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wherebugsgo
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although it is pretty funny watching you talk to yourself | ||
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Ace
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wherebugsgo
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He posted like 3 times during the last day cycle. | ||
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Ace
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wherebugsgo
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Kenpachi's lurking to hell, and he's a great lynch tomorrow, but honestly ON deserved what he got. | ||
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chaos13
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On September 06 2011 17:12 Ace wrote: heh, and it makes sense if redFF is Scum along with Sinani. Scum wouldn't reanimate him anyway since he'd be a zombie and die 3 days later. So they get the High Priest to rez Sinani and go a long their merry way. Necro rez on someone else. Varpulis and ON could both be Town. Mafia KP dropped because redFF got lynched. Sinani of course claims to have checked ON and flipped Inhibitor. Inhibitor, the role that allegedly blocked sandroba twice, even though I think most mods by now dont allow that to happen. So now the role blocking power is gone. sandroba's alibi lives, Sinani lives via ON being "confirmed" Scum. Why didn't this scenario play out for any of you? When I pull my little stunt, if ON is Scum the Necromancer has to revive him. There is no way they'd leave their inhibitor dead. If ON is not revived you should seriously question what happened with that Day 2 lynch. Ace this scenario played out in my head for some time. Look at how I posted that redFF was in no means confirmed town when he first posted his claim. I thought about it and came to the conclusion that if mafia was risking a coroner counter claim and their agenda was to get the priest to revive sinani, then they would claim plain coroner with one check on sinani. I also though about the number of scum that is plausible in this game and concluded it's very likely to be three, and based on kp from day1 that made sinani town (which I though he was day1 anyway). That being said that would be no reason for mafia to pull a claim like that considering everything above, so I ruled it out without questioning redFF much, because I thought he was hiding something from mafia. | ||
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sandroba
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I'm a little puzzled about your claim and iGrok's flow chart of order of effects. How is a protection role even possible if other effects come after killing effects? huh? | ||
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sandroba
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iGrok, can you clarify if it's possible for something to act before roleblocking effects? | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On September 06 2011 22:34 sandroba wrote: @jackal we know that priest is still alive (and not me because I've been roleblocked) based on the order the effects go through. Protect one wbg/chaos/kenpachi tonight, as one of those ought to be priest. I'm a little puzzled about your claim and iGrok's flow chart of order of effects. How is a protection role even possible if other effects come after killing effects? huh? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11254029 It's not in other effects. Order is Blocking Effects, Lynches, Killing effects, Other effects. It's a blocking effect. I block all evil doers from visiting a person during that day cycle. If I have chosen a person to protect and scum try to hit them or role block them they are blocked. Scum cannot target a person I am protecting. I have already picked the person I am protecting. I will in all likelihood continue to protect this person as long as I am still alive. No I'm not telling you who it is. | ||
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Jackal58
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On September 06 2011 23:41 Jackal58 wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11254029 It's not in other effects. Order is Blocking Effects, Lynches, Killing effects, Other effects. It's a blocking effect. I block all evil doers from visiting a person during that day cycle. If I have chosen a person to protect and scum try to hit them or role block them they are blocked. Scum cannot target a person I am protecting. I have already picked the person I am protecting. I will in all likelihood continue to protect this person as long as I am still alive. No I'm not telling you who it is. Yeah, it's best if you don't. Your explanation kinda makes sense. Just please consider one of those 3 because I'm almost positive the HP is in there. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On September 06 2011 23:43 Jackal58 wrote: As I also stated before I do not block town aligned actions. Yeah, but you realize your role makes little sense in this setup right? Just make sure you are aiming at the HP when you use if you are telling the truth. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On September 07 2011 00:06 sandroba wrote: Yeah, but you realize your role makes little sense in this setup right? Just make sure you are aiming at the HP when you use if you are telling the truth. What doesn't make sense? With the scum team being able to increase their KP through the use of zombies it makes perfect sense. Without lynching any scum by day 3 scum kp would have been at 3. And yes I believe we lynched scum. Their kp indicates that. What doesn't make sense? | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On September 06 2011 22:40 sandroba wrote: Also since you prevent actions, you should have to act even before roleblocker. iGrok, can you clarify if it's possible for something to act before roleblocking effects? Order is Blocking Effects, Lynches, Killing effects, Other effects. No effects on the same tier can affect each other. So, you cannot block a block. Killing a Vig does not prevent his kill. Etc. unless otherwise specified. | ||
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sandroba
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can we change to bum + jackal? maybe there is a chance that ace is not scum, but jackal's claim is mod confirmed impossible lol | ||
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sandroba
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A question that no one has asked yet is why mafia used their minion shot on jackal. One possible explanation is that bum was minion so they had to use it on day1, so they couldn't take the risk of bum getting lynched and wasting their shot. But then why shoot jackal when their kills were sknowman/drazerk/jackal? Seriously who is less likely to be blue amongst those 3? Certainly not jackal. The explanation that makes the most sense would shoot the necro thus making 2 necros by today when jackal revived, in adition to creating confusion. TL;DR jackal is likely scum instead of ace. | ||
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sandroba
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On September 05 2011 09:31 Jackal58 wrote: Bum is scum. His late claim is BS. I was minion hit. I received a PM from iGrok when I died advising me to continue watching the game because I would be resurrected at the beginning of the next day. The only thing that fits that is a minion hit. From the OP: No players are told how a character is returned to life. Since jackal was told he would get revived as soon as he died, the only possiblity is that he was a minion hit. Why would a host inform a player of that? The priest could very well be dead today and we could be facing only 2 ressurections and there is no reason jackal should have extra info about his ressurection as town. As scum of course he does since someone on his team shot him. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
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Kenpachi
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On September 07 2011 02:46 sandroba wrote: From the OP: No players are told how a character is returned to life. Since jackal was told he would get revived as soon as he died, the only possiblity is that he was a minion hit. Why would a host inform a player of that? The priest could very well be dead today and we could be facing only 2 ressurections and there is no reason jackal should have extra info about his ressurection as town. As scum of course he does since someone on his team shot him. Then Jackal should "roleclaim" no? | ||
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