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As a spectator I kindly request we cut the flaming. ^_^
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On September 06 2011 11:44 GMarshal wrote:
/waves.
As a spectator I kindly request we cut the flaming. ^_^
Yawn.
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On September 06 2011 04:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
Wtf why would mafia not res ON? That's 1 KP, mafia plus zombie= 1 KP.
Because ON is scum. Why make us lynch a scum twice when they can resurrect one of the townies they killed and make us lynch town?
On September 06 2011 11:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I have an idea. It may already be too late, but it's worth doing probably. @Jackal, to make sure sandroba doesn't get RBd again, you could protect him.
Inhibitor (RB) is dead according to sinani. If Jackal goes for Sandroba, it shouldn't be for this reason. In fact, he shouldn't go for sandroba at all, because that way scum will know exactly who he's going for. Or maybe he should go for sandroba because scum now think he won't go for him.
Or maybe Jackal is mafia.
chaos13's To Do List
1. Lynch Ace
2. Lynch bumatlarge
3. Survive the night
4. Lynch jcarlsoniv, Kenpachi, and Jackal if the game isn't over.
Last remaining scum are in those five names.
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On September 06 2011 11:44 GMarshal wrote:
/waves.
As a spectator I kindly request we cut the flaming. ^_^
Pretty much this. Everyone arguing with Ace can shut up now cause you've successfully gone nowhere after about five pages. Until you or he brings some new information or ideas to the discussion all you're doing is wasting time.
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On September 06 2011 11:44 GMarshal wrote:
As a spectator I kindly request we cut the flaming. ^_^
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On September 06 2011 11:46 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 04:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
Wtf why would mafia not res ON? That's 1 KP, mafia plus zombie= 1 KP. Because ON is scum. Why make us lynch a scum twice when they can resurrect one of the townies they killed and make us lynch town?
Because if there's 3 mafia and we're lynching the last two they automatically lose.
Also in an optimal situation it makes NO sense to use the unreliable double lynch as a mafia KP when ressing ON will give them 2 KP no matter how many mafia they have left alive, as one of the current resses is almost certainly a zombie.
Make sense?
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On September 06 2011 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 11:31 Ace wrote:On September 06 2011 11:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 06 2011 11:22 Ace wrote:
Look at the role description for Coroner in the OP. Just read it. Tell me what it means. Coroner
Can look at a corpse and determine alignment and role. May be used any time, and will instantly return the information (as soon as I get the pm). It does not say "one per day". what does "look at a corpse" mean? One. A Corpse. Not "a corpse, but 2 if my balls are tingly". Detective: You can investigate a player once per day and get their alignment. Are you honestly confused and think that this means the detective can possibly investigate TWO players? If I give you a hamburger, how many are you holding in your hand? The detective role says ONCE PER DAY The coroner role DOES NOT. Jesus
I am a Coroner.
redFF was my Apprentice.
When I was lynched Day 1, I had not used either of my checks (note: the role pm did not say there was a limit to checks per day)
So redFF got them both when I died. He only used one, on Varpulis, but he said that he used one on me, too. But the thing is he knew that I was Coroner since he was my apprentice and decided to check someone else.
So today, when I was revived, I was notified that I only had one check left. So I checked OriginalName, who was/is an inhibitor, to check how accurate the speculative scumteam of ON, bum, and Ace was. Obviously, from my information, it was pretty accurate.
Which would mean redFF lied and something isn't adding up here.
Sinani started with 2 checks. He could use both in one day.
He dies without using any checks.
redFF used one on Varp, and then lied and said he used one on Sinani because he knew Sinani was the Coroner anyway. He said he lost both of his checks at this point.
Sinani is revived, and uses his check on ON and finds him to be Scum. Ok lets assume all this is true. There is a major snag.
Earlier I pointed out that a backup role can not know the name of the player who has the original role. That is just too broken for the Town to have. Even so, lets assume this shit actually went down. Again - pay attention. Sinani said that redFF knew he was the Coroner but lied about using the check. Why oh why does Sinani have information about redFF's role? WHY? Think about it.
The Coroner knows his back up. Sinani knows redFF is his back up.
The back up knows the Coroner. redFF knows Sinani is the coroner.
Hence, they both know that the other is Town aligned!. Perfect. So the Coroner has 2 checks per day. Ace misread the OP. Sinani and redFF both knew about each other's roles at the start of the game and both knew the other was Inncocent.
On September 01 2011 23:08 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 12:31 sinani206 wrote:
/confirm
Meta and policies aren't a good enough case for a lynch right now.
The subject of Varpulis was a nice way to start discussion, but there's no need to tunnel.
All of redFF's posts, however are very short and tangential, except for his analysis of Varpulis that was based entirely on meta. FoS redFF. this is not a good reason to fos and actually makes little to no sense. current scumteam imo=varpulis, sinani, ace if i had to name it right now. i have ON as town, going out see ya guys later.
On September 02 2011 14:48 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 14:37 sinani206 wrote:On September 02 2011 10:27 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 02 2011 10:12 sinani206 wrote:On September 02 2011 10:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 02 2011 09:20 Kenpachi wrote:
bro, I dont recall playing with you 3 so i asked for a general gist of your gameplay from previous games I misunderstood what you were asking, my mistake. But how about you actually do something productive for the town? I might be more inclined to believe you if you were actually trying to help. Every post you've made has been largely unhelpful. That's Kenpachi for you. Also, who would've guessed: sandroba has a plan. And I see no gaping issues with this plan, except for the fact that we can't decide who the three candidates should be.If we can actually find three people who are scummy, then we will be able to use the plan to our advantage. But is it really worth our time to agree on everyone's top three? I like how sinani has completely disregarded the fact that I think he could be scum. Also, he ignored the fact that we already figured picking 3 candidates wouldn't work. He has contributed very little. Currently he's feeling the scummiest to me. #vote sinani206 I'm sorry, I though it would be obvious that I knew that you thought I could be scum. I have acknowledged this in previous posts.
Anyway, redFF just keeps feeling more and more scummy to me. I will put my vote on him for now.
##Vote: redFF
PS: I know you think I'm not contributing too. I'm explicitly acknowledging this so that you don't think that I'm disregarding it. LOL. im sorry but that is the worst post in the game so far. this guy and varp are the lynches.
On September 03 2011 00:12 redFF wrote:
ace please start posting properly. sinani is looking scummy as hell atm i agree, nice chainsaw of his buddy varpulis :D
On September 03 2011 06:56 redFF wrote:
kk since i have a feeling i will die tonight here is scumreads, in order from scummiest to least scummy(but still scummy)
varpulis, sinani, sandroba, originalname, ace(though his posting is getting better), bumatlarge.
Don't resurrect varpulis or sinani plz coroner varp.
So why did they call each other Scum, push cases against one another, Sinani voted for redFF, and redFF called Sinani one of his top Scum reads.
2 players that knew from the get-go that they were both Innocent and they did this.
There's your behavior analysis sandroba. Now bow down to the throne.
Fucking rape.
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On September 06 2011 11:46 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 04:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
Wtf why would mafia not res ON? That's 1 KP, mafia plus zombie= 1 KP. Because ON is scum. Why make us lynch a scum twice when they can resurrect one of the townies they killed and make us lynch town? Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 11:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I have an idea. It may already be too late, but it's worth doing probably. @Jackal, to make sure sandroba doesn't get RBd again, you could protect him.
Inhibitor (RB) is dead according to sinani. If Jackal goes for Sandroba, it shouldn't be for this reason. In fact, he shouldn't go for sandroba at all, because that way scum will know exactly who he's going for. Or maybe he should go for sandroba because scum now think he won't go for him. Or maybe Jackal is mafia. chaos13's To Do List 1. Lynch Ace 2. Lynch bumatlarge 3. Survive the night 4. Lynch jcarlsoniv, Kenpachi, and Jackal if the game isn't over. Last remaining scum are in those five names.
It gives them KP Chaos. 1 for ON being scum .5 for ON being Zombiefied.
iGrok answered this a couple pages ago. It also gives them their role blocker back. It also forces us to lynch known scum. Effectively removing one of our lynches.
And if you didn't call me scum at least once I'd be disappointed.
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On September 06 2011 11:52 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 11:46 chaos13 wrote:On September 06 2011 04:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
Wtf why would mafia not res ON? That's 1 KP, mafia plus zombie= 1 KP. Because ON is scum. Why make us lynch a scum twice when they can resurrect one of the townies they killed and make us lynch town? On September 06 2011 11:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I have an idea. It may already be too late, but it's worth doing probably. @Jackal, to make sure sandroba doesn't get RBd again, you could protect him.
Inhibitor (RB) is dead according to sinani. If Jackal goes for Sandroba, it shouldn't be for this reason. In fact, he shouldn't go for sandroba at all, because that way scum will know exactly who he's going for. Or maybe he should go for sandroba because scum now think he won't go for him. Or maybe Jackal is mafia. chaos13's To Do List 1. Lynch Ace 2. Lynch bumatlarge 3. Survive the night 4. Lynch jcarlsoniv, Kenpachi, and Jackal if the game isn't over. Last remaining scum are in those five names. It gives them KP Chaos. 1 for ON being scum .5 for ON being Zombiefied. iGrok answered this a couple pages ago. It also gives them their role blocker back. It also forces us to lynch known scum. Effectively removing one of our lynches. And if you didn't call me scum at least once I'd be disappointed.
Actually it only gives 0.5 for ON being mafia.
0.5 for ON being mafia, 0.5 for ON being a zombie, 0.5 for the zombie that was revived today. 1.5 total, round up to 2, mafia gets 2 KP. That's definitely better than having no mafia members alive, when the game is over lol...
On September 06 2011 11:51 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 06 2011 11:31 Ace wrote:On September 06 2011 11:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 06 2011 11:22 Ace wrote:
Look at the role description for Coroner in the OP. Just read it. Tell me what it means. Coroner
Can look at a corpse and determine alignment and role. May be used any time, and will instantly return the information (as soon as I get the pm). It does not say "one per day". what does "look at a corpse" mean? One. A Corpse. Not "a corpse, but 2 if my balls are tingly". Detective: You can investigate a player once per day and get their alignment. Are you honestly confused and think that this means the detective can possibly investigate TWO players? If I give you a hamburger, how many are you holding in your hand? The detective role says ONCE PER DAY The coroner role DOES NOT. Jesus Show nested quote +
I am a Coroner.
redFF was my Apprentice.
When I was lynched Day 1, I had not used either of my checks (note: the role pm did not say there was a limit to checks per day)
So redFF got them both when I died. He only used one, on Varpulis, but he said that he used one on me, too. But the thing is he knew that I was Coroner since he was my apprentice and decided to check someone else.
So today, when I was revived, I was notified that I only had one check left. So I checked OriginalName, who was/is an inhibitor, to check how accurate the speculative scumteam of ON, bum, and Ace was. Obviously, from my information, it was pretty accurate.
Which would mean redFF lied and something isn't adding up here. Sinani started with 2 checks. He could use both in one day. He dies without using any checks. redFF used one on Varp, and then lied and said he used one on Sinani because he knew Sinani was the Coroner anyway. He said he lost both of his checks at this point. Sinani is revived, and uses his check on ON and finds him to be Scum. Ok lets assume all this is true. There is a major snag. Earlier I pointed out that a backup role can not know the name of the player who has the original role. That is just too broken for the Town to have. Even so, lets assume this shit actually went down. Again - pay attention. Sinani said that redFF knew he was the Coroner but lied about using the check. Why oh why does Sinani have information about redFF's role? WHY? Think about it. The Coroner knows his back up. Sinani knows redFF is his back up. The back up knows the Coroner. redFF knows Sinani is the coroner. Hence, they both know that the other is Town aligned!. Perfect. So the Coroner has 2 checks per day. Ace misread the OP. Sinani and redFF both knew about each other's roles at the start of the game and both knew the other was Inncocent. Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 23:08 redFF wrote:On September 01 2011 12:31 sinani206 wrote:
/confirm
Meta and policies aren't a good enough case for a lynch right now.
The subject of Varpulis was a nice way to start discussion, but there's no need to tunnel.
All of redFF's posts, however are very short and tangential, except for his analysis of Varpulis that was based entirely on meta. FoS redFF. this is not a good reason to fos and actually makes little to no sense. current scumteam imo=varpulis, sinani, ace if i had to name it right now. i have ON as town, going out see ya guys later. Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 14:48 redFF wrote:On September 02 2011 14:37 sinani206 wrote:On September 02 2011 10:27 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 02 2011 10:12 sinani206 wrote:On September 02 2011 10:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 02 2011 09:20 Kenpachi wrote:
bro, I dont recall playing with you 3 so i asked for a general gist of your gameplay from previous games I misunderstood what you were asking, my mistake. But how about you actually do something productive for the town? I might be more inclined to believe you if you were actually trying to help. Every post you've made has been largely unhelpful. That's Kenpachi for you. Also, who would've guessed: sandroba has a plan. And I see no gaping issues with this plan, except for the fact that we can't decide who the three candidates should be.If we can actually find three people who are scummy, then we will be able to use the plan to our advantage. But is it really worth our time to agree on everyone's top three? I like how sinani has completely disregarded the fact that I think he could be scum. Also, he ignored the fact that we already figured picking 3 candidates wouldn't work. He has contributed very little. Currently he's feeling the scummiest to me. #vote sinani206 I'm sorry, I though it would be obvious that I knew that you thought I could be scum. I have acknowledged this in previous posts.
Anyway, redFF just keeps feeling more and more scummy to me. I will put my vote on him for now.
##Vote: redFF
PS: I know you think I'm not contributing too. I'm explicitly acknowledging this so that you don't think that I'm disregarding it. LOL. im sorry but that is the worst post in the game so far. this guy and varp are the lynches. Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 00:12 redFF wrote:
ace please start posting properly. sinani is looking scummy as hell atm i agree, nice chainsaw of his buddy varpulis :D Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 06:56 redFF wrote:
kk since i have a feeling i will die tonight here is scumreads, in order from scummiest to least scummy(but still scummy)
varpulis, sinani, sandroba, originalname, ace(though his posting is getting better), bumatlarge.
Don't resurrect varpulis or sinani plz coroner varp. So why did they call each other Scum, push cases against one another, Sinani voted for redFF, and redFF called Sinani one of his top Scum reads. 2 players that knew from the get-go that they were both Innocent and they did this. There's your behavior analysis sandroba. Now bow down to the throne. Fucking rape.
I fail to see how this concretely establishes how Sinani and redFF knew each others' roles at the beginning of the game.
All I see is that this reaffirms what we already knew; that redFF played badly.
Since you're claiming you're gonna come back and kick ass tomorrow, would it appease you if we lynched ON and sinani?
-_-
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OK, Ace, you want the truth?
Alright, here it is.
My role PM said exactly what it says in the OP. It did not tell me who my apprentice is, or even that I had one.
When I died, redFF comes and claims backup. I chose to believe him based on these facts. - He says that I was innocent and that I should be revived
- I had a check left when I was revived, so he could only have used one.
redFF probably was told that he was the apprentice when I died, and obviously given my name.
So that's why we weren't treating each other like confirmed townies the first day.
Happy?
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If redFF was mafia claiming that shit why would he claim he can check 2 people? Mafia would never claim that shit. If he had some kind of agend behind his claim and wanted something out of it he would keep it as simple as possible.
1) He claimed the coroner is dead. Huge risk for mafia as any coroner claim would get both lynched and net us one free scum always.
2)Since his claim rellied on no coroner counter claim anyway, why in hell claim coroner aprentice? If he wanted sinani alive why not claim: I'm coroner, I checked sinani, he is town. Why the hell would you say you checked 2 people in the first place, as that would have to be pulled out of nowhere, there is no mention of this in the OP and would only serve to draw more suspicion onto you.
That makes no sense as mafia. NO SENSE. It's ludicrous.
@Ace that's not behaviour analysis. That's trying to make something out of nothing and twist it like you want to get your expected result.
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On September 06 2011 11:51 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 06 2011 11:31 Ace wrote:On September 06 2011 11:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 06 2011 11:22 Ace wrote:
Look at the role description for Coroner in the OP. Just read it. Tell me what it means. Coroner
Can look at a corpse and determine alignment and role. May be used any time, and will instantly return the information (as soon as I get the pm). It does not say "one per day". what does "look at a corpse" mean? One. A Corpse. Not "a corpse, but 2 if my balls are tingly". Detective: You can investigate a player once per day and get their alignment. Are you honestly confused and think that this means the detective can possibly investigate TWO players? If I give you a hamburger, how many are you holding in your hand? The detective role says ONCE PER DAY The coroner role DOES NOT. Jesus Show nested quote +
I am a Coroner.
redFF was my Apprentice.
When I was lynched Day 1, I had not used either of my checks (note: the role pm did not say there was a limit to checks per day)
So redFF got them both when I died. He only used one, on Varpulis, but he said that he used one on me, too. But the thing is he knew that I was Coroner since he was my apprentice and decided to check someone else.
So today, when I was revived, I was notified that I only had one check left. So I checked OriginalName, who was/is an inhibitor, to check how accurate the speculative scumteam of ON, bum, and Ace was. Obviously, from my information, it was pretty accurate.
Which would mean redFF lied and something isn't adding up here. Sinani started with 2 checks. He could use both in one day. He dies without using any checks. redFF used one on Varp, and then lied and said he used one on Sinani because he knew Sinani was the Coroner anyway. He said he lost both of his checks at this point. Sinani is revived, and uses his check on ON and finds him to be Scum. Ok lets assume all this is true. There is a major snag. Earlier I pointed out that a backup role can not know the name of the player who has the original role. That is just too broken for the Town to have. Even so, lets assume this shit actually went down. Again - pay attention. Sinani said that redFF knew he was the Coroner but lied about using the check. Why oh why does Sinani have information about redFF's role? WHY? Think about it. The Coroner knows his back up. Sinani knows redFF is his back up. The back up knows the Coroner. redFF knows Sinani is the coroner. Hence, they both know that the other is Town aligned!. Perfect. So the Coroner has 2 checks per day. Ace misread the OP. Sinani and redFF both knew about each other's roles at the start of the game and both knew the other was Inncocent. Show nested quote +On September 01 2011 23:08 redFF wrote:On September 01 2011 12:31 sinani206 wrote:
/confirm
Meta and policies aren't a good enough case for a lynch right now.
The subject of Varpulis was a nice way to start discussion, but there's no need to tunnel.
All of redFF's posts, however are very short and tangential, except for his analysis of Varpulis that was based entirely on meta. FoS redFF. this is not a good reason to fos and actually makes little to no sense. current scumteam imo=varpulis, sinani, ace if i had to name it right now. i have ON as town, going out see ya guys later. Show nested quote +On September 02 2011 14:48 redFF wrote:On September 02 2011 14:37 sinani206 wrote:On September 02 2011 10:27 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 02 2011 10:12 sinani206 wrote:On September 02 2011 10:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 02 2011 09:20 Kenpachi wrote:
bro, I dont recall playing with you 3 so i asked for a general gist of your gameplay from previous games I misunderstood what you were asking, my mistake. But how about you actually do something productive for the town? I might be more inclined to believe you if you were actually trying to help. Every post you've made has been largely unhelpful. That's Kenpachi for you. Also, who would've guessed: sandroba has a plan. And I see no gaping issues with this plan, except for the fact that we can't decide who the three candidates should be.If we can actually find three people who are scummy, then we will be able to use the plan to our advantage. But is it really worth our time to agree on everyone's top three? I like how sinani has completely disregarded the fact that I think he could be scum. Also, he ignored the fact that we already figured picking 3 candidates wouldn't work. He has contributed very little. Currently he's feeling the scummiest to me. #vote sinani206 I'm sorry, I though it would be obvious that I knew that you thought I could be scum. I have acknowledged this in previous posts.
Anyway, redFF just keeps feeling more and more scummy to me. I will put my vote on him for now.
##Vote: redFF
PS: I know you think I'm not contributing too. I'm explicitly acknowledging this so that you don't think that I'm disregarding it. LOL. im sorry but that is the worst post in the game so far. this guy and varp are the lynches. Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 00:12 redFF wrote:
ace please start posting properly. sinani is looking scummy as hell atm i agree, nice chainsaw of his buddy varpulis :D Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 06:56 redFF wrote:
kk since i have a feeling i will die tonight here is scumreads, in order from scummiest to least scummy(but still scummy)
varpulis, sinani, sandroba, originalname, ace(though his posting is getting better), bumatlarge.
Don't resurrect varpulis or sinani plz coroner varp. So why did they call each other Scum, push cases against one another, Sinani voted for redFF, and redFF called Sinani one of his top Scum reads. 2 players that knew from the get-go that they were both Innocent and they did this. There's your behavior analysis sandroba. Now bow down to the throne. Fucking rape.
Scenario: Sinani knows he has an apprentice, but doesn't know who it is. redFF knows he is an apprentice, but doesn't know who the original is. Once the Day 1 lynches go out, redFF finds out that his master has died. He checks varp (maybe by sheer luck, or he's told that sinani was his master via PM) and finds he wasn't the coroner. By keeping up with the thread, sinani now knows that redFF was his apprentice.
This would explain why redFF would push for the lynch on sinani, and then after redFF claimed apprentice, the stories line up.
There's your scenario analysis Ace. Now bow down to the scrub, asshole. (Cuz, hey, if Ace is above the courtesy rules, then who's to say that everyone else isn't?)
Fucking rape.
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On September 06 2011 12:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 11:51 Ace wrote:On September 06 2011 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 06 2011 11:31 Ace wrote:On September 06 2011 11:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 06 2011 11:22 Ace wrote:
Look at the role description for Coroner in the OP. Just read it. Tell me what it means. Coroner
Can look at a corpse and determine alignment and role. May be used any time, and will instantly return the information (as soon as I get the pm). It does not say "one per day". what does "look at a corpse" mean? One. A Corpse. Not "a corpse, but 2 if my balls are tingly". Detective: You can investigate a player once per day and get their alignment. Are you honestly confused and think that this means the detective can possibly investigate TWO players? If I give you a hamburger, how many are you holding in your hand? The detective role says ONCE PER DAY The coroner role DOES NOT. Jesus
I am a Coroner.
redFF was my Apprentice.
When I was lynched Day 1, I had not used either of my checks (note: the role pm did not say there was a limit to checks per day)
So redFF got them both when I died. He only used one, on Varpulis, but he said that he used one on me, too. But the thing is he knew that I was Coroner since he was my apprentice and decided to check someone else.
So today, when I was revived, I was notified that I only had one check left. So I checked OriginalName, who was/is an inhibitor, to check how accurate the speculative scumteam of ON, bum, and Ace was. Obviously, from my information, it was pretty accurate.
Which would mean redFF lied and something isn't adding up here. Sinani started with 2 checks. He could use both in one day. He dies without using any checks. redFF used one on Varp, and then lied and said he used one on Sinani because he knew Sinani was the Coroner anyway. He said he lost both of his checks at this point. Sinani is revived, and uses his check on ON and finds him to be Scum. Ok lets assume all this is true. There is a major snag. Earlier I pointed out that a backup role can not know the name of the player who has the original role. That is just too broken for the Town to have. Even so, lets assume this shit actually went down. Again - pay attention. Sinani said that redFF knew he was the Coroner but lied about using the check. Why oh why does Sinani have information about redFF's role? WHY? Think about it. The Coroner knows his back up. Sinani knows redFF is his back up. The back up knows the Coroner. redFF knows Sinani is the coroner. Hence, they both know that the other is Town aligned!. Perfect. So the Coroner has 2 checks per day. Ace misread the OP. Sinani and redFF both knew about each other's roles at the start of the game and both knew the other was Inncocent. On September 01 2011 23:08 redFF wrote:On September 01 2011 12:31 sinani206 wrote:
/confirm
Meta and policies aren't a good enough case for a lynch right now.
The subject of Varpulis was a nice way to start discussion, but there's no need to tunnel.
All of redFF's posts, however are very short and tangential, except for his analysis of Varpulis that was based entirely on meta. FoS redFF. this is not a good reason to fos and actually makes little to no sense. current scumteam imo=varpulis, sinani, ace if i had to name it right now. i have ON as town, going out see ya guys later. On September 02 2011 14:48 redFF wrote:On September 02 2011 14:37 sinani206 wrote:On September 02 2011 10:27 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 02 2011 10:12 sinani206 wrote:On September 02 2011 10:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 02 2011 09:20 Kenpachi wrote:
bro, I dont recall playing with you 3 so i asked for a general gist of your gameplay from previous games I misunderstood what you were asking, my mistake. But how about you actually do something productive for the town? I might be more inclined to believe you if you were actually trying to help. Every post you've made has been largely unhelpful. That's Kenpachi for you. Also, who would've guessed: sandroba has a plan. And I see no gaping issues with this plan, except for the fact that we can't decide who the three candidates should be.If we can actually find three people who are scummy, then we will be able to use the plan to our advantage. But is it really worth our time to agree on everyone's top three? I like how sinani has completely disregarded the fact that I think he could be scum. Also, he ignored the fact that we already figured picking 3 candidates wouldn't work. He has contributed very little. Currently he's feeling the scummiest to me. #vote sinani206 I'm sorry, I though it would be obvious that I knew that you thought I could be scum. I have acknowledged this in previous posts.
Anyway, redFF just keeps feeling more and more scummy to me. I will put my vote on him for now.
##Vote: redFF
PS: I know you think I'm not contributing too. I'm explicitly acknowledging this so that you don't think that I'm disregarding it. LOL. im sorry but that is the worst post in the game so far. this guy and varp are the lynches. On September 03 2011 00:12 redFF wrote:
ace please start posting properly. sinani is looking scummy as hell atm i agree, nice chainsaw of his buddy varpulis :D On September 03 2011 06:56 redFF wrote:
kk since i have a feeling i will die tonight here is scumreads, in order from scummiest to least scummy(but still scummy)
varpulis, sinani, sandroba, originalname, ace(though his posting is getting better), bumatlarge.
Don't resurrect varpulis or sinani plz coroner varp. So why did they call each other Scum, push cases against one another, Sinani voted for redFF, and redFF called Sinani one of his top Scum reads. 2 players that knew from the get-go that they were both Innocent and they did this. There's your behavior analysis sandroba. Now bow down to the throne. Fucking rape. Scenario: Sinani knows he has an apprentice, but doesn't know who it is. redFF knows he is an apprentice, but doesn't know who the original is. Once the Day 1 lynches go out, redFF finds out that his master has died. He checks varp (maybe by sheer luck, or he's told that sinani was his master via PM) and finds he wasn't the coroner. By keeping up with the thread, sinani now knows that redFF was his apprentice. This would explain why redFF would push for the lynch on sinani, and then after redFF claimed apprentice, the stories line up. There's your scenario analysis Ace. Now bow down to the scrub, asshole. (Cuz, hey, if Ace is above the courtesy rules, then who's to say that everyone else isn't?) Fucking rape.
LOL I love this game
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On September 06 2011 12:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 11:51 Ace wrote:On September 06 2011 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 06 2011 11:31 Ace wrote:On September 06 2011 11:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 06 2011 11:22 Ace wrote:
Look at the role description for Coroner in the OP. Just read it. Tell me what it means. Coroner
Can look at a corpse and determine alignment and role. May be used any time, and will instantly return the information (as soon as I get the pm). It does not say "one per day". what does "look at a corpse" mean? One. A Corpse. Not "a corpse, but 2 if my balls are tingly". Detective: You can investigate a player once per day and get their alignment. Are you honestly confused and think that this means the detective can possibly investigate TWO players? If I give you a hamburger, how many are you holding in your hand? The detective role says ONCE PER DAY The coroner role DOES NOT. Jesus
I am a Coroner.
redFF was my Apprentice.
When I was lynched Day 1, I had not used either of my checks (note: the role pm did not say there was a limit to checks per day)
So redFF got them both when I died. He only used one, on Varpulis, but he said that he used one on me, too. But the thing is he knew that I was Coroner since he was my apprentice and decided to check someone else.
So today, when I was revived, I was notified that I only had one check left. So I checked OriginalName, who was/is an inhibitor, to check how accurate the speculative scumteam of ON, bum, and Ace was. Obviously, from my information, it was pretty accurate.
Which would mean redFF lied and something isn't adding up here. Sinani started with 2 checks. He could use both in one day. He dies without using any checks. redFF used one on Varp, and then lied and said he used one on Sinani because he knew Sinani was the Coroner anyway. He said he lost both of his checks at this point. Sinani is revived, and uses his check on ON and finds him to be Scum. Ok lets assume all this is true. There is a major snag. Earlier I pointed out that a backup role can not know the name of the player who has the original role. That is just too broken for the Town to have. Even so, lets assume this shit actually went down. Again - pay attention. Sinani said that redFF knew he was the Coroner but lied about using the check. Why oh why does Sinani have information about redFF's role? WHY? Think about it. The Coroner knows his back up. Sinani knows redFF is his back up. The back up knows the Coroner. redFF knows Sinani is the coroner. Hence, they both know that the other is Town aligned!. Perfect. So the Coroner has 2 checks per day. Ace misread the OP. Sinani and redFF both knew about each other's roles at the start of the game and both knew the other was Inncocent. On September 01 2011 23:08 redFF wrote:On September 01 2011 12:31 sinani206 wrote:
/confirm
Meta and policies aren't a good enough case for a lynch right now.
The subject of Varpulis was a nice way to start discussion, but there's no need to tunnel.
All of redFF's posts, however are very short and tangential, except for his analysis of Varpulis that was based entirely on meta. FoS redFF. this is not a good reason to fos and actually makes little to no sense. current scumteam imo=varpulis, sinani, ace if i had to name it right now. i have ON as town, going out see ya guys later. On September 02 2011 14:48 redFF wrote:On September 02 2011 14:37 sinani206 wrote:On September 02 2011 10:27 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 02 2011 10:12 sinani206 wrote:On September 02 2011 10:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 02 2011 09:20 Kenpachi wrote:
bro, I dont recall playing with you 3 so i asked for a general gist of your gameplay from previous games I misunderstood what you were asking, my mistake. But how about you actually do something productive for the town? I might be more inclined to believe you if you were actually trying to help. Every post you've made has been largely unhelpful. That's Kenpachi for you. Also, who would've guessed: sandroba has a plan. And I see no gaping issues with this plan, except for the fact that we can't decide who the three candidates should be.If we can actually find three people who are scummy, then we will be able to use the plan to our advantage. But is it really worth our time to agree on everyone's top three? I like how sinani has completely disregarded the fact that I think he could be scum. Also, he ignored the fact that we already figured picking 3 candidates wouldn't work. He has contributed very little. Currently he's feeling the scummiest to me. #vote sinani206 I'm sorry, I though it would be obvious that I knew that you thought I could be scum. I have acknowledged this in previous posts.
Anyway, redFF just keeps feeling more and more scummy to me. I will put my vote on him for now.
##Vote: redFF
PS: I know you think I'm not contributing too. I'm explicitly acknowledging this so that you don't think that I'm disregarding it. LOL. im sorry but that is the worst post in the game so far. this guy and varp are the lynches. On September 03 2011 00:12 redFF wrote:
ace please start posting properly. sinani is looking scummy as hell atm i agree, nice chainsaw of his buddy varpulis :D On September 03 2011 06:56 redFF wrote:
kk since i have a feeling i will die tonight here is scumreads, in order from scummiest to least scummy(but still scummy)
varpulis, sinani, sandroba, originalname, ace(though his posting is getting better), bumatlarge.
Don't resurrect varpulis or sinani plz coroner varp. So why did they call each other Scum, push cases against one another, Sinani voted for redFF, and redFF called Sinani one of his top Scum reads. 2 players that knew from the get-go that they were both Innocent and they did this. There's your behavior analysis sandroba. Now bow down to the throne. Fucking rape. Scenario: Sinani knows he has an apprentice, but doesn't know who it is. redFF knows he is an apprentice, but doesn't know who the original is. Once the Day 1 lynches go out, redFF finds out that his master has died. He checks varp (maybe by sheer luck, or he's told that sinani was his master via PM) and finds he wasn't the coroner. By keeping up with the thread, sinani now knows that redFF was his apprentice. This would explain why redFF would push for the lynch on sinani, and then after redFF claimed apprentice, the stories line up. There's your scenario analysis Ace. Now bow down to the scrub, asshole. (Cuz, hey, if Ace is above the courtesy rules, then who's to say that everyone else isn't?) Fucking rape.
On September 06 2011 12:07 sinani206 wrote:OK, Ace, you want the truth? Alright, here it is. My role PM said exactly what it says in the OP. It did not tell me who my apprentice is, or even that I had one. When I died, redFF comes and claims backup. I chose to believe him based on these facts. - He says that I was innocent and that I should be revived
- I had a check left when I was revived, so he could only have used one.
redFF probably was told that he was the apprentice when I died, and obviously given my name.So that's why we weren't treating each other like confirmed townies the first day. Happy?
Sinani just said he didn't even know he had an apprentice jcarl. Flush that crap, thanks.
@Sinani: redFF was probably told that but he never said so. If he checks Varpulis and deduces you are the Coroner then why wouldn't he tell the Town Varpulis's role?. Varp can't be revived so holding that information in is now useless. His claim reeks.
The second bolded - how would you know redFF was given your name? You just said redFF deduced you are the Coroner so why would he be given your name? You said it yourself - your role PM says exactly what it says in the OP. No where in it does it say anything about giving you extra information.
@wherebugsgo: No, we are lynching me today because I really think this is the only shot at winning. I just dont trust most of you.
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Vote for yourself, then. You're going in circles when your vote is on sandroba. You keep talking about sinani and redff when your vote is on someone else.
If you think we can only win by you getting lynched, vote yourself. Help us lynch you.
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also jcarl here's more - get ready to wash your face.
Sinani just stated his role PM is exactly like it says in the OP. Why is redFF getting extra information via PM from the moderator? So the Apprentice finds out who the master is and can get him revived? Not buying it.
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On September 06 2011 12:26 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 12:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 06 2011 11:51 Ace wrote:On September 06 2011 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 06 2011 11:31 Ace wrote:On September 06 2011 11:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 06 2011 11:22 Ace wrote:
Look at the role description for Coroner in the OP. Just read it. Tell me what it means. Coroner
Can look at a corpse and determine alignment and role. May be used any time, and will instantly return the information (as soon as I get the pm). It does not say "one per day". what does "look at a corpse" mean? One. A Corpse. Not "a corpse, but 2 if my balls are tingly". Detective: You can investigate a player once per day and get their alignment. Are you honestly confused and think that this means the detective can possibly investigate TWO players? If I give you a hamburger, how many are you holding in your hand? The detective role says ONCE PER DAY The coroner role DOES NOT. Jesus
I am a Coroner.
redFF was my Apprentice.
When I was lynched Day 1, I had not used either of my checks (note: the role pm did not say there was a limit to checks per day)
So redFF got them both when I died. He only used one, on Varpulis, but he said that he used one on me, too. But the thing is he knew that I was Coroner since he was my apprentice and decided to check someone else.
So today, when I was revived, I was notified that I only had one check left. So I checked OriginalName, who was/is an inhibitor, to check how accurate the speculative scumteam of ON, bum, and Ace was. Obviously, from my information, it was pretty accurate.
Which would mean redFF lied and something isn't adding up here. Sinani started with 2 checks. He could use both in one day. He dies without using any checks. redFF used one on Varp, and then lied and said he used one on Sinani because he knew Sinani was the Coroner anyway. He said he lost both of his checks at this point. Sinani is revived, and uses his check on ON and finds him to be Scum. Ok lets assume all this is true. There is a major snag. Earlier I pointed out that a backup role can not know the name of the player who has the original role. That is just too broken for the Town to have. Even so, lets assume this shit actually went down. Again - pay attention. Sinani said that redFF knew he was the Coroner but lied about using the check. Why oh why does Sinani have information about redFF's role? WHY? Think about it. The Coroner knows his back up. Sinani knows redFF is his back up. The back up knows the Coroner. redFF knows Sinani is the coroner. Hence, they both know that the other is Town aligned!. Perfect. So the Coroner has 2 checks per day. Ace misread the OP. Sinani and redFF both knew about each other's roles at the start of the game and both knew the other was Inncocent. On September 01 2011 23:08 redFF wrote:On September 01 2011 12:31 sinani206 wrote:
/confirm
Meta and policies aren't a good enough case for a lynch right now.
The subject of Varpulis was a nice way to start discussion, but there's no need to tunnel.
All of redFF's posts, however are very short and tangential, except for his analysis of Varpulis that was based entirely on meta. FoS redFF. this is not a good reason to fos and actually makes little to no sense. current scumteam imo=varpulis, sinani, ace if i had to name it right now. i have ON as town, going out see ya guys later. On September 02 2011 14:48 redFF wrote:On September 02 2011 14:37 sinani206 wrote:On September 02 2011 10:27 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 02 2011 10:12 sinani206 wrote:On September 02 2011 10:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 02 2011 09:20 Kenpachi wrote:
bro, I dont recall playing with you 3 so i asked for a general gist of your gameplay from previous games I misunderstood what you were asking, my mistake. But how about you actually do something productive for the town? I might be more inclined to believe you if you were actually trying to help. Every post you've made has been largely unhelpful. That's Kenpachi for you. Also, who would've guessed: sandroba has a plan. And I see no gaping issues with this plan, except for the fact that we can't decide who the three candidates should be.If we can actually find three people who are scummy, then we will be able to use the plan to our advantage. But is it really worth our time to agree on everyone's top three? I like how sinani has completely disregarded the fact that I think he could be scum. Also, he ignored the fact that we already figured picking 3 candidates wouldn't work. He has contributed very little. Currently he's feeling the scummiest to me. #vote sinani206 I'm sorry, I though it would be obvious that I knew that you thought I could be scum. I have acknowledged this in previous posts.
Anyway, redFF just keeps feeling more and more scummy to me. I will put my vote on him for now.
##Vote: redFF
PS: I know you think I'm not contributing too. I'm explicitly acknowledging this so that you don't think that I'm disregarding it. LOL. im sorry but that is the worst post in the game so far. this guy and varp are the lynches. On September 03 2011 00:12 redFF wrote:
ace please start posting properly. sinani is looking scummy as hell atm i agree, nice chainsaw of his buddy varpulis :D On September 03 2011 06:56 redFF wrote:
kk since i have a feeling i will die tonight here is scumreads, in order from scummiest to least scummy(but still scummy)
varpulis, sinani, sandroba, originalname, ace(though his posting is getting better), bumatlarge.
Don't resurrect varpulis or sinani plz coroner varp. So why did they call each other Scum, push cases against one another, Sinani voted for redFF, and redFF called Sinani one of his top Scum reads. 2 players that knew from the get-go that they were both Innocent and they did this. There's your behavior analysis sandroba. Now bow down to the throne. Fucking rape. Scenario: Sinani knows he has an apprentice, but doesn't know who it is. redFF knows he is an apprentice, but doesn't know who the original is. Once the Day 1 lynches go out, redFF finds out that his master has died. He checks varp (maybe by sheer luck, or he's told that sinani was his master via PM) and finds he wasn't the coroner. By keeping up with the thread, sinani now knows that redFF was his apprentice. This would explain why redFF would push for the lynch on sinani, and then after redFF claimed apprentice, the stories line up. There's your scenario analysis Ace. Now bow down to the scrub, asshole. (Cuz, hey, if Ace is above the courtesy rules, then who's to say that everyone else isn't?) Fucking rape. Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 12:07 sinani206 wrote:OK, Ace, you want the truth? Alright, here it is. My role PM said exactly what it says in the OP. It did not tell me who my apprentice is, or even that I had one. When I died, redFF comes and claims backup. I chose to believe him based on these facts. - He says that I was innocent and that I should be revived
- I had a check left when I was revived, so he could only have used one.
redFF probably was told that he was the apprentice when I died, and obviously given my name.So that's why we weren't treating each other like confirmed townies the first day. Happy? Sinani just said he didn't even know he had an apprentice jcarl. Flush that crap, thanks. @Sinani: redFF was probably told that but he never said so. If he checks Varpulis and deduces you are the Coroner then why wouldn't he tell the Town Varpulis's role?. Varp can't be revived so holding that information in is now useless. His claim reeks. The second bolded - how would you know redFF was given your name? You just said redFF deduced you are the Coroner so why would he be given your name? You said it yourself - your role PM says exactly what it says in the OP. No where in it does it say anything about giving you extra information. @wherebugsgo: No, we are lynching me today because I really think this is the only shot at winning. I just dont trust most of you.
So you know what that shows? Only the first sentence in my scenario was false. I was typing that as sinani answered I guess. My scenario would still hold up. They still wouldn't have known the others' identity day 1. Flush that crap, thanks.
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On September 06 2011 12:28 wherebugsgo wrote:
Vote for yourself, then. You're going in circles when your vote is on sandroba. You keep talking about sinani and redff when your vote is on someone else.
If you think we can only win by you getting lynched, vote yourself. Help us lynch you.
good idea, I thought I couldn't vote for myself but my eyes popped out when I re-read the PM. Best suggestion you've made yet.
## Vote Ace
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