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On May 19 2012 22:54 PolishxThunder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2012 22:21 Sakray wrote: Btw to everyone saying that PvT imbalanced and heavily favored Protoss, here're the PvT stats of whole GSL : 172 (P) - (T) 230. That being said, no matter if you're P or Z in a GSL finals, almost everytime there's gonna be a T to stop you, sometimes with cheese.
I really wonder when a Protoss will win the GSL, it's been 1 year, srsly...we'll see at the next GSL if the 3 SF protoss are gonna perform as good as they did in this one. Your post is laughable Top 8 of this GSL, 5 protoss, 3 zerg, 1 terran. You say "almost everytime there's gonna be a T to stop you" No, there's going to be MvP to stop you.
So top 8 is 9 players ? Ok.
And you got it so wrong anyways...
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On May 19 2012 23:31 Baalthersar wrote: For a long time the last match reminded me of flash vs jaedong were both cheesed (proxy rax vs 4pool I believe). And it came down to micro and a few decisions.
Except Squirtle didn't cheese or at least didn't get to it yet..
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Wow, totally epic finals, never imagined all the games would be that exciting given squirtle's boring 2 base attacks and Mvp's aggressive play in the previous two rounds, but it was just incredible. So much tension. A great day for Starcraft 2 overall.
Mvp!!!
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On May 20 2012 00:12 trinxified wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2012 23:31 Baalthersar wrote: For a long time the last match reminded me of flash vs jaedong were both cheesed (proxy rax vs 4pool I believe). And it came down to micro and a few decisions. Except Squirtle didn't cheese or at least didn't get to it yet..
Why would he cheese when protosses greatest strength is to turtle into the late game?
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Some of these kids make me laugh so much, moaning about balance and the fact x didn't do this and x didn't do this, I can almost guarantee 80% of people who moan are plat or below. I'm Plat and I don't moan because I am absolutely NOWHERE NEAR the pros level of play, therefore I'm not in a position to moan or criticize anything about it because my favorite player lost. Get a grip people seriously.
And the post above me, people keep saying things like 'Bonjwa incoming!!' You do know that in BW Bonjwa's where determined on their domination and succession over a period of time, almost without losing, this is MVP's first championship in months, not until the game is a bit more evolved and someone wins 3 championships in a row and NOT getting knocked into code A/B the next season will we have a Bonjwa.
The word Bonjwa started being used for JulyZerg although he wasn't 'A Bonjwa' until sAviOr came along and absolutely destroyed his era, did they start naming people Bonjwa's, at this time Brood War was over 5 years old.
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wow i should have watched this i guess... 3-0 then 3-3 then 4-3
GJ mvp, great job squirtle
MVP 4x
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On May 19 2012 23:53 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2012 20:32 Dodgin wrote:On May 19 2012 20:30 Saracen wrote:On May 19 2012 20:27 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 19 2012 20:26 Saracen wrote:On May 19 2012 20:22 Ace1123 wrote:On May 19 2012 20:21 windsupernova wrote:On May 19 2012 20:20 Freak705 wrote: Anyone that thinks that Game 7 was not exciting is nuts. That was a micro clinic! This That! ^ It was really amazing all the micro involved and such decision making Really? MVP cheesed and won a game with subpar micro. Squirtle did no better. You honestly can't say it was one of the better games you've seen. sure if it was a ladder game it would just be an okay game, but as a game 7 of an insane GSL finals comeback after 6 macro games? HOLY DOUBLE BACK FLIP BATMAN So you're saying because MVP decided to cheese in the last game of a Bo7, that made the game good? It was good because you didn't know who was going to win for a good portion of the game, it only became obvious in the last few seconds. I was entertained. In fact I was sure MVP lost in game 7. Anyway, this is the finals I've been the less hyped for. I anticipated a non 4-0 serie, but I thought all games would suck hard. And even the bad games like game 1 weren't that bad as they were very tense with some critical moments (when Squirtle warped his 4 proxy stalkers), then while they're still warping he scouts the incoming medivac...that was a movie scenario =) Also the crowd was very good. GSL delivers again, forever the best ! <3
I even closed the player when the first cheese failed. I MISSED IT! T_T.
Not enough I missed the climax of game 5 due to internet problems.
Fuck my life.
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probably not a balance moan, but its hard to take this matchup seriously when terran has to turtle into mass BCs to stand a chance lategame, and protoss has to turtle to get their tech out before bio hits the critical mass, only to mow them down easily when storms and thermal lances come out.
it's still broken in all stages of the game and not being fixed. the win rates may be 50-50, so perhaps the balance is there, but the game is broken.
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On May 19 2012 22:54 PolishxThunder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2012 22:21 Sakray wrote: Btw to everyone saying that PvT imbalanced and heavily favored Protoss, here're the PvT stats of whole GSL : 172 (P) - (T) 230. That being said, no matter if you're P or Z in a GSL finals, almost everytime there's gonna be a T to stop you, sometimes with cheese.
I really wonder when a Protoss will win the GSL, it's been 1 year, srsly...we'll see at the next GSL if the 3 SF protoss are gonna perform as good as they did in this one. Your post is laughable Top 8 of this GSL, 5 protoss, 3 zerg, 1 terran. You say "almost everytime there's gonna be a T to stop you" No, there's going to be MvP to stop you.
This is my favourite post on all of TL. It couldn't be any more wrong if it tried.
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On May 19 2012 20:18 -y0shi- wrote: Seriously Im so mad right now... He pulled ALL his workers and didnt do any real damage and he still wins?! He lost all his workers and still plays on...HOW?! HOW IS THAT FAIR?! MAAAN... I hate this game... Seriously that should just not work, just not fair...
Im going to cry in a corner now....
There is a little kinda POWERFUL unit called mule that allow 1 base terran a little kinda retarded.
Amazing series with a disapointing final game.
Is really REALLY sad to see that "the trademark build" with 100 win% for mvp this season was a 5 min all in that is. Imho, this is way more important to adress for blizz than any other balance shit right now.
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This final and the DRG vs MMA final will go down in history as two of the best before the KeSPA era... Here's to the future!
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On May 20 2012 00:32 Belha wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2012 20:18 -y0shi- wrote: Seriously Im so mad right now... He pulled ALL his workers and didnt do any real damage and he still wins?! He lost all his workers and still plays on...HOW?! HOW IS THAT FAIR?! MAAAN... I hate this game... Seriously that should just not work, just not fair...
Im going to cry in a corner now.... There is a little kinda POWERFUL unit called mule that allow 1 base terran a little kinda retarded. Amazing series with a disapointing final game. Is really REALLY sad to see that "the trademark build" with 100 win% for mvp this season was a 5 min all in that is. Imho, this is way more important to adress for blizz than any other balance shit right now.
Squirtle should of won, forge = win, but he didn't. didn't you notice squirtle lost so many probes in pulling for the marines, try 2 raxing yourself, if you don't react properly you lose. Simple as that, nothing to do with mules.
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the Mothership will be missed in HotS
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On May 20 2012 00:27 shadymmj wrote: probably not a balance moan, but its hard to take this matchup seriously when terran has to turtle into mass BCs to stand a chance lategame, and protoss has to turtle to get their tech out before bio hits the critical mass, only to mow them down easily when storms and thermal lances come out.
it's still broken in all stages of the game and not being fixed. the win rates may be 50-50, so perhaps the balance is there, but the game is broken.
races are asymmetrical, oh noes!
u know that they were playing on metro right?
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Just watched sets five and seven again, so epic.
The crowd was electric today, I only turned up in time to see the end of game three, but I still got to see all of the best parts.
Cheers to everyone who came out today, and look out for an epic blog report by Seeker.
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It's written that only MMA can beat the true God of SC2, Mvp.
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After watching the game on metropolis my heart died and I have added pure hate to the love I have for starcraft. This game is completely broken. Archon toilet is just one example of how Protoss detroys this game. This is not about being a fanboy, MVP won but all I could think about is that Protoss is broken and it stops us all from playing a fair game in a true RTS fashion.
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On May 20 2012 00:44 Aserrin wrote: It's written that only MMA can beat the true God of SC2, Mvp.
What? That's your post in THIS thread? LolOlOlLoLOl
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For me best game was game 6 That was so tense. Game 7 too, just because I typed in the chat that it was over and MVP was dead, and suddenly : brilliance <3 Game 5 was too turtlely to my liking, even tho I still voted 5 stars because of the craziness, the island expos, the drops, half of the P army blocked on the island... A great day of starcraft and GSL defying all my expectations.
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