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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 06 2011 18:42 GMT
#901
On September 07 2011 03:35 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 02:46 sandroba wrote:
On September 05 2011 09:31 Jackal58 wrote:
Bum is scum. His late claim is BS.
I was minion hit. I received a PM from iGrok when I died advising me to continue watching the game because I would be resurrected at the beginning of the next day. The only thing that fits that is a minion hit.


From the OP: No players are told how a character is returned to life.

Since jackal was told he would get revived as soon as he died, the only possiblity is that he was a minion hit. Why would a host inform a player of that? The priest could very well be dead today and we could be facing only 2 ressurections and there is no reason jackal should have extra info about his ressurection as town. As scum of course he does since someone on his team shot him.

Then Jackal should "roleclaim" no?


He already did. Glad you've been reading the thread.

+ Show Spoiler +
lurker
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 06 2011 18:44 GMT
#902
On September 07 2011 03:17 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Hmm...so you're saying the minion shot hit jackal, who was the necro. This makes someone else the necro, and then when jackal is revived by that second necro, he gets his necro title back. Definitely plausible. Doesn't quite explain the 3 rezzes we had last night though, since jackal was one of them.

I actually don't know if 2 necros at the same time is possible, but I can't see where it states it's not.

How does it not explain the 3 ressurections?
1)minion hit (jackal - any player who has a role gets ressed a day after despite alignment)
2)new necro (from the OP, when a necro dies another one takes his place)
3)priest

@kenapachi Jackal has already roleclaimed. Why do you join games if you are not going to read the thread?
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
September 06 2011 18:46 GMT
#903
hurr i missed it.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 06 2011 18:49 GMT
#904
On September 07 2011 03:46 Kenpachi wrote:
hurr i missed it.


hurrrr that's cuz you're not doing jack shit


On September 07 2011 03:44 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 03:17 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Hmm...so you're saying the minion shot hit jackal, who was the necro. This makes someone else the necro, and then when jackal is revived by that second necro, he gets his necro title back. Definitely plausible. Doesn't quite explain the 3 rezzes we had last night though, since jackal was one of them.

I actually don't know if 2 necros at the same time is possible, but I can't see where it states it's not.

How does it not explain the 3 ressurections?
1)minion hit (jackal - any player who has a role gets ressed a day after despite alignment)
2)new necro (from the OP, when a necro dies another one takes his place)
3)priest

@kenapachi Jackal has already roleclaimed. Why do you join games if you are not going to read the thread?


Oh nevermind. Sorry, forgot minion hit was ressed a day later.

I'm not sure if this can be answered but:

(Assuming a necro exists) If the first necro dies, and then gets ressed by the new necro, does the second necro remain a necro along with the original necro?
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 06 2011 18:54 GMT
#905
My mind is full of fuck

Jackal is scum because he said he can block all effects but in reality because he can't actually block blocks he's lying and therefore scum?

I can see that if it's true. Also it bothers me that some of the townies are actually adding to the confusion, there's no way all of these shitty role claims have come from scum

Kenpachi if you're town please contribute so we're not forced to waste a lynch on you

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 06 2011 19:10 GMT
#906
I'm kinda torn between bum, Jackal, and Ace.

It's possible Ace is getting himself lynched so that spares the necros from being lynched. I mean, he could be the minion.

So in this case there COULD be 4 mafia...? Or if there's 3 mafia...

God damn kenpachi lurking is the only thing here that's fucking with me. Damn you lurkers

Jackal what do you think of sandroba? What do you think of his accusation about your roleclaim?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 06 2011 19:15 GMT
#907
I'm going to be leaving for practice very very shortly. I should be back about an hour before day ends. If you want my vote switched off of Ace, I need to be told and given good reason. I want to hear from Ace. If you really want to be lynched and use your "zomg game ending power", then my vote won't move.
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
September 06 2011 19:18 GMT
#908
bum is mafia, the other mafia is open for discussion. There is no 4th mafia ffs.
iGrok basically edited his post after he read what I said. Do you really think he forgot for a second he put Jackal's role in the game? Also why did the minion shoot jackal and why did he get informed that he would ressurect the following day when the op states no player get's informed??
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 06 2011 19:21 GMT
#909
##vote Jackal58

Lynch jackal and bum, leave ace till tomorrow, ace is more likely to be town IMO than jackal.

It doesn't make sense to me why iGrok would say that UNLESS Jackal is fake claiming.

I don't like liars.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 06 2011 19:23 GMT
#910
On September 07 2011 04:15 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I'm going to be leaving for practice very very shortly. I should be back about an hour before day ends. If you want my vote switched off of Ace, I need to be told and given good reason. I want to hear from Ace. If you really want to be lynched and use your "zomg game ending power", then my vote won't move.


keep the vote on me.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 06 2011 19:25 GMT
#911
On September 07 2011 04:18 sandroba wrote:
bum is mafia, the other mafia is open for discussion. There is no 4th mafia ffs.
iGrok basically edited his post after he read what I said. Do you really think he forgot for a second he put Jackal's role in the game? Also why did the minion shoot jackal and why did he get informed that he would ressurect the following day when the op states no player get's informed??


The OP didn't state all that stuff about redFF getting information about Sinani being his master. So jackal's claim is just as legit. Stop it.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 06 2011 19:29 GMT
#912
FFS we can't tell shit from Ace, he could be trolling us for all we know. A townie wouldn't want themselves lynched because to themselves they are confirmed and a mafia wouldn't want themselves lynched either for self preservation.

Ace is Ace, if we leave him alive till tomorrow I don't think it's going to be a huge deal.

What's more important right now is that Jackal roleclaimed "medic" (wtf which medic actually roleclaims?) and he's been confirmed by iGrok to be lying about how his role works.

If he really did have such an ability he certainly wouldn't claim it, because he's a better asset to town when mafia doesn't know what he can do. Otherwise they'd just shoot his ass right away. Jackal also really hasn't contributed anything, just look at his posts.

I say we lynch him and bum.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 06 2011 19:32 GMT
#913
Replace Jackal's name with redFF. Whats the difference?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 06 2011 19:36 GMT
#914
The difference is that redFF was never modconfirmed to be lying. Jackal's claim is that he can block roleblocks, but iGrok straight up said that's not possible.

Plus we lynched red anyway and the only way he's getting revived is if our HP is on crack and hasn't been paying attention to the thread (I sincerely hope that's not you kenpachi)
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 06 2011 19:45 GMT
#915
where did jackal claim he blocked a role block?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 06 2011 19:48 GMT
#916
He said he CAN block roleblocks, he didn't say he actually did. Filter him and find it, I'm on my phone otherwise I'd quote it myself
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 06 2011 19:54 GMT
#917
I did, he didn't say anything about role blocks as far as I saw. He said he can block someone from visiting the person he protects.

Seems standard and believable to me.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 06 2011 19:56 GMT
#918
Actually one thing to think about is this:

If bum is the minion and Jackal was dead yesterday, AND we killed the inhibitor ON yesterday, this means bum became necro (minion becomes necro? It makes sense from the name, like necromancer's minion or whatever). So bum and jackal are both necros right now and they can res two people at once.

Let's say they res ON and redFF. That creates both WIFOM and adds 2 KP to 1 KP = mafia is trying to end the game by tomorrow.

If this is true we have no choice but to lynch both Jackal and bum today.

Please all of you think about this carefully
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 06 2011 19:58 GMT
#919
Jesus Christ. My role says I block all evil doers from visiting a person. It also says I don't stop town aligned persons from visiting that person. If there is ambiguity in it it's not my fault. I didn't write the goddamned thing I just got it. And you'd have to ask iGrok why he told me to stick around because I'd be resurrected. Oversight on his part I'd imagine or he intentionally wanted me to know I was hit by the minion.
Life can only kill you once.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 06 2011 19:58 GMT
#920
On September 06 2011 23:41 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 22:34 sandroba wrote:
@jackal we know that priest is still alive (and not me because I've been roleblocked) based on the order the effects go through. Protect one wbg/chaos/kenpachi tonight, as one of those ought to be priest.

I'm a little puzzled about your claim and iGrok's flow chart of order of effects. How is a protection role even possible if other effects come after killing effects? huh?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11254029
It's not in other effects.
Order is Blocking Effects, Lynches, Killing effects, Other effects.
It's a blocking effect. I block all evil doers from visiting a person during that day cycle. If I have chosen a person to protect and scum try to hit them or role block them they are blocked. Scum cannot target a person I am protecting.
I have already picked the person I am protecting. I will in all likelihood continue to protect this person as long as I am still alive. No I'm not telling you who it is.


Found it

Hit OR role block he says. igrok's last post says that's not possible.

Ace are you being purposely thick?
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