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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On February 21 2012 09:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 09:14 Blazinghand wrote: I really don't like that Navillus hasn't done anything useful and didn't commit to a team. Like, way to not suggest a team dude, are you trying to dodge scrutiny or what
I'm not a fan of the "assume Palmar is town because he isn't playing like dick" given that he fooled me all Resistance I-- Palmar is perfectly capable of playing a fine scum, at least in this setup. I'm going to wait and see what kind of team he suggests before committing to a vote. Suggesting a scum team which we can actively downvote is better than not suggesting a team at all.
Exactly and this is why I don't like Navillus-- no comittment, no suggested team, a total dodge.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Seems more like a case of inactivity/apathy than a dodge to me.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
That just means it was a GOOD dodge, not that it wasn't a dodge.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Like what do you expect a dodge to look like? you covering for your scumbuddy?
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On February 21 2012 09:20 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 21 2012 09:14 Blazinghand wrote: I really don't like that Navillus hasn't done anything useful and didn't commit to a team. Like, way to not suggest a team dude, are you trying to dodge scrutiny or what
I'm not a fan of the "assume Palmar is town because he isn't playing like dick" given that he fooled me all Resistance I-- Palmar is perfectly capable of playing a fine scum, at least in this setup. I'm going to wait and see what kind of team he suggests before committing to a vote. "Palmar not playing like a dick" doesn't really factor into it, at least not for me. But, like you, I'm reserving judgement until he officially suggests his team. It's easy to say "I'm thinking A, B and C for a team" and actually put forth X, Y and Z, ya know? Exactly. And that's why I don't like Navillus, who just dodged super hard. I will nay-vote any team with him on it. Regarding Palmar: I meant to say "playing poorly" rather than "playing in a mean-spirited fashion"
I tend to agree with you there Blaze - I mean, unless he just honestly didn't know the game had started or something, which obviously isn't even the case, it just seems like he's trying to avoid scrutiny. I also will nay-vote a Navillus team.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
lol what's the point of a dodge when he could just nominate himself instead?
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Ahh shoot this is from my phone because I haven't had access to a computer for a while and I thought the deadline was later than it was, honestly though my plan was me, Palmer, and dirkzor with an explanation that it was more with the intent of discussion than a really strong advocacy because I don't have strong enough reads for that. This will all seem dodgy but I wouldn't be telling you my dodgy sounding strat after missing it if I were scum. That would have been my strat because I am town and know that I'm not good enough to get a really strong town team by myself.
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On February 21 2012 09:31 Navillus wrote: Ahh shoot this is from my phone because I haven't had access to a computer for a while and I thought the deadline was later than it was, honestly though my plan was me, Palmer, and dirkzor with an explanation that it was more with the intent of discussion than a really strong advocacy because I don't have strong enough reads for that. This will all seem dodgy but I wouldn't be telling you my dodgy sounding strat after missing it if I were scum. That would have been my strat because I am town and know that I'm not good enough to get a really strong town team by myself.
While I appreciate the effort, unless you're actively engaged in the discussions other players put forth, I'm still nay-voting you. It's one thing to say "Yeah, I wasn't dodging" and then WIFOM as to why...it's entire another thing to actually mean it and discuss with the rest of us who should be going on the mission.
Just FYI. When you're ready to play, we'll talk about including you on missions.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On February 21 2012 09:31 Navillus wrote: Ahh shoot this is from my phone because I haven't had access to a computer for a while and I thought the deadline was later than it was, honestly though my plan was me, Palmer, and dirkzor with an explanation that it was more with the intent of discussion than a really strong advocacy because I don't have strong enough reads for that. This will all seem dodgy but I wouldn't be telling you my dodgy sounding strat after missing it if I were scum. That would have been my strat because I am town and know that I'm not good enough to get a really strong town team by myself.
Worthless post, worthless team suggestion since it's not real-- saying it now is meaningless since we can't vote it in. you get no credit whatsoever for this post.
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And now we wait - the Viking Cowboy is known to do things on his own time, and he NEVER posts while asleep.
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Rofl
Palmar/Dirkzor/Navillus.
GG scum
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It seems very unlikely to me that a scum-navillus would have let the time run out, because it just seems to be kinda bad. I mean, I'm obviously taking a leap of faith including him on the team, but it just seems so much more likely this is apathetic town play than scum play.
Dirkzor seemed pretty towny from his early responses in the thread.
I am obviously confirmed town.
I considered putting prplhz and kitaman on the team, they seem towny enough. I need to read VE's posts better. It seems very weird he'd have a town read on me when I have posted very little in the game. I mean, he has given a reasonable explanation for his read, but it's just... too fast for my liking.
chaoser/blazinghand seem a bit off to me, and I don't think I would include sentinel either from the way he's currently posting.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Sorry, can't deal with a Navillus team. He stopped by the thread a couple of times to ask questions and generally fail. The fact that he showed up after the deadline to offer a "team" and then immediately dipped up out is even more disconcerting, IMO. I really think you could have done better than Navillus. Much better.
I like Dirk. I'm not actually super pleased with you on the team either, especially if you think Navillus is somehow one of the three townest players in this game.
There are much better people you could have picked as man #3 for the team, like Kita or myself.
That being said, thank you for suggesting a team.
##Vote Palmar: Nay
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yeah obviously you can't, it's directly against your win condition.
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Lol palmar. I was actaully thinking the same about navillus. Also because he would be easy to "kill" for mafia to just attack him relentlessly due to the fact that he did not put up a team.
I like the Dirkzor/Navillus part. I'm not sure about you yet though.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On February 21 2012 18:56 Palmar wrote: yeah obviously you can't, it's directly against your win condition.
why can't you suggest a decent team
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Also, your logic is flawed, either you think I'm town and navillus is scum, or you think navillus is town and I'm scum, you can't really dislike us both because it makes no sense from scum perspective to pick two people on a team on day 1.
You have very weak reasons for believing navillus is scum.
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On February 21 2012 18:56 Dirkzor wrote: Lol palmar. I was actaully thinking the same about navillus. Also because he would be easy to "kill" for mafia to just attack him relentlessly due to the fact that he did not put up a team.
I like the Dirkzor/Navillus part. I'm not sure about you yet though.
Well I'm pretty confident in this. Just don't include me on any future teams if this fails.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
I think in your position I'd want to bring the two most town players with me, and Navillus is not one of the two most town players. you setting up a fall guy for when your team fails? Or are you just dumb
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On February 21 2012 18:59 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 18:56 Dirkzor wrote: Lol palmar. I was actaully thinking the same about navillus. Also because he would be easy to "kill" for mafia to just attack him relentlessly due to the fact that he did not put up a team.
I like the Dirkzor/Navillus part. I'm not sure about you yet though. Well I'm pretty confident in this. Just don't include me on any future teams if this fails.
That would be much easier if you had two very town players on your team rather than one very town player and one Navillus.
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