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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 19 2012 18:58 GMT
#481
Will be writing a long post as fast as I can. but first off:

@Pure - I don't know really what to say anymore. I feel like I've responded to all your questions, but you still say I have many more things to answer. Can you be a little more specific? I did say why I voteswitched, I did say why voted on Nova etc. The arguments you use against me now are basically the same as when you made your first case against me. I answer the post and you post the same thing again.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 19 2012 19:41 GMT
#482
The case against Solohan50

I don't know what to say about Solohan50 atm. I read through his filter from last game(where he played mafia) and it seemed to be alot like this one. A short summary would be: Lurking haaard, being very defensive and is never the first one to accuse a person. Half of his posts are excuses for not being there/not posting enough/posting fluff. The other half is posting and kicking on people that are already lying.

So let's compare to this game. His first posts are not very telling at all. He is talking about no lynches etc. and isn't adding anything at all. His first major accusation is of Nova. But this is way after Pure first case on Nova and at the point of voting he is the third person to put his on Nova and doesn't really contribute much to the case. He has an easy time to blend in the case against Nova.

Then he is posting a bit about people he is suspicious about, but Nova isn't on this list, why? Instead he plays the safe cards and is basically saying that he thinks the lurkers should post more. He then has a defensive post about why he isn't able to post: because he lives in the US. still havn't really contributed.

He is then starts to accuses me, but at that point there have already been 2(or more?) major cases against me. His arguments on why I am scum were the same as Pure/Nova/whatevs. He says that my case on Macheji is weak but he is yet to post one good of his own. Anyway, after his case against me he DOESN'T vote for me. In fact he doesn't even claim that I actually am scum. Only that my play have been suspicious. It's first a whole day later that he actually decides to put the vote up against me. This is after the true shitstorm have hit me in the face, and Solohan can easily blend in with everyone accusing me of being scum.

All this looks very similar to last game where he in fact was a mafia. Basically lurking and playing really really safe which doesn't look like a townie to me.

##Vote: Solohan50
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
April 19 2012 20:05 GMT
#483
If my case gets no votes, i'll be going back to solohan, as he is likely to be a lurking mafia. until then, im sticking with blueyd.
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
Lorant
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Hungary112 Posts
April 19 2012 20:10 GMT
#484
1 Vote(s) on Macheji from Daymor
1 Vote(s) on Nova_Terra from Macheji
1 Vote(s) on BlueyD from Nova_Terra
1 Vote(s) on Solohan50 from Lazermonkey
3 Vote(s) on Lazermonkey from BlueyD, Pure-SC2, Solohan50

Have yet to fire their votepistol: TheRavensName, Lorant, Therapist
"Framer framing a GF would return him as mafia" - this is pretty funny.
Lorant
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Hungary112 Posts
April 19 2012 20:24 GMT
#485
Someone please translate the case on Lazermonkey for me from case analysis to scum agenda analysis. You've been mentioning a lot of
partnership or leader-follower instead of WIFOMing. I found out Nova had his own opinions and Lazer was the parasite here. This means Nova is not to be faulted for the connection between those 2, Lazer is.
. But what exactly does that achieve for scum?
I can't imagine Lazer going like hellooo scumteam .. I'm going to get connected to Nova so I can be his buddy .. and then when people point this out I'm going to say he's actually scummy HHAAHA!!! what a devilish ploy.
"Framer framing a GF would return him as mafia" - this is pretty funny.
Lorant
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Hungary112 Posts
April 19 2012 20:38 GMT
#486
Look, if there was any indication that mafia is dumb I wouldn't hesitate to vote for Lazer .. as he's got the dumbest behavior out there. But shooting Crossfire was genius so there's at least one guy who is not a total dumbass and he could all by himself prevent his fellow mafia to do stupid shit like Lazer has done, by telling them to be consistent. If SC2 doesn't switch to his secondary target or someone else.. even me, then I am 95% convinced that he is scum. This makes no sense.
"Framer framing a GF would return him as mafia" - this is pretty funny.
Lorant
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Hungary112 Posts
April 19 2012 20:40 GMT
#487
EBWOP: I'd be convinced that SC2 is scum even if Lazer flips red.
"Framer framing a GF would return him as mafia" - this is pretty funny.
Lorant
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Hungary112 Posts
April 19 2012 20:46 GMT
#488
Holy shit did I just figure out what's going on here? BlueyD and/or Pure-SC2 and/or Solohan50 riding the bus on his mate to victory?
"Framer framing a GF would return him as mafia" - this is pretty funny.
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
April 19 2012 21:00 GMT
#489
actually, i cant tell what has happened here. 3 of my top 4 suspicions voted for lazer. I kinda doubt they mafia would be stupid enough to all vote together one after the other...
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 19 2012 21:07 GMT
#490
Votecount coming shortly
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 19 2012 21:09 GMT
#491
It looks like we both agree (and Nova as well) that Lazer is an idiot, and his behaviour was scum like (you didnt explicitly state this Lorant, but I get the impression you agreed). That is what I'm basing my scum read on, and my vote. It's pretty simple really.

You don't have to agree with my case on him, but I'm basing it on what I can establish from everything I've read so far. It's a solid, tangible lead based on his behaviour.

You seem to imply that because he was dumb enough to act so scum like, that he couldn't possibly be scum. This is the same opinion voiced by Nova. Of course you can have stupid scum, and I believe that's what we have here.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
April 19 2012 21:12 GMT
#492
doubt it.
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 19 2012 21:17 GMT
#493
Going to bed now, hope that I survive the night. Don't think so tho :S. Pure seems to act strange at this point, doesn't answer my post even tho he is accusing me etc. Will keep my vote on Solohan tho. Hope to see you tomorrow ^^
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 19 2012 21:24 GMT
#494
Votecount

Lazermonkey - (3) BlueyD, Pure-SC2, Solohan50
BlueyD - (1) Nova_Terra,
Pure-SC2- (1) Lorant
Macheji- (1) Daymor
Nova_Terra - (1) Macheji
Solohan50 - (1) Lazermonkey

Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Lorant
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Hungary112 Posts
April 19 2012 21:26 GMT
#495
Pure, tell me why you think Lazer is scummy from a scum agenda POV. Be creative and for the love of God just find something.
"Framer framing a GF would return him as mafia" - this is pretty funny.
Lorant
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Hungary112 Posts
April 19 2012 21:26 GMT
#496
I unvoted Pure. The above count is faulty. Take mine
"Framer framing a GF would return him as mafia" - this is pretty funny.
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 19 2012 21:27 GMT
#497
On April 20 2012 06:17 Lazermonkey wrote:
Going to bed now, hope that I survive the night. Don't think so tho :S. Pure seems to act strange at this point, doesn't answer my post even tho he is accusing me etc. Will keep my vote on Solohan tho. Hope to see you tomorrow ^^


Sorry, but there isn't much to say.

You can't change the actions that led me to vote for you, and claiming inexperience as a reason just doesn't cut it for me. We're all inexperienced, it's why this is a newbie game.

You've had the most suspicious behaviour to date, and at this stage with the information available, I made my vote based on that.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Lorant
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Hungary112 Posts
April 19 2012 21:37 GMT
#498
Therapist and Raven .. you will be modkilled if you fail to vote in 25 minutes. I'm going to vote in the last second so don't even bother waiting for me.
"Framer framing a GF would return him as mafia" - this is pretty funny.
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
April 19 2012 21:38 GMT
#499
On April 20 2012 06:26 Lorant wrote:
Pure, tell me why you think Lazer is scummy from a scum agenda POV. Be creative and for the love of God just find something.


It's not about the overall scum agenda, so I don't think you can find what you are looking for from me.

He made a mistake on day 1 with his switch on Nova, he then initiated an unsubstantiated lynch vote onto oneplus, dissapeared, and then returned with weak cases on first Mechiji and then Solohan. The case notes and my reasoning are there to see.

Am I 100% certain that he is mafia? No. But he is my strongest mafia read so far and I haven't identified with any other cases at this time. For what it's worth, Nova is still high on my list but see no point pushing that yet.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
April 19 2012 21:46 GMT
#500
What, i thought deadline was in an hour and 14 minutes...
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
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