TL Mafia XLV - Page 49

[9/28/2011 4:38:09 AM] Mig: palmar
[9/28/2011 4:38:12 AM] Mig: you are mafia arent you
[9/28/2011 9:16:03 AM] Palmar: in xlv?
[9/28/2011 9:16:09 AM] Palmar: no, town
[9/28/2011 9:17:03 AM] Mig: likely story
[9/28/2011 9:17:06 AM] Palmar: I'm blu pyro
[9/28/2011 9:17:07 AM] Palmar: wait
[9/28/2011 9:17:12 AM] Palmar: are you playing?
[9/28/2011 9:17:14 AM] Mig: yes
[9/28/2011 9:17:17 AM] Palmar: derp
[9/28/2011 9:17:26 AM] Mig: I have no idea if I should believe that or not lol
[9/28/2011 9:17:45 AM] Mig: lol you just claimed dt
[9/28/2011 9:17:54 AM] Palmar: if you're mafia
[9/28/2011 9:17:58 AM] Mig: nah I am town
[9/28/2011 9:18:02 AM] Palmar: fuck
[9/28/2011 9:19:09 AM] Palmar: if you're town
[9/28/2011 9:19:13 AM] Palmar: help me figure this out
[9/28/2011 9:19:16 AM] Palmar: oh wait
[9/28/2011 9:19:18 AM] Palmar: I got it
[9/28/2011 9:19:24 AM] Palmar: I'll just pm obvious townies that you know my role
[9/28/2011 9:19:40 AM] Palmar: meant to say something in the thread, but that's as good as claiming I have a role
[9/28/2011 9:20:27 AM] Mig: lol if you are actually dt that is great
[9/28/2011 9:20:33 AM] Palmar: anyway, is the thread worth reading?
[9/28/2011 9:20:43 AM] Mig: first 3 pages no
[9/28/2011 9:21:00 AM] Mig: actually everything but the end of page 12-13
[9/28/2011 9:21:02 AM] Mig: is worthless
[9/28/2011 9:21:04 AM] Palmar: I saw a bunch of people wanted to lynch me so I just went afk
[9/28/2011 9:22:17 AM] Mig: I have no idea if I should trust you or not
[9/28/2011 9:22:35 AM] Palmar: I know I should trust you
[9/28/2011 9:22:40 AM] Palmar: shouldn't
[9/28/2011 9:22:54 AM] Mig: yea thats fine it doesnt really matter whether you do or not
[9/28/2011 9:23:05 AM] Mig: if you are actually pyro its too late for you to decide
[9/28/2011 9:23:06 AM] Palmar: now you claim bitch
[9/28/2011 9:23:15 AM] Mig: I dont actually know if you are pyro
[9/28/2011 9:25:23 AM] Mig: the sick thing is you didnt realize we were both mafia in ace's game so maybe you are just careless enough to really not know?
[9/28/2011 9:25:43 AM] Mig: but on the other hand I know that you know that along with would you really not look at the player list if you were dt
[9/28/2011 9:25:46 AM] Mig: and just insta claim to me
[9/28/2011 9:26:10 AM] Palmar: good analysis.
[9/28/2011 9:26:15 AM] Palmar: I'm checking you night 1.
[9/28/2011 9:26:30 AM] Mig: lol
[9/28/2011 9:26:34 AM] Mig: lolol
[9/28/2011 9:27:07 AM] Mig: you are such a troll I really don't know what I should believe I guess I will be able to tell hopefully with how you play rest of the day
[9/28/2011 9:28:04 AM] Palmar: I don't intend to actually play
[9/28/2011 9:28:09 AM] Palmar: just pm people a bit
[9/28/2011 9:28:39 AM] Mig: k that sounds about right for mafia palmar
[9/28/2011 9:29:29 AM] Palmar: why even bother?
[9/28/2011 9:29:34 AM] Palmar: you're gonna murder me n1 anyway
[9/28/2011 9:29:43 AM] Mig: lolol
[9/28/2011 9:30:13 AM] Mig: sick story for not giving any effort
[9/28/2011 9:30:36 AM] Palmar: I mean, why do you bother trying to analyse me
[9/28/2011 9:31:36 AM] Mig: well that's a good question considering I expect to die n1 and I probably wouldn't try to lynch you/curu unless I was really sure but
[9/28/2011 9:31:39 AM] Mig: in the off chance I survive
[9/28/2011 9:31:55 AM] Mig: best that I know
[9/28/2011 9:32:20 AM] Palmar: wish I was a vigi, I'd just shoot you n1
[9/28/2011 9:32:21 AM] Palmar: just in case
[9/28/2011 9:33:03 AM] Mig: if you are actually town you should put effort in
[9/28/2011 9:34:14 AM] Mig: but I doubt you are town
[9/28/2011 9:34:14 AM] Palmar: I'm just gonna play exactly like in lotr
[9/28/2011 9:34:20 AM] Palmar: seems to be a good way to be not shot
[9/28/2011 9:34:37 AM] Mig: like even if you were disinterested I can't imagine you would be that careless
[9/28/2011 9:36:03 AM] Palmar: yeah you're no fun, and probably scum anyway
[9/28/2011 9:36:18 AM] Mig: lol
[9/28/2011 9:36:34 AM] Palmar: I'm gonna go see if jackal wants to talk to me
[9/28/2011 9:36:48 AM] Mig: he claimed mute in thread
[9/28/2011 9:37:12 AM] Palmar: oh, I thought he just didn't wanna talk to tnkted
[9/28/2011 9:37:15 AM] Palmar: and db
[9/28/2011 9:37:18 AM] Palmar: because of bads
[9/28/2011 9:37:19 AM] Mig: rofl
[9/28/2011 9:39:17 AM] Palmar: why does wbg think he's the shit?
[9/28/2011 9:39:34 AM] Mig: that's a good question
[9/28/2011 2:01:15 PM] Mig: palmar you make me sad that you are mafia
[9/28/2011 2:01:25 PM] Mig: I have no one to talk to
[9/28/2011 4:39:29 PM] Palmar: how about your team?
[9/28/2011 4:39:40 PM] Palmar: do they not want to talk with you?
[9/28/2011 4:39:49 PM] Palmar: Where is curu?
[9/28/2011 4:39:53 PM] Palmar: with lotr
[9/28/2011 4:39:56 PM] Palmar: did I die? win?
[9/28/2011 4:46:47 PM] Palmar: why does jackal think wbg is scum?
[9/29/2011 2:21:37 AM] Mig: you won lotr n
[9/29/2011 2:21:44 AM] Mig: now you should put effort into XLV
[9/29/2011 2:22:01 AM] Palmar: yay me!
[9/29/2011 2:22:03 AM] Palmar: jackal is scum
[9/29/2011 2:22:13 AM] Palmar: incog possibly too
[9/29/2011 2:22:20 AM] Palmar: curu possibly too
[9/29/2011 2:22:30 AM] Palmar: and probably some newbie/newbies
[9/29/2011 2:23:27 AM] Mig: hm hm
[9/29/2011 2:23:36 AM] Mig: wbg tho doesn't this look like he is overreacting so hard
[9/29/2011 2:23:41 AM] Mig: in lotr when a couple people voted him
[9/29/2011 2:23:44 AM] Mig: he didn't flip out
[9/29/2011 2:23:48 AM] Mig: he has posted literally like 30 times
[9/29/2011 2:23:56 AM] Mig: because of 2 votes on him
[9/29/2011 2:24:01 AM] Mig: in lotr he was calm and cool about it
[9/29/2011 2:24:11 AM] Mig: knowing there wasnt a real case there
[9/29/2011 2:24:11 AM] Palmar: "calm and cool" lol
[9/29/2011 2:24:16 AM] Mig: well
[9/29/2011 2:24:19 AM] Mig: in comparison
[9/29/2011 2:24:20 AM] Mig: to this
[9/29/2011 2:24:27 AM] Mig: where he went off the deep end
[9/29/2011 2:24:30 AM] Mig: to explode with 500 posts
[9/29/2011 2:25:37 AM] Mig: I agree with your point about jackal claiming mute being something he would do as mafia
[9/29/2011 2:25:43 AM] Mig: I told curu the same thing yesterday
[9/29/2011 2:25:43 AM] Palmar: yah, but it just seems counter-intuitive
[9/29/2011 2:25:54 AM] Palmar: like all he's doing is dragging suspicion onto himself
[9/29/2011 2:26:28 AM] Mig: well yea but you have to remember he is hot headed and new he isnt going to play 100% correctly as mafia
[9/29/2011 2:27:53 AM] Palmar: have you read his filter?
[9/29/2011 2:28:02 AM] Mig: I just read pages 16-20
[9/29/2011 2:28:24 AM] Palmar: Thing is, I don't think he's good enough to do what he's doing
[9/29/2011 2:28:43 AM] Palmar: he's not confident enough to be mafia and yet say "Well then vote me bitch" or "I dare you establish why I'm scummy"
[9/29/2011 2:29:38 AM] Mig: yea I noticied that line but once people do vote for him he freaks out
[9/29/2011 2:30:06 AM] Mig: doesnt that contradict with the attitude he is trying to display
[9/29/2011 2:31:04 AM] Palmar: are you scum?
[9/29/2011 2:31:28 AM] Palmar: he's the easy wagon, it's never the easy wagon.
[9/29/2011 2:32:22 AM] Mig: it is the easy wagon sometimes if someone outs themself but I haven't voted yet either I am still trying to figure out what is right
[9/29/2011 2:33:10 AM] Mig: and "easy wagon" he has 2 votes on him right now jackal has 3
[9/29/2011 2:35:21 AM] Mig: meh this sucks having just you and curu to talk to where is fucking syllo
[9/29/2011 2:35:33 AM] Palmar: lol
[9/29/2011 2:35:52 AM] Mig: like both the things you and curu tell me are vague and tell me basically nothing
[9/29/2011 2:36:04 AM] Palmar: he's scum
[9/29/2011 2:36:13 AM] Mig: yea he says the same about you
[9/29/2011 2:36:15 AM] Mig: great help
[9/29/2011 2:37:03 AM] Mig: where is the normal jackal defense btw when people call him out and he is scum doesnt he usually just completely blow them off
[9/29/2011 2:37:07 AM] Mig: and tell them to kiss his ass
[9/29/2011 2:37:23 AM] Mig: all his reponses to wbg were perfectly rational from his viewpoint
[9/29/2011 2:37:36 AM] Palmar: They have to be
[9/29/2011 2:37:59 AM] Palmar: after all, he's actively trying to get WBG lynched (which is to be honest a big green factor in my wbg book).
[9/29/2011 2:38:28 AM] Palmar: I'm not too sure what to read into incog's post
[9/29/2011 2:38:36 AM] Palmar: I guess it's a non-issue as lynching him day 1 would be dumb
[9/29/2011 2:38:53 AM] Palmar: he's good enough to reveal his alignment through simply posting
[9/29/2011 2:39:07 AM] Palmar: and lynching him case he's scum and not just lazy is not optimal
[9/29/2011 2:39:36 AM] Mig: incog'
[9/29/2011 2:39:50 AM] Mig: posts are fucking worthless
[9/29/2011 2:39:50 AM] Palmar: yeah, talking about incog
[9/29/2011 2:39:59 AM] Palmar: yes
[9/29/2011 2:40:13 AM] Palmar: But I don't wanna lynch him over it
[9/29/2011 2:40:25 AM] Mig: well obviously cant
[9/29/2011 2:40:34 AM] Mig: he added me on aim I havent had a chance to talk to him yet
[9/29/2011 2:40:40 AM] Palmar: I don't know
[9/29/2011 2:40:44 AM] Palmar: I can lynch a lot of people
[9/29/2011 2:40:48 AM] Mig: but hopefully tomorrow will get some clue
[9/29/2011 2:40:50 AM] Palmar: when I put my mind to it
[9/29/2011 2:40:58 AM] Mig: well I meant in terms of correct play
[9/29/2011 2:41:03 AM] Palmar: yeah
[9/29/2011 2:41:06 AM] Mig: I cant im agine it ever being right to lynch incog day1
[9/29/2011 2:41:06 AM] Palmar: of course.
[9/29/2011 2:41:13 AM] Palmar: yep, my point exactly
[9/29/2011 2:41:21 AM] Palmar: I'm actually trying not to be a dick in the thread this game
[9/29/2011 2:49:45 AM] Mig: man tho your initial reasoning for voting jackal
[9/29/2011 2:49:46 AM] Mig: so awful
[9/29/2011 2:50:01 AM] Mig: in ace's game all of jackals posts where he votes someone
[9/29/2011 2:50:04 AM] Mig: he says like half a sentence
[9/29/2011 2:50:12 AM] Mig: he voted wbg by just posting a picture
[9/29/2011 2:50:24 AM] Mig: and you use that as reasoning to vote for him and then use lotr meta as proof
[9/29/2011 2:51:49 AM] Mig: pretty much the worst meta argument I have ever seen just blatantly incorrect
[9/29/2011 2:52:04 AM] Palmar: read the other posts
[9/29/2011 2:52:15 AM] Mig: I just read all of his wbg and your posts again
[9/29/2011 2:52:36 AM] Mig: but all the reasons you actually listed in thread to vote jackal
[9/29/2011 2:52:39 AM] Mig: are straight incorrect
[9/29/2011 2:53:23 AM] Mig: like you went back to lotr to get that post of his to make your meta argument against jackal
[9/29/2011 2:53:27 AM] Mig: wouldnt you have also checked ace
[9/29/2011 2:53:30 AM] Mig: s
[9/29/2011 2:53:31 AM] Mig: game
[9/29/2011 2:53:35 AM] Mig: which just happened as well
[9/29/2011 2:53:59 AM] Palmar: I forgot that game, I also checked resurrection where he was scum
[9/29/2011 2:54:03 AM] Palmar: same thing, no informatino
[9/29/2011 2:54:16 AM] Mig: what
[9/29/2011 2:54:29 AM] Palmar: the point of it is he's stopping the flow of information
[9/29/2011 2:54:37 AM] Palmar: the meta argument is just to back it up for the newbies
[9/29/2011 2:54:45 AM] Mig: so you checked resurrection which is like 3 weeks old
[9/29/2011 2:54:52 AM] Mig: but ignored the game that just ended
[9/29/2011 2:55:01 AM] Mig: and forgot it wtf jackal was alive at the end
[9/29/2011 2:55:08 AM] Mig: we discussed at length about it
[9/29/2011 2:55:20 AM] Palmar: was jackal alive at the end in smg?
[9/29/2011 2:55:32 AM] Mig: he was the last person shot before game ended
[9/29/2011 2:55:36 AM] Palmar: I was scum in smg, I never actually read the threads when I'ms cum
[9/29/2011 2:55:45 AM] Palmar: so I didn't remember that one
[9/29/2011 2:56:30 AM] Mig: solid
[9/29/2011 2:56:35 AM] Mig: real solid
[9/29/2011 2:56:48 AM] Palmar: yeah, you're actively trying to stretch points
[9/29/2011 2:57:35 AM] Mig: k
[9/29/2011 2:58:08 AM] Palmar: can't tell if you're just putting on pressure to try and figure out if I'm scum, or if you're preparing to make a scummy-ass case against me
[9/29/2011 3:00:39 AM] Mig: I can't imagine you being town and not being able to tell my alignment right now
[9/29/2011 3:01:48 AM] Mig: we have played in enough games at this point I can't see how you would have doubts
[9/29/2011 3:04:27 AM] Palmar: That's so flawed
[9/29/2011 3:04:32 AM] Palmar: if I'm scum I already know your alignment
[9/29/2011 3:04:40 AM] Mig: well no shit
[9/29/2011 3:04:49 AM] Mig: but obviously you feign that you don't
[9/29/2011 3:05:21 AM] Palmar: but I'm town, and you're being terribly wrong about my motivations. Like you saw me do exactly the same thing to dropbear in xliv, where I take a simple meta argument and turn it into a case
[9/29/2011 3:05:37 AM] Mig: I saw you do the exact same thing day1 in personality
[9/29/2011 3:05:48 AM] Mig: where you made a terrible and incorrect meta argument against kurumi
[9/29/2011 3:06:00 AM] Mig: and I wanted to call you out as scum then but
[9/29/2011 3:06:03 AM] Mig: your other posts were good
[9/29/2011 3:06:06 AM] Mig: and I forgot about it
[9/29/2011 3:06:31 AM] Mig: but believe me I remembered it after
[9/29/2011 3:06:37 AM] Palmar: yeah
[9/29/2011 3:07:19 AM] Palmar: but about your alignment, aside from being wrong on almost every front (wbg scum, me scum, jackal town) I think you're town
[9/29/2011 3:07:35 AM] Palmar: btu I don't know if you're just being lazy or thick
[9/29/2011 3:08:03 AM] Mig: I am clearly not being lazy and everyting I have stated has been factually correct
[9/29/2011 3:08:18 AM] Mig: I havent stated whether wbg or jackal are scum yet
[9/29/2011 3:08:36 AM] Palmar: yes, but you're ignoring evidence that doesn't suit you, and you're using evidence that works for your point of view
[9/29/2011 3:08:47 AM] Palmar: you're bending evidence to fit the case, not bending the case to fit the evidence
[9/29/2011 3:09:01 AM] Mig: no I am not retard I don't have a case yet
[9/29/2011 3:09:10 AM] Mig: thats the entire point of talking to you is I am trying to make up my mind
[9/29/2011 3:09:12 AM] Palmar: Well you're acting like one
[9/29/2011 3:09:44 AM] Palmar: You say you read Jackal's filter.
[9/29/2011 3:09:56 AM] Palmar: he's basically ignored me and continued to focus on his interactions with bum
[9/29/2011 3:10:08 AM] Palmar: the best defense of jackal in the thread is that incog says both the wagons are terrible
[9/29/2011 3:10:30 AM] Palmar: which is going to be highly likely to be right regardless of incog's alignment
[9/29/2011 3:10:42 AM] Mig: huh
[9/29/2011 3:10:53 AM] Mig: if it's highly likely to be right why are you so certain of jackal
[9/29/2011 3:11:29 AM] Mig: but yea I can agree with that statement
[9/29/2011 3:11:31 AM] Palmar: because I think I'm more often right than incog
[9/29/2011 3:11:33 AM] Mig: concerning incog saying that
[9/29/2011 3:11:44 AM] Palmar: but that's the only big thing that's made me second-guess myself
[9/29/2011 3:11:50 AM] Mig: but that maybe putting incog on too high of a pedastal
[9/29/2011 3:11:54 AM] Palmar: yep
[9/29/2011 3:12:01 AM] Mig: he was incorrect and mislynched day1 on pypi
[9/29/2011 3:12:23 AM] Palmar: Well let's put it this way, he'd definitely say exactly that as mafia
[9/29/2011 3:12:30 AM] Palmar: but we can't lynch him today
[9/29/2011 3:12:38 AM] Palmar: he'd probably also say something similar as town
[9/29/2011 3:12:47 AM] Palmar: and then it comes down to whether or not I think he's right
[9/29/2011 3:12:54 AM] Mig: right
[9/29/2011 3:13:13 AM] Palmar: and until jackal's defense is something more than an omgus on wbg I'm not convinced he's right
[9/29/2011 3:14:08 AM] Palmar: but the chances of him being right are still significantly higher than most other people in the game
[9/29/2011 3:17:54 AM] Mig: yea its a really good point
[9/29/2011 3:18:41 AM] Palmar: you scum?
[9/29/2011 3:19:01 AM] Palmar: well here's wifom for you
[9/29/2011 3:19:10 AM] Palmar: I'm gonna check if incog burns tonight
[9/29/2011 3:19:20 AM] Palmar: at this rate, at least.
[9/29/2011 3:19:54 AM] Palmar: I don't think curu actually needs to be checked, he'll give himself away soon enough
[9/29/2011 3:21:19 AM] Mig: that would be useless
[9/29/2011 3:21:29 AM] Mig: what are the odds incog is mafia and not the gf
[9/29/2011 3:21:41 AM] Palmar: good point
[9/29/2011 3:27:55 AM] Palmar: ok just talked to curu he's scum.
[9/29/2011 3:28:14 AM] Palmar: and he's taking a page out of cheesekid's book, it's generally safe to tunnel me as people always think I'm scum
[9/29/2011 3:28:14 AM] Palmar: check it
[9/29/2011 3:28:23 AM] Palmar: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11570450
[9/29/2011 3:28:40 AM] Palmar: this is interesting, like you can say my argument against jackal and defense of wbg is bad
[9/29/2011 3:28:47 AM] Palmar: but this post actually comes before any of that.
[9/29/2011 3:29:16 AM] Palmar: I had actually said nothing in the thread before this post
[9/29/2011 3:29:31 AM] Palmar: asked people to add me on skype and said that I could ignore the game for a while.
[9/29/2011 3:30:28 AM] Mig: ok but so what we both know that curu trolls at the beginning as town/scum what do you take that post as serious
[9/29/2011 3:30:39 AM] Mig: he didnt vote for you he didnt make a case against you
[9/29/2011 3:30:44 AM] Mig: why are you looking so hard into nothing
[9/29/2011 3:31:03 AM] Mig: I think curu is shady on skype but that post is a throwaway joke comment
[9/29/2011 3:31:05 AM] Palmar: if he was trolling
[9/29/2011 3:31:12 AM] Palmar: why does it still apply'
[9/29/2011 3:31:13 AM] Palmar: ?
[9/29/2011 3:32:08 AM] Mig: you just gave like 6 reasons for why a 6 word comment makes curu scum
[9/29/2011 3:32:18 AM] Palmar: yeah?
[9/29/2011 3:32:29 AM] Palmar: and you actually have a problem with that?
[9/29/2011 3:32:45 AM] Mig: I have a problem with it being pointless its null
[9/29/2011 3:32:53 AM] Palmar: I figured out tnkted was town on 1 single word in cosmic horror mafia
[9/29/2011 3:33:07 AM] Palmar: and I forced a no-lynch to safe him, on 1 word.
[9/29/2011 3:33:17 AM] Palmar: it's the little things that give mafia away man
[9/29/2011 3:33:20 AM] Palmar: not the big stuff
[9/29/2011 3:33:40 AM] Mig: well agree to disagree I always try to look at cases as a whole
[9/29/2011 3:33:48 AM] Mig: instead of tunneling in on 1 single aspect
[9/29/2011 3:34:02 AM] Mig: curu is shady on skype and putting 0 effort into the game
[9/29/2011 3:34:22 AM] Mig: but him giving a throwaway line about you being scummy is nothing
[9/29/2011 3:34:34 AM] Palmar: Not when it's basis for tunneling later on
[9/29/2011 3:34:49 AM] Palmar: like, technically it could be bait and switch tactic, like I've sometimes done myself
[9/29/2011 3:34:58 AM] Palmar: but it doesn't look like he's actually refining
[9/29/2011 3:35:08 AM] Palmar: or working on his case, or actively seeking another one
[9/29/2011 3:36:43 AM] Mig: it's obvious he isn't trying but that comment doesnt show anything it is just curu being useless
[9/29/2011 3:37:54 AM] Palmar: well he still has the day to post a bit
[9/29/2011 3:38:10 AM] Palmar: Why are you putting so much emphasis on it being just that one comment
[9/29/2011 3:38:16 AM] Palmar: at the time, the comment was completely harmless
[9/29/2011 3:38:26 AM] Palmar: it's what he does after it that needs to be looked at
[9/29/2011 3:38:57 AM] Palmar: when the comment gives him an excuse to just keep tunneling without putting in any effort, without submitting reads
[9/29/2011 3:39:10 AM] Palmar: like, he comes back today with another one "I still wanna lynch Palmar"
[9/29/2011 3:39:38 AM] Palmar: yeah, I'm actually just going to switch my vote to Curu.
[9/29/2011 3:41:08 AM] Mig: I don't think curu plans out things as scum where he randomly says you are scummy so he can tunnel you later
[9/29/2011 3:41:39 AM] Palmar: no I don't think that was actually his plan
[9/29/2011 3:41:40 AM] Mig: but right now I think both of you are scummy
[9/29/2011 3:41:45 AM] Palmar: I just think it played out that way
[9/29/2011 3:41:50 AM] Palmar: and he seized the opportunity
[9/29/2011 3:42:00 AM] Palmar: he knows you think I'm scummy
[9/29/2011 3:42:19 AM] Palmar: so there is no reason for him to even consider it
[9/29/2011 4:04:54 AM] Palmar: so curu is confirmed scum now
[9/29/2011 4:05:10 AM] Mig: how
[9/29/2011 4:05:18 AM] Mig: I am seeing it the other way around actually
[9/29/2011 4:05:25 AM] Palmar: meh
[9/29/2011 4:05:28 AM] Mig: if he is mafia
[9/29/2011 4:05:36 AM] Mig: why did he post saying immediately that his role pm was all black
[9/29/2011 4:05:41 AM] Mig: unless he had a sample town pm
[9/29/2011 4:05:50 AM] Palmar: mine is all black btw
[9/29/2011 4:05:52 AM] Palmar: but yeah
[9/29/2011 4:06:09 AM] Mig: well yea I cant really believe that since you are saying it now but curu claimed it right away
[9/29/2011 4:06:23 AM] Palmar: yah whatever
[9/29/2011 4:06:35 AM] Mig: lolol poor palmar
[9/29/2011 4:08:56 AM] Mig: just curious how exactly did it ever make curu confirmed mafia?
[9/29/2011 4:09:13 AM] Palmar: because he wouldn't jump something so obvious if he wasn't looking so hard at it
[9/29/2011 4:09:34 AM] Palmar: if the mafia role pm actually had a red color in it
[9/29/2011 4:09:39 AM] Palmar: I'm going to murder kurumio
[9/29/2011 4:09:40 AM] Palmar: lol
[9/29/2011 4:10:16 AM] Mig: if he posts a red one pretty much 0% chance you don't get lynched
[9/29/2011 4:10:56 AM] Mig: I am trying to consider scenarios where you and curu could both be town now but curu seems really town unless he had a copy of the townie pm from kurumi beforehand
[9/29/2011 4:11:15 AM] Mig: I can't imagine he would claim in thread mine was black if he were mafia unless he knew for sure townies also got black
[9/29/2011 4:12:32 AM] Mig: and really the fact that instead of saying that you immediately went omg curu is scum
[9/29/2011 4:12:38 AM] Mig: makes you look ridiculously bad
[9/29/2011 4:21:14 AM] Palmar: BLU Pyro
BLU PyroMmhmhmhmhm p! Phphp ahah dishshhpners hherhe!

Alignment Detective. Spychecks people. They either burn or not. Thus, Pyro is given result BLU or RED. RED Spy comes back as BLU unless framed.
[9/29/2011 4:21:35 AM] Palmar: anyway
[9/29/2011 4:21:38 AM] Palmar: I'm off
[9/29/2011 4:22:19 AM] Mig: cya
[9/29/2011 4:22:29 AM] Palmar: please tell me
[9/29/2011 4:22:42 AM] Palmar: that this is the way he formatted all the messages
[9/29/2011 4:22:43 AM] Palmar: if not
[9/29/2011 4:23:00 AM] Palmar: I'm just going to break a rule and get modkilled
[9/29/2011 4:23:07 AM] Mig: yea it is mine is a straight copy/paste from the op
[9/29/2011 4:23:14 AM] Mig: similar to that
[9/29/2011 4:23:30 AM] Palmar: well it isn't a straight copy paste
[9/29/2011 4:23:32 AM] Palmar: you scum?
[9/29/2011 4:23:45 AM] Palmar: it has BLU Pyro twice in it
[9/29/2011 4:23:47 AM] Palmar: at the top
[9/29/2011 4:23:57 AM] Mig: oh you are right
[9/29/2011 4:23:59 AM] Mig: ok mine isnt like that
[9/29/2011 4:24:06 AM] Mig: mine is literally a completely straight copy
[9/29/2011 4:24:59 AM] Palmar: yeah I'm fucked, nice. (I actually thought he had pulled all the roles, and then pasted shit because mine is worded that way, I used it in the analysis post to try to confirm my role message as correct).
[9/29/2011 4:25:10 AM] Palmar: like first he pasted role name
[9/29/2011 4:25:14 AM] Palmar: then copy pasted all
[9/29/2011 4:25:30 AM] Palmar: don't point it out if yours isn't like that
[9/29/2011 4:26:37 AM] Mig: kurumi just said pms are in the op
[9/29/2011 4:27:45 AM] Mig: oh but red pyro if formatted similar to your pms lol
[9/29/2011 4:28:25 AM] Mig: that makes you look even worse
[9/29/2011 4:28:33 AM] Palmar: what?
[9/29/2011 4:28:45 AM] Mig: RED Pyro
RED Pyro is known for hit and run tactics. He will choose his victim and attack him from behind, then run away, leaving him to the after burn damage.
[9/29/2011 4:28:59 AM] Mig: red pyro is the only one that repeats the name
[9/29/2011 4:29:27 AM] Mig: if you yourself were the red pyro
[9/29/2011 4:29:40 AM] Mig: you could very easily have thought that was how the blue pyro would be formatted
[9/29/2011 4:30:18 AM] Palmar: that doesn't even make any sensr
[9/29/2011 4:30:23 AM] Palmar: anyway, said I'm off
[9/29/2011 4:30:28 AM] Mig: k cya
[9/29/2011 1:37:35 PM] Mig: if you are actually dt
[9/29/2011 1:37:39 PM] Mig: I will literally never forgive you
[9/29/2011 1:37:53 PM] Mig: it will be on the same level as aces game if you had cost us teh victory
[9/29/2011 3:05:35 PM] Mig: haha!
[9/29/2011 3:05:38 PM] Mig: death to palmar!