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Blazinghand
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On February 24 2012 05:49 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 05:45 Blazinghand wrote:On February 24 2012 05:41 wherebugsgo wrote: I can't actually see any reason for anyone of any alignment to ever say what you just said.
Anyway, need to know basis. I have no vested interest in answering any questions ATM.
He's trying to say that he expected a stronger attack from you, and the fact that you backed off surprised him-- WBG is not known for pulling his punches. I find it funny that you're talking for him. Are you his scumbuddy by chance? @syllo same thing I said to Dr. H.
I find it funny that you weren't able to understand him.
Are you illiterate by chance?
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On February 24 2012 06:02 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 05:49 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 24 2012 05:45 Blazinghand wrote:On February 24 2012 05:41 wherebugsgo wrote: I can't actually see any reason for anyone of any alignment to ever say what you just said.
Anyway, need to know basis. I have no vested interest in answering any questions ATM.
He's trying to say that he expected a stronger attack from you, and the fact that you backed off surprised him-- WBG is not known for pulling his punches. I find it funny that you're talking for him. Are you his scumbuddy by chance? @syllo same thing I said to Dr. H. I find it funny that you weren't able to understand him. Are you illiterate by chance?
Who says I couldn't understand him?
The two of you seem so bothered by all of this. It's really hilarious.
BH are you scared of me? Is that why you're relying on unsubstantiated assumptions to try and lower my credibility?
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Blazinghand
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On February 24 2012 06:05 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 06:02 Blazinghand wrote:On February 24 2012 05:49 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 24 2012 05:45 Blazinghand wrote:On February 24 2012 05:41 wherebugsgo wrote: I can't actually see any reason for anyone of any alignment to ever say what you just said.
Anyway, need to know basis. I have no vested interest in answering any questions ATM.
He's trying to say that he expected a stronger attack from you, and the fact that you backed off surprised him-- WBG is not known for pulling his punches. I find it funny that you're talking for him. Are you his scumbuddy by chance? @syllo same thing I said to Dr. H. I find it funny that you weren't able to understand him. Are you illiterate by chance? Who says I couldn't understand him? The two of you seem so bothered by all of this. It's really hilarious. BH are you scared of me? Is that why you're relying on unsubstantiated assumptions to try and lower my credibility?
Man you were like "what do you mean by this" and I'm like "uh its kinda obvious" I don't see the problem here
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On February 24 2012 06:01 wherebugsgo wrote: I wasn't wishy washy regarding redFF, I just changed my mind.
Why so many ants in your pants, Dr. H? It seems like you're boiling over but I've given you no reason to be so nervous.
Worried about the pressure? Certainly seems like it.
Going half the day saying 'Dude he can be this way regardless of his alignment', while true, constitutes being wishy-washy Bugs, whether you decided by lynch time to "change your mind" or not.
It doesn't seem like DocH is worried about pressure at all. It seems like you're trying to get him flustered.
WAT
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So no thoughts on RoL blazinghand?
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On February 24 2012 05:56 syllogism wrote: No, I won't be posting anything. I'll reconsider whether this game is worth putting more effort into tomorrow if I'm around. If you're gonna show with an attitude like that don't bother.
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Blazinghand
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On February 24 2012 06:11 syllogism wrote: So no thoughts on RoL blazinghand? I will read his post-delurk filter presently
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On February 24 2012 06:09 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 06:05 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 24 2012 06:02 Blazinghand wrote:On February 24 2012 05:49 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 24 2012 05:45 Blazinghand wrote:On February 24 2012 05:41 wherebugsgo wrote: I can't actually see any reason for anyone of any alignment to ever say what you just said.
Anyway, need to know basis. I have no vested interest in answering any questions ATM.
He's trying to say that he expected a stronger attack from you, and the fact that you backed off surprised him-- WBG is not known for pulling his punches. I find it funny that you're talking for him. Are you his scumbuddy by chance? @syllo same thing I said to Dr. H. I find it funny that you weren't able to understand him. Are you illiterate by chance? Who says I couldn't understand him? The two of you seem so bothered by all of this. It's really hilarious. BH are you scared of me? Is that why you're relying on unsubstantiated assumptions to try and lower my credibility? Man you were like "what do you mean by this" and I'm like "uh its kinda obvious" I don't see the problem here
Guess I was right, I'm not the illiterate one.
On February 24 2012 06:11 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 06:01 wherebugsgo wrote: I wasn't wishy washy regarding redFF, I just changed my mind.
Why so many ants in your pants, Dr. H? It seems like you're boiling over but I've given you no reason to be so nervous.
Worried about the pressure? Certainly seems like it. Going half the day saying 'Dude he can be this way regardless of his alignment', while true, constitutes being wishy-washy Bugs, whether you decided by lynch time to "change your mind" or not. It doesn't seem like DocH is worried about pressure at all. It seems like you're trying to get him flustered. WAT
Nope, go read the events of the day again.
In particular I couldn't stand the whole "if I get RBed then lynch me" thing because that was basically him just asking to get lynched. Sounded entirely like a bluff to me, and I am not scared at all in calling out bluffs.
also I was one of the earlier people to vote because I couldn't be around at lynch time...so I have no idea what you're talking about.
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I agree with what DocH has to say about Dirkzor, for obvious reasons.
Especially the part where he makes a huge post based on the perception that Chaoser is lying, and then doesn't even vote him. If he thought he was actually scum, I feel he would have voted for him. But to build a case on someone and then not even be willing to get him lynched, let alone feel pressure? Come on, bro.
That lack of flip is making me WIFOM everything. Literally. I think that the no-flip was triggered by a role. Obviously the no-flip application is only really beneficial to the mafia side, so I can't decide whether they did it to hide the fact that he actually wasn't a tracker blue. The other thing in my head is that the mafia is trying to hide an attempted early bus on him, and because of the failed vote switch to BC, they needed to throw suspicion off that person.
I can't think of any other motivations for the mafia to block the flip like that. There is always the possibility that it's a mechanic, but, as stated earlier, I don't think it's possible.
Risk.nuke, where ya at, brah. You still think I should be lynched? You said it mid-day through Day1, and BH tacked onto the attack with you, and since then, you just dipped off the radar.
At the time, you obviously thought that I was mafia, else you wouldn't push for my lynch, right? Along the way, where did you disregard you're gut feeling on me?
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Blazinghand
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No comments on me all game huh Jitsu what you got to hide
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On February 24 2012 06:32 Jitsu wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I agree with what DocH has to say about Dirkzor, for obvious reasons.
Especially the part where he makes a huge post based on the perception that Chaoser is lying, and then doesn't even vote him. If he thought he was actually scum, I feel he would have voted for him. But to build a case on someone and then not even be willing to get him lynched, let alone feel pressure? Come on, bro.
That lack of flip is making me WIFOM everything. Literally. I think that the no-flip was triggered by a role. Obviously the no-flip application is only really beneficial to the mafia side, so I can't decide whether they did it to hide the fact that he actually wasn't a tracker blue. The other thing in my head is that the mafia is trying to hide an attempted early bus on him, and because of the failed vote switch to BC, they needed to throw suspicion off that person. + Show Spoiler +
I can't think of any other motivations for the mafia to block the flip like that. There is always the possibility that it's a mechanic, but, as stated earlier, I don't think it's possible.
Risk.nuke, where ya at, brah. You still think I should be lynched? You said it mid-day through Day1, and BH tacked onto the attack with you, and since then, you just dipped off the radar.
At the time, you obviously thought that I was mafia, else you wouldn't push for my lynch, right? Along the way, where did you disregard you're gut feeling on me?
How should mafia know if he really is a blue tracker or not? Unless redFF is mafia himself mafia won't know his role and therefore the first statement is probably not a possibility or at least not the reason they did it. I really still think it's either a 3rd party power or something like a role who dies when lynched but flips a day later. I can't recall what that role was called right now. Yeah mafia somehow hiding the flips is possibly but pretty unlikely, why should they do that if it's a 1-shot power? So either a townie who flips the next day or a some weird 3rd party shit.
I doubt they bussed redFF.
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Posting from phone. day post is going to be delayed by aprox 2 hrs. My apologies.
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A third party power that hides flips makes no sense at all. What possible function would that serve?
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On February 24 2012 06:43 sandroba wrote: Posting from phone. day post is going to be delayed by aprox 2 hrs. My apologies.
Sandroba's being silly, I will post it on time
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On February 24 2012 06:44 syllogism wrote: A third party power that hides flips makes no sense at all. What possible function would that serve?
I have no idea. I really don't know what kind of thirdparty roles excist and all I know about them is what I know from irc-Mafia and that Batman and Catwoman might exist. Other than that I never saw a thirdparty role in a game.
I'd say it's something like that for me: It's probably the townie that dies when lynched but flips a day later. It's maybe some weird 3rd party shit I don't know. It's pretty unlikely that it's a mafia power but could be. Maybe it's nothing of thos 3 things :p
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Blazinghand
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On February 24 2012 06:53 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 06:44 syllogism wrote: A third party power that hides flips makes no sense at all. What possible function would that serve? I have no idea. I really don't know what kind of thirdparty roles excist and all I know about them is what I know from irc-Mafia and that Batman and Catwoman might exist. Other than that I never saw a thirdparty role in a game. I'd say it's something like that for me: It's probably the townie that dies when lynched but flips a day later. It's maybe some weird 3rd party shit I don't know. It's pretty unlikely that it's a mafia power but could be. Maybe it's nothing of thos 3 things :p
1) Assuming redFF was town-aligned, why would he claim tracker rather than that power or whatever? That doesn't make sense. 2) Unlikely 3) Hey now that makes sense, because hiding flips helps MAFIA
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On February 24 2012 06:42 Toadesstern wrote:
How should mafia know if he really is a blue tracker or not? Unless redFF is mafia himself mafia won't know his role and therefore the first statement is probably not a possibility or at least not the reason they did it. I really still think it's either a 3rd party power or something like a role who dies when lynched but flips a day later. I can't recall what that role was called right now. Yeah mafia somehow hiding the flips is possibly but pretty unlikely, why should they do that if it's a 1-shot power? So either a townie who flips the next day or a some weird 3rd party shit.
I doubt they bussed redFF.
You mis-interpreted what I was saying.
redFF claims blue role to try to get our votes off of him. redFF is actually mafia fake-claiming. We lynch redFF anyway. Mafia proceeds to shit themselves, and bury the results so that we are left to assume he was truthful in his claim.
I think that it's a feasible conclusion.
On February 24 2012 06:37 Blazinghand wrote: No comments on me all game huh Jitsu what you got to hide
What do you want me to comment on? The fact that you are playing like garbage?
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Blazinghand
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On February 24 2012 06:56 Jitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 06:37 Blazinghand wrote: No comments on me all game huh Jitsu what you got to hide What do you want me to comment on? The fact that you are playing like garbage?
Yeah... I mean typically if someone's playing poorly that's something you should call out. But apparently... not? In your opinion?
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HOw unlikely is it taht there is a third party when it is stated in the OP there is one. How about redFF claimed tracker, because he was a tracker, and mafia conceiled it so that we dont as few information as possible day 1. Conceiling the lynch if he was town makes as much sense from mafia point of vue as conceiling if he is scum. Their goal is only to confuse us.
Lets wait for the day post, and stop talking about red. If he doesnt flip at daybreak, there is nothing more to learn from him.
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Okay deadline soon and class as well (so even if I'm alive I won't be on till much later. Midterms )
My thoughts ATM:
If I die, 100% kill Dr. H. Last time when he was scum I pressured him (albeit harder and during the day, since I actually had time) and then ended up dying. Right now his actions are weird in that certain things he is saying make sense, but other things do not. I'm not very sure on his alignment and many of the things he said recently (particularly what he pointed out about RoL's stance on BC and his agreement with me about VE) make sense. If I'm alive I'll have to strongly reconsider my thoughts on him. Gut says scum, and I can't figure out why.
VE and RoL are both good lynches for today, IMO. I would also support killing prplhz, who has been completely inactive over the last 24 hours and said some incredibly strange things day 1. He seemed to sheep syllo just to sheep syllo, with no real opinions of his own. Sure, it's great to follow syllo's lead if he's town, but not everything syllo says is infallible (and yes, if I die please please please listen to syllogism. If he's scum he won't keep the charade up long since his scum confidence is low but at this point I doubt he actually is scum.)
VE is a good lynch basically because he said BC was null but then he repeatedly called him scum. His actions don't line up with his words and his scum list, as Dr. h said, looks very similar to the bs he was writing in Arkham City.
RoL is a good lynch because he voted redFF but said BC was scummy.
I hope this gets in on time
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