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On May 01 2012 03:36 KingDime wrote: ^^^^ Your post is great until you added your last line. Actually, without the last line it has a pretty damn good ending point.
He was asking for it
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sort of ironic how its time for the gamers to grow up and you have "kid" in your name
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I knew this was an SC2 blog only because the majority of BW players are in their 20's both literally and figuratively.
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On May 01 2012 07:14 randomKo_Orean wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 07:03 Game wrote: I knew this was an SC2 blog only because the majority of BW players are in their 20's both literally and figuratively. Fuck man, I'm in my mid 20's - I joined TL when I was 16 and other SC websites when I was 14. What's the world coming to? I've been playing BW since 2005... it's hard to imagine I've done anything for 7 years that will never effect my life positively Edit: turning 24 next week lol
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On March 31 2012 09:44 Bobo_XIII wrote:Too much pompous, douchey self-righteousness in your post. This is so arrogant and smug it reads like something straight out of the cesspool of r/atheism. The only thing I'd agree with you is that some things need to change with the community Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 06:12 ComebackKid wrote:On March 30 2012 06:05 Drizzt3 wrote: so you massively stereotype the community, hate on gamers in general in every possible way, insult us profusely without any moral justification whatsoever, and then you have the guts to declare that you are one of us, and try to tell us what to do? your moral compass is so fucked up im surprised you can find your way around the parking lot of your boring shitty fucking IT job in the first place. if you dont like people, DONT TALK TO THEM. the inconsiderate opinion of a self-righteous prejudiced motherfucker like you isnt exactly convincing me I need to shower more or comb my hair. why hasn't this guy been banned for posting this shit yet? GG bro. ^^ Actually, shit like this needs more changing than what you described in your post. This passive-aggressive, 'umadbro' type of behavior is one of the most off putting things about the community.
agree 100%, passive aggressive stupid replies are the most immature response you can give.
Otherwise not too offended by this blog I tend to agree with some points Comebackid makes.
I just think he should have worded it a lot more along the lines of....
"Gamer culture is so opposite of the mainstream that it almost revels in its uncaring attitude. Whilst Gamer culture is fantstic in that it embraces people from all walks of life and is so non-judgemental we as Gamers shouldn't stop caring about what the rest of society thinks of us. There are those of us who think it's ok to juts roll out of bed in our own filth and go to a barcraft and then use excessively vulgar language when our favourite player dies to a cheese. These people are in the minority but I do wish that these people who seem to just not give a shit and revel in the fact that as a Gamer they don't need to adhere to societal norms.
I think this minority of gamers need to change their attitude. They don't need to develop metrosexual grooming habits or stop swearing all-together. Just a little bit of effort and discretion is all I ask for"
Think this hits the nail on the head a bit better imo.
Whaddya think comebackkid?
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Read it all and 5/5. Especially with your edit I agree 95%
Gamers need to at least try to "integrate" with normal society. Perhaps even appear to be a functioning member of said society. People with wives/kids can't still post goatse on a forum...
Great blog!
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On May 01 2012 10:46 PiGStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 09:44 Bobo_XIII wrote:Too much pompous, douchey self-righteousness in your post. This is so arrogant and smug it reads like something straight out of the cesspool of r/atheism. The only thing I'd agree with you is that some things need to change with the community On March 30 2012 06:12 ComebackKid wrote:On March 30 2012 06:05 Drizzt3 wrote: so you massively stereotype the community, hate on gamers in general in every possible way, insult us profusely without any moral justification whatsoever, and then you have the guts to declare that you are one of us, and try to tell us what to do? your moral compass is so fucked up im surprised you can find your way around the parking lot of your boring shitty fucking IT job in the first place. if you dont like people, DONT TALK TO THEM. the inconsiderate opinion of a self-righteous prejudiced motherfucker like you isnt exactly convincing me I need to shower more or comb my hair. why hasn't this guy been banned for posting this shit yet? GG bro. ^^ Actually, shit like this needs more changing than what you described in your post. This passive-aggressive, 'umadbro' type of behavior is one of the most off putting things about the community. agree 100%, passive aggressive stupid replies are the most immature response you can give. Otherwise not too offended by this blog I tend to agree with some points Comebackid makes. I just think he should have worded it a lot more along the lines of.... "Gamer culture is so opposite of the mainstream that it almost revels in its uncaring attitude. Whilst Gamer culture is fantstic in that it embraces people from all walks of life and is so non-judgemental we as Gamers shouldn't stop caring about what the rest of society thinks of us. There are those of us who think it's ok to juts roll out of bed in our own filth and go to a barcraft and then use excessively vulgar language when our favourite player dies to a cheese. These people are in the minority but I do wish that these people who seem to just not give a shit and revel in the fact that as a Gamer they don't need to adhere to societal norms. I think this minority of gamers need to change their attitude. They don't need to develop metrosexual grooming habits or stop swearing all-together. Just a little bit of effort and discretion is all I ask for" Think this hits the nail on the head a bit better imo. Whaddya think comebackkid?
totally man. I was raging a bit when I wrote this blog. and i have to say that it is a bit uncalled for. I mean, sure people are guna act immature and screw around and that's fine. It does suck when it negatively effects other people, or when it negatively effects the scene, but whatever, its all part of havin fun and just acting the way we wana act.
I still think that a bunch of pros need to grow up when they are streaming. That's probably my biggest peeve these days. When kids sit in their basement and act like duchebags and have a few hundered-thousand people watching them. But even then, not enough mainstream people are watching and we viewers have the choice to turn off the stream so it is what it is.
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I think a lot of gamers have some kind of grand utopian vision of what e-sports should be like, yet I don't think it will ever reach that level. People always want to talk about SC2 "going big", and they think in order to do that we need to completely change who we are as a community in order to fit in with what they perceive to be mainstream standards. But the main reason the game has become so popular is because of the community behind it. The "nerdy" community around starcraft 2 has what's driven SC2's success, so you can't really incite a call-to-arms to force the community to change, when its the community thats made the game so popular in the first place. You can't dig out the roots and expect the tree to still live.
That being said, I would like to see some standard's be raised, especially on the ladder. Opponents calling each other "nigger" and "Faggot" all the time certainly don't help the scene.
In the end though, a lot of excitement in the SC2 scenes comes from the drama and the controversy. And neutering ourselves will never be the make or break change that allows SC2 to grow bigger. Players should get mad when they lose, casters shouldn't be afraid to tell a risky joke once in a while, viewers should be allowed to swear out loud when their favorite player loses. its part of the lawlessness of the scene that makes it so fun. And besides, you'll see these type of things in other sports as well.
Also, I think a lot of SC2 fans are a lot more "normal" than you think. We're not all basement-trolls who disregard hygiene and social-manners.
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From what I have seen over the past year and a half, the community is growing up. The response to orb's use of racial slurs and the dramatic shift in responses to threads about transgender issues are signs of it - things I can talk to people in my real life about as evidence that slowly the culture is shifting. There is still a lot of change needed before all groups of people feel welcome in gaming, but the change is happening and it has been happening for a while.
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From my experience there are other people who are more likely call people nigger, faggot cuntheads. They're usually the average Joe you see on any night out.
Now while you do raise decent points, I feel most of them are borne out of close mindedness and ignorance. For example can you really eyeball the Barcraft crowd as being different from the football crowd from these pics apart from the gamer crowd having more blokes?
While we're here, I think all black people should wear less tracksuit bottoms and hoodies so people might not think they are all criminals and out to mug people (sarcasm of course).
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