I'm just speaking out of my ass but shouldn't pro's love the game. Naniwa in an interview once said "All i do is think about Starcraft" shouldn't it be enough then to just play the game against high level opponents and enjoy yourself? Even if the game has no useful outcome for Naniwa. But thats just my opinion.

Full.tilt

United Kingdom1709 Posts

December 13 2011 16:44 GMT

#26

On December 13 2011 23:39 Seeker wrote:
I just wish Naniwa had never pulled this sort of stunt...... now we got 10+ threads going on talking about it and 1000+ ppl all flaming one another....

asdkfajsdkl;fjaskl;djfkalsjdfk;jasdfjasdf poor TL.....

Didn't help that nazgul laid into him, as well as no specific warning to the top of the Group B thread to stop player bashing. Opened the floodgates for lot's of shit and not enough mods acting to do anything about it. So much for players come first. It suddenly turned into respect for viewers comes first.

It's kind of amusing to see how TL posters go from hating on entitled spectators when complaining about people who caster bash and tourney bash to suddenly, oh it's ok to feel entitled that the players should play their best to entertain in a dead rubber match, let's crucify one of the players.

On December 13 2011 23:15 Talin wrote:
Ultimately, people will care deeply about some issues, and there are many issues where people on both sides of it will care deeply about. Other than completely shutting down the forums, there is no way around it.

How many of the random posters that come into threads with one liners saying he should be banned or jump onto the "disrespect" bandwagon do actually care deeply though? Are they there to uphold some deep held belief or are they just posting to stir things up or add an extra post to the shit storm for the sake of it?

OpticalShot

Canada6330 Posts

December 13 2011 16:52 GMT

#27

It's definitely easier to hate and trash someone (presumably) anonymously on the internet than in person. I'm not an exception, I'm far more capable of 'hating more' here than in person. Even that being said, I don't think I would have been to hide my disappointment if I attended the event. He justified his actions, in his point of view, through the interview - but I don't think he showed enough consideration for all others involved in the game, including the opponent, fans, production, sponsors, etc.

Tyrran

France777 Posts

December 13 2011 16:56 GMT

#28

There is a difference for calling a player out on what he did and hating him.

I think Naniwa made a mistake here, as I expect more of players involved in ESPORTS.That doesnt mean i'll hate him forever and want im away from the scene at all. Naniwa is and remains one of the strongest foreign protoss, and he deserves respect for that.

TeamLiquid should chill, Naniwa should excuse himself ( which he kinda did in the hot_bid interview), and we should move on.

Roe

Canada6002 Posts

December 13 2011 17:01 GMT

#29

I don't really care. It's his loss. Keep watching rest of games. End of story.

Biff The Understudy

France7792 Posts

December 13 2011 17:36 GMT

#30

On December 13 2011 23:36 CharlieBrownsc wrote:

Show nested quote +

Just on the topic of Osama's death, it is really strange that people thought negatively of me for pointing out that Osama wasn't given the human right of a fair trial, which is international law

Well, the comparison between a kid dropping a game of Starcraft because he's pissed off he lost and the American sending illegally their Terminator to Chuck Norris a guy that is the major figure of international terrorism is a bit bold in my opinion. I probably agree with you on both issues, but I'm struggling to find the comparison relevant.

Arcane86

United States68 Posts

December 13 2011 18:42 GMT

#31

I feel a bit out of place here, but personally I thought the probe-rush was hilarious! Then I see people getting all angry. Honestly, why do we take this so seriously?

I feel the need to quote Total Biscuit here:
"Guys, [we] watch a game with giant tanks, fat floating space octopus and the machines from War of the Worlds, [we're] already occupying an entire universe of cheesy nonsense, embrace it."

Shenanigans = awesome

BluePotion

Indonesia35 Posts

December 13 2011 20:24 GMT

#32

AT FIRST:
"naniwa vs nestea, this is gonna be epic"

THEN:
"aaaw... that's quick...didn't expect that gonna happen. Oh well, let's move to the next game..."

Seeker

Where dat snitch at?36902 Posts

December 13 2011 22:04 GMT

#33

On December 14 2011 05:24 BluePotion wrote:
AT FIRST:
"naniwa vs nestea, this is gonna be epic"

THEN:
"aaaw... that's quick...didn't expect that gonna happen. Oh well, let's move to the next game..."

If only had that second response occurred for everyone :/