- wrote:
I'm just afraid that all the scare from the fans might require the second tour before we get any return players.
I hate to say this, but I have no idea what this sentence means, and I was an English Major.
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On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote:
There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups.
nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?)
Anyway, possible Players:
Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot.
Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
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On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote:
There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups. nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?) Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot. Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
All the QF info will be released with the R&S thread, likely all online and on Fish Server unless otherwise indicated.
As I said, I'm not going to guess at which innactive players are going to sign up, sign up and get your friends to do the same, if it is judged that there are too many gosus, Canada and South America will be separate. Likewise, if the United States or any other country doesn't have any sign ups, their portions will be cut and potentially merged.
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On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote:
There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups. nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?) Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot. Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ]
I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming 
It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
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On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote:
There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups. nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?) Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot. Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ] I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Indeed, very valid inquiry, thanks.
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Thread contains many updates, most of it is re-written entirely to be easier to read.
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On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote:
There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups. nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?) Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot. Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ] I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting.
Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions.
Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
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The fact that you don't even have any staff (..so what does Imbatoss and shotcoder qualify as?), for an event this big, is pretty amazing and just makes it seem that much more far fetched and unbelievable, not to mention what this entire thread does to you. Handling such logistics alone while working a full time job for just a hobby of yours would eat up your schedule. I don't buy into this at all, especially given the history of failure of big tournaments in Brood War and other games.
How about providing us with more details than just hockey cards? Are you one of these auction sport card sites or businesses, going around to sport collector stores/auctions and hoping to buy low, sell high? Or more personal collecting, selling, and putting the profit into your "corporation"?
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On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote:
There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups. nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?) Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot. Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ] I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting. Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions. Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'?
The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
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On July 21 2012 08:39 Dknight wrote:
The fact that you don't even have any staff (..so what does Imbatoss and shotcoder qualify as?), for an event this big, is pretty amazing and just makes it seem that much more far fetched and unbelievable, not to mention what this entire thread does to you. Handling such logistics alone while working a full time job for just a hobby of yours would eat up your schedule. I don't buy into this at all, especially given the history of failure of big tournaments in Brood War and other games.
How about providing us with more details than just hockey cards? Are you one of these auction sport card sites or businesses, going around to sport collector stores/auctions and hoping to buy low, sell high? Or more personal collecting, selling, and putting the profit into your "corporation"?
Events made by myself and/or LRM)Game (inserting his name here for the sake of courteousness) have never been cut before the end and the prizes are always delivered in full. The longest wait time I've recorded for distributing a prize is 1 week and that's the only prize that ever went past "day of" distribution, was due to technical issues.
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On July 21 2012 08:49 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote:
There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups. nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?) Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot. Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ] I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting. Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions. Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'? The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate.
Well, then I'm confused. Let me explain.
On July 19 2012 13:03 Shotcoder wrote:
The money has been gathered through a team effort of purchasing and manufacturing product, organizing and packaging said product and redistributing it for sale at a local level. So the funding comes from the efforts of myself, Eywa and Elegant. We are no saying you don't need to know where the money is coming from, we are just withholding information for our fundraising benefits (ie if we raised this kind of money with it what's stopping TL users from repeating and reducing the "profit" margin[I use profit loosely here because the fund go back toward more product or into tournament funding]).
You've stated that Noise is the primary fundraiser for this project. If the funds are already "locked in" like you've said, why did Noise express concerns about revealing the source of the project's income being jeopardized by copycats following the same business model? That sounds to me like the Hockey Cards haven't been sold yet, but maybe I'm misunderstanding?
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If this would really happen then it would have the potential to revive broodwar, I hope it does happen. If not I might lose all faith in humanity. T_T
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On July 21 2012 10:01 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 08:49 Eywa- wrote:On July 21 2012 08:30 ninazerg wrote:On July 21 2012 06:13 ImbaTosS wrote:On July 21 2012 05:37 dRaW wrote:On July 20 2012 19:59 Eywa- wrote:
There's been a lot of talk from Canada that they don't want to play with South America, however, until there are any sign ups at all from either of these areas, this will be ignored entirely. Like I said, Qualifications I set are likely to change pending on sign ups. nothing was finalized, so we didn't think to start qualification point systems, Dragon and I were looking at possible players from LA+CA and you claim we're all inactive but this is a huge prize pool and likely some of these inactive people might just take a shot at it (which is what I thought we are promoting anyway, increase popularity in BW?) Anyway, possible Players: Assault, Bizzy, Bibiane, Castro, Cute, Deska, Dinot, Dragon, Draw, Gotunk, Handy, ShuttleDance, Terror, Yan... These are only off the top of my head though, I imagine there are a few others who upon realizing the amount of $ for the tour will probably give it a shot. Also for the Qualifiers, where do we host it(server)? How do we notify the people of that area there is a qualifier? what do we need to get the qualifier approved? [again you say we have no sign ups but you were not clear at all that we can just get started on these things, ie: if I sign up now, I still have to wait for other people to sign up before I can host any qualifiers...? ] I think all these questions coming out are really good. If people voice all uncertainties and inconsistencies now, it will be much easier to make a fully rounded and satisfactory plan. Keep them coming It would be great if "inactive" or very casual players would really step up their game for this. It would also be superb if players on the edge, (C+, possibly slightly intermittently practicing players like myself) would push themselves to a higher standard, and get some new faces at the top. I'm certainly going to try to do so, schedule permitting. Oh, excellent! I'm glad you're taking this approach to the questions. Has EywaSC procured the funds for the tournament already, or are the numbers in the original post more of a 'rough estimate'? The funds are already locked in for the tournament, it's no estimate. Well, then I'm confused. Let me explain. Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 13:03 Shotcoder wrote:
The money has been gathered through a team effort of purchasing and manufacturing product, organizing and packaging said product and redistributing it for sale at a local level. So the funding comes from the efforts of myself, Eywa and Elegant. We are no saying you don't need to know where the money is coming from, we are just withholding information for our fundraising benefits (ie if we raised this kind of money with it what's stopping TL users from repeating and reducing the "profit" margin[I use profit loosely here because the fund go back toward more product or into tournament funding]).
You've stated that Noise is the primary fundraiser for this project. If the funds are already "locked in" like you've said, why did Noise express concerns about revealing the source of the project's income being jeopardized by copycats following the same business model? That sounds to me like the Hockey Cards haven't been sold yet, but maybe I'm misunderstanding?
I don't see what you're trying to get that or where it says that in his post, obviously, anything can be interpreted and he knows that I don't talk much about my planning, i.e. you didn't hear about this event till I posted it, I try to perfect the product and not the speech. If you get caught up on the speech, then you're likely on the wrong track.
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I can see where a lot of people are getting skeptical. Might I suggest something. I've been a caster for about 6 or 7 months now. Many people still do not hear of my name. I'm fine with that. What I can tell you is for one practice makes perfect. Consistency makes perfect. Maybe if you run enough tournaments that are successful maybe people will stop second guessing you. I'd suggest partner with ISL make it bigger if you want to "rush" this huge tournament out. I think your better off starting smaller with smaller tournaments and organizing them well and then go international with 40k prize pool.
I wish you all the best luck in your endeavor. You said looking for volunteers or something like that. I'd be happy to help any qualifiers that are online with replays. I'd be unavailable to go into Europe has I have school but just giving you some option.
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