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On May 28 2012 14:27 VisceraEyes wrote: Tell me a story about Kitaman MZ. Once upon a time in a land far far away there lived a strapping young templar named kita. Kita dreamed of being a powerful archon someday but he had yet to find his soulmate. Hoping to find a nubile young lady templar kita decided to play TL mafia in order to meet some of the young single templar who hung out there. Kita played many games and soon achieved "veteran" status which meant that people payed more attention to his posts. Kita played many good games and had a very impressive streak of wins under his belt. However kita was lonely as he had yet to find his love, his partner for life, the one who would become an archon with him.
In a black misery, kita began to post less. His coveted veteran status meant little to him anymore, he could barely find the strength to post. + Show Spoiler +On May 28 2012 00:52 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2012 11:20 GreYMisT wrote: I would like to give a big thanks to my friend and fellow Grubby mod "astroorion" for helping me send the PMs I think GreYMisT just wanted to brag about being a Grubby mod. CAUGHT YOU! I agree with Wiggle's statement about the pardoner. The only person who we should elect as a the runner-up should be a player who states in the thread that he is unwilling to use the role on anyone but himself. Blazing, you may not be a troll, but you spam like no other. 37 posts in the first few hours of the game? -_- Mayor and pardoner elections are less important without bodyguards. The focus today should be determining the mayor's day one lynch. I may dislike policy lynches, but grush has failed to address any concerns. With a lyncher possibly in play, its extremeley likely that he has decided to run for mayor. I suggest we elect someone who has not declared their candidacy yet. ##Vote Hyaach. You got this. . He could barely discuss the setup and comment on brash young blazinghand's posts. When blazinghand proposed the absolutely idiotic idea of lynching someone simply because they were bad, kita found himself halfheartedly agreeing with it. He even called for a complete unknown to be mayor, while this was a tactic he had observed being used by mafia elders, kita had little idea how to correctly implement it and was simply hoping that a fetching young templar would notice his tactics and talk to him.
Many of kita's friends expressed surprise at his posts. They asked about his curious decisions. Kita responded forlornly: + Show Spoiler +On May 28 2012 02:39 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 01:02 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 28 2012 00:52 kitaman27 wrote:On May 27 2012 11:20 GreYMisT wrote: I would like to give a big thanks to my friend and fellow Grubby mod "astroorion" for helping me send the PMs I think GreYMisT just wanted to brag about being a Grubby mod. CAUGHT YOU! I agree with Wiggle's statement about the pardoner. The only person who we should elect as a the runner-up should be a player who states in the thread that he is unwilling to use the role on anyone but himself. Blazing, you may not be a troll, but you spam like no other. 37 posts in the first few hours of the game? -_- Mayor and pardoner elections are less important without bodyguards. The focus today should be determining the mayor's day one lynch. I may dislike policy lynches, but grush has failed to address any concerns. With a lyncher possibly in play, its extremeley likely that he has decided to run for mayor. I suggest we elect someone who has not declared their candidacy yet. ##Vote Hyaach. You got this. "Hey guys no scum candidate is up for elections so I'm gonna put one up now." Do you disagree with my assessment or do you just really want to get elected? :p Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 02:03 GambitX32 wrote: @kitaman: elect someone who isn't running? This doesn't make sense to me, would if they are bad at reading people or turn out to be a lurker? Lyncher is likely to run for mayor. Picking someone who isn't running reduces the odds of electing a lyncher. It doesn't really matter if we elect a lurker or less skilled player as long as they are town. Mayor isn't really a town leader in this setup without the bodyguards. Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 02:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: rofl kita aren't you copying foolishness with that one? Lies. Foolishness put much more effort in endorsing his candidate. Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 02:32 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Lastly, Kitaman, I don't think anyone's going to take your suggestion seriously. However, I'm interested, why did you choose Hyaach? What made you want to suggest him as the random mayor? Because he is a newer player and I want to hear more from him. Do you agree that it is more likely that a lyncher will be running for mayor? Lets lynch meeple. . He continued to speculate on the setup and halfheartedly defended his decision to elect a noob after he realized that no lady templar had noticed him for it. Trying another tactic, kita threw out a name to be lynched. Once again, a move he hoped would bring him recognition.
Kita's friends huddled around wondering what had befallen their friend. As they looked on, kita continued to flail about: + Show Spoiler +On May 28 2012 04:08 kitaman27 wrote: Hmm, mason would be a great claim for a lyncher. Doesn't matter if he's telling the truth on day two since he's already won by then.
As much as I'd like to see a town role elected, we can't automatically assume toad is town. . To their horror, Kita continued to speculate about the setup and even sunk so low as to state the obvious.
His next few posts continued to apathetically discuss the pardoner position and a question about someone running for mayor.
After posting he headed down to the bar and drowned his sorrows in his mug. He was in despair, he would never find someone to become an archon with.
Will kita's story have a happy ending? Find out next time on TL Mafia: LV
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Why would Kitaman care about keeping the Leader position out of the hands of the Lyncher? First of all, it's possible that there are as few as zero third parties in the setup, so that being a sole motivation for his election vote seems at the very least non-optimal...but even if it were guaranteed that there's a Lyncher in the game, who the dicks cares? I mean, as far as I know the Lyncher's target could be scum right? I don't know much about third parties, but that seems feasible.
My point is, this is the sole purpose of Kita's post endorsing "someone random". By that logic also, it seems Kitaman isn't concerned about electing a TOWNIE into the position, it seems his only inspiration is to "avoid electing the Lyncher".
This is suspicious behavior from someone who should know better.
On May 28 2012 05:49 kitaman27 wrote: Lets end the discussion right now.
Toad is our pardoner.
It's the best of both worlds. It ensures we don't have a scum pardoner, which is the more dangerous of the two roles and it protects us from a mayor lyncher. If you're town toad, then great we denied the role. If not, then we don't really care if you would prefer mayor.
Again...something I found odd was Kita's insistence that we end discussion on the topic of Toad being elected Vice Leader. First of all, if anything was distracting it was whether the role is useless or not. But that's not the point that Kitaman chose to end on...he wanted the discussion of who is Vice-Leader to be over, and he wanted the conclusion to be that Toad is elected.
But he doesn't bring up a new topic of discussion or anything - just leaves it there. "Shut up guys!"
This is suspicious behavior from someone who should know better.
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YAY WE CAME TO THE EXACT SAME CONCLUSION INDEPENDENTLY!
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fuck VE you could have waited a bit longer -_-
Also for you loyal viewers, a preview of our next episode. Kita appeared and he seemed to have a bit of fighting spirit left in him... or is it simply an illusion of confidence brought on by strong alcohol.
Find out next time on TL Mafia LV
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See VE I put some effort into my story
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On May 28 2012 14:40 VisceraEyes wrote: No? Shall I tell you a story?
Once upon a time there was a player in this game named kitaman who much like his other veteran brethren had no interested in running for Leader of Earth. However, unlike his veteran brethren, kitaman had an idea of who he wanted to be mayor before posting. When Kitaman put forth Hyaach's name for election, the room erupted.
"Outrage! Why would you put forth a name of such little consequence in the game thus far?!" his brethren cried.
"Don't you see? My motivations are simple! I'm attempting to keep the elected role out of the hands of the dreaded Lyncher!" Kitaman replied sardonically.
Uneasily, his veteran brethren shuffled their feet and mumbled to themselves. Clearly unsatisfied with this response, one player rose from the ranks behind the veterans...
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MINE WAS BETTER!!!!!11111!!!111!!
it had back story, drama, and a romantic angle... it's probably ready for a movie adaptation tbh.
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I only reposted for fear you missed it...obviously it Palestine in comparison.
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On May 28 2012 14:32 Sinensis wrote: Just like last game, the only people sticking up for grush are other people. He just can't give it the time of day. The people who are after me, what are your agendas?
VE I'm curious how many people would vote me right now if it were a regular day.
Oh you...
I'm trying to find and eliminate scum. Your posting has left me with a distinctly bad taste in my mouth, so I'm trying to put your name out there so that anyone who is elected remembers it come lynch time.
As to your question directed at me, let's speculate. In a game this size, I'd expect a fair spread among the lynch votes...I think that MZ and I would totally rather lynch you D1 than Kita, so at least us (I'm assuming he thinks you're a decent candidate - your mileage may vary) and I'd say probably grush...3? Maybe 4 depending on who you'd have pissed off without the elections to talk about?
Cool, so 4. This has been refreshing and everything, but let me ask you a question in return. What do you think about Kitaman's posting so far?
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Yeah VE I'd be down for a sinensis lynch. If we went for him I'd write up a proper analysis and shit but I think it's fairly obvious from the past several pages why he has to go.
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I mean, I spelled it out myself.
Okay, so I like Kita/Sinensis for scum so far...which is actually kinda disturbing, what do you think about 2 scum pretty much just claiming in thread like that? Seems too easy...but anyway there are lurkers to consider. What are the chances that ANY scum are among those who haven't posted yet?
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I'd say pretty slim myself.
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kitaman27
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On May 28 2012 14:51 VisceraEyes wrote: Why would Kitaman care about keeping the Leader position out of the hands of the Lyncher?
-_-
On May 28 2012 14:51 VisceraEyes wrote: My point is, this is the sole purpose of Kita's post endorsing "someone random". By that logic also, it seems Kitaman isn't concerned about electing a TOWNIE into the position, it seems his only inspiration is to "avoid electing the Lyncher".
lol I random voted Hyaach with the hope that he would post. I still feel its optimal to elect someone who didn't declare their candidacy in the first 24 hours, but Hyaach doesn't have nearly enough posts to warrent being elected. I'll have to decide tomorrow between the candidates. You mentioned earlier that I'm not interested in being elected, which is untrue. I would be perfectly content with being mayor.
On May 28 2012 14:51 VisceraEyes wrote: Again...something I found odd was Kita's insistence that we end discussion on the topic of Toad being elected Vice Leader. First of all, if anything was distracting it was whether the role is useless or not. But that's not the point that Kitaman chose to end on...he wanted the discussion of who is Vice-Leader to be over, and he wanted the conclusion to be that Toad is elected.
Odd or scummy?
I'm not sure what is so strange to you. Toad role claims mason, which means he is either a lyncher or a mason. Therefore, we elect him as pardoner where he can do no harm and benefit town by denying the role that shortens the game by one cycle. Seems like a completely reasonable conclusion to me. Do you disagree that Toad should be elected?
On May 28 2012 15:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Yeah VE I'd be down for a sinensis lynch. If we went for him I'd write up a proper analysis and shit but I think it's fairly obvious from the past several pages why he has to go.
Humor us?
Too tired to re-read the thread tonight. Tomorrow I'll have to give my thoughts about the lynch.
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I don't feel like writing anything spectacular tonight. I'm watching KHAN v STX (KHAN HWAITING), I'll pay attention to the thread but you'll have to wait for tomorrow before I do anything on sine.
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Yes Kita, I vehemently disagree with electing Toad to do anything...not that you.care since you're leaving...
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On May 28 2012 15:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I'm watching KHAN v STX (KHAN HWAITING),
<3 <3 <3
On May 28 2012 15:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Yes Kita, I vehemently disagree with electing Toad to do anything...not that you.care since you're leaving...
I'm going to bed so you can't explain your reasoning for not wanting the claimed mason elected as pardoner? I'll do you a favor and stick around a bit longer (not really) so you can tell us why.
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Blazinghand
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Hey gents I'm back. So here's what I think: I think Wiggle-dawg is making sense. I think Wiggle-dawg making sense is good. Now typically I'd be down for myself as mayor, but I don't seem to have much support, besides perhaps a desperation vote from Sinensis. Also, I hate to say this, but Grush looks like he might be modestly useful this game. Given his D1 play I can no longer support a policy lynch of him.
However, Grush, I fully anticipate a continued effort from you this game. Keep up the good work <3
##vote: Mr. Wiggles
Now Wiggle-dawg I've got a suggestion for your consideration, and that is that we lynch SnB.
"but wait blazinghand is this about the retard thing?"
That's a fair question, imaginery-question-asker. Let me break it down for you in flow-chart format.
You see, aside from specific responses to questions about his pardoner campaign, this represents the entirety of the SnB contribution to the town:
On May 28 2012 09:07 strongandbig wrote: 2. Sinensis are you still running for mayor? Do you still want to policy lynch grush? I'm pretty sure BH still does but idk about you.
3. MrWiggles, you've said a lot about pardoner but this is an election for mayor. Also, how do we know if you're town? Obviously the "I'm town" paradigm posted by the subject of suspicion should always be treated with several grains of salt, but it can still be useful to townies making up their minds so I'd like it if you could post one.
I think these are sort of low-risk low-reward questions. Sinensis never said anything to put doubt into SnB's mind about either of his questions, and honestly Wiggle-dawg's posting has been exemplary. A question like "how do we know if you're town" is utterly worthless. Like... there's nothing to be said about that except to look at actions and see if they jive.
I'm not really sure what SnB thinks he's doing with these comments. And given that these are the only comments he makes following being pressured about his pardoner campaign (other than defending his pardoner campaign), coupled with the nature of his pardoner campaign itself, I think he is a lynch worth of your consideration today Wiggle-dawg.
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You're a gracious lord Kita.
I'm not interested in electing a pardoner who could be convinced in PMs by some unsavory influence to affect a lynch I had a hand in voting for. Period. His mason claim made it really simple for me. Say Nope To Dope. And Toad.
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BH you're back. Please take a look at Kita's posts and Sine's post and tell me what you think. My thoughts and MZ's thoughts have been creatively expressed in the form of stories.
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