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Macheji
Romania103 Posts
Considering the numerous posts and the fact i acc am starting to get mad with his responses. I am voting for Nova_Terra In short ... for spamming, for not contributing with almost anything, for his reaction when Crossfire died, for sheeping and for all the other reasons in my +/- post and in general for creating chaos and making this thread ''foggy'' . Every 3-4 posts i see a N_T post that helps me in abs no way. ##Vote: Nova_Terra | ||
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Macheji
Romania103 Posts
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Lorant
Hungary112 Posts
Lorant - His play continues to baffle me, with his vote-change from Nova to Pure-SC2 being the latest thing I find it surprising that you find this baffling, considering that the case I posted had Pure-SC2s name on it in the title. @BlueyD Despite what you think of my case on Pure-SC2 I'd prefer scum agenda analysis over case analysis any day. You made a decent attempt of that saying I tried to give lurkers a town argument to lurk at night .. well maybe I did, that's because I think whatever you want to post at night you should keep to thyself until the last minute.. so everything a player wants to say at night he can do so in a last minute testament or even the day after and it's basically the same amount of info from that player. I didn't really have anything to post at that time as I was busy with my audio mixing and other stuff that seemed more interesting at that time. But I promise to make up for this at the end of night2, considering you don't lynch me for whatever reasons you have to lynch me. But if you do lynch me.. find it in your heart to forgive me for accusing your hero Pure-SC2, ok? | ||
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Lorant
Hungary112 Posts
He is by far the biggest asset we have, with consistent analysis and activity. Frankly, if Pure is mafia, I think we're completely fucked this game. | ||
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Pure-SC2
United Kingdom1440 Posts
My comments on your case against Macheji: - I think if we take him at his word regarding his laptop issues (which true to his word he's posting more now), then it looks pretty similar to his Bastard mafia filter. - Your second point focuses on his contribution in this game so far, and I don't get much from your analysis here. He has a scum read on Nova and sticks with it, and asks a question about what he should post. I agree with you that he shouldn't be asking what to contribute, and I stated that to him pretty soon after he posted, which he subsequently followed so no issue for me there. - His analysis post about his reads was a bit frustrating for me, because it was only based on the first 10 pages and the thread had moved on a lot from that point. The biggest notes I had from this is that he made some factual errors in his review, but felt to me like it came from rushing things and not looking into things properly, rather than scummy. - It looks like you misread the quotes under your Alarm Bells section - do you see that? @Macheji - My comments to you would be to take a bit more time over your posts, and only state something that you know is true (and can back it up with quotes). There are a few things you've stated so far that are flat out wrong and it really affects your credibility. I think you've raised some good points regarding Nova, specifically about the agreeable nature of his posts, something Nova himself considered scummy in Solohan's first post. Also, your mention of him taking credit for "saving" me was interesting to point out. His whole attitude about directing blues and his response to my reading of it didn't satisfy me, and you rightly highlighted his smug response once it was revealed Crossfire was killed. @Nova - You keep making these veiled threats about how defending yourself is preventing yourself from making longer analysis posts. Well, you keep doing things that raise peoples suspicions of you, so it's your own fault really. And if you genuinely are town, you should be focused on scumhunting anyway and posting your own analysis of your scum reads as a matter of priority! The fact that you are so focused on your own defence (while holding back on your own analysis) is suspicious in itself. I've got a lot more to say, but am going to take some time to process a few of the other posts. A quick note on the Therapist: His only real statements this game was to vote for Oneplus, to say he thinks Nova is bringing out a lot of information, and that he doesn't like the council idea. He hasn't posted a single read on anyone else, nor any analysis. | ||
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Pure-SC2
United Kingdom1440 Posts
There is so much confusion, trolling and general chaos in Lorants posts. I had a town leaning read on him prior to the FourFace disclosure, and from there it's just gone weird. What is the motivation behind his posts? I think he gets his enjoyment from throwing our curve balls and confusion. At the moment I feel we are all some mild amusement for Lorant and he doesn't seem to really care either way. Could be town, could be scum. I don't know. Definitely a person of suspicion for me, purely due to the chaos. Did anyone actually check out the play list he linked which meant "I didn't really have anything to post at that time as I was busy with my audio mixing and other stuff that seemed more interesting at that time." ? I did. It included 5 songs, the original diablo town theme song overlayed with another song (which together sounded terrible by the way), and then 4 other songs, one I recognised from my commodore 64 days. I feel like this is one big troll. | ||
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Daymor
New Zealand151 Posts
For clarification purposes yes I did vote for oneplus on the day one lynch, my reasons are included in that huge post in regards to lynch analysis, mainly in the @Nova_Terra section if you actually read it. But to summarise, I jumped on shortly before the deadline reviewed the thread and noticed Nova_Terra had made a significant number of posts and i did not have the time to review and analyse everything. In comparison oneplus did not make nearly as many posts, so I decided to take my vote off Nova_Terra as I value someone who is actively contributing posts as that helps analysis etc significantly more than someone who doesn't provide much. @Pure-SC2 - I agree the case is a bit of a stretch, to the extent that it encouraged Macheji to post I am happy. Macheji is not my strongest scum read, nor do I believe the case was strong enough to lead a lynch, so I do plan on ending the day with my vote on someone else. I think at least a couple hours before the lynch we should try to lock in a solid lynch target. Lazermonkey has been the person I have had the strongest scum read on for the last couple of days. I haven't really had the chance to look at his most recent post, but he is probably the candidate that I would most like to lynch. | ||
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Macheji
Romania103 Posts
Also, i really am keeping to what i said. I agree with Pure-SC2 that i said something that proved to be wrong , like i said N_T acted on a mafia game, but i already admited that in a previous post. My credibility may be affected, i do agree, but credibility only aplies if i'll ever make another post w/o a link/quote etc... But as far as you can see my later ones included the such, and are no longer things you have to trust me , but palpable things, that have no connection to me except the fact i've thrown them in discusion. As i said before, my lack of activity was really due to the laptop. When i'll get the bill, if i'm allowed, i'll even post a picture so you guys can see i really got it in repair. Also if i didn't use quotes/links in some posts that's because i had to do in 1 day what you guys done in 4. I felt i had to say the things i said about N_T as i read him as scum, in the start it really was a bit rushes but as you can observe with every post i get more and more organized ... the reason beeing i am getting a more clearer view. I would like to note that the fact my first post was only based on the first 10 pages may be an handicap, but that does not make it true. The backbone were N_T and Lazermonkey accusations, and my future posts will probabably still be about this as i feel there is something fishy with them, and i find the first 10 pages to reflect their future behavior perf... Nothing really changed... even more... in the next 22 i found even more arguments for a N_T lynch, and nothing to really change my mind. | ||
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Macheji
Romania103 Posts
I would like to note that the fact my first post was only based on the first 10 pages may be an handicap, but that does not make it true Correction (...) but that does not make it any less true.Should use preview more. | ||
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Lorant
Hungary112 Posts
On April 19 2012 19:45 Pure-SC2 wrote: Did anyone actually check out the play list he linked which meant "I didn't really have anything to post at that time as I was busy with my audio mixing and other stuff that seemed more interesting at that time." ? I did. It included 5 songs, the original diablo town theme song overlayed with another song (which together sounded terrible by the way), and then 4 other songs, one I recognised from my commodore 64 days. I feel like this is one big troll. It takes one to know one. You are trolling me at this point saying my mix which I posted is shit. I also never posted a playlist you derp, you yourself seemed to be motivated enough to go beyond the link to that one song and listen to every song on the profile. I think this is the second time someone says the link was to a playlist. Forcing this response out of me is entirely your fault and your response to my case and scum-agenda hypothesis is horribad. You keep sterilizing everyone's post until it says nothing really indicative of alignment. If you're such a great player and a big asset to us .. why don't we have a clue who to vote for. I don't say you should change the way you do observations, I'm just saying it's not that big of a help to actual scumhunting. We don't need people to make resumes of everyone with a subjective twist to them like saying my mix is shit and I'm a troll. Way to go .. you try to offend me but you still don't know if you should vote for me or not. I hate your species .. the internet-user species that thinks it's ok to insult ones ideas and investments. You also repeated a gazillion times that there's a lot of smoke and mirrors, chaos, enjoyment from throwing our curve balls and confusion around me yahdiyahdiya. Stop trying to be boring and frocing people to not want to read your posts anymore On April 19 2012 19:45 Pure-SC2 wrote: What is the motivation behind his posts? I think he gets his enjoyment from throwing our curve balls and confusion. At the moment I feel we are all some mild amusement for Lorant and he doesn't seem to really care either way. Way too easy. A town player seeking constructive analysis would never post such a thing simply to discredit a player who has obviously spent some time and effort reading and making intellectual investments into the game. Now go make a decent analysis about my motives or stfu if you can't respect a player who is trying to figure out the game by looking at scum agenda instead of making endless resumes and derrogatory, subjective bycomments to provoke emotional responses. I repreat .. Pure-SC2 made me post this and he also made you read this. It's time you start hating him too. | ||
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Macheji
Romania103 Posts
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Lorant
Hungary112 Posts
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Lorant
Hungary112 Posts
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Macheji
Romania103 Posts
 ), i have it on my stick that i listen to in the car... Dunno if your trolling or not but i had no intention to insult you ... I was just pointing that this topic is stupid and it only clouds the thread... You know... wtf blabla as in let's stop this ridiculous conversation . Ok, comic relief over, let's get back to Live Love Lynch. | ||
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Lorant
Hungary112 Posts
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Lorant
Hungary112 Posts
On April 18 2012 20:59 Macheji wrote: Oh man, 9 pages in and i have a full paper of notes. Most of them on Nova_Terra and Lazermonkey. I saw an obvious connection between the two of them. Share briefly with Pure-Sc2 , but tbh i find Pure-SC2 very ''town'' atm , not sure what that was about ( ganging on solohan w/o any evidence ) . I have to decide if i should make a list with everybody or just post my scum conclusion and post a case vs 1,2 people. What do you guys prefer ? On April 18 2012 22:43 Macheji wrote: Pure-SC2 ( +++/-- ) At a moment he accused Solahan for beeing a scum, fallowing N_T and LM, when there were no arguments or evidence. THe only thing i noticed about Solahan until that post was that he was a bot noobish at this game. Later on he goes after oneplus because he said N_T and LM are scummy without any arguments/evidence. ( -- ) But, to be honest Pure-SC2 has made alot of valuable posts since then. I found them clear, argumented, transparent and it seemed to me like he added alot to the game ( +++ ) . Still the mark of doubt remains. Would you say that it's possible that he gets all those pluses with the help of his scumbuddies (resume-ing everything like that does seem a little bit too much for one player)? Which leaves us with the two minuses plus what I've pointed out about the doc fishing. Would you be terribly appalled by a Pure lynch today? | ||
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Pure-SC2
United Kingdom1440 Posts
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Lorant
Hungary112 Posts
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Macheji
Romania103 Posts
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Lorant
Hungary112 Posts
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