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Generally speaking I agree that people crying "Guys it was a reaction test!" are suspicious, slOosh's post does a couple of things that I feel like are very pro-town and worth mentioning that set his post apart from the bullshit, scummy variety.
First of all, he holds no illusions about the fact that this stunt is going to cause some grief for him. He makes it very clear that he expects to "more visible".
Secondly, at the end of the post he asks the thread to specifically hold him accountable for his activity picking back up when he says it will (I'll post later in the day, but not now because of X).
Given those things, I'm inclined to believe slOosh when he says it was a reaction test, however I'm eagerly awaiting what he has to say about Sinensis' reactions that caused him to end up being scummy.
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Sinensis reactions?
This is his filter:
On July 06 2012 14:58 Sinensis wrote: I'll support the occasional policy lynch if there's someone I think should be banned from mafia in general and I don't want to deal with at all. There isn't anyone like that in this game though so for our purposes, I am opposed to policy lynches. Since that seems to be what we're talking about.
I am disappointed in sloosh for the random vote, would rather he at least said something about why. Maybe he'll come back later and clear it up; he would be wise to in my opinion.
=_='
Where are you Sinensis.
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On July 07 2012 06:57 Zephirdd wrote:Sinensis reactions? This is his filter: Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 14:58 Sinensis wrote: I'll support the occasional policy lynch if there's someone I think should be banned from mafia in general and I don't want to deal with at all. There isn't anyone like that in this game though so for our purposes, I am opposed to policy lynches. Since that seems to be what we're talking about.
I am disappointed in sloosh for the random vote, would rather he at least said something about why. Maybe he'll come back later and clear it up; he would be wise to in my opinion. =_=' Where are you Sinensis.
Yeah, that's kinda my point. I agree with you and marv that not posting any reasoning behind the Sinensis vote was bullshitburger considering the stunt. :/
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VE, I don't read the same towntells into it that you do.
It's actually a very cheap and easy way to look good. e.g. in LV I stressed that I would, and did, take full responsibility for the Manason mislynch.
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Yeah it's not infallible, I'm just explaining why I don't find it "the scummiest event in the thread" the way Wiggles does.
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On July 07 2012 07:09 marvellosity wrote: VE, I don't read the same towntells into it that you do.
It's actually a very cheap and easy way to look good. e.g. in LV I stressed that I would, and did, take full responsibility for the Manason mislynch.
Not sure what you're talking about here? What towntells?
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On July 07 2012 06:55 VisceraEyes wrote: Generally speaking I agree that people crying "Guys it was a reaction test!" are suspicious, slOosh's post does a couple of things that I feel like are very pro-town and worth mentioning that set his post apart from the bullshit, scummy variety.
First of all, he holds no illusions about the fact that this stunt is going to cause some grief for him. He makes it very clear that he expects to "more visible".
Secondly, at the end of the post he asks the thread to specifically hold him accountable for his activity picking back up when he says it will (I'll post later in the day, but not now because of X).
Given those things, I'm inclined to believe slOosh when he says it was a reaction test, however I'm eagerly awaiting what he has to say about Sinensis' reactions that caused him to end up being scummy.
bolded stuff wiggles
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Also @VE.. "scummiest event in the thread" at this point doesn't take much. Any scum plays are so far WIFOM sort of.
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Na, prplhz shitting up thread and moaning at me and VE for potentially doing so is very much not wifom.
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I shit I just broke Kenpachi Rule #2. :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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On July 07 2012 07:15 VisceraEyes wrote: I shit I just broke Kenpachi Rule #2. :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Wait, there is more than one? I know Kenpachi Rule is to not question his VT claim.
What is Kenpachi Rule #2?
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On July 07 2012 07:15 marvellosity wrote: Na, prplhz shitting up thread and moaning at me and VE for potentially doing so is very much not wifom.
Hmm. Ok well let's see what he and slOosh have to say in their future (hopefully soon) posts. I sort of have a feeling prplhz might go MIA on us. If that's the case are you okay with lynching a bad-town player if we can't find any mafia, marv?
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"The first person to use the term 'pro-town' is scum"
...or something like that.
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I already found mafia, bro
and I never (knowingly!) lynch bad townies, unless i'm scum of course
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On July 07 2012 07:20 drwiggl3s wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 07:15 marvellosity wrote: Na, prplhz shitting up thread and moaning at me and VE for potentially doing so is very much not wifom. Hmm. Ok well let's see what he and slOosh have to say in their future (hopefully soon) posts. I sort of have a feeling prplhz might go MIA on us. If that's the case are you okay with lynching a bad-town player if we can't find any mafia, marv?
prplhz going MIA would be his death sentence. As a town player, he has to try and prove he isn't scum. That can be done by posting stuff. As a scum, going 'MIA' is beneficial if he wants to avoid creating connections with his allies.
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Prphlz is being a reckless townie.
Sinensis is being a cautious, lurky scum. (A lot like my scum play actually)
Forgot to do this earlier. ##Vote: Sinensis
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On July 07 2012 00:44 slOosh wrote: (I'll be posting more later in the day. Slept at 4am yesterday due to shenanigans and gonna go work now. Hold me accountable) Accountable for thread contribution and presence, not a lynch on Sinensis (if that is where the confusion is coming from).
Sinensis was the first flag of mine in terms of responses, and therefore the first thing I mentioned. I didn't comment on prplhz b/c I didn't have time in the morning to properly read it (opposed to a singleton post from Sinensis).
Sinensis is a gut read. His posting seems very ... mechanical, almost as if it has been examined and proofread. "Since that seems to be what we're talking about" doesn't seem like a natural phrase. Neither does the word choice "disappointed" - we've only played one game (SoaF) and I don't think our relationship is that where he would expect great things from me.
Now it's a gut read because posting style isn't definitive / I'm not sure how good my tone & diction analysis is, which is why I plopped down a pressure vote. There isn't yet enough to push him hard, so gotta get more info. Explaining exactly what he is doing is giving away my potential case evidence which serves to weaken any future potential cases against him, and removes the "pressure" part of the vote; however now I am doing so because it seems some people are really concerned with my initial behavior and my proving my innocence is pretty important for future collaboration of reads.
thoughts on prplhz
I found his initial vote on me and subsequent explanation of it (low tolerance on bs) believable from town perspective.
Now he called marv scum based on just one post (as he voted me first and the only thing that changed was 1 hr and a couple posts from BL and marv) - strange. His policy lynch on Zentor comes to mind, and perhaps he saw a strong parallel between that and marv's inital vote on MsZontar. Yet to stop him in such a way (calling him scum repeatedly rather than addressing town) isn't what I'd expect from a townie who genuinely wanted to do it.
His "not this again" doesn't make sense, because he believes marv is scum, in which case it is VE and marv going at it, and they aren't both town in his mind, yet that was what it was in Movie Mini Mafia (the game he is referring to for those who don't understand) - a slugfest between two townies.
People are definitely concerned and expressed suspicions of him yet he has not done anything to remedy this, but has been posting in a haughty / antagonistic manner. People are obviously putting visible effort into this game (beside me at the point), yet he throws a hissy fit.
Concluding thoughts: People shouldn't be WIFOMing themselves out of a lynch. He did some scummy things. If he doesn't give adequate explanation / contributions, he should hang end of story.
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Happy having your vote on your 'gut read' based on tone than the guy who's done scummy things, slOosh?
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Marvel, I don't see how you think it's possible that scum could act so recklessly.
Scum are cautious and afraid to post, like Sinensis. -.-
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