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cmen15
United States1519 Posts
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ComebackKid
Canada105 Posts
It seems as though TL is helping to produce mature gamers who truly care about the community and our overall well being. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
People should cut out the childish behavior when it's rude and disrespectful, especially to people you care about, but fuck if I'm going to change behavior or stop being nerdy because of what your wife or friends think. Fuck her and fuck them too. And I'm sure they'd agree with the sentiment. I don't rage or use slurs very often, but i don't care about going mainstream and i certainly don't care about being awkward. Didn't you ever notice the coolest kids in school aren't the ones who are openly concerned about it? If someone is being rude, call them out on it but don't do it because of the way it makes your wife view your hobby. She's being a judgmental prick as well. | ||
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VeNoM HaZ Skill
United States1528 Posts
What? "Guys, my trendy friends think that everybody who watches football is an english skin-head, so if you could please advise your local skinheads to grow hair and stop race hating that would be awesome. That would save them from having to educate themselves and stop forming shitty preconceived notions." It can't be helped that your 'friends' choose to pick the lowest point of a community and judge the rest based on that. I am quite aware that a player in the NFL ran dogfights. I am also quite aware that white people started the KKK. But I am not so ignorant as to judge the whole by these pieces. The problem here isn't the gaming community, it's your uneducated, closed minded, blissfully ignorant friends. | ||
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ComebackKid
Canada105 Posts
Hopefully this helps my case. Hey all, I'm really enjoying all of the responses from all of you. Some of my thoughts on the responses: 1) Yeah, i'm preaching to the choir, but, hey, i'm blogging and i'm mostly doing this to just share my thoughts and get it out - so don't sweat it. Take it for what it is. Agree, disagree - its all good. 2) To those of you that think this blog isn't needed: Imagine a kid is sitting in his basement watching a popular Pro's stream and his mom walks in while he is watching. At that moment, the pro describes to a kid he is coaching that playing ZvT is like raping some chick... WHAT DO YOU THINK A MOM WOULD THINK ABOUT THIS!? Furthermore, what if that kid actually thought raping chicks was cool because this pro he looks up to mentioned it... WHAT IF... Also, a recent caster just got fired from a gig for using bad language. This subject is spinning around TL like crazy right now, and i just wanted to blog about some of these behaviors and stereotypes. 3) I wanted this blog to be controversial so that people would actually read it. Perhaps my issue is more personal than it is a community issue, like the one TLer pointed out (smart guy...) but hey, it's still a blog in the end and it's helping me get my thoughts and concerns out there, and i think it can only help the community by revisiting this issue and talking about it. In the end, I just want gamers to be accepted socially. And i want gaming to be accepted as a legit hobby that isn't frowned upon. I still feel like these are hurdles that our community has yet to over come. And I know we will conquer them in the end. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On March 30 2012 07:34 ComebackKid wrote: WHAT DO YOU THINK A MOM WOULD THINK ABOUT THIS!? I'm pretty sure you can play 'construct a situation that a conservative and unaware mother could take out of context and feel odd about' with just about anything. 'Oh honey, you're going to the field to dress in tights, tackle burly men, and grab balls? I think we need to talk!' | ||
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Drizzt3
United States189 Posts
On March 30 2012 06:51 ComebackKid wrote: LOL GG!!!!!!! I love blogging on TL!!! wow really? be more of a douche? | ||
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Drizzt3
United States189 Posts
On March 30 2012 07:34 ComebackKid wrote: Also, a recent caster just got fired from a gig for using bad language. This subject is spinning around TL like crazy right now, and i just wanted to blog about some of these behaviors and stereotypes. Orb didn't get fired for"using bad language." He got fired because a bunch of narrow-minded judgmental pricks like you who cant see past the image they see on a screen emailed EG's sponsors and forced EG to let him go. User was warned for this post | ||
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ComebackKid
Canada105 Posts
On March 30 2012 07:48 Drizzt3 wrote: Orb didn't get fired for"using bad language." He got fired because a bunch of narrow-minded judgmental pricks like you who cant see past the image they see on a screen emailed EG's sponsors and forced EG to let him go. Did you shower today Drizzt? Did you comb your hair? I may be judgmental and a duche, but so are you and youre justifying my post. | ||
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Spieltor
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ComebackKid
Canada105 Posts
On March 30 2012 07:48 Drizzt3 wrote: Orb didn't get fired for"using bad language." He got fired because a bunch of narrow-minded judgmental pricks like you who cant see past the image they see on a screen emailed EG's sponsors and forced EG to let him go. Did you shower today Drizzt? Did you comb your hair? Thanks for justifying my post. User was warned for this post | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
I think you should expect friends to be a little more critical in their thinking, if you took them to a BarCraft I'd doubt that they'd see a bunch of lazy smelly social rejects that only play games and leech of society. Sure do your best to show the positive sides of our gaming culture, but don't be too insecure to take a stand for it either. | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11583 Posts
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CyDe
United States1010 Posts
On March 30 2012 03:38 TubbyIsAwesome wrote: It's funny how you act like you're a part of the community. Noone on TL gives a damn about what you say on here. You're a cute one. @OP Anyway, back on topic. You will notice that many people from other sports are not particularly polite or anything. Not that I follow it, but have you seen the riots that occur after major games in countries? Hell, when I lived in West Africa we had to stay inside of our houses after soccer game because of the riots that would occur; REGARDLESS of whether they won or lost. If anything, the worst of the gamer community cannot really be considered that bad. At least their anger is pretty channeled, only subjecting one or three people to some anger. A riot can affect dozens of people, and have longer term effects. You don't see gamers going out on the street calling people, "Nigger faggot." The people you do describe as being the real "crud" of the gamer community usually are people who wouldn't do any of that stuff in real life. I think that the respect that needs to be gained for eSports and games in general is not one reflective on the community, but on the activity itself. People just don't take games seriously, and why should they? For the first 20 years or so of their existence, they were pretty mindless. The stereotype has been pretty harshly ingrained. | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
On March 30 2012 08:04 ComebackKid wrote: Did you shower today Drizzt? Did you comb your hair? Thanks for justifying my post. User was warned for this post Not helping yourself here man. | ||
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Spieltor
327 Posts
On March 30 2012 09:01 CaucasianAsian wrote: I don't understand this... The majority of the people I know in the scene are awesome, friendly, extremely sociable people, who just have a passion for gaming and it's competitive scene. more or less. Most people I know are gamers, this blog sounds like an elaborately constructed troll of stereotypical design. On March 30 2012 09:14 SKTerran.117 wrote: this reminds me of last weekend, mlg sunday I was visiting a friend in richmond (I'm from VA) and decided to check out the barcraft they had going on. As I drove by the place I saw two people standing outside smoking, one of them was wearing a zerg shirt. I kept driving, it was that bad lol. Maybe I am an ass for being that judgemental, but they honestly did not look like people I would want to be associated with. I'm not ashamed of my hobby, I wear a sc2 terran jacket (weather pending) on almost a daily basis, but I have standards :p and then a new contender appears, brandishing an anti-zerg sign. | ||
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KingDime
Canada750 Posts
For example, I could easily call TL a pretentious forum for douchebags which is unfair as theres a wide community of people who do not act at all like this notion. I'm also from calgary and I feel like CBK's points do not come out all that well in writing, awesome guy but according to how I know him in RL he could definitely play out his point far better in a conversation. I feel like it's fine to bring up these points but the execution wasn't perfect. | ||
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FainRaVen
Canada24 Posts
On March 30 2012 03:58 FlamingForce wrote: You strike a few good points but most of it is just telling people to start caring about what others think of them Which, to an extent, one should do, but definitly not to the extent that you're implying here. You do realise you only do diss service to your self when you present poorly. Why do you get dressed up for job interviews. why do you dress up for a date. Why do you put on something nice when you go out to see friends. Not because at the end of the day it matters how they feel about you that dose not make you who you are but you only hurt your self looking like a slob. I feel the extent was half as accusing as it could have been i would love to point the finger at a handful of SC2 people in this community. I Agree with CBK's point. I never fit the stereo types i actual grew up with CBK. We played soccer together skate boarded along side of gaming but most people never knew about the gaming were were jocks and skaters. I actual have had tons of thoughts on this matter. Back when i was younger i played Half-life Team fortress classic and the community was a joke. Mainly full of degenerates that would talk about raping you and vulgar matters. It is a toxic attitude and starts to wear on you. you start to feel that that normal and act the same way towards others. Its amazing how sometimes the internet feels like something you can hide behind. Be a jerk and no one will call you on it. Ive been guilty of it and its not right. Now that SC2 is going more mainstream. I feel we need to present are selves as such. Spend the effort if your going to a gaming event to get cleaned up and ready to go out like you would to any major event. Yes last weekend i spent almost all weekend watching MLG and talking with people about it. I have had fun watching this community grow and i love to see that some people are willing to make a stand. | ||
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ComebackKid
Canada105 Posts
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). Those who are truly pricks get weeded out quickly.
