Oh, and by "boosting this thread back to the top" I'm creating more opportunities for people to appreciate you for the wrong reasons, and hopefully bring light to how common this kind of behavior is in the gaming world. 10/10
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ELYSiUMlol
United States89 Posts
Oh, and by "boosting this thread back to the top" I'm creating more opportunities for people to appreciate you for the wrong reasons, and hopefully bring light to how common this kind of behavior is in the gaming world. 10/10 | ||
Nightshade_
United States549 Posts
1. Respect for girl gamers 2. respect for eSports This entire stream is a dedication to women's sexuality and not their skill. People bitch and moan about how girl gamers constantly get no respect for their skill and only their body, and it's things like this that do NOT help. I would totally be for this streamer if she hadn't posted pictures of her 3/4 naked, and been a glam-fest over what eSports is meant for, GAMING. This is not a modelling scene, and never will be. Wonder why profession girl gamers such as Flo or Startale Rainbow's girlfriend (forgot her name) have respect and don't get extra attention? It is because they carry themselves professionally, they aren't out for attention, they play because it is what they love. With that said, this is an attention whoring stream at a glance, and I sincerely hope you will not take this as a personal attack, but as a reasonable post by a non-white knight observer. | ||
ELYSiUMlol
United States89 Posts
On May 24 2012 05:25 Nightshade_ wrote: On another note. This stream does not further the case for both: 1. Respect for girl gamers 2. respect for eSports This entire stream is a dedication to women's sexuality and not their skill. People bitch and moan about how girl gamers constantly get no respect for their skill and only their body, and it's things like this that do NOT help. I would totally be for this streamer if she hadn't posted pictures of her 3/4 naked, and been a glam-fest over what eSports is meant for, GAMING. This is not a modelling scene, and never will be. Wonder why profession girl gamers such as Flo or Startale Rainbow's girlfriend (forgot her name) have respect and don't get extra attention? It is because they carry themselves professionally, they aren't out for attention, they play because it is what they love. With that said, this is an attention whoring stream at a glance, and I sincerely hope you will not take this as a personal attack, but as a reasonable post by a non-white knight observer. Thank you for contributing to my main points. I'm thankful you remembered to make the comparison between this and actual girl gamers like Flo, Aphrodite, and Eve, because they're appreciated for their skill and not their ability to market their sexuality. Obviously this point is going to be massively neglected and people are going to say "She just wants to put out entertaining content", but when that entertaining content is her ability to show off cleavage, how is that justified? | ||
TaraBabcock
United States391 Posts
I decided to use my modeling to boost the gaming scene. Many of my viewers are new to TwitchTV/streaming, etc. and are now incredibly into it. I've gotten countless men, women, models, etc. to start playing games and I created my TwitchTV layout with the help of their admins to make sure everything is to their ToS standards. I also now have the support of GoSc and many influential male and female gaming personalities, too. That is the only thing I have to say in my defense. No need to fuel the ignorant fire further. As for being bad at gaming: StarCraft is a HARD game, that requires hours of practice, and cognitive skills. I am doing my best to rise in the ladder ranks, and I honestly love the game. I'm great at other games, actually! | ||
Nightshade_
United States549 Posts
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TaraBabcock
United States391 Posts
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ELYSiUMlol
United States89 Posts
On May 24 2012 05:31 TaraBabcock wrote: I have been a gamer since I could remember, and I have all of my "gamer cred" on my stream page. I write for a gaming website, I have a gamer tattoo, I spend thousands of hours gaming, have dozens of consoles and hundreds of games. I decided to use my modeling to boost the gaming scene. Many of my viewers are new to TwitchTV/streaming, etc. and are now incredibly into it. I've gotten countless men, women, models, etc. to start playing games and I created my TwitchTV layout with the help of their admins to make sure everything is to their ToS standards. I also now have the support of GoSc and many influential male and female gaming personalities, too. That is the only thing I have to say in my defense. No need to fuel the ignorant fire further. As for being bad at gaming: StarCraft is a HARD game, that requires hours of practice, and cognitive skills. I am doing my best to rise in the ladder ranks, and I honestly love the game. I'm great at other games, actually! "I decided to use my modeling to boost the gaming scene." That's the problem, though. Keep in mind, I'm not attacking you or trying to demean you, I'm just slightly offended at how effective marketing your sexuality is; I'm not offended at your exploiting it. | ||
HeliBadger
538 Posts
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Nightshade_
United States549 Posts
On May 24 2012 05:31 TaraBabcock wrote: I have been a gamer since I could remember, and I have all of my "gamer cred" on my stream page. I write for a gaming website, I have a gamer tattoo, I spend thousands of hours gaming, have dozens of consoles and hundreds of games. I decided to use my modeling to boost the gaming scene. Many of my viewers are new to TwitchTV/streaming, etc. and are now incredibly into it. I've gotten countless men, women, models, etc. to start playing games and I created my TwitchTV layout with the help of their admins to make sure everything is to their ToS standards. I also now have the support of GoSc and many influential male and female gaming personalities, too. That is the only thing I have to say in my defense. No need to fuel the ignorant fire further. As for being bad at gaming: StarCraft is a HARD game, that requires hours of practice, and cognitive skills. I am doing my best to rise in the ladder ranks, and I honestly love the game. I'm great at other games, actually! This actually ignores everything we have said and didn't address any issues we have brought up. We have a problem with your marketing sex for views over skill. It demeans women and gaming in general. You are turning our scene into a giant joke. | ||
TaraBabcock
United States391 Posts
Some people use "12 year old", or "Top-level Korean GM pro", to market their stream. I use what I've got, personality, gaming experience, and modeling/sexuality. I'm sorry that, to some people, that is not just as valid or moral. I promise you I have good intentions and mean to further gaming and eSports as a mainstream pass time and endeavor. <3 | ||
ELYSiUMlol
United States89 Posts
On May 24 2012 05:36 TaraBabcock wrote: No, I understand, ELYSiUMlol. Some people use "12 year old", or "Top-level Korean GM pro", to market their stream. I use what I've got, personality, gaming experience, and modeling/sexuality. I'm sorry that, to some people, that is not just as valid or moral. I promise you I have good intentions and mean to further gaming and eSports as a mainstream pass time and endeavor. <3 oh don't worry i don't actually care i actually just hate attentionwhores and the people that support them the thing is, "Top-level koeran GM pro" is actually a good thing, because, you're know, they're streaming gameplay and they're good at the game. | ||
Nightshade_
United States549 Posts
On May 24 2012 05:36 TaraBabcock wrote: No, I understand, ELYSiUMlol. Some people use "12 year old", or "Top-level Korean GM pro", to market their stream. I use what I've got, personality, gaming experience, and modeling/sexuality. I'm sorry that, to some people, that is not just as valid or moral. I promise you I have good intentions and mean to further gaming and eSports as a mainstream pass time and endeavor. <3 Renaming my stream to Male-stripper-stud Nightshade 12 year old Korean protoss streaming High KR Bronze ♥! | ||
TaraBabcock
United States391 Posts
I'll love, someday, marketing as a Plat+ level SC2 player AND model. Right now, I don't have any credentials like that to draw in viewers. Simply putting "Gamer with lots of heart and twice the games!" would be cute, but not effective. My point was that I am within the law, and TwitchTV ToS, and I am proud of my modeling career, gaming articles/work, and don't see anything wrong with making fun of myself and creating an interesting and different experience for gamers where they can feel mainstream and gaming coming together seamlessly! | ||
TaraBabcock
United States391 Posts
On May 24 2012 05:38 Nightshade_ wrote: Renaming my stream to Male-stripper-stud Nightshade 12 year old Korean protoss streaming High KR Bronze ♥! Let's be honest-- Mid-NA Bronze! That's like wood league on KR! | ||
ELYSiUMlol
United States89 Posts
On May 24 2012 05:41 TaraBabcock wrote: Sorry, Nightshade. I'll love, someday, marketing as a Plat+ level SC2 player AND model. Right now, I don't have any credentials like that to draw in viewers. Simply putting "Gamer with lots of heart and twice the games!" would be cute, but not effective. My point was that I am within the law, and TwitchTV ToS, and I am proud of my modeling career, gaming articles/work, and don't see anything wrong with making fun of myself and creating an interesting and different experience for gamers where they can feel mainstream and gaming coming together seamlessly! >My point was that I am within the law, and TwitchTV ToS i can eat my own shit and shave my pubic hair with a lawn mower and it's legal, so it's justified would upboat again | ||
Nightshade_
United States549 Posts
On May 24 2012 05:41 TaraBabcock wrote: Sorry, Nightshade. I'll love, someday, marketing as a Plat+ level SC2 player AND model. Right now, I don't have any credentials like that to draw in viewers. Simply putting "Gamer with lots of heart and twice the games!" would be cute, but not effective. My point was that I am within the law, and TwitchTV ToS, and I am proud of my modeling career, gaming articles/work, and don't see anything wrong with making fun of myself and creating an interesting and different experience for gamers where they can feel mainstream and gaming coming together seamlessly! Mia Rose already did this. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mia rose | ||
mbsupermario
United States101 Posts
Good luck Tara! I believe people like yourself have the potential to attract a demographic to the scene that would otherwise be clueless of its existence | ||
ELYSiUMlol
United States89 Posts
On May 24 2012 05:44 mbsupermario wrote: I personally don't find it demeaning for the community. Elysium, you make some good points that support your opinion, but remember... it's just an opinion. Please stop pushing your ideals as gospel. Good luck Tara! I believe people like yourself have the potential to attract a demographic to the scene that would otherwise be clueless of its existence why would we want a demographic that's literally only attracted to the tits i just don't understand sometimes | ||
TaraBabcock
United States391 Posts
'Tis a tad different, but yeah, it's not like there can be ONLY ONE! :D | ||
TaraBabcock
United States391 Posts
On May 24 2012 05:46 ELYSiUMlol wrote: why would we want a demographic that's literally only attracted to the tits i just don't understand sometimes Thanks Supah Mario! It's a demographic that may be just curious, or drawn in at first "by the tits", but one who will fall in love with the game and gaming, inevitably! Moar viewers (for whatever reason) = moar diverse gaming love! | ||
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