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wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

September 06 2011 03:32 GMT

#861

Hey Jackal what do you think of Ace?

Sandroba you too, I'm curious.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

September 06 2011 03:32 GMT

#862

On September 06 2011 12:29 jcarlsoniv wrote:

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On September 06 2011 12:26 Ace wrote:

On September 06 2011 12:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:

On September 06 2011 11:51 Ace wrote:

On September 06 2011 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote:

On September 06 2011 11:31 Ace wrote:

On September 06 2011 11:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:

On September 06 2011 11:22 Ace wrote:
Look at the role description for Coroner in the OP. Just read it. Tell me what it means.

Coroner
Can look at a corpse and determine alignment and role. May be used any time, and will instantly return the information (as soon as I get the pm).

It does not say "one per day".

what does "look at a corpse" mean? One. A Corpse. Not "a corpse, but 2 if my balls are tingly".

Detective:

You can investigate a player once per day and get their alignment.

Are you honestly confused and think that this means the detective can possibly investigate TWO players?

If I give you a hamburger, how many are you holding in your hand?

The detective role says ONCE PER DAY

The coroner role DOES NOT.

Jesus

I am a Coroner.

redFF was my Apprentice.

When I was lynched Day 1, I had not used either of my checks (note: the role pm did not say there was a limit to checks per day)

So redFF got them both when I died. He only used one, on Varpulis, but he said that he used one on me, too. But the thing is he knew that I was Coroner since he was my apprentice and decided to check someone else.

So today, when I was revived, I was notified that I only had one check left. So I checked OriginalName, who was/is an inhibitor, to check how accurate the speculative scumteam of ON, bum, and Ace was. Obviously, from my information, it was pretty accurate.

Which would mean redFF lied and something isn't adding up here.

Sinani started with 2 checks. He could use both in one day.

He dies without using any checks.

redFF used one on Varp, and then lied and said he used one on Sinani because he knew Sinani was the Coroner anyway. He said he lost both of his checks at this point.

Sinani is revived, and uses his check on ON and finds him to be Scum. Ok lets assume all this is true. There is a major snag.

Earlier I pointed out that a backup role can not know the name of the player who has the original role. That is just too broken for the Town to have. Even so, lets assume this shit actually went down. Again - pay attention. Sinani said that redFF knew he was the Coroner but lied about using the check. Why oh why does Sinani have information about redFF's role? WHY? Think about it.

The Coroner knows his back up. Sinani knows redFF is his back up.
The back up knows the Coroner. redFF knows Sinani is the coroner.

Hence, they both know that the other is Town aligned!. Perfect. So the Coroner has 2 checks per day. Ace misread the OP. Sinani and redFF both knew about each other's roles at the start of the game and both knew the other was Inncocent.

On September 01 2011 23:08 redFF wrote:

On September 01 2011 12:31 sinani206 wrote:
/confirm

Meta and policies aren't a good enough case for a lynch right now.
The subject of Varpulis was a nice way to start discussion, but there's no need to tunnel.

All of redFF's posts, however are very short and tangential, except for his analysis of Varpulis that was based entirely on meta. FoS redFF.

this is not a good reason to fos and actually makes little to no sense.

current scumteam imo=varpulis, sinani, ace if i had to name it right now. i have ON as town, going out see ya guys later.

On September 02 2011 14:48 redFF wrote:

On September 02 2011 14:37 sinani206 wrote:

On September 02 2011 10:27 jcarlsoniv wrote:

On September 02 2011 10:12 sinani206 wrote:

On September 02 2011 10:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:

On September 02 2011 09:20 Kenpachi wrote:
bro, I dont recall playing with you 3 so i asked for a general gist of your gameplay from previous games

I misunderstood what you were asking, my mistake.

But how about you actually do something productive for the town? I might be more inclined to believe you if you were actually trying to help. Every post you've made has been largely unhelpful.

That's Kenpachi for you.

Also, who would've guessed: sandroba has a plan.
And I see no gaping issues with this plan,
except for the fact that we can't decide who the three candidates should be.

If we can actually find three people who are scummy, then we will be able to use the plan to our advantage. But is it really worth our time to agree on everyone's top three?

I like how sinani has completely disregarded the fact that I think he could be scum. Also, he ignored the fact that we already figured picking 3 candidates wouldn't work. He has contributed very little. Currently he's feeling the scummiest to me.

#vote sinani206

I'm sorry, I though it would be obvious that I knew that you thought I could be scum. I have acknowledged this in previous posts.

Anyway, redFF just keeps feeling more and more scummy to me. I will put my vote on him for now.

##Vote: redFF

PS: I know you think I'm not contributing too. I'm explicitly acknowledging this so that you don't think that I'm disregarding it.

LOL. im sorry but that is the worst post in the game so far. this guy and varp are the lynches.

On September 03 2011 00:12 redFF wrote:
ace please start posting properly. sinani is looking scummy as hell atm i agree, nice chainsaw of his buddy varpulis :D

On September 03 2011 06:56 redFF wrote:
kk since i have a feeling i will die tonight here is scumreads, in order from scummiest to least scummy(but still scummy)

varpulis, sinani, sandroba, originalname, ace(though his posting is getting better), bumatlarge.

Don't resurrect varpulis or sinani plz coroner varp.

So why did they call each other Scum, push cases against one another, Sinani voted for redFF, and redFF called Sinani one of his top Scum reads.

2 players that knew from the get-go that they were both Innocent and they did this.

There's your behavior analysis sandroba. Now bow down to the throne.

Fucking rape.

Scenario: Sinani knows he has an apprentice, but doesn't know who it is. redFF knows he is an apprentice, but doesn't know who the original is. Once the Day 1 lynches go out, redFF finds out that his master has died. He checks varp (maybe by sheer luck, or he's told that sinani was his master via PM) and finds he wasn't the coroner. By keeping up with the thread, sinani now knows that redFF was his apprentice.

This would explain why redFF would push for the lynch on sinani, and then after redFF claimed apprentice, the stories line up.

There's your scenario analysis Ace. Now bow down to the scrub, asshole. (Cuz, hey, if Ace is above the courtesy rules, then who's to say that everyone else isn't?)

Fucking rape.

On September 06 2011 12:07 sinani206 wrote:
OK, Ace, you want the truth?

Alright, here it is.

My role PM said exactly what it says in the OP. It did not tell me who my apprentice is, or even that I had one.

When I died, redFF comes and claims backup. I chose to believe him based on these facts.

He says that I was innocent and that I should be revived
I had a check left when I was revived, so he could only have used one.

redFF probably was told that he was the apprentice when I died, and obviously given my name.

So that's why we weren't treating each other like confirmed townies the first day.

Happy?

Sinani just said he didn't even know he had an apprentice jcarl. Flush that crap, thanks.

@Sinani: redFF was probably told that but he never said so. If he checks Varpulis and deduces you are the Coroner then why wouldn't he tell the Town Varpulis's role?. Varp can't be revived so holding that information in is now useless. His claim reeks.

The second bolded - how would you know redFF was given your name? You just said redFF deduced you are the Coroner so why would he be given your name? You said it yourself - your role PM says exactly what it says in the OP. No where in it does it say anything about giving you extra information.

@wherebugsgo: No, we are lynching me today because I really think this is the only shot at winning. I just dont trust most of you.

So you know what that shows? Only the first sentence in my scenario was false. I was typing that as sinani answered I guess. My scenario would still hold up. They still wouldn't have known the others' identity day 1. Flush that crap, thanks.

No genius. It means redFF also never knew he had a master. Sinani just said his role functions exactly like the OP. Where is redFF getting extra PMs from? You dont think it's kind of ridiculous that redFF gets his master's identity, a check on a corpse all with the possibility of Sinani being revived?

Ace

United States16096 Posts

September 06 2011 03:38 GMT

#863

Screw it I'm done talking about this. Look, I'm gonna die. Then things are going to happen. Something has to give. If Sinani and redFF are "coroners" then SOMEONE is holding back. I refuse to believe that more than 2 people playing this game won't be able to end this for the Town. If they are indeed coroners someone out there has a really, really good Town role. No way the Town only gets 2 dead body checks with this much KP flying around. DO NOT SCREW THIS UP

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

September 06 2011 03:43 GMT

#864

On September 06 2011 12:38 Ace wrote:
Screw it I'm done talking about this. Look, I'm gonna die. Then things are going to happen. Something has to give. If Sinani and redFF are "coroners" then SOMEONE is holding back. I refuse to believe that more than 2 people playing this game won't be able to end this for the Town. If they are indeed coroners someone out there has a really, really good Town role. No way the Town only gets 2 dead body checks with this much KP flying around. DO NOT SCREW THIS UP

Is it gonna be like a haunt or something?

Do we have to button mash to defeat the demon?

Ace

United States16096 Posts

September 06 2011 03:48 GMT

#865

It's something better. I'm going to give the Scum one big final screw you. Sinani, I pray that redFF really is just that bad and that another Town player has ridiculously good powers. The fact that you are "out of checks" when you role PM doesn't state that is just another issue with your claims.

But it's OK. I've got something that will clear this ALL up.

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

September 06 2011 03:59 GMT

#866

On September 06 2011 12:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
Hey Jackal what do you think of Ace?

Sandroba you too, I'm curious.

I think he is scum and his mysterious power is bullshit. I think he know he can't avoid the lynch and is voting himself because it doesn't matter or to try to confuse us later with an absurd claim. There is absolutely no reason to not have claimed w/e it is right now if he was indeed dead set on dieing.

sinani206

United States1959 Posts

September 06 2011 04:01 GMT

#867

On September 06 2011 12:48 Ace wrote:
It's something better. I'm going to give the Scum one big final screw you. Sinani, I pray that redFF really is just that bad and that another Town player has ridiculously good powers. The fact that you are "out of checks" when you role PM doesn't state that is just another issue with your claims.

But it's OK. I've got something that will clear this ALL up.

I got a PM a few minutes after the revive PM that said I only had one check left.
Then I used it on ON.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

September 06 2011 04:03 GMT

#868

I wonder if Ace is gonna role claim like a few hours before the voting deadline lol

Ace

United States16096 Posts

September 06 2011 04:08 GMT

#869

On September 06 2011 12:59 sandroba wrote:

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Maybe this would be look better if you know, I was actually fighting the lynch. Cheers!

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

September 06 2011 04:13 GMT

#870

Ace why exactly haven't you straight up role claimed yet?

Not like you shat all over redFF and sinani for doing exactly what you're doing right now, you know...

Ace

United States16096 Posts

September 06 2011 04:16 GMT

#871

On September 06 2011 13:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
Ace why exactly haven't you straight up role claimed yet?

Not like you shat all over redFF and sinani for doing exactly what you're doing right now, you know...

you'll see why

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

September 06 2011 04:18 GMT

#872

I, for one, am excited.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

September 06 2011 06:12 GMT

#873

Just running through the scenario even in the case of redFF and Sinani being town, sandroba being Scum jumps out.

What was all of that about sandroba being role blocked confirming him as Town again?

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

September 06 2011 06:12 GMT

#874

where the hell is Kenpachi?

weigh in on this you mofo, stop lurking!!

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

September 06 2011 07:35 GMT

#875

On September 06 2011 15:12 Ace wrote:
Just running through the scenario even in the case of redFF and Sinani being town, sandroba being Scum jumps out.

What was all of that about sandroba being role blocked confirming him as Town again?

He claimed roleblock so he must be town. There is no way in this closed set-up that could possibly explain a lynch result contrary to what we counted on our fingers from votes.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

September 06 2011 07:47 GMT

#876

hahaha

Ace

United States16096 Posts

September 06 2011 07:59 GMT

#877

every time I read those pages with redFF's claims more questions keep popping up. He knew he was for certain he was in danger of dying. He also knew his "check" was wasted, after deducing that Sinani had to be the coroner by some real faulty logic or by chance. He "saved" a check for Sinani, said Varpulis was Town but still didn't reveal the role.

Then when I started asking about Varpulis's role, things got sketchy. Maybe Scum thought I was the Coroner and got shook.

Either way I'm holding some people to a higher standard here. I know there are a couple of jubjubs here so they'd believe anything. But some of you bought the role claim too quickly. There are a lot of holes in it and any self respecting decent Town player should have at least questioned how redFF's role got the PM from the mod confirming Sinani as Coroner, when Sinani said his role functions exactly as stated in the OP. Surely SOMEBODY had to note the big hole here?

If this is true maybe the game is just hella Town favored and Mafia have no shot at winning anyway. Oh well.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

September 06 2011 08:12 GMT

#878

heh, and it makes sense if redFF is Scum along with Sinani.

Scum wouldn't reanimate him anyway since he'd be a zombie and die 3 days later. So they get the High Priest to rez Sinani and go a long their merry way. Necro rez on someone else.

Varpulis and ON could both be Town. Mafia KP dropped because redFF got lynched. Sinani of course claims to have checked ON and flipped Inhibitor. Inhibitor, the role that allegedly blocked sandroba twice, even though I think most mods by now dont allow that to happen. So now the role blocking power is gone. sandroba's alibi lives, Sinani lives via ON being "confirmed" Scum.

Why didn't this scenario play out for any of you?

When I pull my little stunt, if ON is Scum the Necromancer has to revive him. There is no way they'd leave their inhibitor dead. If ON is not revived you should seriously question what happened with that Day 2 lynch.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

September 06 2011 08:18 GMT

#879

On September 06 2011 16:59 Ace wrote:
If this is true maybe the game is just hella Town favored and Mafia have no shot at winning anyway. Oh well.

Scumslip?

Ace

United States16096 Posts

September 06 2011 08:19 GMT

#880

no, stop reaching.

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