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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11583 Posts
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plated.rawr
Norway1676 Posts
The "problem" you're portraying is the stereotype gamers are viewed with, which in no way is related to how gamers act in real life. The basement dwelling, fat-monster living in his mom's basement stereotype might have been true for a minority of gamers during the 80s and 90s, but it's really nonexsisting currently. Again, from my personal experience. More than gamers changing their real-life behaviour, I think non-gamers needs to re-evaluate their prejudgements relating to gamers, or at least allow themselves to experience gamer culture rather than blindly judging it without knowing anything about it. | ||
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
On March 30 2012 03:13 ComebackKid wrote: My wife, for example, still discriminates towards gamers. One of the main reasons why she doesn't like that I game is because I associate myself with greasy, nerdy, perverted people who get fat and are socially awkward. My wife isn't the only one who thinks this way. A lot of my other "cool" or "trendy" friends (i'm huge into folk music so the majority of my friends aren't "gamers") also think of gamers the same way. Even some of my work colleagues feel the same way about gamers and when i tell them i enjoy playing SC2 A LOT they are shocked that someone like me would enjoy such a thing, and when i tell them i like going to the local barcraft they almost roll over into their graves they are so shocked. So I sit here and I think about all of these peoples oppinions and i am bothered. Not personally. But i am bothered that perhaps there are some gamers out there who still represent these stereotypes... Oh you're bothered. I think the one who needs to grow up here is you, your wife and your friends. Since you even highlight that you're not bothered personally, this + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://ifeelokay.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/stephen-fry-on-being-offended.jpg) Btw. I'm bothered by people like you <3 | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
On March 31 2012 05:36 plated.rawr wrote: The "problem" you're portraying is the stereotype gamers are viewed with, which in no way is related to how gamers act in real life. The basement dwelling, fat-monster living in his mom's basement stereotype might have been true for a minority of gamers during the 80s and 90s, but it's really nonexsisting currently. Again, from my personal experience. You've obviously never been to a Magic: the Gathering Grand Prix recently. | ||
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SnipedSoul
Canada2158 Posts
Btw, I'm appalled that you hang around with folk music fans. It's common knowledge that they're all hippies who do drugs all day. Get a grip on your life man! (Not serious, just trying to point out how absurd this all is.) | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
Problem: You think the gaming community is rude, anti-social and degenerate. Quandary: You are a nice person, and don't want to be lumped in with the rude, anti-social and degenerate gamers. Solution: Tell everyone to change their behavior so it won't reflect as poorly on yourself. You can't change society, and you can't change the gaming community. The person you can change is yourself, though. | ||
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Bobo_XIII
United States429 Posts
Actually, shit like this needs more changing than what you described in your post. This passive-aggressive, 'umadbro' type of behavior is one of the most off putting things about the community. | ||
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plated.rawr
Norway1676 Posts
On March 31 2012 06:14 sam!zdat wrote: You've obviously never been to a Magic: the Gathering Grand Prix recently. Nope, only local Magic events such as drafts. Again, the same type of people appear here as the ones I described above - either shy and polite, or very friendly and very outgoing. Of course, this could just be a reflection of the general country population. If you tend to meet the stereotype of gamers in your events, maybe that's just because how people in general are in your area. | ||
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B.I.G.
3251 Posts
On March 30 2012 04:31 blubbdavid wrote: football or football? here in switzerland, these hooligans (or ultras, how they like to call themselves) are a fairly big issue. football ofcourse  hooligans are a problem here as well, I'm just saying it doesnt influence the sport itself (imo). | ||
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Weebem-Na
United States221 Posts
If you hear someone "say sexist things around their waitress", go call them out on it. Loudly. If you see someone who looks too dirty to be at an event and it really bothers you, go tell them that. If you see someone being an asshole on stream and it pisses you off, get on their twitter and call them out. I doubt I would be as bothered as you by these situations, but I'm not certain on that it really depends on how bad the comments were and if the dirty people are also really smelly. Now that I think about it (I try to think before posting), you are kind of calling people out here.. | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
My life experience is hockey so i'll stick to that but looking back at minor leagues (you could relate that to plat, gold, diamond ladder), everyone on the ice is yelling at each other saying stupid shit like fags, assholes, fucker, I fucked your mom... etc. I would think it also happened in football, baseball, soccer, and basketball to just name a few. Hell, even look at leagues like NHL, NFL, NBA when the media gets a candid mic moment of players saying racial, sexiest, homophobic slurs at each other, in social interactions where a competitive aspect is happening, these things tend to happen (whether we agree with them or not). I don't understand why gamers should have to uphold their sense of dignity just so the outside world will accept us. I dunno, just my two cents. | ||
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Ricjames
Czech Republic1047 Posts
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
I see this as a larger problem when all the gamers here and outside are hyped up about "eSports". Money alone does not automatically legitimize an activity as a sport - it needs a community. I'd like to believe that TL is one of the best moderated and mature gaming communities available. I know that there has been a lot of disagreements and angry reactions to this thread, but maybe more of these threads will prompt a few people to shape up, so to speak. | ||
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
On April 03 2012 23:06 OpticalShot wrote: Perhaps you put it a tad too bluntly for this community, but in large I agree with your post. As the #1 gamer in the crowds I hang out with, I take all sorts of jokes and insults about the stuff you mentioned here (hygiene, fetishes, apm, etc.). They don't mean it in the literal sense when they say it (I do shower everyday, thank you, and I'm probably the most physically fit of all my friends), but instead they're just poking fun at the general image of a hardcore gamer in today's world. I see this as a larger problem when all the gamers here and outside are hyped up about "eSports". Money alone does not automatically legitimize an activity as a sport - it needs a community. I'd like to believe that TL is one of the best moderated and mature gaming communities available. I know that there has been a lot of disagreements and angry reactions to this thread, but maybe more of these threads will prompt a few people to shape up, so to speak. There is no problem. There is no "legitimizing an activity as a sport" and even if there is, it's unimportant and it certainly has nothing to do with the community engaged in the activity. Please stop making excuses to cover up for your own inability to cope with people being different. Some of you guys are so zealotic about the so-called esports that your posts slowly start to sound like some sort of dictator speeches. You're creeping me out here and I'm afraid people might begin to look down on me for browsing these forums  Which gets me to what I think you're really saying here: "Dear asocial brethren, please socialize yourselves so that I don't have to feel ashamed because of you." Admit it and deal with the fact that the logical response of most if not all of the people you're refering to will be: "No." or worse. | ||
intrigue
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
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TERRANLOL
United States626 Posts
Sometimes the online community can be pretty immature. Stream chats in particular. That's something I would personally like to see cleaned up, but I think as far as eradicating that bad reputation we have, we're moving as quickly as would be possible for the situation we're in. | ||
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Half
United States2554 Posts
I don't think the same attitudes will be shared by the coming generation. There isn't really a need to compromise a culture to achieve what will happen anyway, and no, by that I don't mean that stopping the excessive use of sexually laden profanity is a bad thing, I mean that an overt community effort to condemn that kind of natural behavior will have negative effects. Imagine a kid is sitting in his basement watching a popular Pro's stream and his mom walks in while he is watching. At that moment, the pro describes to a kid he is coaching that playing ZvT is like raping some chick... WHAT DO YOU THINK A MOM WOULD THINK ABOUT THIS!? Furthermore, what if that kid actually thought raping chicks was cool because this pro he looks up to mentioned it... WHAT IF... I don't know what she might think, but what she should be thinking is that we live in a violent, narcissitic culture that revels in violence and depradation of entertainment. Don't kid yourself for a second that the reason why such language isn't used in the sports world is because people who watch sports are intrinsically more cultured. Rather, their enterprise is simply more structured so that such behavior is censored and doesn't make it past the woodwork. Censorship isn't good, its basically a form of denying harsh realities people don't want to be exposed to. Plus, another example, such language does exist in pop-music, and anyone who thinks listening to Tupac means you condone gangrape is a tremendous retard. | ||
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MaGariShun
Austria305 Posts
I'm pretty antisocial because I chose to be so. Please don't tell me that - just because it is your mainstream view - i should not be how i am. My best friends (and by the time probably the only ones) are what you call stereotype gamers, but to me they are still 100x better than "normal people". I talk about nerdy stuff because it's what interests me and don't care what other people (probably talking about how drunk they were last weekend - now that's meaningful) think about it. I dress up however it floats my boat because I couldn't care less about arbitrary social dressing code and aesthetic guidelines propagated through commercials. Maybe you should stop worrying about what your "trendy friends" think about you? Please tell your "trendy friends" a sincere "fuck you nigger faggot!", cause that's how I think about them | ||
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KingDime
Canada750 Posts
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