is completely unnecessary. Just being an ass.

Should spent part of the nighttime looking at people in the minority, since they were, for the most part, completely ignored in Phase B.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

May 02 2012 04:58 GMT

#602

I'm just mad.

I'm curious as to why Ace just said wiggles is scum and sandro is town.

EchelonTee

United States5201 Posts

May 02 2012 05:00 GMT

#603

Wait a minute. Prplhz has 2 votes in the recorded category, and 3 in the "illegal" category. 2 of those, gonzaw and Palmar, are indeed off limits, but there's an additional 1 vote on Sandroba that was considered illegal. What gives?

Also strange is how prplhz would've died had it not been for Radfield coming in.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6782 Posts

May 02 2012 05:02 GMT

#604

On May 02 2012 13:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm just mad.

I'm curious as to why Ace just said wiggles is scum and sandro is town.

I actually like Ace's reasoning on Wiggles however I'm not convinced sandro is town just because no one voted for him, there's always the chance (probably a big one) that his team considered him a lost cause until VE gave them a gift.

Sorry guys but I ate something bad and have spent most of my time on the pot since I got home, I'm not really gonna get anything done tonight so won't be doing any heavy lifting in the thread until tomorrow midday PST (after my first class).

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

May 02 2012 05:08 GMT

#605

On May 02 2012 13:42 Ace wrote:
Mr.Wiggles is Scum, sandroba is Town.

Wrong, right.

I'm pretty sure 2 mafia revealed themselves in the votes though.

EchelonTee

United States5201 Posts

May 02 2012 05:10 GMT

#606

Hey you got your account back M_Z :o

I think the opposite TBH; the fact that 8 unique voters were on Wiggles means jack. There were also 8 unique voters on you, 7 on me, and 6 on chaoser. Are we all suspicious for that? On the other hand, the fact that Sandroba was left in the dust suggests that scum teams saw him as an easy mislynch to leave behind.

EchelonTee

United States5201 Posts

May 02 2012 05:13 GMT

#607

On May 02 2012 13:12 Foolishness wrote:
More than one person has some explaining to do.

On May 02 2012 14:08 Foolishness wrote:

Show nested quote +

Wrong, right.

I'm pretty sure 2 mafia revealed themselves in the votes though.

I hope you plan on explaining these before the deadline. You are Foolishness, after all.

PM me if you want to talk, I'm keeping relatively quiet in thread for the night.

Mr. Wiggles

Canada5894 Posts

May 02 2012 05:17 GMT

#608

I don't think what Ace just said makes any sense. Can you explain the link between why if I have 8 unique voters that makes me scum? Then I can tell you why it's wrong.

gonzaw

Uruguay4911 Posts

May 02 2012 05:25 GMT

#609

I don't see how Wiggles having lots of unique voters on him makes him mafia.
Actually, if someone is town, he is supposed to get lots of votes from unique players, so I don't get why you state otherwise.

About sandroba:

VE said he would give his 5 votes to sandroba early enough. If sandroba is scum, then the scumteam would have been pretty confident sandroba would be saved, and would not even need to give him a single vote, specially once they saw VE didn't get a single vote either.
There were also a lot of last-minute claims/votes that shifted the amounts of votes each player had quite quickly, and his scumbuddies may have already sent their votes by that time.
For instance, like 10 minutes before the deadline I think Sheth or chaoser were going to be the lynch with 1 votes each or something. If sandroba is scum, and his scumbuddies weren't in those late-claimers, then I can see how they didn't give him any votes thinking he would be saved from the lynch (which to be honest he was, at least taking into account the prp vote malfunction).

However, if he's scum maybe scum could have at least shifted the attention towards someone else, since the sandroba lynch was in motion very quickly once Round B started. Again, this doesn't tell me much though.

It's speculation, but I don't see how it exempts him. He needs to come to the thread and do something.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 02 2012 06:03 GMT

#610

Sheth never bothered to explain to me why he claims gonzaw is playing according to his "scum meta" or has been "useless". Meanwhile he gave 4 votes to cephiro for "defending himself", "meta read" and because he has played games on irc with him. I don't think sheth has even played games with either of them before.

BC you aren't even playing the game, how unexpected

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6782 Posts

May 02 2012 06:07 GMT

#611

Hey guys, wanted to pop back in and mention that if you voted for me, I'll reciprocate that if you need it (with the obvious caveat that I have to find you protown).

Night.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 02 2012 06:20 GMT

#612

On May 02 2012 13:12 Foolishness wrote:
More than one person has some explaining to do.

Really, who? Why bother saying that and not naming any names

On May 02 2012 14:08 Foolishness wrote:

Show nested quote +

Wrong, right.

I'm pretty sure 2 mafia revealed themselves in the votes though.

Do you really think sandroba's team mates would have voted for him when he is completely afk and might just get flipped during the night?

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

May 02 2012 06:28 GMT

#613

If sandroba is mafia and you are his team mate, you don't even know how many votes it takes to save him, so you just risk linking yourself with him for no reason at all. It's completely ridiculous to clear him based on that.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

May 02 2012 09:19 GMT

#614

poor VE

i made some illegal votes because i had like no idea what i was doing, showed up for like 20 mins and i asked who i should vote and only one person PMd me with advice that i just followed and then i spread my votes across players i thought were town and then i went to bed. i honestly had no idea that some of them were in minority so you should just treat me as if my intentions were to save those five (cause that was what my intentions were).

also, the illegal vote for sandroba was actually for syllogism, i can ask protactinium if they will fix that if you don't believe me. and thanks to radfield for saving my ass.

Palmar

Iceland22630 Posts

May 02 2012 10:26 GMT

#615

I have no idea why Radfield gave votes to cephiro, I want him to explain that. VE flipping town is just bleh... he was playing like a complete dumbass, in PMs he actually mentioned being afraid of being shot night 1, which I called bullshit on immediately as there are a huge number of players who are normally priority mafia targets in games they play.

saving sandroba was dumb, seriously he's basically stopped playing the game, probably going to try and gamble on being on the minority side tomorrow, which in turn forces us to either scheme some kind of a ploy (ie, secretly tell people which side will end up majority) or just randomize it.

chaoser also gave 4 votes to cephiro. derp.

Palmar

Iceland22630 Posts

May 02 2012 10:28 GMT

#616

Can anyone explain the illegal votes?

Palmar

Iceland22630 Posts

May 02 2012 10:30 GMT

#617

Also cephiro, you still haven't explained in detail what you meant by my allies leaking information, were you seriously just trolling to fuck with me?

Palmar

Iceland22630 Posts

May 02 2012 10:35 GMT

#618

BC/Ace, can you explain why you decided to go for "No" in the first question? It was apparent that despite people not listening to me, yes was going to be the majority. Did you have a particular fear that being on the majority side would end up getting you killed?

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

May 02 2012 10:46 GMT

#619

On May 02 2012 19:28 Palmar wrote:
Can anyone explain the illegal votes?

uh i just did

i voted
1 palmar
1 syllogism
1 wiggles
1 radfield
1 gonzaw

and three of those votes were for people in the minority, not eligible for votes. illegal votes. it says that i voted for sandroba but i actually voted for syllogism.