EPTAlso he's been drawing quite a bit of focused attention to himself. For example with his vote on slOosh, and later his accusation that marv is scum. Do you think this behavior would be smart from a mafia perspective?
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drwiggl3s
Canada167 Posts
Also he's been drawing quite a bit of focused attention to himself. For example with his vote on slOosh, and later his accusation that marv is scum. Do you think this behavior would be smart from a mafia perspective? | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On July 07 2012 02:33 Dangeresque77 wrote: I just read your filter Yes 90% of what you say is a question This is not a good thing Mafia ask this many questions. You know why? Because by asking a question you are skirting around what you think about it And allowing others to answer it for you You get out of ever having to voice your opinion If someone ever held you to your posts you would be able to say "I was just asking a question that's not my point of view" Questions are always nice but you just seem suspicious to me. What would really be nice if instead of asking "don't you think x is scummy" You would just say"x is scummy for these reasons" > says a lot without actually saying the truth. He actually made a case yo. And before your post in fact. He isn't just asking questions. He has his own opinions. Why are you defending prplhz yet you are so wishy washy? "Little suspicious of Sinensis", "not totally convinced prplhz is scum" are both extremely null statements that do exactly what you said: if someone tries to hold you accountable, you were never 100% sure. So, prplhz, Dangeresque77. Yo third aberrant, claim already and we can finish this game. | ||
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On July 07 2012 06:28 drwiggl3s wrote: I really don't see why so many votes are being thrown onto prplhz with such certainty. Can someone explain better why you think he's scum? I've gone through his filter a few times and it just seems like he's poking at people but hasn't done anything especially scummy. Also he's been drawing quite a bit of focused attention to himself. For example with his vote on slOosh, and later his accusation that marv is scum. Do you think this behavior would be smart from a mafia perspective? Don't read his filter. Read pages 7 and 8. This is what happened. > prplhz accuses marv of being scum without anything to back up > People start discussing about it, prplhz doesn't say anything > When he says something, he is complaining that people are about the create a shitstorm.("not this again...") > A bit later, he calls marv scum again without backing it up That's not poking and prodding for scum reading. That's downright trying to create havoc. That's scum agenda. | ||
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
On July 07 2012 05:57 marvellosity wrote: Previous to this post there was some blablabla posts. Reasonably to be expected at the start of day 1. But this post... ah, I don't know where to begin with how it wiffle waffles (big sister of wishy washy). He spends quite a long time talking about prplhz, but to what conclusion? He's confusing. The first sentence is a real cracker: "I would be ok to vote prplhz" - excellent! "but I'm not totally convinced he's scum" - oh... why you ok to vote him :< "then again it would help to just go ahead and lynch one person to get us started" - what??... that's not why we lynch people. So he's happy to vote prplhz just because... he's ok with getting anyone lynched to start the game. He then proceeds to call prplhz going "lol u scum" a "good way of scumhunting." Really? :/ I mean, really?? :/ Tacked on the end of the post is the little bit about Sinensis. It feels like he's just put that there to, ya know, say something else. "like others have said, his posts sound suspicious". Well, Zentor said he sounded cautious. Dangeresque does NOT provide his own opinion here, he's just casting the doubt of others on to Sinensis. Overall just a post of such astonishing nothingness. Very scummy. First off. Don't take what I said out of context. 1. In my first post I clearly stated my position on prplhz. Scummy but not confirmed mafia. By the way scum hunting is the exact reason why we lynch people. 2. Call me crazy but it looks like him going "Marv you scum lol" worked. He got you to respond. I'm not saying he's town but it's a good way to see how people respond Don't say that all I posted was nothingness. Read it then tell me what I was saying. I was posting my views on two people. How is saying "sinesis post sound suspicious" saying nothing? I am clearly saying that I think he is a little bit suspicious Overal my opinion is as follows. Very scummy- no one at the moment for me Scummy- prplhz and marvellosity Prplhz for previous reasons Marv for the way that he just accuses Only people who accuses him and of how he explodes in his posts Kinda suspicious- sinesis How's that for " posting my opinion" | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
Dangeresque77 Scummy- prplhz and marvellosity WHAT Do you think prplhz and marvelosity are part of the same scum team? Or do you think that if one is scum the other can't be? | ||
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drwiggl3s
Canada167 Posts
On July 07 2012 06:31 Zephirdd wrote: Don't read his filter. Read pages 7 and 8. This is what happened. > prplhz accuses marv of being scum without anything to back up > People start discussing about it, prplhz doesn't say anything > When he says something, he is complaining that people are about the create a shitstorm.("not this again...") > A bit later, he calls marv scum again without backing it up That's not poking and prodding for scum reading. That's downright trying to create havoc. That's scum agenda. I guess I should ask: If you were scum, would you post something that stupid? Draw that much attention to yourself early on? Scum start a game with an innate fear. That's why they lurk. It's why they come up with some preplanned town-looking posts or strategy. Seems like he's just being confident town, or suicidal mafia. The later being the less likely of the two possibilities in my book. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Would scum act like that? Flippantly fingering their foes frivolously? That's my only problem with a prplhz lynch at this point...he's smart enough to realize that acting like this would bring about suspicion...but he's like gone, man. Would scum do something like that only to disappear and allow the shit to boil over? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
He didn't get me to respond, other than in bemusement - hence his two posts going "marv is ignoring me". Notice again you still don't say why you find Sinensis suspicious... | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On July 07 2012 06:36 drwiggl3s wrote: I guess I should ask: If you were scum, would you post something that stupid? Draw that much attention to yourself early on? Scum start a game with an innate fear. That's why they lurk. It's why they come up with some preplanned town-looking posts or strategy. Seems like he's just being confident town, or suicidal mafia. The later being the less likely of the two possibilities in my book. | ||
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drwiggl3s
Canada167 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
At least I argued my corner in Movie (perhaps not optimally) | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On July 07 2012 06:36 drwiggl3s wrote: I guess I should ask: If you were scum, would you post something that stupid? Draw that much attention to yourself early on? Scum start a game with an innate fear. That's why they lurk. It's why they come up with some preplanned town-looking posts or strategy. Seems like he's just being confident town, or suicidal mafia. The later being the less likely of the two possibilities in my book. And now we get into wifom area. prplhz is experienced. He knows that scum usually acts with fear. He can act "fearless" and try to shit up the thread. The problem is: the shit didn't evolve. The moment he thought marv and VE would burst into a fight again("not this again...") he thought he did what he wanted to do. Thing is: his play didn't work, and now we found him. It's that simple. Kinda like when you proxy a stargate, and your zerg enemy found it. | ||
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Dangeresque77
United States65 Posts
Now that you bring it up it would make sense for Marv and prplhz to be on the scum team. They both throw a little suspicion at eachother without any real arguments. If I Had to gues right now I would say Marv and prplhz are scum team. This is me making a clear opinion. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
To compare, contrast. I find it quite plausible that he would roll scum and change things up like that. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
And by my estimation, townPrplhz wouldn't either...hence my vote. But it's still a good question that I don't feel like enough people are asking. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 07 2012 06:41 Dangeresque77 wrote: Zephrid. Now that you bring it up it would make sense for Marv and prplhz to be on the scum team. They both throw a little suspicion at eachother without any real arguments. If I Had to gues right now I would say Marv and prplhz are scum team. This is me making a clear opinion. I made a case. One that someone else also made. Don't give me fucking "without any real arguments" when I made a case and prplhz went "lol u scum". That's just lame. | ||
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drwiggl3s
Canada167 Posts
Here's my case against him: On July 06 2012 12:28 slOosh wrote: ##Vote: drwiggl3s His first post isn't actually very suspicious to me. People troll, random vote, etc. all the time. but what follows is what makes me think it was a plan put in place to make him seem pro-town. (rather then an actual desire to lynch me). On July 07 2012 00:44 slOosh wrote: Hey all. MrZentor has correctly identified my vote as a reaction test against a less known, less experienced (objectively by post count) player. By doing this I have achieved two objectives of mine: first is to get better reads on people via gauging the responses to my weird play and also subsequent responses to those players. Pushing to something more meaningful than trite policy lynches and giving us something to work with. Secondly, it makes me more visible - people are keeping an eye on me. Because I'm somewhat confident in my ability to reveal my towniness, this serves to give me a greater voice in town. People pay attention to the posts of those who they think suspicious. That means people gonna read what I say and also get a better, i.e. town, read on me. Awesome. In any case I'll be resuming my regular play. ##Unvote: MrZentor ##Vote: Sinensis (I'll be posting more later in the day. Slept at 4am yesterday due to shenanigans and gonna go work now. Hold me accountable) On July 07 2012 00:45 slOosh wrote: EBWOP: Wahaha ... I guess the sleepy hasn't wore off yet. It should read ##Unvote: drwiggl3s ##Vote: Sinensis His follow up posts show great reasoning, and a desire to poke people who are new and or lurking to get a reaction from them. Sure this looks like a great town post, but isn't it too great? Like he starts a mini flare up in posting where everyone's wondering why I have a vote already despite not having posted. And then after a short time he comes back with a flawless reason, thus allowing him to appear pro-town while giving him the opportunity to sit back and not have to post any more. To me at least this seems like the most suspicious action in the thread. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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drwiggl3s
Canada167 Posts
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