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On May 28 2012 13:02 MajuGarzett wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 12:57 Sinensis wrote:On May 28 2012 12:54 MajuGarzett wrote:
Why are you so hung up on lynching Grush Sinensis? You seem to neglect that the fact that even if a mislynch is likely on day one it's still better to try to lynch scum than to lynch someone who thus far has been active and seems like town. At least BH conceded that if there was a substantiated target he would lynch them but you haven't done even that. Would you be open to a different lynch or not? How about this, you find me a confirmed mafia and I will happily support their lynch instead of grush's. Hear that mafia? Go ahead and reveal yourselves now. -_-... Don't be pedantic. I meant that if there is a target generally thought to be mafia would you lynch them.
Yeah. What target? There isn't one. So I want to hit grush. In the hypothetical situation that there were a good target, would I want them lynched instead of grush? Yes.
You're not going to get a good target day 1 if mafia does their job right. In the absence of a good target... what do we do? We could lynch a lurker, or we could lynch a non-asset (like grush). I think grush will do more damage to town than a lurker, so I want to lynch him.
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On May 28 2012 13:01 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 12:55 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2012 12:47 Sinensis wrote:On May 28 2012 12:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2012 12:10 Sinensis wrote:
EBWOP: If a mislynch is going to happen, which in all likelyhood it will because that's the nature of day 1 lynches in big games, I would much rather lose grush than someone like, for example wiggles. Dat attitude... Also dat logic failure. You lynch people for acting scummy, not because they fucked you over in the last game. You threw out a huge red herring there by comparing wiggles to grush. Unless wiggles decides to claim scum, I'd bet every penny I own he won't be lynched today. Why? Because wiggles has been posting clearly, coherently, and in a protown manner. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize wiggles is a bad lynch, we're in no danger of "losing him". You're attempting to policy lynch grush (for the record policy lynches are retarded), because he's bad, not because he's scummy. Nobody wants to policy lynch wiggles, thus comparing grush to someone like wiggles is like comparing apples to oranges. If you want to bring an actual case about why grush is scum then please do, until then both you and blazinghand can drop it. That middle paragraph is what it sounds like when a point flies at high speed over someone's head. I have nothing to add other than: DUH. Of course wiggles isn't getting lynched today, because his posting is good. He is an asset to town, the opposite of what grush is. And I'm not going to "drop it." That is my platform. You don't like it, don't vote for me. If I get elected mayor, grush is dying. RE: grushNone of those 15 lurkers ruined my last game with poor play. Lurking has nothing to do with why I want you lynched. Right back at you bro. You missed my point entirely. Comparing wiggles to grush is a red herring, if you can't see that then I really can't help you. Also stating If I get elected mayor, grush is dying. is ridiculous. You lynch someone because they're scummy, not because you don't like them. Nobody will be voting Sinensis, thank you in advance for your compliance. I didn't compare them. Don't believe me? I'll show you: Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 12:10 Sinensis wrote:
EBWOP: If a mislynch is going to happen, which in all likelyhood it will because that's the nature of day 1 lynches in big games, I would much rather lose grush than someone like, for example wiggles. I said I would much rather lose grush, A NON-ASSET, than a valuable town asset, LIKE WIGGLES. There isn't a comparison there. Everything you have typed in the last 10 minutes has been unsubstantiated. Thanks.
You just quoted the original post which had the red herring, I can't tell if you're dumb or scum.
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EBWOP: Or we could wait for some weak quoted post-by-post anaylsis, based on the the ZERO facts present, and lynch based off that.
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On May 28 2012 13:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 13:01 Sinensis wrote:On May 28 2012 12:55 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2012 12:47 Sinensis wrote:On May 28 2012 12:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2012 12:10 Sinensis wrote:
EBWOP: If a mislynch is going to happen, which in all likelyhood it will because that's the nature of day 1 lynches in big games, I would much rather lose grush than someone like, for example wiggles. Dat attitude... Also dat logic failure. You lynch people for acting scummy, not because they fucked you over in the last game. You threw out a huge red herring there by comparing wiggles to grush. Unless wiggles decides to claim scum, I'd bet every penny I own he won't be lynched today. Why? Because wiggles has been posting clearly, coherently, and in a protown manner. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize wiggles is a bad lynch, we're in no danger of "losing him". You're attempting to policy lynch grush (for the record policy lynches are retarded), because he's bad, not because he's scummy. Nobody wants to policy lynch wiggles, thus comparing grush to someone like wiggles is like comparing apples to oranges. If you want to bring an actual case about why grush is scum then please do, until then both you and blazinghand can drop it. That middle paragraph is what it sounds like when a point flies at high speed over someone's head. I have nothing to add other than: DUH. Of course wiggles isn't getting lynched today, because his posting is good. He is an asset to town, the opposite of what grush is. And I'm not going to "drop it." That is my platform. You don't like it, don't vote for me. If I get elected mayor, grush is dying. RE: grushNone of those 15 lurkers ruined my last game with poor play. Lurking has nothing to do with why I want you lynched. Right back at you bro. You missed my point entirely. Comparing wiggles to grush is a red herring, if you can't see that then I really can't help you. Also stating If I get elected mayor, grush is dying. is ridiculous. You lynch someone because they're scummy, not because you don't like them. Nobody will be voting Sinensis, thank you in advance for your compliance. I didn't compare them. Don't believe me? I'll show you: On May 28 2012 12:10 Sinensis wrote:
EBWOP: If a mislynch is going to happen, which in all likelyhood it will because that's the nature of day 1 lynches in big games, I would much rather lose grush than someone like, for example wiggles. I said I would much rather lose grush, A NON-ASSET, than a valuable town asset, LIKE WIGGLES. There isn't a comparison there. Everything you have typed in the last 10 minutes has been unsubstantiated. Thanks. You just quoted the original post which had the red herring, I can't tell if you're dumb or scum.
Must be dumb then if those are my only two options. So what makes my post a red herring other than that I compared grush and wiggles, which I didn't do in the first place?
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On May 28 2012 13:30 Sinensis wrote:
EBWOP: Or we could wait for some weak quoted post-by-post anaylsis, based on the the ZERO facts present, and lynch based off that.
I agree with you that there will probably be no strong scum read first day, I just wanted clarification about your stance on it if there were.
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On May 28 2012 13:34 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 13:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2012 13:01 Sinensis wrote:On May 28 2012 12:55 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2012 12:47 Sinensis wrote:On May 28 2012 12:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2012 12:10 Sinensis wrote:
EBWOP: If a mislynch is going to happen, which in all likelyhood it will because that's the nature of day 1 lynches in big games, I would much rather lose grush than someone like, for example wiggles. Dat attitude... Also dat logic failure. You lynch people for acting scummy, not because they fucked you over in the last game. You threw out a huge red herring there by comparing wiggles to grush. Unless wiggles decides to claim scum, I'd bet every penny I own he won't be lynched today. Why? Because wiggles has been posting clearly, coherently, and in a protown manner. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize wiggles is a bad lynch, we're in no danger of "losing him". You're attempting to policy lynch grush (for the record policy lynches are retarded), because he's bad, not because he's scummy. Nobody wants to policy lynch wiggles, thus comparing grush to someone like wiggles is like comparing apples to oranges. If you want to bring an actual case about why grush is scum then please do, until then both you and blazinghand can drop it. That middle paragraph is what it sounds like when a point flies at high speed over someone's head. I have nothing to add other than: DUH. Of course wiggles isn't getting lynched today, because his posting is good. He is an asset to town, the opposite of what grush is. And I'm not going to "drop it." That is my platform. You don't like it, don't vote for me. If I get elected mayor, grush is dying. RE: grushNone of those 15 lurkers ruined my last game with poor play. Lurking has nothing to do with why I want you lynched. Right back at you bro. You missed my point entirely. Comparing wiggles to grush is a red herring, if you can't see that then I really can't help you. Also stating If I get elected mayor, grush is dying. is ridiculous. You lynch someone because they're scummy, not because you don't like them. Nobody will be voting Sinensis, thank you in advance for your compliance. I didn't compare them. Don't believe me? I'll show you: On May 28 2012 12:10 Sinensis wrote:
EBWOP: If a mislynch is going to happen, which in all likelyhood it will because that's the nature of day 1 lynches in big games, I would much rather lose grush than someone like, for example wiggles. I said I would much rather lose grush, A NON-ASSET, than a valuable town asset, LIKE WIGGLES. There isn't a comparison there. Everything you have typed in the last 10 minutes has been unsubstantiated. Thanks. You just quoted the original post which had the red herring, I can't tell if you're dumb or scum. Must be dumb then if those are my only two options. So what makes my post a red herring other than that I compared grush and wiggles, which I didn't do in the first place?
Using the word "than" pretty much makes it a comparison.
Meapak what do you mean by the post was a red herring? As far as I can see he wasn't trying to lead anybody to false conclusions, just saying he would ensure that a bad townie such as Grush was lynched instead of possibly a good townie.
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On May 28 2012 13:34 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 13:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2012 13:01 Sinensis wrote:On May 28 2012 12:55 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2012 12:47 Sinensis wrote:On May 28 2012 12:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2012 12:10 Sinensis wrote:
EBWOP: If a mislynch is going to happen, which in all likelyhood it will because that's the nature of day 1 lynches in big games, I would much rather lose grush than someone like, for example wiggles. Dat attitude... Also dat logic failure. You lynch people for acting scummy, not because they fucked you over in the last game. You threw out a huge red herring there by comparing wiggles to grush. Unless wiggles decides to claim scum, I'd bet every penny I own he won't be lynched today. Why? Because wiggles has been posting clearly, coherently, and in a protown manner. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize wiggles is a bad lynch, we're in no danger of "losing him". You're attempting to policy lynch grush (for the record policy lynches are retarded), because he's bad, not because he's scummy. Nobody wants to policy lynch wiggles, thus comparing grush to someone like wiggles is like comparing apples to oranges. If you want to bring an actual case about why grush is scum then please do, until then both you and blazinghand can drop it. That middle paragraph is what it sounds like when a point flies at high speed over someone's head. I have nothing to add other than: DUH. Of course wiggles isn't getting lynched today, because his posting is good. He is an asset to town, the opposite of what grush is. And I'm not going to "drop it." That is my platform. You don't like it, don't vote for me. If I get elected mayor, grush is dying. RE: grushNone of those 15 lurkers ruined my last game with poor play. Lurking has nothing to do with why I want you lynched. Right back at you bro. You missed my point entirely. Comparing wiggles to grush is a red herring, if you can't see that then I really can't help you. Also stating If I get elected mayor, grush is dying. is ridiculous. You lynch someone because they're scummy, not because you don't like them. Nobody will be voting Sinensis, thank you in advance for your compliance. I didn't compare them. Don't believe me? I'll show you: On May 28 2012 12:10 Sinensis wrote:
EBWOP: If a mislynch is going to happen, which in all likelyhood it will because that's the nature of day 1 lynches in big games, I would much rather lose grush than someone like, for example wiggles. I said I would much rather lose grush, A NON-ASSET, than a valuable town asset, LIKE WIGGLES. There isn't a comparison there. Everything you have typed in the last 10 minutes has been unsubstantiated. Thanks. You just quoted the original post which had the red herring, I can't tell if you're dumb or scum. Must be dumb then if those are my only two options. So what makes my post a red herring other than that I compared grush and wiggles, which I didn't do in the first place?
I found this definition from online webster's, I think it should help you out:
[from the practice of drawing a red herring across a trail to confuse hunting dogs] : something that distracts attention from the real issue
So what issue are you confusing? Your reason for why grush should die. You call for grush's death and rationalize it by saying that It's better that grush dies than someone useful like wiggles. I called you out and said that wiggles would never die and your comparison between them is a red herring.
And please read your own posts, you did compare grush to wiggles:
I would much rather lose grush than someone like, for example wiggles.
In English, this is a comparison. It's mind boggling that you're even debating this.
I agree with your self diagnosis of dumb, however that doesn't rule out the possibility of scum.
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On May 28 2012 13:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
@Maju, see my last post.
What's the issue its drawing attention away from though. I don't see him mentioning Wiggles as an issue at all, wiggles was probably just the first example of a good townie that he thought of.
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On May 28 2012 13:57 MajuGarzett wrote:What's the issue its drawing attention away from though. I don't see him mentioning Wiggles as an issue at all, wiggles was probably just the first example of a good townie that he thought of.
He could have picked anyone who's not dying today, myself, ET, wiggles, forumite, anyone who's been contributing. The whole point here is that he's putting grush up in comparison to people who aren't going to die which really muddies his reasons for killing grush.
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I was not implying wiggles was useful or town or scum. I was implying wiggles posts and his agenda are nicely presented and consistent, unlike grush. I wasn't drawing attention away from anything, unlike you stroking it in your last post. Nice dictionary definition, I've got one too:
ventose
\ VEN-tohs \ , adjective;
1. Given to empty talk; windy.
It's the word of the day at dictionary.com; just like yours it doesn't mean anything and is completely unrelated.
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I move that whomever is elected seriously consider Sine for lynch today. Pushing the anti-town notion that townies can be more dangerous to town alive than dead alone is enough to make me think he's scum, but the fact that he backpedaled makes it even worse to me.
He was running on the platform of "I'm going to lynch grush" based on the fact that he "ruined my last game". However, from my point of view, a policy lynch on another player based on a different game is tantamount to randomly lynching...which I'm staunchly against. Scum DO reveal themselves D1.
But this was an unpopular notion, and he has now backpedaled to "Well obviously I only mean as a policy lynch...if a scummier candidate presents himself obviously I would lynch him. But this isn't what he said. He said "I'm going to lynch grush if elected"
Right now Sine is my top suspect, and I think anyone who is elected should consider him for lynch.
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On May 28 2012 14:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 13:57 MajuGarzett wrote:On May 28 2012 13:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
@Maju, see my last post. What's the issue its drawing attention away from though. I don't see him mentioning Wiggles as an issue at all, wiggles was probably just the first example of a good townie that he thought of. He could have picked anyone who's not dying today, myself, ET, wiggles, forumite, anyone who's been contributing. The whole point here is that he's putting grush up in comparison to people who aren't going to die which really muddies his reasons for killing grush.
Whoawhoawhoa pal...I'm still up for Leader and if you step outta line I waste you!
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On May 28 2012 14:21 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 14:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2012 13:57 MajuGarzett wrote:On May 28 2012 13:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
@Maju, see my last post. What's the issue its drawing attention away from though. I don't see him mentioning Wiggles as an issue at all, wiggles was probably just the first example of a good townie that he thought of. He could have picked anyone who's not dying today, myself, ET, wiggles, forumite, anyone who's been contributing. The whole point here is that he's putting grush up in comparison to people who aren't going to die which really muddies his reasons for killing grush. Whoawhoawhoa pal...I'm still up for Leader and if you step outta line I waste you!
VE you've played good so far this game but I can't give you my vote after liar game... maybe next game bro.
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How many hours till this day ends?
placer-vote until i read everything in around 8 hours
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Tell me a story about Kitaman MZ.
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Just like last game, the only people sticking up for grush are other people. He just can't give it the time of day. The people who are after me, what are your agendas?
VE I'm curious how many people would vote me right now if it were a regular day.
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No? Shall I tell you a story?
Once upon a time there was a player in this game named kitaman who much like his other veteran brethren had no interested in running for Leader of Earth. However, unlike his veteran brethren, kitaman had an idea of who he wanted to be mayor before posting. When Kitaman put forth Hyaach's name for election, the room erupted.
"Outrage! Why would you put forth a name of such little consequence in the game thus far?!" his brethren cried.
"Don't you see? My motivations are simple! I'm attempting to keep the elected role out of the hands of the dreaded Lyncher!" Kitaman replied sardonically.
Uneasily, his veteran brethren shuffled their feet and mumbled to themselves. Clearly unsatisfied with this response, one player rose from the ranks behind the veterans...
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kitaman27
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...And then Kita squashed the rebelous scum and we all lived happily ever after.
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