EPTHeres what happened last game. Last game, he got called on for being way to aggressive and made these big hard to understand posts. So, he came into this game saying that he was going to change it up.
Well, what has happened this time around.
1. Hes been lurking/not posting much at all
2. He keeps insisting that we should get rid of a lurker because they're a big problem
3. His meta is totally different. not just in that hes not as aggressive; His posts dont really have ANY analysis of his own, and he hasnt been pressured at all. This is NOT an acceptable meta change.
Initial question for BlueyD: If you were/are having a "Lurkers must die" stance, Why did you have so much of a problem with Macheji possibly getting modkilled? You have to say that he was lurking and posting nothing useful in the beginning. If you still want a lurker lynch after day 1, why would that have been such a big deal? you also mention that we would be 5-3 if we mislynch. 4-3 isnt really any different as its LYLO.
This game, BlueyD and Therapist are the ultimate "Slip-by-ers." I think BlueyD even more so.
On April 15 2012 00:33 BlueyD wrote:
Do your own analysis, and if you think you have a better case than what's being discussed then POST IT.
Do your own analysis, and if you think you have a better case than what's being discussed then POST IT.
Here goes. In the beginning of the game, BlueyD does standard play. telling town how to do things. we all do this, thats okay.
On April 15 2012 13:12 BlueyD wrote:
On Nova's voting behavior: Nova played in my previous 2 games so he saw what happened there: First wave of D1 votes came in late, we had very little time to do post-voting analysis, and the resulting situation was chaotic. The intention here is probably just to try and put on 'real' pressure on lurkers earlier so the latter parts of the day is cleaner. A bit spammy but not a scummy move.
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To oneplus: Just 2 questions aimed at you to show you why 1. saying no-lynch is bad, and 2. having a leader is very bad.
1. How do we pressure scum D1 if we agree to no-lynch?
2. What if the ‘town leader’ who makes the decisions for you is actually scum?
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era was very active last game, though more in terms of quantity than in terms of quality. Haven’t seen him post since the start of this game yet, though, so my first vote goes to him.
##Vote:era
On Nova's voting behavior: Nova played in my previous 2 games so he saw what happened there: First wave of D1 votes came in late, we had very little time to do post-voting analysis, and the resulting situation was chaotic. The intention here is probably just to try and put on 'real' pressure on lurkers earlier so the latter parts of the day is cleaner. A bit spammy but not a scummy move.
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To oneplus: Just 2 questions aimed at you to show you why 1. saying no-lynch is bad, and 2. having a leader is very bad.
1. How do we pressure scum D1 if we agree to no-lynch?
2. What if the ‘town leader’ who makes the decisions for you is actually scum?
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era was very active last game, though more in terms of quantity than in terms of quality. Haven’t seen him post since the start of this game yet, though, so my first vote goes to him.
##Vote:era
Now its time to begin looking at one of the most common things in blueyD's filter. soft defense. From now on, i'll bold all the soft defense in his filter. There is a good amount of Buddying going on.
On April 16 2012 10:26 BlueyD wrote:
I wanna see more from Macheji and oneplus. Oneplus hasn’t replied to me, so:
##Vote: oneplus
We lost too much time and space arguing about lynch vs no-lynch already. We have to lynch, and that’s it. Enough about policy, now let’s look at people.
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Specifically, the people who sided for a no-lynch, or 'not against'.
On therapist: His stance seems to me like an overreaction to last game, but at least there was a developed thought process behind it. Needs to let go of policy discussion and contribute on analyzing people now, though.
On oneplus: Asked for a no-lynch in his one and only post, and he’s inactive as well... Can’t read more into him until he posts again.
On Solohan: Was already enquiring about the possibility of a no-lynch before he knew his role, so I’m inclined to say he actually thinks no-lynch is a move a town should consider seriously, which makes him... bad.
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On Daymor: In chronological order...
A little precision right after, nothing wrong with it:
No-lynch is talked about a bunch, he seems to think it would be ok:
And then, he ‘clarifies’ and no-lynch goes from ok to good:
Now that’s more interesting. This guy’s opinion managed to go from “lurker lynch” to “no-lynch ok” to “no-lynch preferable”. That’s the wrong direction for a townie entirely.
I wanna see more from Macheji and oneplus. Oneplus hasn’t replied to me, so:
##Vote: oneplus
We lost too much time and space arguing about lynch vs no-lynch already. We have to lynch, and that’s it. Enough about policy, now let’s look at people.
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Specifically, the people who sided for a no-lynch, or 'not against'.
On therapist: His stance seems to me like an overreaction to last game, but at least there was a developed thought process behind it. Needs to let go of policy discussion and contribute on analyzing people now, though.
On oneplus: Asked for a no-lynch in his one and only post, and he’s inactive as well... Can’t read more into him until he posts again.
On Solohan: Was already enquiring about the possibility of a no-lynch before he knew his role, so I’m inclined to say he actually thinks no-lynch is a move a town should consider seriously, which makes him... bad.
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On Daymor: In chronological order...
A little precision right after, nothing wrong with it:
No-lynch is talked about a bunch, he seems to think it would be ok:
And then, he ‘clarifies’ and no-lynch goes from ok to good:
Now that’s more interesting. This guy’s opinion managed to go from “lurker lynch” to “no-lynch ok” to “no-lynch preferable”. That’s the wrong direction for a townie entirely.
I find this post a bit funny, as it starts off with BlueyD saying that we need to forget about all of the discussions with no-lynches. then he bases his entire post on said no-lynch discussion. This seemed to me like a move to throw a bit of suspicion on a couple people, and if they defended their opinion he could just say no more discussion on no-lynch. So this post is pretty much a post that makes him look contributing, allows him to seem as if hes analyzing, and doesnt really say anothing other than Therapist-post more oneplus-null read Solohan-bad Daymor-wrong idea. Just casting suspicion without really saying anything (and contradicting himself from beginning of post).
On April 17 2012 02:39 BlueyD wrote:
On oneplus: I’m still a bit suspicious. First post was bad and I expected an idiot, but then oneplus shows himself capable of at least some analysis afterwards – did he get help? I still don’t get why Nova and Lazer insisting on a lynch is scummy at all - I note that I did it as well and I’m not being targeted, so it looked a bit like a case of tunnel vision to me - and after that he mostly falls back on a “what the other guys said is what I was thinking but I couldn’t express it (not actual quote)” line for the rest of his case, and we don’t know if that’s true.
Might be his poor English preventing him from explaining by himself earlier, but I would have liked him to try. Right now we don’t know what he was really thinking when he started pushing. The second language excuse could be entirely true, or it could mostly be convenient.
Still he’s active and not particularly scummy, so I’ll take my vote off of him.
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On Nova_Terra : To me he looks like a guy who’s not worrying at all about his own safety, which is more of a town element than a scum element.
- I don’t think we can read anything from “Okay, thank god, not mafia :D”. Guy has been scum 2/3 times. Unnecessary but not inconsistent with being town.
- Calling Solo scummy with no explanation: Sounds more like a careless townie move than a scum move to me. Scum are paranoid about getting caught and make cases carefully. I think it was stupid to expect Solo to accuse himself and I also think Nova’s case was weak, but it reads more like bad town than scum to me.
- Voting behavior: Spammy, but not scummy. His meta can be described as “hyperactive” as both scum and town so he really doesn’t need that voting stuff to help him look active. Done with no consideration of the fact that this might make him suspect.
Nova knows how to not be a target (see both games as scum where he lasted to the end), so why isn’t he doing it this time? It could simply be that he’s scum and he’s failing really, really hard this time… or it could be that he’s town and scumhunting, not surviving, is his #1 priority. Not convinced by the case on him.
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##Vote: TheRavensName
Lurker lynch, in the absence of a really good case. Macheji is less active but he doesn’t seem to be here at all... He might be modkilled/replaced. By contrast, TheRavensName has showed up at different times of the day, but only has a bunch of short posts with zero analysis to show for it.
On oneplus: I’m still a bit suspicious. First post was bad and I expected an idiot, but then oneplus shows himself capable of at least some analysis afterwards – did he get help? I still don’t get why Nova and Lazer insisting on a lynch is scummy at all - I note that I did it as well and I’m not being targeted, so it looked a bit like a case of tunnel vision to me - and after that he mostly falls back on a “what the other guys said is what I was thinking but I couldn’t express it (not actual quote)” line for the rest of his case, and we don’t know if that’s true.
Might be his poor English preventing him from explaining by himself earlier, but I would have liked him to try. Right now we don’t know what he was really thinking when he started pushing. The second language excuse could be entirely true, or it could mostly be convenient.
Still he’s active and not particularly scummy, so I’ll take my vote off of him.
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On Nova_Terra : To me he looks like a guy who’s not worrying at all about his own safety, which is more of a town element than a scum element.
- I don’t think we can read anything from “Okay, thank god, not mafia :D”. Guy has been scum 2/3 times. Unnecessary but not inconsistent with being town.
- Calling Solo scummy with no explanation: Sounds more like a careless townie move than a scum move to me. Scum are paranoid about getting caught and make cases carefully. I think it was stupid to expect Solo to accuse himself and I also think Nova’s case was weak, but it reads more like bad town than scum to me.
- Voting behavior: Spammy, but not scummy. His meta can be described as “hyperactive” as both scum and town so he really doesn’t need that voting stuff to help him look active. Done with no consideration of the fact that this might make him suspect.
Nova knows how to not be a target (see both games as scum where he lasted to the end), so why isn’t he doing it this time? It could simply be that he’s scum and he’s failing really, really hard this time… or it could be that he’s town and scumhunting, not surviving, is his #1 priority. Not convinced by the case on him.
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##Vote: TheRavensName
Lurker lynch, in the absence of a really good case. Macheji is less active but he doesn’t seem to be here at all... He might be modkilled/replaced. By contrast, TheRavensName has showed up at different times of the day, but only has a bunch of short posts with zero analysis to show for it.
More soft defense. I think BlueyD realizes that the way to make townie-Nova not suspect someone is to say that hes not scummy.
On April 18 2012 07:58 BlueyD wrote:
1. Macheji hadn’t voted, surely you saw that, so I can only imagine your post means “I thought he’d vote really soon.”
2.
4 minutes to read the thread and vote, and he was considering maybe making a case? The guy had no idea that the lynch was (we thought) so close. “I’ll vote really soon” was obviously not in his list of priorities, and I can't see how you would think it was. Let's just ask him:
To macheji: When did you think the lynch was before you read “vote now!” in the thread?
3. Back to Nova, whose more worried posts share one particularity: They both happen after what we thought was the deadline, when votes are typically not counted anymore.
That’s not a convincing reason to me at all. Sounds a bit scummy to me.
On Lazer and Nova: Suspicious of both at this point, probably at LEAST one scum between the two. Not sold on both being scum though, I think there’s a good possibility of scum + fool buddy here – I say we look to see if 1 the 2 was trying to buddy up with the other before the connection was pointed out, and lynch that one first. Town don’t try to buddy up because they don’t want to fall on a scum. Scum know their buddy is town.
I wanted to read both filters and compare but I gave up for the moment, didn’t have this much time this afternoon. STOP SPAMMING NOVA. You have 6 pages of posts already… -_-
On Daymor: On the good side, he’s contributing, but I’m not a big fan of how he changed his stance on both lynch vs no-lynch and Nova vs oneplus, though he did have reasons that don’t seem too far-fetched both times. I’m going to say cautiously leaning town for now, but if I die you guys have to watch for more flip-flops as I’m doing now and see if they mean anything.
To Lorant:Council is stupid or scummy, I don’t see the point in it, I don’t see the point in even talking about it besides wasting space. It can’t make people more logical than now, it can only make them more sheepish. You need to tell us why you feel Pure is scummy, by the way. ‘Gut feeling’ won’t do.
A lot of good stuff in Pure’s and Daymor’s posts already, so I tried to go where they didn’t.
Gotta go right after the flip if I want to catch the next bus back home, will see if I can analyze some more later tonight.
1. Macheji hadn’t voted, surely you saw that, so I can only imagine your post means “I thought he’d vote really soon.”
2.
4 minutes to read the thread and vote, and he was considering maybe making a case? The guy had no idea that the lynch was (we thought) so close. “I’ll vote really soon” was obviously not in his list of priorities, and I can't see how you would think it was. Let's just ask him:
To macheji: When did you think the lynch was before you read “vote now!” in the thread?
3. Back to Nova, whose more worried posts share one particularity: They both happen after what we thought was the deadline, when votes are typically not counted anymore.
That’s not a convincing reason to me at all. Sounds a bit scummy to me.
On Lazer and Nova: Suspicious of both at this point, probably at LEAST one scum between the two. Not sold on both being scum though, I think there’s a good possibility of scum + fool buddy here – I say we look to see if 1 the 2 was trying to buddy up with the other before the connection was pointed out, and lynch that one first. Town don’t try to buddy up because they don’t want to fall on a scum. Scum know their buddy is town.
I wanted to read both filters and compare but I gave up for the moment, didn’t have this much time this afternoon. STOP SPAMMING NOVA. You have 6 pages of posts already… -_-
On Daymor: On the good side, he’s contributing, but I’m not a big fan of how he changed his stance on both lynch vs no-lynch and Nova vs oneplus, though he did have reasons that don’t seem too far-fetched both times. I’m going to say cautiously leaning town for now, but if I die you guys have to watch for more flip-flops as I’m doing now and see if they mean anything.
To Lorant:Council is stupid or scummy, I don’t see the point in it, I don’t see the point in even talking about it besides wasting space. It can’t make people more logical than now, it can only make them more sheepish. You need to tell us why you feel Pure is scummy, by the way. ‘Gut feeling’ won’t do.
A lot of good stuff in Pure’s and Daymor’s posts already, so I tried to go where they didn’t.
Gotta go right after the flip if I want to catch the next bus back home, will see if I can analyze some more later tonight.
The part that needs the most note here is how BlueyD throws suspicion on 4 people in one post. Says that Lazer or I is scum, but doesnt post anything related to who. If he had died here, all we would have is two people that BlueyD thought were scummy and 1 was mafia. Next, he notes Daymor again for flip flop behavior, and then notes lorant for a stupid or scummy council idea and, as FF puts it, bulldogs for Pure.
BlueyD still hasnt posted any original analysis that isnt contradicting. just some suspicion throwing overviews, setting him up for an easy town lynch later.
On April 18 2012 14:10 BlueyD wrote:
Pure’s case on Lazer is very good in my opinion. Just want to add something on the whole Nova-Lazer connection:
- Nova is the first of the Nova-Lazer pair to agree to lurker lynch
- Nova is the first to call Solo scummy
- Nova has his vote on macheji when Lazer puts his on the same player
- Nova asks Solohan to find his own suspicious behavior, Lazer says Solo should respond
- When oneplus calls them out, Lazer is the one who first turns on the other.
These aren’t really buddies. This is Lazer trying to ride on Nova’s wave, and he gets off the wave right as Nova gets suspicious in some people’s eyes. This is not something we can really hold against Nova in my opinion. This is certainly something that makes Lazer suspicious.
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Just… Wow, Lorant…After you made a big deal about Nova “betraying the trust” of oneplus and being unfit as leader and trying to take the aforementioned leadership for a 4 man council handpicked by you, you post a joke end-of-night post. I don’t know what to make of this. Looks a bit scummy to me, but on the other hand, that post is such a joke… It’s too easy. You even bring up the stupid council-of-4 again after people have attacked you for it.
Please stop fooling around and play the game. Defend yourself.
1. I’ll ask you to explain why you left us nothing (not even a quick list of reads) in case of your death, and I’ll ask you what your current scumreads are.
2. Also, in case it got buried, I’ll say it again: I’d also like you to explain why you flagged Pure_SC2 as scum. I mean, reasons other than ‘your gut’.
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To Daynor: That’s an interesting suggestion. We do have a lurker problem, but I think your solution is too radical unless we can get a really good case on a lurker. I remind you, that if we mislynch we’re at 5vs3 (MYLO) tomorrow, and with mandatory lynching MYLO is essentially the same as LYLO.
I think we should concentrate on getting the most scummy person now that we have a lot of info out. I also do think we should start making cases on our less active players. I will do that tomorrow, for now I have to sleep.
Pure’s case on Lazer is very good in my opinion. Just want to add something on the whole Nova-Lazer connection:
- Nova is the first of the Nova-Lazer pair to agree to lurker lynch
- Nova is the first to call Solo scummy
- Nova has his vote on macheji when Lazer puts his on the same player
- Nova asks Solohan to find his own suspicious behavior, Lazer says Solo should respond
- When oneplus calls them out, Lazer is the one who first turns on the other.
These aren’t really buddies. This is Lazer trying to ride on Nova’s wave, and he gets off the wave right as Nova gets suspicious in some people’s eyes. This is not something we can really hold against Nova in my opinion. This is certainly something that makes Lazer suspicious.
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Just… Wow, Lorant…After you made a big deal about Nova “betraying the trust” of oneplus and being unfit as leader and trying to take the aforementioned leadership for a 4 man council handpicked by you, you post a joke end-of-night post. I don’t know what to make of this. Looks a bit scummy to me, but on the other hand, that post is such a joke… It’s too easy. You even bring up the stupid council-of-4 again after people have attacked you for it.
Please stop fooling around and play the game. Defend yourself.
1. I’ll ask you to explain why you left us nothing (not even a quick list of reads) in case of your death, and I’ll ask you what your current scumreads are.
2. Also, in case it got buried, I’ll say it again: I’d also like you to explain why you flagged Pure_SC2 as scum. I mean, reasons other than ‘your gut’.
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To Daynor: That’s an interesting suggestion. We do have a lurker problem, but I think your solution is too radical unless we can get a really good case on a lurker. I remind you, that if we mislynch we’re at 5vs3 (MYLO) tomorrow, and with mandatory lynching MYLO is essentially the same as LYLO.
I think we should concentrate on getting the most scummy person now that we have a lot of info out. I also do think we should start making cases on our less active players. I will do that tomorrow, for now I have to sleep.
BlueyD jumps on the Pure vs Lazer bandwagon, which was set up well by his previous post. no problem for him because of it. Then he notes that i am probably not an accomplice, which kind of makes me feel good as *someone* doesnt feel that i am Lazers accomplice. BlueyD Knows how i play from the previous games. He knows that if he defends me somewhat, i will be much less suspicious of him, because of my ego.
Then BlueyD grunts more at Lorant, telling him to get away from Pure. I think that he is trying to set up for a different possible lynch here.
Next post is just a response to Daymor
And finally,
On April 19 2012 15:04 BlueyD wrote:
My scumreads right now are the 3 Ls: Lazer, Lorant, and a Lurker.
See Pure’s case and my own comments on Lazer, this case need not be remade. This is the scum I’m most sure of, and so...
##Vote: Lazermonkey
I’ll concentrate on sniffing out the remaining 2 scum. Here’s a case for you:
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Lorant’s play is just insane, and apparently that’s his metagame… But it also contradicts itself.
But then…
Bolded parts for emphasis. Let’s break this down: Leadership shouldn’t be in the hands of Nova the trustbreaker. It should go to a council on which one is himself (the guy who gets us all to post analysis 2 minutes before the end but trolls town with a jokepost himself – also a breach of trust) and one is someone whom he thinks is scummy. We have here a man full of contradictions.
Lorant’s case on Pure is bad, by the way:
- It is usually true that games with ##No Lynch mention the option in the rules, and I don’t think Pure can be faulted for thinking that no mention in the rules = option is not there, even if that was not clear to others. He was right, by the way.
- The nightposting thing I’m not sure of. We didn’t really discuss the advantages and disadvantages of keeping the night mostly silent; we just did it when Lorant suggested it (Pure included, he did hold back a lot of info), and it might have been a bad move after all. In my other games we just posted at night with no fear and there sure was more information going around. This actually might be a part of why some people lurked – didn’t want to post because there was a town agreement not to, but couldn’t be there at dawn so didn’t post much or at all.
- The rest is his gut feeling again, and fear. He’s not making a case saying “this is the most likely scenario”, he’s making a case saying “this is the worst case I can think of.” This is not how people who want to catch scum think.
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Remains the third L – the Lurker. That would be either Solohan50, Macheji, Therapist or TheRavensName. Hard to tell which, though. I’ll consider Daymor’s case for tonight:
For Daymor, on Macheji: Interesting case. The first 2 posts you point out do seem scummy/bad, 3rd post sounded to me more like “I don’t know how to use my time efficiently” and is mostly newbish.
On the long post: I did note he had a ++ on therapist which seemed weird to me – therapist is a major lurker right now and there’s no particular reason to see him as townie. I also noted he gave a ++ to crossfire and said he didn’t know of the death at the time of writing – that’s dubious, since he sure knew about the death when he wrote “I didn’t know about the death” – so why give us an outdated read instead of a current read on why he was killed? That’s not helpful.
On your “alarm bells”, I liked the first, not the second. Here’s my interpretation of that one:
It reads better as “imagine an innocent, would he act like this?”, with the answer likely being “no” in Macheji’s mind. Note that as the guy who dismissed a case with "LOL" last game, I don't agree with macheji's opinion here.
My scumreads right now are the 3 Ls: Lazer, Lorant, and a Lurker.
See Pure’s case and my own comments on Lazer, this case need not be remade. This is the scum I’m most sure of, and so...
##Vote: Lazermonkey
I’ll concentrate on sniffing out the remaining 2 scum. Here’s a case for you:
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Lorant’s play is just insane, and apparently that’s his metagame… But it also contradicts itself.
But then…
Bolded parts for emphasis. Let’s break this down: Leadership shouldn’t be in the hands of Nova the trustbreaker. It should go to a council on which one is himself (the guy who gets us all to post analysis 2 minutes before the end but trolls town with a jokepost himself – also a breach of trust) and one is someone whom he thinks is scummy. We have here a man full of contradictions.
Lorant’s case on Pure is bad, by the way:
- It is usually true that games with ##No Lynch mention the option in the rules, and I don’t think Pure can be faulted for thinking that no mention in the rules = option is not there, even if that was not clear to others. He was right, by the way.
- The nightposting thing I’m not sure of. We didn’t really discuss the advantages and disadvantages of keeping the night mostly silent; we just did it when Lorant suggested it (Pure included, he did hold back a lot of info), and it might have been a bad move after all. In my other games we just posted at night with no fear and there sure was more information going around. This actually might be a part of why some people lurked – didn’t want to post because there was a town agreement not to, but couldn’t be there at dawn so didn’t post much or at all.
- The rest is his gut feeling again, and fear. He’s not making a case saying “this is the most likely scenario”, he’s making a case saying “this is the worst case I can think of.” This is not how people who want to catch scum think.
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Remains the third L – the Lurker. That would be either Solohan50, Macheji, Therapist or TheRavensName. Hard to tell which, though. I’ll consider Daymor’s case for tonight:
For Daymor, on Macheji: Interesting case. The first 2 posts you point out do seem scummy/bad, 3rd post sounded to me more like “I don’t know how to use my time efficiently” and is mostly newbish.
On the long post: I did note he had a ++ on therapist which seemed weird to me – therapist is a major lurker right now and there’s no particular reason to see him as townie. I also noted he gave a ++ to crossfire and said he didn’t know of the death at the time of writing – that’s dubious, since he sure knew about the death when he wrote “I didn’t know about the death” – so why give us an outdated read instead of a current read on why he was killed? That’s not helpful.
On your “alarm bells”, I liked the first, not the second. Here’s my interpretation of that one:
It reads better as “imagine an innocent, would he act like this?”, with the answer likely being “no” in Macheji’s mind. Note that as the guy who dismissed a case with "LOL" last game, I don't agree with macheji's opinion here.
Lazer, Lorant, and a Lurker.
more like Easy, protect ally, and Easy.
He doesnt add anything to lazer as Pure said it all, apparently.
The only thing i consider original analysis in his filter is this part on Lorant. Although it is based on him having insane and stupid ideas (which are prevalent in most of FF's games) , and more growling at Lorant for not backing up his case on BlueyD's master, Pure, who coincedentally hasnt been mentioned or given a good read on by BlueyD the entire game.
And the last bit, Lurker. Nothing to say here. He thinks its a good idea to maybe lynch a lurker in a situation which could either make us lose in LYLO or get us into LYLO.
So, TL; DR:
BlueyDs post lack analysis that is original. In fact, in all of the minor analysis he's done, all of it seems to be spurred by something/someone else. He sets town up to lynch different people, and casts suspicion on many while soft defending those who will think highly of them for it. He has a brief contradiction early on, and huge meta difference from last game. And seems to want to follow pure who he hasnt posted anything on to the grave. Also pretty inactive. In newbie games, three types of scum are prevalent: Lurker, Semi-Lurking question giver/agreeer, and Controller. BlueyD is the Semi Lurker.
so
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##Vote: BlueyD
And finally,
On April 19 2012 23:44 Solohan50 wrote:
I'm at work, so I have to be brief. I made a case for Lazer last night, and it appears that I'm not the only one who is suspicious of him. I notice both Pure and BlueyD have made good cases about him as well, which only bolsters my confidence. Because of this, I'm going to vote for Lazer.
##Vote: Lazermonkey
I'm at work, so I have to be brief. I made a case for Lazer last night, and it appears that I'm not the only one who is suspicious of him. I notice both Pure and BlueyD have made good cases about him as well, which only bolsters my confidence. Because of this, I'm going to vote for Lazer.
##Vote: Lazermonkey
First of all i was the first to note suspicions of lazer and back them up, seems like everyone forgot
Solohan, you are so close. So so close. you seem to have noticed it but thought about it wrong. Pure made a case, BlueyD said its great and didnt add to it, and voted for the easy townie. This bolsters your confidence? They're going for the easy townie.
