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I must be missing something. A lot of people like Sheth are saying Radfield is protown, but he only has one post as of now, and I don't see it. His post just states information any non first time players should know. In fact, he straightforwardly suggests Arc without caring about his alignment.
Anyhow, my analysis of his post indicates that it is a post both townie Radfield AND mafia Radfield would make. I would like to warn people not to jump to conclusions like that. They may be strong players, but that indicates nothing about their alignment.
My take on the election issue would be to elect the strong players for day 1. Arc has a more than barebones campaign and also more posts than the rest of the vets who have stepped forward, so the rest need to step it up.
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Why hello everyone. Since I (Harbinger) am 2 for 2 on being targeted by mafia night 2, I will not be running for mayor or pardoner, as I think it should be left to the players that usually get shot night one instead.
Are the elections on later days for different positions, other than mayor or pardoner? I'd assume mayor and pardoner are roles that once elected to you keep for the entire game, is this correct?
Professor Badass needs to post some more if they want to be an actual candidate for mayor. Low effort campaigns are scum campaigns.
Hi Sheth! And since you asked about it, the real names involved in this hydra are Joe and Nahien.
3 truths and 2 lies for you as well: We are both same age. We are both addicted to tea. One of us swing dances. One of us is bilingual. One of us has seen you, Sheth, in person. + Show Spoiler +(Don't look out your window)
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Hello again, this coming from the -other- half of TotallyNotTwoPeople (fun fact, we are totally not two people.) Just wanted to say Hi to everyone before going unconscious and vividly hallucinating for 4-12 hours. Will probably post more tomorrow (don't wanna commit too -to- much. Would hate to disappoint).
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@DEUS-ex-MAFIA Oh, I thought you said "GO to reread what they've done so far ;-)" like you'd found something and wanted people to seek it out too.
Anyway, I agree that elections should really be locked down as fast as possible, and on Radfield/Arctocod/ProfessorBadass. I don't particularly care too much who we elect among those though I'll strongly recommend Arctocod because that hydra is the best townie in the game, but I'll vote for any of these if it will keep anybody else out of office.
@GreYMisT I personally don't see anything wrong with Radfield endorsing Arctocod in his very own campaign post. Radfield knows that it will be a lot easier for town to win if both of them are elected and both of them are town so this make perfect sense to me, if Arctocod turns out not to be town then no real harm done. What I think is a bit weird is that nobody is endorsing ProfessorBadass since Curu is also pretty good at this game from what I've gathered. Wouldn't you agree with all this GreYMisT?
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On December 12 2011 16:53 prplhz wrote: @DEUS-ex-MAFIA Oh, I thought you said "GO to reread what they've done so far ;-)" like you'd found something and wanted people to seek it out too.
Anyway, I agree that elections should really be locked down as fast as possible, and on Radfield/Arctocod/ProfessorBadass. I don't particularly care too much who we elect among those though I'll strongly recommend Arctocod because that hydra is the best townie in the game, but I'll vote for any of these if it will keep anybody else out of office.
@GreYMisT I personally don't see anything wrong with Radfield endorsing Arctocod in his very own campaign post. Radfield knows that it will be a lot easier for town to win if both of them are elected and both of them are town so this make perfect sense to me, if Arctocod turns out not to be town then no real harm done. What I think is a bit weird is that nobody is endorsing ProfessorBadass since Curu is also pretty good at this game from what I've gathered. Wouldn't you agree with all this GreYMisT?
I agree with you that arctocod will most likely be my vote for mayor. Im leaning on electing prof. badass over rad atm, but ultimatly i am ok with either being elected into the pardoner position. the point i mentioned about radfield was just something that stood out to me initially, and sets me off on voting him for mayor. anyway, bedtime, final in a few hours. yay.
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On December 12 2011 16:36 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote: Are the elections on later days for different positions, other than mayor or pardoner? I'd assume mayor and pardoner are roles that once elected to you keep for the entire game, is this correct? Yes.
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Hello! Second game here, let's have a good game.
I have 2 questions for the veterans who are running; which I'll like them to answer.
1. How effectively can you scumhunt with the mayor/pardoner position as compared to as a regular townie? 2. If you were scum, how damaging would it be for town if you got the mayor/pardoner position, in your own opinion?
Lastly, comparing these two questions, do you think the benefits of you being in the mayor/pardoner position if you were town outweigh the cons if it turns out you get the position as mafia?
Sorry if I'm being incoherent, really tired right now.
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Oh you keep the elected role for the entire game? However I assume that
Bodyguards only protect players who were elected on that specific day?
If a player is later elected again, will he lose his current elected role?
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Why am I running for Mayor?
I am infinitely smart, suave, charismatic, modest, able, active, amazing, modest, and honest. And Erandorr's not bad either.
Anyone who has played with me will know I give my all in regards to activity and scumhunting every game that I am in. I will never avoid the game or lose interest. My biggest pet peeve ever is Townies who expect to be mindlessly carried or don't keep an active interest in the game.
Am I a better player than syllogism/Palmar/Radfield? Probably not. But I would not say I am bad either; in nearly all games where I was Town I have rooted out at least one scum and played a part in Town victories. I believe I am more than capable of contributing to Town and I know that I am Town; I do not know that about them.
In regards to Arctocod and Radfield, I would very strongly prefer Arctocod simply based on meta. Palmar's scum play is relatively disinterested and obvious and syllogism's consists of never posting anything. Radfield is a different story though, he twirled the Town around his fingers in LOTR Mafia, securing multiple mislynches and leading the Town by the nose. He would have led Mafia into a crushing victory had a third party not taken him out of the game during the night.
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On December 12 2011 17:20 Refallen wrote: Hello! Second game here, let's have a good game.
I have 2 questions for the veterans who are running; which I'll like them to answer.
1. How effectively can you scumhunt with the mayor/pardoner position as compared to as a regular townie? 2. If you were scum, how damaging would it be for town if you got the mayor/pardoner position, in your own opinion?
Lastly, comparing these two questions, do you think the benefits of you being in the mayor/pardoner position if you were town outweigh the cons if it turns out you get the position as mafia?
Sorry if I'm being incoherent, really tired right now. Those positions do not help us to scum hunt at all. The only real advantage is that we can not be killed on night 1. The pardoner role is potentially much more harmful in mafia hands as the only power mayor has is the anonymous extra vote. If we were mafia and elected to the position of the pardoner, it would eventually be quite clear that we aren't town aligned and thus us using the pardon would be almost inevitable. Pardoning a townie as mafia is just as harmful because then town has to decide whether the pardoned person is actually mafia or not. Now that I know that the role granted by the position isn't temporary, I think we will be running for pardoner.
To answer the final question, yes, especially considering the probabilities involved. It's far more likely that we are town than mafia in any given game.
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Citizens of Liquidia!
Changes of Government have occurred frequently in history, and in the history of our people. It is certain, however, that never was a change of Government attended with such far-reaching results as it will today. The situation of the Town is desperate. We are called upon to take over the leadership of the Town at a moment when it does not seem to develop towards a great rise. We are given power in circumstances of the greatest conceivable pressure, the pressure of the knowledge that, by itself, everything is lost, and that, in the eyes of the noblest minds, this represents a last attempt, while in the eyes of evil-wishers it should condemn the Multi-Headed Beast to final failure.
Unless the Town can be saved, by a miracle, the situation is bound to end in disaster. For during a period of 1day, events have moved downward without respite. On the other hand, this situation is only the result of the Mafia attacks: of the outcome of the murders, of our own internal, political, moral, and military collapse. For these reasons it is particularly important on a day like this to think back to the course of that misfortune.
We humbly accept the responsibility that comes with leading town on a day like this. It is only through our actions that we will convince you of our alignment, but what we need is time. Giving us the seat will give us the time needed to both apply our considerable weight towards the war effort, and to disprove, once and for all, any attempts from the Mafia to discredit our honest intentions.
The time has come my fellow Liquidians, to rally to a new banner. In unity lies strength; already many of the dissident factions have joined me. Out of the many, we shall forge an indivisible whole, capitulating only to a single throne. And from that throne, we shall watch over you!
Vote Arctocod for Mayor
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+ Show Spoiler +Hydras rock, I can just roleplay and let syllo actually scumhunt
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Checking in and looking forward to a good game!
I'm running for mayor.
Im still relative new to the TL mafia games but not to online mafia games in general. I post what i think and don't mind taking a leap of faith to get things done. Also, I mistrust anyone by default and have a healthy hatred towards mafiagame-veterans onelining the thread into poop.
I will listen to good argumentation and will execute what the majority wants when they make sense and ignore when it's all clear jibberish. Voting for me gives you an active and open minded mayor, not tainted and bitter by previous TL games and above all, a scumhunter who will not stop once he has smelled a red.
Cwave
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Good morning!
I'll be voting for Arctocod or possibly Radfield for office. These guys are powerful, experienced town players who are likely to get shot early on, so giving them bodyguards is a great plus if they are in fact town. They will make the best possible pro-town decisions as mayor.
If they do happen to be scum though, I actually think it'll be easier to spot them if they're in a position of power. Every action they make will be under constant scrutiny, and if they're using their power in a way that's hurting the town, we're gonna notice.
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EBWOP No disrespect intended to everyone else who is running. I'm sure you would do a good job as well, I just think it's better to elect our best townies. That's why I'm not bothering to campaign
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It's not even a question of merely selecting our "best" townies, but rather a combination of who usually plays solid and also highly likely to get shot. So for instance even if Sheth turns out to be a very good player, he isn't very likely to get shot on n1 anyway and thus electing him isn't optimal. The same applies to all the other newer players. There has to be a very good reason to suspect one or both of the main candidates to deviate from this strategy, from town point of view.
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Radfield when you are back, I would like to hear your thoughts on Dropbear and GiygaS
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On December 12 2011 16:17 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote: i dont like how the general attention is focussed on the election and not on the lynch... @prplhz, i have to start somewhere right?!
There isn't much info atm to base a lynch on so it makes sense to focus on elections for now right? Or did i miss a slip of anyone?
Further more, i do agree on the "good" players being fine candidates for mayor. I am however afraid that once they claim a mayor position, other veterans will start pingponging with him/them again and newer players get left out and important information gets lost in the roleplaying madness.
Concerning Artocod running for mayor, i find the selection of the image for his election a daring one. I hope it's not a hidden message.
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On December 12 2011 13:52 nyczbrandon wrote: I guess I'll follow majority vote because its my first time play :/
No, that's not in the best interest for our town! Vote on who you think made a scumslip or who your gutfeeling is telling you is a scummy bastard. And also say why you vote/think that way.
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Curu how can you say Palmars scumplay is obvious? Anyway, okey so basicly Radfield spoke up first on the vote veterans topic and none of the other had any disagreement. Of the involved players I feel most sure on Radfield and we should work together to ensure he becomes Pardoner. I'm not sure who else I want to elect. I don't want to see the Deus-ex or TnTp in office because I think they will be to tough to get a read on. I'm still onsure on The Professor and Arctocod but both I'm leaning against for office
Also GiygaS is scummy bastard.
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