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On March 14 2012 04:53 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 04:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 14 2012 04:20 gumshoe wrote:On March 14 2012 04:19 Curu wrote:Caller's play is calling attention to himself, actively trying to contribute and bring up new cases/information in the thread. No reason for Mafia to do that at all. On March 08 2012 15:30 Protactinium wrote: The player list has been updated, but is not finalized. These are the only people who are guaranteed in. If you are not on the list, this does not mean that you are not in. Feel free to shoot me a PM making a case as to why you should be in.
There is no longer a traitor. Traitor was brought back wasn't he? someone ask in green! I dont know how. (green)(/green) with brackets. I thought traitor was back as well. Right? Sentinal I thought we got the traitor back because I pmed syl before the start of the game and he mentioned it had been returned, why did you think the traitor was back?
I saw him in the OP, thought I missed a post about him returning.
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Man, it died fast in here. You guys are no fun.
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I'm here, how did you like the response you request from me, or didn't you read it? How do you feel about Palmar and DoctorHelvetica since you are in PM communication with both of them?
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VE, Palmar says you two talked for a while in PMs. What did you end up talking about?
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Jury's in deliberation. The posts I quoted I failed to read in context, and I had thought that the post where you jumped Jackal's shit (over something pretty petty mind you, considering) and called Caller not scummy was before he had rescinded his DocH case (although, he hasn't really after all, has he...)
Your response prompted me to go read them in context and found the mistake in my reasoning. But the way you've pushed Jackal and the way you've been insisting that you, Curu and Caller all have to be town based on the timing of the cases (which, upon further inspection are actually not really all that similar - I hope you realize that) still makes me queasy. If Jackal is town, I'm all about him shooting you in the face just to be done with the whole mess - but I'd be lying said that I don't have any doubts where before there was no question to me.
I think Palmar is town. DocH is correct in saying that our reads align, but I'm still fairly clueless as to his alignment which scares me at this point. Most of my conversation with DocH has been ultimately pretty unhelpful in determining his alignment. All I have to go by are his actions, which align with my own actions (which also scares me.)
What do you think about Jitsu prplhz? Jitsu, unless I'm mistaken, is DocH's lynch of choice. I'm in PM contact with Jitsu and I have to say - I'm really leaning town on Jitsu.
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On March 14 2012 07:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote: VE, Palmar says you two talked for a while in PMs. What did you end up talking about? Breadsticks as dildos. It's much more fun to make it up if they don't want to tell us.
I'll be gone for most of the evening. I have not shot anybody at this point in time. I may not shoot anybody at all tonight. But I wont be sober when I return home so ya that ideas probably gonna get a great big fucking override by drunk Jackal. That guys an asshole.
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On March 14 2012 07:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote: VE, Palmar says you two talked for a while in PMs. What did you end up talking about?
Mostly arguing about whether or not I should roleclaim to him. I asked him a few questions designed to help me determine his alignment, but those all flopped because he refused to read the thread at the time...something about being at work and hating effort.
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On March 14 2012 07:06 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 07:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote: VE, Palmar says you two talked for a while in PMs. What did you end up talking about? Mostly arguing about whether or not I should roleclaim to him. I asked him a few questions designed to help me determine his alignment, but those all flopped because he refused to read the thread at the time...something about being at work and hating effort. No effort as in scummy Palmar?
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On March 14 2012 07:07 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 07:06 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 14 2012 07:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote: VE, Palmar says you two talked for a while in PMs. What did you end up talking about? Mostly arguing about whether or not I should roleclaim to him. I asked him a few questions designed to help me determine his alignment, but those all flopped because he refused to read the thread at the time...something about being at work and hating effort. No effort as in scummy Palmar?
Nah, no effort as in can't be arsed cowboy Palmar.
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I think his case on me was bad.
Furthermore, the case was mainly "He is scumbuddy with Curu" but he never attacked Curu for anything, only me, and quite heavily. He's semi-tunneling me I feel while ignoring stuff I say.
Maybe the case was too bad to be proposed by any scum but he did just pick it up from Mr. Wiggles which seems kind of scummy. He has been reasonable active though. I'm unsure about him but I surely wouldn't miss him.
What did Palmar say in PMs that you felt made him town? I remember in Resistance 2 when I told you to start convincing yourself that Palmar was town, after like 2 weeks of play, you were still "Oh, I don't know about him, I was gone from the forums at some point and stuff!". I understand that your performance in Storm Mafia probably gave you a confidence boost but you still must have some reasons to think that he is town. There's certainly nothing in this thread that could convince you.
Why do you think that Jitsu is town?
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On March 14 2012 07:06 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 07:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote: VE, Palmar says you two talked for a while in PMs. What did you end up talking about? Mostly arguing about whether or not I should roleclaim to him. I asked him a few questions designed to help me determine his alignment, but those all flopped because he refused to read the thread at the time...something about being at work and hating effort. Ok, I was wondering if you actually talked about the game or not, and things like reads, because then your altercation in the thread would be pretty revealing. Hopefully Palmar confirms.
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Jackal58 you fucking shoot tonight if you're actually town.
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On March 14 2012 07:14 prplhz wrote: Jackal58 you fucking shoot tonight if you're actually town.
Confirmed scum?
He said a bunch of times he's gonna shoot you. This means you both die if you're town since you have no guaranteed means of protection. If you're scum you can block and hit jackal which means you don't die and he never gets to claim his hit implicating you. Nice slip bro.
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Jitsu is based on the discussions we've had in general - he's earnestly scumhunting and to be honest, your name hasn't come up...you might have convinced him
Palmar is Palmar. I've felt the sting of his manipulation before. It was a gut thing mostly, until he arrived in the thread. And yes, the way he pushed DocH for information cemented my read on him.
While Storm certainly helped, I've been told several times that I need to work on just having confidence in my reads - so that's what I'm doing this game. It doesn't help that Palmar's read of Caller and mine are at odds. -.-
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On March 14 2012 07:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 07:14 prplhz wrote: Jackal58 you fucking shoot tonight if you're actually town. Confirmed scum? He said a bunch of times he's gonna shoot you. This means you both die if you're town since you have no guaranteed means of protection. If you're scum you can block and hit jackal which means you don't die and he never gets to claim his hit implicating you. Nice slip bro. That's pretty stupid but I'm not going to tell you why.
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Why would a townie ask for a suicide vig to shoot after being threatened over and over
unless you don't give two shits about this game and want 2 town deaths tonight? that's anti-town no matter how you cut it.
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The best thing for Jackal to do is not shoot at all
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On March 14 2012 07:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote: The best thing for Jackal to do is not shoot at all I thought the best thing for Jackal58 to do was to kill a scum.
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Ideally but realistically Jackal should only ever use his power on a broadcasted DT check or really really late game
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On March 14 2012 07:28 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 07:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote: The best thing for Jackal to do is not shoot at all I thought the best thing for Jackal58 to do was to kill a scum. It is. If I shoot drunk Jackal will be pulling the trigger.
I'd rather not shoot but if you continue to insist........................
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