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I'm not going to waste anymore room in the thread arguing with Toad on this point after this post.
Bandwagon has a negative connotation. Voting to lynch someone based on them using a word with a negative connotation is a terrible idea, which is what your reason for voting me boils down to. The idea that I would later hide behind the word "bandwagon" while drawing attention to it in the first place is just stupid. I'm trying to start the bandwagon here, and I'm drawing attention to that. How could I later claim that I was just joining the bandwagon?
I think Tunkeg is scum, and I'm voting him. I have based my decision on his responses in the thread, and I take full responsibility for my actions, regardless of his flip. Stop accusing me of hiding, I'm right here.
Also, thanks for taking a stand on the Tunkeg lynch. Makes my life easier.
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On April 10 2012 00:42 FourFace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2012 00:38 sputnik.theory wrote:
I honestly don't see any advantage to the town in lynching anyone unless I'm more then 50% sure that he's scum... like a boss
not sure what you're getting at. if I thought being annoying was enough to warrant a lynch at least I'd know who to vote for 
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I'm not accusing you to be hiding. I am accusing you to vote for someone you believe to be town,
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On April 10 2012 00:38 sputnik.theory wrote:
I honestly don't see any advantage to the town in lynching anyone unless I'm more then 50% sure that he's scum... To me it seems like the chance of lynching a green or blue is higher then getting a red. That said I take the comments made about my newbie-ness to heart and so I'll try to adapt to what is being asked of me.
My standing in this game was called into question origionally on grounds that I dismissed as illogical but I did myself no favors in reacting in a hostile way. I am hostile to stupidity, not to nessecary prodding and analysis that we'll all be going through. For the time being I have not decided my vote for day 1.
ST if you really want to help us understand you, you have to start making some accusations with some original argumentation to back them up. This game isn't about getting along in order not to make mistakes, it's about deciding who to hang and watch him twitch while his brain begins to shut down. It's brutal in it's essential nature so you can't be all sunshine and butterflies even it you truly are like that in RL.
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First of all,
##Unvote: Risen
His posting has undeniably gotten much better and I'm willing to give him a pass for today. Obviously I'm keeping an eye on him, but he's not the lynch today.
Now, I kinda want to talk lurkers for a minute. Not inactives (people who have made between 0 and 1 post all game), lurkers. For now, I'm looking at zelblade, Jackal and katina. These players have been on a few times to comment on stuff, enough for me to remember that they're in the game, but not enough for me to know where they stand on some of the issues that have become important to the town. It is my belief that at least one scum can be found in the three names.
And I don't know which (if any) of them isn't scum. So we gotta kill 'em all.
##Vote: Jackal
I'll start at the top. Come in here and either find scum or hang Jackal. You bitch about "JubJubs always lynching you D1" and "Scum wanting to get rid of you"...but simultaneously you want to lurk and not contribute? Pull the other one guy.
Kill the white guy!!!
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FourFace, thanks for toning down the Nefron in your last half-dozen posts. They were much easier to follow, and your willingness to accept advice and play with more accountability eases my suspicions on you.
Toad, I'm not sold on the use of the word bandwagon as a scumtell. It seems really conditional on the player in question, and that can be chancy at best.
In the interests of consolidating our votes, and as I have classes through much of the remainder of the Day, I say we lynch Tunkeg. He's clearly not interested in defending himself or posting reads, his thread presence has been limited to proposing an odd plan, attempting to argue its merits, and then insulting everyone. One way or another, we don't need players like this.
##Unvote: FourFace
##Vote: Tunkeg
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On April 10 2012 01:31 MidnightGladius wrote:
FourFace, thanks for toning down the Nefron in your last half-dozen posts. They were much easier to follow, and your willingness to accept advice and play with more accountability eases my suspicions on you.
Toad, I'm not sold on the use of the word bandwagon as a scumtell. It seems really conditional on the player in question, and that can be chancy at best.
In the interests of consolidating our votes, and as I have classes through much of the remainder of the Day, I say we lynch Tunkeg. He's clearly not interested in defending himself or posting reads, his thread presence has been limited to proposing an odd plan, attempting to argue its merits, and then insulting everyone. One way or another, we don't need players like this.
##Unvote: FourFace
##Vote: Tunkeg
LOL I have been defending myself the entire game, can't you see how one get tired of that. And from all the bad players as well, very tiresome...
I will post my reads before leaving, at least I can gloat about being right then...
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That isn't how I see things going down FourFace. To me people start at 20% chance of being scum and work their way up from that as incriminating information and analysis comes out of the thread. The conflicts occurring in this game so far don't strike me as significant enough to bump up the threat level of the people involved in them. All the candidates for lynching still seem to me to have a higher chance of being town. That said I recognize that a lynch is likely to take place on day1 and I'll be voting as to minimize the damage done to the town. A vote of no-lynch strikes me as useless unless their is enough support for that choice to carry the day. Therefore I'm deliberating the following question to decide my vote:
Should I vote to lynch a player who's no more or less suspicious because I find him distracting in the thread or should I vote for a person who has the highest chance of being mafia (though he's still more likely to flip town)?
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Oh, I know how tiring it can be to actually defend yourself by building cases and responding to questions, but all you have done recently is defend the value of your statistics, offer two names without conviction (BH and Ken), and grumble about being attacked. Let's see those reads.
It's only Day 1, you can't be that fatigued of this game already 
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Hey Risen, did you happen to read my concerns about your earlier play? Any comments?
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Ok - finally got a chance to read the thread after a busy Easter.
I'm voting Tunkeg.
His plan is not good. He spends most of his time defending it and ties up town discussion. He proposes that it was to generate discussion, yet has not produced a single stance or case based upon said discussions but has spent most of his time calling everyone stupid.
On April 09 2012 07:44 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 07:18 gonzaw wrote:
Tunkeg, Jackal, jhonny.
What do you guys think about Toad? And what do you think about Janaan? Do you think my previous case holds enough water or not to lynch Janaan? Toad isn't as spammy as last time I played with him AC. Does this make him scum, I don't know. I don't see what some players see in him. I see him as pretty much null. Like almost every other player in this game thus far. Your case on Janaan. Well I think it is forced, and somewhat premature. Reading that much from one post. I put it in the same category as BH's posts. Are you wrong for doing it? Who am I to judge. Maybe your pressure will create results from Janaan, maybe not. Still I like your case on Janaan better then BH's pressure on ST. He just kept pounding on him, not giving him a chance to explain himself.
After "defending" his random lynch suggestion, he drops this and peaces out. The town then proceeds to talk about Janaan and Tunkeg is content with lurking. He doesn't comment on Janaan once after this. Also note he doesn't actually talk about Janaan but gonzaw's case on Janaan. What is his actual stance on Janaan?
##Vote: Tunkeg
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Some stuff caught my eye:
On April 10 2012 01:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
First of all,
##Unvote: Risen
His posting has undeniably gotten much better and I'm willing to give him a pass for today. Obviously I'm keeping an eye on him, but he's not the lynch today.
Now, I kinda want to talk lurkers for a minute. Not inactives (people who have made between 0 and 1 post all game), lurkers. For now, I'm looking at zelblade, Jackal and katina. These players have been on a few times to comment on stuff, enough for me to remember that they're in the game, but not enough for me to know where they stand on some of the issues that have become important to the town. It is my belief that at least one scum can be found in the three names.
And I don't know which (if any) of them isn't scum. So we gotta kill 'em all.
##Vote: Jackal
I'll start at the top. Come in here and either find scum or hang Jackal. You bitch about "JubJubs always lynching you D1" and "Scum wanting to get rid of you"...but simultaneously you want to lurk and not contribute? Pull the other one guy.
Kill the white guy!!!
You previously held the stance that vigging lurkers would be more beneficial. Are you saying that out of the current pool of lynch candidates, you find none to be scummier than the lurkers?
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On April 09 2012 07:51 Hassybaby wrote:
I do apologise for my absence all of this hour of need. This day has been a most dreadful series of affairs.
While reading through the posts made, I see a number of potential options have arisen since last I spoke. While I can see potential arguments in them, I have some feelings about how it has been going:
With Risen and ET. I think what's said is said. The passion in their discussion makes me feel that they will bow to the Queen, not end her glorious reign.
With wbg: Previous feelings with the young gentleman has made me realize that while it seems he has a disposition of an apathetic commoner, his heart remains loyal. Therefore, I would like to look in other directions for our anti-monarchist guests.
With FourFace: I do not believe we have met before. Good evening Sir. Your attempts at discussion have been most definitely uncommon, and quite disruptive. As of yet, I am not sure. But young gonzaw is a man of integrity, so I will believe him for now and treat you as an interesting painting.
The potential herrings on our party, in my opinion, are between Kenpachi and Janaan. I have seen Kenpachi on numerous occasions. A man of remote talent, he spends most of his time gallivanting with the young girls, and generally causing a ruckus. But today, he seems quiet, even a bit reserved.
Janaan's first step into this party reminded me of my own baby steps into the larger social circles. My concern though is that it was never followed up. He seems to have disappeared to a corner of the room, indulging in other pleasantries, as opposed to assisting in our attempts to prevent the plots afoot
As always, I prefer to hear the responses before declaring my position, but I do believe that Janaan should be our first target over Kenpachi.
You give your reads on everything that is going on in the thread BUT you don't say anything about Tunkeg. Why?
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On April 09 2012 21:40 Mementoss wrote:+ Show Spoiler +VoteCount as of Now is:
Toad: 1
ST: 1
ET: 1
Johnnywup: 2
Risen: 1
Janaan: 2
Tunkeg: 2
4F: 3
. Since the guy with the most votes above only has 3 votes we can easily get majority on anyone if we are active. (Seriously we need to decide as a town who is the best lynch and get the votes going) Too many people are just sliding under the radar. Im going to talk about a few new people for now that have given me scummy vibes: MichaelThe:+ Show Spoiler +He has said nothing all game. His basis for not scum hunting is that scum hunting is useless day one, why is he trying to down the activity and discredit day 1 posts just because they are happening on day 1? He tunnels 4Face the whole day without really giving a reason too. (Everyone knows FourFace is annoying, move on) Not only has he not said anything in his posts, he has been taking what seems to be the easy way out. As well as avoiding pressure, he repeats the same old sentences reworded many times, it seems like hes just trying to keep himself off that "lurker" list. He also critizes and votes 4Face for having unclear posts, riddled with sarcasm while his do just the same. Lets look at the filter: + Show Spoiler +On April 09 2012 03:06 michaelthe wrote:
Scummiest of all so far: GMarshal. What type of goobag Eastern Orthodox bullcrap is this, starting a game on the REAL Easter date!
For serious though, this may make killing lurkers on day1 retarded. It is an actual holiday....
2cents on the bullcrap so far:
Risen/ET: Agree with the sentiment of many that this was just two monkeys needlessly flinging poo.
Tunkeg's list: By your list I am a top 9 player with 1 win as scum in a noob game. Clearly this list is 100% accurate, I'm pretty good at this game. As one of the stronger players, I feel a need on this Easter holiday to help crap players like jackal. Jakal: I will act as your guide this game, all you need to do is embrace me as your mentor, guide, guru, and sensei.
FourFace:
1. You posted you wanted to try a kidney/bladder strategy this game before the game even started.
2. You claimed town and a desire to be less active, but said you would continue to test your strategy.
3. You added to the strategy by creating an alter-ego, which serves simply to confuse the f*** outa the town.
Good news!!! I have early results!
Your strategy is crap.
##vote FourFace I will help you out by bolding repeats and italsizing sarcasm/inconciseness. Mention number one of Tunkegs list and how its bad. Does not mention killing FourFace for being scum, only because he is bad. Never once states he actually thinks he is scum yet leaves a vote on? + Show Spoiler +On April 09 2012 03:25 michaelthe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 03:22 Zephirdd wrote:
michaelthe, do you honestly believe that is a good reason for a vote? Do you think his strategy, which 4F said that was going to be employed pre-game, and which he has tweaked in order to be clearer(ie. we know when he is being sarcastic and when he is being serious) is a scum trait, or are you voting on it solely because you don't like that strategy/style? In my opinion, your vote is a scum vote. yes. Avoiding pressure, inconciseness, not reading, or possible scum slip. You pick. This is the only time he is pressured, and answers with one word. Not only that but it says your vote is a scum vote. He only answers Yes. Yes it is a scum vote, oh michael your making this too easy. + Show Spoiler +On April 09 2012 03:28 michaelthe wrote:
and ebwop:
Two Options:
1. He is scum. I havent seen any great reads so far, so I'd say chances of this are 6/30, 20%.
2. He is town testing a stupid strategy. Even if scum or town, chances of it being a stupid strategy: 100%
so we have 120% chance that this is a good lynch. This whole post is sarcastic. And goes on the same reasoning why everyone is on Tunkegs ass. Using "statistics" to prove a point. Not only that it's just in a sarcastic matter that doesn't help what he is trying to say at all. Still doesn't mention that he thinks he is scum, only thinks he has a good chance of being scum as any (6/30). + Show Spoiler +On April 09 2012 07:59 michaelthe wrote:
/\ /\ lawl, ninja'd the same minute by a post asking you to contribute.
Tunkeg- your list really is crap. It's not actual hard analysis, you subjectively add values as to what to value. I tried to point that out when I jokingly noted I was in the top 9 with only 1 game as a win as scum in a noob game. You SUBJECTIVELY decided to not take a lot of things into account, how to score certain things, etc.
Perhaps more importantly, if the goal is to scum hunt on day 1, your list will never actually indicate alignment, as someone on this page pointed out.
lynch target:
I honestly think that most day 1 tells are crap- maybe I should check some of the previous games similar to this and see if that holds true or not.
Are people saying they just bracket out fourface since he intentionally posts confusingly? Is this par for the course? Why wouldnt we day 1 lynch him, unless we can reasonably expect to hit a scum on day 1, which I doubt. Continues to discredit any day 1 scum hunting and continues to tunnel FourFace/Tunkeg. The easy lynches. Repeats his thoughts about Tunkegs list except in a non sarcastic matter. Posting for the sake of posting, not for helping. Just to say I am not a lurker guys. + Show Spoiler +On April 09 2012 12:20 michaelthe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 11:56 gonzaw wrote:
Again, if someone didn't comment on Janaan by now, please do. I want your opinion on Janaan and that post of his, and I want you to know if you'd want to kill him or not.
Your break down of Janaan's post pretty much consisted of the fact that it didnt have hard content, had too much fluff, and his suspicion of Sl0osh was indirect and weak. And then you said he defended himself... as he would... regardless... I think most day 1 analysis posts are a bit forced to try and stimulate discussion. That's fine, but I don't think that you have sufficient evidence based on his 2 posts to convince me he is scum. I tried to look back at the past few 30player games to see the results of day1 lynch. Of the few I looked at, the majority were vanilla townies, followed by special's (1 miller and 1 DT i think), and only like 1 scum. It seems to me like the town sucks at scumhunting off day 1 content. For that reason, I'm leaving my vote on 4face. I'd rather kill something annoying than someone who is not annoying and probable town anyways. Repeats how day 1 scum-hunting is impossible. Discredits a case on Janaan in two lines without making his own scum hunting case. Leaves his vote on FourFace and still never mentions him thinking hes scum. He actually mentions he thinks hes probably town, and is okay with killing him because hes annoying. You know whats more annoying michael? Repeating yourself and not giving thought out opinions on anything, discrediting every move the town makes, and sticking to the easy lynches. You are scum through and through. : + Show Spoiler +Targets Kenpachi but is actually the player most similar to him. His filler is filled with one liners, and though most of it states a quick opinion on a topic he never seems to give his own opinion on players or actively scum hunt. Just seems like a commenter of activities trying to get by. Check out his filter here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=325046&user=230739Votes for JohnnyWup only for the reasoning of bandwagoning on ET (pretty good reason though) Would like to hear more from him/have him make his own opinions on players rather than just comment on everything in one sentence. Only has the opening post. If you check out his filter from SNMM IX he was very very active day 1, and basically was a leader in trying to scum hunt. This game hes just lurking in the shadows. Maybe hes busy sure, but Im not going to let him slide by un-noticed and just drop a vote today and leave. Want to hear from him. SNMM IX: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=322222There are still a couple inactives, trout and lyter. But they will get dealt with. Also a vast amount of lurkers, other than the two I mentioned. My thoughts on the current most popular votes: 1. Tunkeg: I already posted my thoughts on him but will re-iterate right quick. His list was scummy, his actions towards BH were scummy. Basically agree completely with ET's discussion on him.2. Janaan: I think a case basing around one opening post is not the best at the moment. I do think the opening post was semi-scummy, espeically the cop out of "I am a newb dont mind me" play. Gonzaw is tunnelling him way too hard imo and it is getting distracting to looking for other people to analyze. I would agree that his meta is completely different then his other town games, and seems less concerned about the towns well being in his tone. 3.Sputnik theory: Honestly just think they are both noobing it up. But not a reason to dismiss scummyness though. Has shown he is not able to defend himself and replies to pressure with questions and agressiveness. For now based on my case above I'm throwing down my vote on MichaelThe.##Vote: MichaelThe
You aren't convinced that the candidates in the list you posted are that scummy, you agree that Tunkeg is scummy, you say that as town we should consolidate votes.
Then you vote for MichaelThe.
People like this are examples of resistance to Tunkeg lynch. It isn't a direct defense. But what the heck.
I'd lynch this guy tomorrow.
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About Jackal:
On April 09 2012 22:04 Jackal58 wrote:
Gonzaw hasn't called me scummy yet. That bugs me. Gonzaw always calls me scummy.
Because I don't think you are scummy.
In one of your first posts, you posted your reads on Risen/ET, then posted reasoning on why you thought Tunkeg was scum, etc.
Honestly that's the most effort I've ever seen you put in a game where we played together.
Of course you are Jackal so you are always scummy bla bla bla.
About VE:
VE, Wtf? We need 16 votes in like 6 hours or so to consolidate a lynch, and you decide to disconnect yourself from all current discussion and decide to "kill the lurkers"? Lurkers that don't even had a single vote on them?
Are you kidding me? Is this what you think an "atmosphere police" would do?
Really, I would like to kill you as well.
About Toad:
On April 09 2012 22:18 Toadesstern wrote:
I actually thought his accusation is something that makes him stupid but probably townish.
The guy never played a game with me, keeps tunneling me although everyone he asks keeps telling him what he says about me has nothing to do with my alignment because I'm like that as both mafia and town. I don't think a mafia would be that tunnelish especially given that noone thinks his case is any good. So I've got the feeling he honestly believes in what he says because he would have droped that otherwhise, which is sad for me because I'll have to deal with that which could end up shitting up the thread if I get mad (I'm controlling myself pretty good imo^^) but I don't really see him keeping up like that as mafia unless someone told him to.
Well thanks for discrediting me yet say I'm town. I did that exact thing with VE on SoaF when I was scum.
Yes, I found you suspicious because you had an odd behaviour, and after rereading your previous games (where you were town) I saw your behaviour there is completely different than the one here.
I find it more suspicious that you decide to lunge against ghost because of a "scumslip", yet you never comment on anything else that's going on, just like VE.
You don't comment on Tunkeg or what you think of him (you just mention you don't want him lynched after you were asked like 10 times for your thoughts on him), you don't post your thoughts on Janaan, nor on ST or other players that are likely lynch candidates.
You decide to vote a player that didn't have a single vote on him before; like 6 hours before the day ends.
Remember that part where I said it seems you don't care about this game? Yeah this is exactly why I think that.
You prod Hassy, tunnel ghost, but you don't seem to care about anything else.
I want you, Janaan and VE dead right now, but Janaan is the one closest to get lynched.
About Janaan:
Janaan made a very bad first post, but if he was town, he could have started to contribute more, post more reads, more thoughts, be more active and care about the game; and that could have made me change my mind about him.
He hasn't done anything yet. He made a half-assed case on Jitsu and then posted he didn't mind 4face that much. Nothing else, he didn't even mention what he thought about a Tunkeg lynch, or what he thought about ST, etc.
That makes me want to kill him even more.
On April 09 2012 15:06 EchelonTee wrote:TunkegMy previous thoughts on him: clickI find it funny that MG and gonzaw are saying "who do you find scummy who do you want to lynch" when I've already voted -_- . Not reading clearly? My previous thoughts on Tunkeg revolved around how his push on Jackal and his reaction towards BH are scummy.
Yeah I may have fucked that >_>
But well, water past the bridge now
About Tunkeg:
Your initial case doesn't make me think he's scum, it just means he's bad (when you talk about his "random lynch" and the reasons for it).
His outburst against BH isn't scummy; but like someone else pointed out he failed to mention 4face and instead kept on defending ST, and that is a little bit alarming.
He is playing odd, not like I would expect him to play as town.
I have a very small feeling he's just arrogant like Jackal said, and is playing very badly. Making a statistic spreadsheet and going on all day about it doesn't seem something a scum would do, since he knows he would get instantly FoSed if he did so.
Reminds me of that game where gumshoe made a poll about who is scum or not, it's just too stupid for scum to do that.
Then again, I don't like that he just spends all effort defending himself and NOTHING on commenting on the current events, or at least trying to post his thoughts or reads on more people, and reasoning behind them (okay Tunkeg, you think I'm scum, k koo).
If we have to avoid NL I'll vote him, but really I'd prefer a lynch on any of those players I said earlier.
Other stuff:
I don't like michaelthe's posting. I agree with what Mementos said, and I want him to step up his game and stop the bullshit.
There are players lurking and lurking bad, for instance:
Katina, Zephird, Artanis, sloosh (PRE-EDIT: Until now at least), Grack, Blazinghand, etc.
There are other players that are not contributing as much either, and/or are not voting.
People, if you have a vote on a player that has no other votes, THEN SWITCH YOUR VOTE TO TUNKEG/JANAAN/SOMEONE WITH VOTES ON HIM OR WE DON'T LYNCH TODAY
Where the fuck is wherebugsgo and Blazinghand?
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No, I either worded it bad or you read it bad. I wasn't completely convinced that the people I listed in the current vote pool were scum. Despite some scummy actions.
Then I presented my case on MichaelThe, which I found to be better than the current people up for lynch, so I voted for him. Afterwards I gave my opinions on some of the current people up for lynch, in order of scummiest to least scummy. With that being said I would rather get majority than have a no lynch, stating that I would be willing to switch to get majority, if people didn't agree with my case on Michael. This is what I meant, maybe it wasn't clear.
To lay it out more simply who I would like to see for lynch:
Michael > Tunkeg > Janaan > Sputnik
That being said Sloosh what are your thoughts on MichaelThe, and the case I laid out on him? Since not many people seem to have commented on it. And yet Michael still lays in the shadows.
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EBWOP: Above post is directed towards Sloosh
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@Sloosh, any thoughts on Toad/Janaan/VE? What about BH and wbg? Do you find someone else suspicious?
@Jitsu: So, I gave you the time to check Janaan, what do you think now? I ask you the same question I asked sloosh (above)
I don't like people disconnecting themselves from the current discussion, not commenting on anything and voting for a lurker that has no other votes on him which will most likely force NL; but I also don't like people coming in and ONLY commenting on Tunkeg (and voting for him mostly) while not commenting on anything else or pushing anybody else, or looking at other lynch candidates.
So please people step it up.
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At this point in the day, just going by the latest vote count, the only real chance we have to lynch today is Tunkeg, myself, and MAYBE Sputnik, so I'll be focusing my attention on Tunkeg for the time being.
He spent a lot of time defending his "random lynch" idea. It seems to me that if it was merely to generate discussion like he claims, it would have made more sense to drop it, after seeing that no one wanted to talk about random lynching. Instead, all he really did was inflate his post count, and stall actual discussion.
He also seems a bit wishy washy on his stance on me when Gonzaw asked about it.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 09 2012 07:44 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 07:18 gonzaw wrote:
Tunkeg, Jackal, jhonny.
What do you guys think about Toad? And what do you think about Janaan? Do you think my previous case holds enough water or not to lynch Janaan? Toad isn't as spammy as last time I played with him AC. Does this make him scum, I don't know. I don't see what some players see in him. I see him as pretty much null. Like almost every other player in this game thus far. Your case on Janaan. Well I think it is forced, and somewhat premature. Reading that much from one post. I put it in the same category as BH's posts. Are you wrong for doing it? Who am I to judge. Maybe your pressure will create results from Janaan, maybe not. Still I like your case on Janaan better then BH's pressure on ST. He just kept pounding on him, not giving him a chance to explain himself.
He says the case was forced, reading that much from a single post was bad, but then he says he still likes it better than BH. Which is it? If it was bad, then does it matter if it's better than another bad case? Make up your mind.
When asked by WBG who he would lynch, he shows that he hasn't really been scum hunting much at all by saying no one, and if he has been scum hunting, he doesn't believe his own reads. Then, just 4 hours later, he calls Gonzaw "obvious scum" and never gives a reason for it.
Now he seems to have just given up. He says he'll post his reads later, but regardless, later will be too late if he really is town.
I'll be back on long before the deadline, for now I'll be in class for a few hours, though.
##Vote: Tunkeg
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