EPTResistance 2 - Tunnel Rats - Page 6
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On February 20 2012 00:49 prplhz wrote: Hi guys I'm just a regular townie, nothing to worry about here. As such, I should be on night1 team. I think Dirkzor should too based on what he's written in this thread so far. Dunno who I'd pick third but ... Unfortunately I'm last picker so I probably wont have a chance to propose a team today. That was all for now. kita y u no luv~ 4 me u buddying? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
Let's talk about a little thing called a pro-town atmosphere. You should all know what this is, and how it benefits town. I want to see it happen. Let's all get rid of the sarcasm and aggressive tones, and try working together to win the game. Can we all do that? Good. So, we agree on one thing at least: If a team made of A, B, and C successfully completes a mission, that means that A, B, and C are chosen again, even if Leader D has to exclude themselves. If there are any arguments against this, make them clear now. Navillus, before we start bickering and WIFOM'ing any more, please submit a team selection. | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On February 20 2012 10:53 kitaman27 wrote: I'm just pointing out that calling other people town after 2 and a half pages is just a way create a false sense of trust. Scum do it all the time in normal games, so why is it allowed in a game like this where buddying up to other players can be even more effective. I'm fine if someone thinks someone else is town based on a real case after something of substance has been actually said, but right now it just seems like a way to build up relationships. The reason we don't do it in normal games is because it helps pick good kills for the mafia overnight - as this is something we don't have to worry about in this game, I see no problem pointing out when you feel like someone is town. That being said, do you disagree with my assessment of Palmar or Blaze' initial posts/posting style Kitaman? Or were you just slipping in to try and throw some undue suspicion my way just because? <3 | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
That's not applicable until day3 at least. Lets take one day at a time. Also: 1 scum 2 townies chosen for team day1, no sabotage. night1 team + extra townie chosen for team day2, sabotaged, extra townie subject to suspicion night1 team + another extra townie chosen for team day3, sabotaged, extra townie subject to suspicion Why are you even talking about this shit now? You want to tell scum how we will treat future situations so that they can choose whatever benefits them the most? u meh | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On February 20 2012 10:57 chaos13 wrote: I'm going to assume you're town for the moment and give you some advice. Let's talk about a little thing called a pro-town atmosphere. You should all know what this is, and how it benefits town. I want to see it happen. Let's all get rid of the sarcasm and aggressive tones, and try working together to win the game. Can we all do that? Good. So, we agree on one thing at least: If a team made of A, B, and C successfully completes a mission, that means that A, B, and C are chosen again, even if Leader D has to exclude themselves. If there are any arguments against this, make them clear now. Navillus, before we start bickering and WIFOM'ing any more, please submit a team selection. Aggressive tone means we're sure of ourselves instead of just going along with someone else. Also, I have an argument and I'm making it clear now. First night - 3 people Second night - 4 people Right? Let's say A, B and C go on a mission and complete it successfully. Then D comes along for night 2, and that mission fails. D will get most/all of the blame since he wasn't on the successful team, even if the real spy is A, B or C and just chose not to sabotage to gain trust. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On February 20 2012 11:07 prplhz wrote: Also, I actually called him scum because he's trying to do something that will benefit scum but not town. You just explained some setup stuff. Why just me? Why not Dirk and Blazinghand, who are the ones who originally brought it up? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On February 20 2012 11:01 VisceraEyes wrote: The reason we don't do it in normal games is because it helps pick good kills for the mafia overnight - as this is something we don't have to worry about in this game, I see no problem pointing out when you feel like someone is town. That's not what I'm saying though. I'm not arguing that we can't be calling people town. I'm arguing we can't allow people to call other people town unless they give a legitimate reason. Suppose I call player X town because "I like what he is saying". It's human nature for player X to now trust me more. I've now given up absolutely nothing in exchange for player X's approval. On February 20 2012 11:01 VisceraEyes wrote: That being said, do you disagree with my assessment of Palmar or Blaze' initial posts/posting style Kitaman? I'm not sure I'd really call that an assessment. You mention that blazing is spammy and that Palmar is a bad scum, but that doesn't really mean much to me alignment wise until they provide some meaningful content. On February 20 2012 11:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Or were you just slipping in to try and throw some undue suspicion my way just because? <3 Notice how you automatically trust me less now that I called you out on something? If I had simply gone along and mentioned how I agree with your application of meta to the other players, you'd probably think better of me. | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
I'm glad for all the love I get this thread.. Must mean I'm doing something right =) But I do agree with kita. This overly buddying thing... just rubs me the wrong way. That was also why I called out prphlz out on his first post. It was a post just meant to be enhancing the effect that prphlz was town without him actually doing any pro town actions. "The first time someone calls you a horse you punch him on the nose, the second time someone calls you a horse you call him a jerk but the third time someone calls you a horse, well then perhaps it's time to go shopping for a saddle." The third time someone calls themself town I'll buy them a saddle... | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
Why aren't you calling Palmar out on it? He has said it twice, and he's a lot better and more experienced than I am, he should know that this is as wrong that you claim it to be, right? Right? I'm naying any team with chaos13 in it by the way. I'm leaning spy on him. Anyway, Navilus sucks and I doubt I'm going to yay any team he might make unless it's the exact same team that I'd make. With his activity and commitment I wouldn't trust him to tie his own shoelaces. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
Like I need to re-read this a bit, but I might be ready to take responsibility for that team. please allow me a few hours to become completely certain. I might swap out BH. | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On February 20 2012 20:13 prplhz wrote: I'm naying any team with chaos13 in it by the way. I'm leaning spy on him. Explain why. I've seen several of you say this so far, and not one of you have given any justification. | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
Nav.. POST A GOD DAMN TEAM ALREADY! Palmar have you thought more about that team...? I would like more reasoning then "I like this team". Prplhz - my last post was not an attack on you by any means but I can see how it could be perceived that way. I just used you as an example to emphasize my point. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
 It seems likely that a scum player would be less likely to nominate a player from there own team or approve a team with multiple scum players. If the day one or two fails, and there are two scum players in the group, that leaves only one trusted scum player for the final three days. We might be able to use this fact later on when looking at the team voting or locate a scum which votes nay to a team he was included on. | ||
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